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Postby yogi » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:43 pm

The Mission's week 1 ranking is #45 overall( overall), & #9 on their Rock charts.

On the Rock charts, It lost out to Nicklebacks ' Feed the Machine' #2 debut, but beat Cheap Tricks' We're All Right!' debut #12.

Not bad at all for a band thats been around and charting for 50 years ( 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's 2010's.....)!!!! GREAT job Styx, GREAT album!!!!!!
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Archetype » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:02 am

Big Bang Theory was also #45. How many copies were sold?
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby masque » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:40 am

i think i read somewhere that big bang was somewhere between 35k-50k.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Toph » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:16 am

yogi wrote:The Mission's week 1 ranking is #45 overall( overall), & #9 on their Rock charts.

On the Rock charts, It lost out to Nicklebacks ' Feed the Machine' #2 debut, but beat Cheap Tricks' We're All Right!' debut #12.

Not bad at all for a band thats been around and charting for 50 years ( 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's 2010's.....)!!!! GREAT job Styx, GREAT album!!!!!!


That's actually disappointing. With all that marketing, the advanced copies, the huge promotional thrust, the CD/LP packages, I would have thought it would have been in top 30 at least. For comparison, Buckingham/McVie debuted at #17.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Fact Finder » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:25 am

masque wrote:i think i read somewhere that big bang was somewhere between 35k-50k.


If this is accurate so are you. :D



The Chicago based band, Styx dominated the charts during the mid seventies to late eighties. They had a series of muliplatinum albums and top ten hits. They continue to tour today, frequently with arch allies REO Speedwagon.

US Sales
Key
Album release year
Certification date
Album Title
RIAA Sales
Soundscan Sales

Studio Albums
1972 none Styx
1973 1975 Styx II 500,000
1973 none The Serpent is Rising
1974 none The Man of Miracles
1975 1977 Equinox 500,000
1976 1978 Crystal Ball 500,000
1977 1984 The Grand Illusion 3,000,000
1978 1984 Pieces of Eight 3,000,000
1979 1984 Cornerstone 2,000,000
1981 1984 Paradise Theatre 3,000,000
1983 1983 Kilroy Was Here 1,000,000
1990 1998 Edge of the Century 500,000
1999 none Brave New World 86,300 2005
2003 none Cyclorama 56,000 2005
2005 none Big Bang Theory 43,000 2005

Live Albums
1984 none Caught in the Act
1997 1998 Return to Paradise Theatre 500,000
2000 none Arch Allies: Live at Riverport
2001 none Styx World: Live 2001 22,400 2003
2002 none At the River’s Edge
2003 none 21st Century Live

Compilation Albums
1977 1984 Best of Styx 500,0001980 none Lady
1987 1994 Styx Classics Volume 15 500,000
1991 none Styx Radio-made Hits 1975-1991
1995 2005 Styx Greatest Hits 2,000,000 2,650,91202/2013
1996 none Styx Greatest Hits Part 2
1997 none The Best of Times: Best of Styx
1999 none Best of Styx 1973-1974
2000 none Extended Versions
2000 none Singles Collections
2001 none Yesterday and Today
2002 none 20th Century Masters 303,218 04/2012
2003 none Rockers
2004 none Come Sail Away: Styx Anthology
2005 none The Complete Wooden Nickel Recordings

Total RIAA Sales: 17.5 million

Canada Sales (CRIA)
1975 Equinox 100, 000
1976 Crystal Ball 50,000
1977 The Grand Illusion 100,000
1977 Best of Styx 100,000
1978 Pieces of Eight 100,000
1979 Cornerstone 100,000
1981 Paradise Theatre 100,000
1982 Kilroy Was Here 100,000
1995 Styx Greatest Hits 100,000
Total: 850,000
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:41 am

From StyxWorld.com

THANK YOU to all of our fans for making us:
- #6 Top Rock Albums
- #11 Physical Albums
- #11 Vinyl Albums
- #13 Current Albums
- #14 Billboard Top Albums
- #16 Retail
- #17 Mass Merch/Non-Traditional
- #29 Digital Albums
- #45 Billboard 200 (includes catalog and streaming).
Thank you for making this happen!
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Monker » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:06 pm

This is very old....It doesn't have the CYO concert, or the GI/Po8 concert.

Fact Finder wrote:
masque wrote:i think i read somewhere that big bang was somewhere between 35k-50k.


If this is accurate so are you. :D



The Chicago based band, Styx dominated the charts during the mid seventies to late eighties. They had a series of muliplatinum albums and top ten hits. They continue to tour today, frequently with arch allies REO Speedwagon.

