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Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:13 am
by classicstyxfan
1999.....the last time the "big 3" from Classic Styx played together.

So let's say the nearly impossible were to happen, and DDY rejoined Styx.
IMO too much tme has passed for any chemistry to be rekindled.....the rest of the band ( Except Ricky ) has nearly 7 years of common experiences and bonding together sans Dennis.

They would always be talking about him behind his back, and he would be a complete outsider..........4 against 1, so to speak.

So, the best I think could ever be hoped for would be a 1 show reunion ala Pink Floyd at Live 8........

thoughts ? 7 Years is a long time.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:22 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
"Never Say Never"

:wink:

1999.....the last time the "big 3" from Classic Styx played together.


It's been that long???? So sad :cry:

So let's say the nearly impossible were to happen, and DDY rejoined Styx.
IMO too much tme has passed for any chemistry to be rekindled.....the rest of the band ( Except Ricky ) has nearly 7 years of common experiences and bonding together sans Dennis.


I don't think Dennis would "rejoin" Styx. They can "rejoin" him. He is the voice of STYX :)

I can see one reunion show which will happen. I can also see DeYoung & Shaw do one date for sure and now that I had an "awakening" today, I can see a few more dates with those crazy rock guys :)

They would always be talking about him behind his back, and he would be a complete outsider..........4 against 1, so to speak.


Sorry, it's one against one with this little rock soap opera tiff. By the way, I love soap opera's :wink:

So, the best I think could ever be hoped for would be a 1 show reunion ala Pink Floyd at Live 8........


It will happen. There are a lot of celebrities that grew up with Styx and would love to see this happen. Just remember to some, money talks :wink:

thoughts ? 7 Years is a long time.


Too tired right now for more "Deep Thoughts with Suite" :wink: Yes, 7 years is a long time.

Hey, since they waited my lucky 13 years to get together last time, I guess we might have to wait 6 more years. :shock:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:12 am
by DarwinNebraska
Suite... get back on your meds.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:06 pm
by bugsymalone
Suite says "Never Say Never." I just say NEVER!

No! Styx was over in 1999 as far as I am concerned and I hope it stays that way. It was wonderful while it lasted but that particular magic cannot be captured again.

Dennis and Current Styx have forged their own identities now. It needs to stay that way.

I do not see a reunion being anything other than strained, at best.

As Current Styx sings now -- (They) Don't Need No Doctor. And he does not need them.

Bugsy

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:33 pm
by froy
classicstyxfan wrote:1999.....the last time the "big 3" from Classic Styx played together.

So let's say the nearly impossible were to happen, and DDY rejoined Styx.
IMO too much tme has passed for any chemistry to be rekindled.....the rest of the band ( Except Ricky ) has nearly 7 years of common experiences and bonding together sans Dennis.

They would always be talking about him behind his back, and he would be a complete outsider..........4 against 1, so to speak.

So, the best I think could ever be hoped for would be a 1 show reunion ala Pink Floyd at Live 8........

thoughts ? 7 Years is a long time.


Sure Dennis does not need Styx anymore he is growing on his own
And the funny thing no new cd and the guy is busting it up live.
Selling more tix in Canada then Gowan that speaks volumes.
Styx is a novelty act singing covers who needs em
When Dennis puts out a new cd it will even boost him higher.
Styx can run around collecting checks I really careless about them
Its a shame was a huge Styx fan for 25 years until they blew it.

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:50 pm
by Monker
froy wrote:Sure Dennis does not need Styx anymore he is growing on his own


Ah, so that is why he performs Styx songs in concert. I see...he doesn't need Styx at all. That's why he attaches the Styx name when he promotes himself...he doesn't need Styx. His solo stuff carries all the weight. Sure it does.

Styx is a novelty act singing covers who needs em


And, Dennis is a novelty act pretending to be a broadway star. Don't forget to call your local PBS station in support of Hunchback!

When Dennis puts out a new cd it will even boost him higher.


Yeah, that Christmas song just thrust him up even higher. He can't do any wrong. It's like, number one on the charts and everything. Wow, I hear it all the time on the radio!

Styx can run around collecting checks I really careless about them


And, Dennis does EXACTLY the same thing and no more care about him then they do about Styx.

Its a shame was a huge Styx fan for 25 years until they blew it.


You know, a while back, I was reading old alt.music.journey msgs...In the beginning, you came VERY close to calling Dennis a LIAR when he started performing. Either he had light sensitivity, or he doesn't...that's what YOU said. So, it wasn't 'until they blew it'...it was until YOU decided they blew it.

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:15 pm
by AOR rules
froy wrote:Styx is a novelty act singing covers who needs em
I finally bought “Cyclorama” and in my opinion Styx is far from novelty act, this is great stuff. Only track I don´t like is “Kiss your ass goodbye” which sounds like Offspring or Bad Religion. I think Dennis is the one who is novelty act until he can put out anything comparable to “Cyclorama”.

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:19 pm
by froy
AOR rules wrote:
froy wrote:Styx is a novelty act singing covers who needs em
I finally bought “Cyclorama” and in my opinion Styx is far from novelty act, this is great stuff. Only track I don´t like is “Kiss your ass goodbye” which sounds like Offspring or Bad Religion. I think Dennis is the one who is novelty act until he can put out anything comparable to “Cyclorama”.


Dennis is playing symp shows and he's being asked back from city to city
Tim Orchard is handeling him on a nice pace
He's not trying to compete with his past he's just playing his music in a full sounding form.
As far a cyclo blab that band has broke up so its not even the band you see today ,

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:26 pm
by froy
Monker wrote:
froy wrote:Sure Dennis does not need Styx anymore he is growing on his own


Ah, so that is why he performs Styx songs in concert. I see...he doesn't need Styx at all. That's why he attaches the Styx name when he promotes himself...he doesn't need Styx. His solo stuff carries all the weight. Sure it does.


The point was ginga that Dennis does not need to share the stage with the Legend and the David Spade look alike,

Styx is a novelty act singing covers who needs em


And, Dennis is a novelty act pretending to be a broadway star. Don't forget to call your local PBS station in support of Hunchback!


Hunchback is a fantastic cd and the PBS move was a huge move on his part , Free TV exposure your obviously not smart enough to see that,

When Dennis puts out a new cd it will even boost him higher.


Yeah, that Christmas song just thrust him up even higher. He can't do any wrong. It's like, number one on the charts and everything. Wow, I hear it all the time on the radio!


Was not intended for that but Im glad you hear it all the time on the radio.,


Its a shame was a huge Styx fan for 25 years until they blew it.


You know, a while back, I was reading old alt.music.journey msgs...In the beginning, you came VERY close to calling Dennis a LIAR when he started performing.


Yea right .
Is this another take somthing out of context thing


Either he had light sensitivity, or he doesn't...that's what YOU said. So, it wasn't 'until they blew it'...it was until YOU decided they blew it.


When 600 people show up to a LA show you can say they blew it
Every show they play they give away thousands of free tickets just to make it look sold out .

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:47 pm
by AOR rules
froy wrote:As far a cyclo blab that band has broke up so its not even the band you see today ,
My point was that Styx has already written one good album without Dennis so there´s no reason it couldn´t happen again.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:56 pm
by SuiteMadameBlue
Darwin says:

Suite... get back on your meds.


Thank you for your concern, I appreciate you thinking about me Darwin :wink: It's too much Monster Energy!!!

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I'm just having fun Darwin. Seriously, anything can happen, I'm not ruling anything out. But from what I heard from very reliable sources, which you can't get more reliable than them (LOL), there's a 75% chance, that DeYoung & Shaw could be on the same stage performing together.

There's always offers to have these guys (Styx guys) reunite, they come in all the time. Just like Steve Perry, holy smokes, I'm sure that guy receives tons of offers too and I know a few of them are from musical peers to tour together.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:16 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Froy says:

When 600 people show up to a LA show you can say they blew it
Every show they play they give away thousands of free tickets just to make it look sold out .


And Cleveland and Montreal, just to name a few. Yes, they do give away tickets at these shows. HOWEVER, so do other artists, but those are less known artists. The Styx name has been around for years and years, decades and decades, but then again, I guess poor Krokus has been around too. :shock: I really thought that Styx would always have great ticket sales in the Chicago area, that really surprises me, seriously.

Froy says:

The point was ginga that Dennis does not need to share the stage with the Legend and the David Spade look alike,


I agree with Froy on this. Dennis is doing pretty darn good on his own. If you look at Pollstar (if you're a member) his tickets are selling better than Robert Plants tickets on average.

Froy says:
Quote:
Styx is a novelty act singing covers who needs em


Monker says:
And, Dennis is a novelty act pretending to be a broadway star. Don't forget to call your local PBS station in support of Hunchback!


Froy says:
Hunchback is a fantastic cd and the PBS move was a huge move on his part , Free TV exposure your obviously not smart enough to see that,


Wasn't Dennis on Broadway at all? So I don't think he was pretending. I agree with Froy (surprise!!), Hunchback, to me is a fantastic cd, love it!! Soundstage and PBS is a total HUGE move on Dennis' part! If I'm not mistaken, but right now in Canada his Soundstage DVD is almost at Platinum in sales, that's pretty good in my book :)

Oh and his double live cd passed the Big Bang cd in sales and should be passing the Cyclo cd soon in sales. Pretty good for a cd that hasn't been advertised heavy!!! :D

His appearance on Canada's Star Academie is unfricken believable!! The clip will be on his website soon.