US Sales
Key
Album release year
Certification date
Album Title
RIAA Sales
Soundscan Sales

Studio Albums
1972 none Styx
1973 1975 Styx II 500,000
1973 none The Serpent is Rising
1974 none The Man of Miracles
1975 1977 Equinox 500,000
1976 1978 Crystal Ball 500,000
1977 1984 The Grand Illusion 3,000,000
1978 1984 Pieces of Eight 3,000,000
1979 1984 Cornerstone 2,000,000
1981 1984 Paradise Theatre 3,000,000
1983 1983 Kilroy Was Here 1,000,000
1990 1998 Edge of the Century 500,000
1999 none Brave New World 86,300 2005
2003 none Cyclorama 56,000 2005
2005 none Big Bang Theory 43,000 2005

Live Albums
1984 none Caught in the Act
1997 1998 Return to Paradise Theatre 500,000
2000 none Arch Allies: Live at Riverport
2001 none Styx World: Live 2001 22,400 2003
2002 none At the River’s Edge
2003 none 21st Century Live

Compilation Albums
1977 1984 Best of Styx 500,0001980 none Lady
1987 1994 Styx Classics Volume 15 500,000
1991 none Styx Radio-made Hits 1975-1991
1995 2005 Styx Greatest Hits 2,000,000 2,650,91202/2013
1996 none Styx Greatest Hits Part 2
1997 none The Best of Times: Best of Styx
1999 none Best of Styx 1973-1974
2000 none Extended Versions
2000 none Singles Collections
2001 none Yesterday and Today
2002 none 20th Century Masters 303,218 04/2012
2003 none Rockers
2004 none Come Sail Away: Styx Anthology
2005 none The Complete Wooden Nickel Recordings

Total RIAA Sales: 17.5 million

Canada Sales (CRIA)
1975 Equinox 100, 000
1976 Crystal Ball 50,000
1977 The Grand Illusion 100,000
1977 Best of Styx 100,000
1978 Pieces of Eight 100,000
1979 Cornerstone 100,000
1981 Paradise Theatre 100,000
1982 Kilroy Was Here 100,000
1995 Styx Greatest Hits 100,000
Total: 850,000
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:37 pm

http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2017/06 ... in-us.html

Nickelback Debuts at Number 5 in U.S.; Styx' Highest Charting Studio Album in 34 Years
6:54 PM Chart Watch - America, Nickelback, Styx
by VVN Music

Nickelback have scored their seventh straight top ten album with the number five debut of Feed the Machine.

While the band's first two albums didn't crack the top 100, they have since amassed a sixteen year run of albums none of which have charted lower than number 6.
Silver Side Up (2001 / #2)
The Long Road (2003 / #6)
All the Right Reasons (2005 / #1)
Dark Horse (2008 / #2)
Here and Now (2011 / #2)
No Fixed Address (2014 / #4)
Feed the Machine (2017 / #5)
The new album also tops the Hard Rock Albums chart and debuted at number 3 last Friday in Britain.

Big Boi's third solo album, Boomiverse, debuts at 28, just slightly better than his 2012 set Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors which peaked at 34. His 2010 solo debut, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, went to number 3.

The rapper, of course, had greater success as one-half of Outkast with Andre 3000 who had four straight top 2 albums between 1996 and 2003.

Styx are back with their first new studio album in twelve years, The Mission. This week, the LP debuts at 45, on spot higher than 2005's Big Bang Theory. The Mission actually gives the band their best chart position 34 years, since Kilroy Was Here went to 3 in 1983.

On the other hand, Cheap Trick's new album, We're All Alright!, opens at 63, thirty-two spots lower than their last set.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Toph » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:33 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2017/06/nickelback-debuts-at-number-5-in-us.html

Nickelback Debuts at Number 5 in U.S.; Styx' Highest Charting Studio Album in 34 Years
6:54 PM Chart Watch - America, Nickelback, Styx
by VVN Music

Nickelback have scored their seventh straight top ten album with the number five debut of Feed the Machine.

While the band's first two albums didn't crack the top 100, they have since amassed a sixteen year run of albums none of which have charted lower than number 6.
Silver Side Up (2001 / #2)
The Long Road (2003 / #6)
All the Right Reasons (2005 / #1)
Dark Horse (2008 / #2)
Here and Now (2011 / #2)
No Fixed Address (2014 / #4)
Feed the Machine (2017 / #5)
The new album also tops the Hard Rock Albums chart and debuted at number 3 last Friday in Britain.

Big Boi's third solo album, Boomiverse, debuts at 28, just slightly better than his 2012 set Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors which peaked at 34. His 2010 solo debut, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, went to number 3.

The rapper, of course, had greater success as one-half of Outkast with Andre 3000 who had four straight top 2 albums between 1996 and 2003.