Monker, I would like you to see this and I really want to know what you think of his voice and appearance, seriously!!!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:17 am
by yogi
Dennis has been doing VERY well lately. His PR people are also doing a tremendous job. He is HUGE in Canada. 8 sold out shows and counting. Bravo!!!

It looks to me like he is taking the EXACT same path another huge Canadian 80's star took. Some of you may not be familiar with the name Lawerence Gowan. But he was a huge solo act back in Canada in the mid to late 80's. Dennis Deyoung is following the same type of path he took.

Hats off to Dennis Deyoung. Canada's second coming of Lawerence Gowan.

May he someday reach Gowans lofty heights in Canada!!!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:28 am
by ek88
Dennis following in Gowan's footsteps? Now, there's a bit of irony! :D

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:38 pm
by froy
ek88 wrote:Dennis following in Gowan's footsteps? Now, there's a bit of irony! :D


Na thats not Irony thats Yogi he loves to ruin Dennis DeYoung threads,

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:39 pm
by froy
AOR rules wrote:
froy wrote:As far a cyclo blab that band has broke up so its not even the band you see today ,
My point was that Styx has already written one good album without Dennis so there´s no reason it couldn´t happen again.


I see did not catch that but then again I think rama is a budget effort
One With Nothing is the only good tune,

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:23 pm
by DarrenUK
froy wrote:
AOR rules wrote:
froy wrote:As far a cyclo blab that band has broke up so its not even the band you see today ,
My point was that Styx has already written one good album without Dennis so there´s no reason it couldn´t happen again.


I see did not catch that but then again I think rama is a budget effort
One With Nothing is the only good tune,


What you dont like Killing The Thing That You Love with all the references to your hero ?

In my opinion These Are The Times is the best cut on the CD.

On Dennis's next CD if there are 10 songs on it what percentage of them will be ballads about his wife his daughter his goldfish or his dog ?

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:11 am
by Abitaman
DarrenUK wrote:
froy wrote:
AOR rules wrote:
froy wrote:As far a cyclo blab that band has broke up so its not even the band you see today ,
My point was that Styx has already written one good album without Dennis so there´s no reason it couldn´t happen again.


I see did not catch that but then again I think rama is a budget effort
One With Nothing is the only good tune,


What you dont like Killing The Thing That You Love with all the references to your hero ?

In my opinion These Are The Times is the best cut on the CD.

On Dennis's next CD if there are 10 songs on it what percentage of them will be ballads about his wife his daughter his goldfish or his dog ?


These Are The Times is my favorite from the cd, followed by One With Everything-ERIC

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:00 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Darren says:

What you dont like Killing The Thing That You Love with all the references to your hero ?

In my opinion These Are The Times is the best cut on the CD.

On Dennis's next CD if there are 10 songs on it what percentage of them will be ballads about his wife his daughter his goldfish or his dog ?


Holy smokes Darren, I haven't seen you fired up in quite a while!! :shock:

Does it matter if Dennis has ballads on his next cd? Should the whole cd be hard rockin'? I personally like the variety of Dennis' music, as well as Tommy's as well as Pre-1999 Styx music. I wouldn't want all the songs to sound the same. Just my opinion.

By the way, I don't think Dennis has a goldfish (that was cute though) -LOL

Re: Going on 7 Years........

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:56 pm
by Monker
Hunchback is a fantastic cd and the PBS move was a huge move on his part , Free TV exposure your obviously not smart enough to see that,


Point is that while out propping himself up with Styx songs, he goes to PBS stations asking support for a PBS HUNCHBACK production. That's where his mind has been stuck for over a decade.

Was not intended for that but Im glad you hear it all the time on the radio.,


Nobody hears it on the radio...and if it wasn't intended for radio, why was Suite pointing out that it was being SENT TO RADIO?

Yea right .
Is this another take somthing out of context thing


This is EXACTLY what you said: Sep 16 1999

It's called the having to much money disorder.
Dennis sold his songs to VW and the Adam Sandler movie which made him more money than any summer tour . Also Dennis Manalow is stuck in the ballad mode and won't rock anymore, So every Styx show will feature his same tired old ballads like, Babe Show Me The Way ,The Best Of Times etc. Dennis will never revisit any of his past obscure songs like Pieces of 8 , Father, Why Me, Back To Chicago, and Even Desert Moon which was his solo hit that most Styx fans would love to hear. Now as far as any condition IM puzzled as to why he can do some shows and not others , If he's sensitive to light that he should be limited to no shows.


Yeah, love the 'Dennis Manalow" thing.

You are basicaly arguing that Dennis doesn't need to tour much cuz he can make money by selling songs...and if he has "light sensitivity", why can he do some shows and not others? If he's 'light sensitive' he shouldn't be able to do ANY.

When 600 people show up to a LA show you can say they blew it
Every show they play they give away thousands of free tickets just to make it look sold out .


Then shut the fuck up about Styx and talk about poodle head instead.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:58 pm
by Monker
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I really want to know what you think of his voice and appearance, seriously!!![/b]


I think he has a fine voice...and I think he looks like he's in his 70's. I've said that a few times already.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:08 pm
by SuiteMadameBlue
Monker, are you having a bad day/night? I am glad to hear that you think he has a fine voice. That made my day/night/morning :)

It's the holidays, relax :)

Monker says:

Point is that while out propping himself up with Styx songs, he goes to PBS stations asking support for a PBS HUNCHBACK production. That's where his mind has been stuck for over a decade.


How do you know that he goes to PBS stations asking support for a PBS Hunchback production?

I do know that PBS stations have asked him to come in. He's helped raise a lot of money for PBS. It's a good thing.

Nobody hears it on the radio...and if it wasn't intended for radio, why was Suite pointing out that it was being SENT TO RADIO?


His new Christmas single? Yes, promos were sent to radio stations. It's being played. I'll try to get a list of stations and cities that have it in their rotation :)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:36 pm
by sadie65
Monker makes the Hunchback point because at a few pledge drives Dennis mentioned that if enough people showed support for it, they might be able to work out a deal where Hunchback would be televised via PBS.

That being said, getting back to the original question at hand...I think sincerely having any sort of reunion would be a bad idea. Even if it is a one time show.

While I would like to see these men resolve their differences in private, I hold to the belief that their chemistry would be forced at this point if they shared a stage. They are all professionals to be sure, but they all have very different ideas of what this band is. I would be watching it and looking for the hypocrisy to show. I just think they are all much better off apart.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:50 pm
by swwskj
I think at this point in time, with as much that has come out and as much time that has passed, I find myself more and more in Sadie's camp. A forced reunion would only make them ALL look like sell-outs. Better for Dennis to do his solo thing and Styx Syx to be playing smaller venues than to play one 'we're only doing it for the bigger paycheck' reunion show.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:04 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Scott says:

I think at this point in time, with as much that has come out and as much time that has passed, I find myself more and more in Sadie's camp. A forced reunion would only make them ALL look like sell-outs. Better for Dennis to do his solo thing and Styx Syx to be playing smaller venues than to play one 'we're only doing it for the bigger paycheck' reunion show.


So, you wouldn't even just one show? Not even if it was for a very special event or a charity event? Just that one time playing together?

I personally prefer that Dennis is solo and Styx Syx (Love that), but I think I just want that one more last time.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:04 am
by Monker
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:How do you know that he goes to PBS stations asking support for a PBS Hunchback production?


Cuz I have it ON TAPE. He said that people calling in during his show is also showing support for the idea of PBS doing a Hunchback production!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:06 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Monker says:

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
How do you know that he goes to PBS stations asking support for a PBS Hunchback production?


Cuz I have it ON TAPE. He said that people calling in during his show is also showing support for the idea of PBS doing a Hunchback production!


I know, nevermind, sorry. Bugsy reminded me that I have all his PBS Pledge drives on tape & DVD. I just didn't have time to view them all.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:58 am
by bugsymalone
SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Monker says:

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
How do you know that he goes to PBS stations asking support for a PBS Hunchback production?


Cuz I have it ON TAPE. He said that people calling in during his show is also showing support for the idea of PBS doing a Hunchback production!


I know, nevermind, sorry. Bugsy reminded me that I have all his PBS Pledge drives on tape & DVD. I just didn't have time to view them all.


I have (and you have, Suite) a number of his pledge drives from all parts of the country. Waaaay too many to hear that Jim Lehrer-is-really Big Bird or Oscar or Miss Piggy "joke", yet again. :roll:

That said, I have heard him mention Hunchback mostly in passing and, apparently, do not have him mentioning at all that he was hoping for it to be presented on PBS at some point, though I know he is up for that happening someday. I know I would LOVE it!!!

So, he does not talk about that on every appearance he has made, that is for sure. In fact, he is very focused on the plege drive and spends a lot of time talking about PBS programming. He is a very good soldier in that respect.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:15 am
by LordofDaRing
We will all have to wait and see what Dennis's new CD sounds like. I too bought a copy of Cyclorama and unlike a lot of you, was not impressed. I gave it a shot. Glen Burtnik's solo CD was much better. As far as who is a novelty act, well lets put it this way, would anybody attend a STYX show if they just did new material or a Dennis show for that matter. Naturally Dennis is going to do Styx songs, the ones he wrote and sang on, they are his songs. Styx is still doing his songs too.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:05 pm
by Abitaman
LordofDaRing wrote:As far as who is a novelty act, well lets put it this way, would anybody attend a STYX show if they just did new material or a Dennis show for that matter. Naturally Dennis is going to do Styx songs, the ones he wrote and sang on, they are his songs. Styx is still doing his songs too.


Good point-ERIC