Styx are back with their first new studio album in twelve years, The Mission. This week, the LP debuts at 45, on spot higher than 2005's Big Bang Theory. The Mission actually gives the band their best chart position 34 years, since Kilroy Was Here went to 3 in 1983.

On the other hand, Cheap Trick's new album, We're All Alright!, opens at 63, thirty-two spots lower than their last set.


Let's see where it is next week. Also, charts are very different in terms of how they are constructed. Back in 70s 80s and even 90s, albums had a slow rise to the chart (it might take a few weeks or even months for an album to reach its peak) and then stayed around on the chart (If they were fed singles and kept momentum). Now, given technology, it is almost immediate. This is why Brusco (asshole, but brilliant marketer) had all the marketing out there to pre-order. All pre-orders count in the first week sales. His goal - maximize the chart position in the first week, get some press, and then maybe a station will start playing Gone Gone Gone because of the popularity of the album. I doubt that will happen here.

Edge of The Century never had that big blast off moment of getting into the top 40 albums but stuck around in the 60s and 70s for months based upon the strength of SMTW and then the mid chart success of LAFS. It managed to keep that moderate chart position long enough to achieve Gold record status. Kind of the slow burn type of sales for that one. So while it never had that high peak, it chug along at a reasonable pace.

The problem with The Mission is that they have to keep the momentum up. That is usually done with singles. Nothing has achieved airplay yet. Look at what happened to Buckingham/McVie - #17 last week in its debut and this week....down to #95. Next week will likely be 150 or below or even off the chart.

That's why, as much as it would have pained these guys to do so since they can't acknowledge that Styx were successful beyond 1978, they might have considered a radio friendly mid tempo or ballad song on The Mission to release to at least have the potential for some airplay. Nothing on the LP, while some good music (still writing my review) has any remote chance of breaking through into the mainstream.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Toph » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:37 pm

Fact Finder wrote:
masque wrote:i think i read somewhere that big bang was somewhere between 35k-50k.


If this is accurate so are you. :D



The Chicago based band, Styx dominated the charts during the mid seventies to late eighties. They had a series of muliplatinum albums and top ten hits. They continue to tour today, frequently with arch allies REO Speedwagon.

US Sales
Key
Album release year
Certification date
Album Title
RIAA Sales
Soundscan Sales

Studio Albums
1972 none Styx
1973 1975 Styx II 500,000
1973 none The Serpent is Rising
1974 none The Man of Miracles
1975 1977 Equinox 500,000
1976 1978 Crystal Ball 500,000
1977 1984 The Grand Illusion 3,000,000
1978 1984 Pieces of Eight 3,000,000
1979 1984 Cornerstone 2,000,000
1981 1984 Paradise Theatre 3,000,000
1983 1983 Kilroy Was Here 1,000,000
1990 1998 Edge of the Century 500,000
1999 none Brave New World 86,300 2005
2003 none Cyclorama 56,000 2005
2005 none Big Bang Theory 43,000 2005

Live Albums
1984 none Caught in the Act
1997 1998 Return to Paradise Theatre 500,000
2000 none Arch Allies: Live at Riverport
2001 none Styx World: Live 2001 22,400 2003
2002 none At the River’s Edge
2003 none 21st Century Live

Compilation Albums
1977 1984 Best of Styx 500,0001980 none Lady
1987 1994 Styx Classics Volume 15 500,000
1991 none Styx Radio-made Hits 1975-1991
1995 2005 Styx Greatest Hits 2,000,000 2,650,91202/2013
1996 none Styx Greatest Hits Part 2
1997 none The Best of Times: Best of Styx
1999 none Best of Styx 1973-1974
2000 none Extended Versions
2000 none Singles Collections
2001 none Yesterday and Today
2002 none 20th Century Masters 303,218 04/2012
2003 none Rockers
2004 none Come Sail Away: Styx Anthology
2005 none The Complete Wooden Nickel Recordings

Total RIAA Sales: 17.5 million

Canada Sales (CRIA)
1975 Equinox 100, 000
1976 Crystal Ball 50,000
1977 The Grand Illusion 100,000
1977 Best of Styx 100,000
1978 Pieces of Eight 100,000
1979 Cornerstone 100,000
1981 Paradise Theatre 100,000
1982 Kilroy Was Here 100,000
1995 Styx Greatest Hits 100,000
Total: 850,000


This is way out of date and RIAA certifications aren't very accurate. First, RIAA has stopped acknowledging anything with Styx (and many older acs) and A&M hasn't pushed certification (while acknowledge more sold - just means writing more checks to the artist).

Here's what we do know that is not here
Cornerstone is definitely 3X platinum
Cornerstone - biggest worldwide seller and achieved overseas certifications in much of Europe
Paradise and GI have sold at least 4X if not 5X
Kilroy achieved 2X platinum
GH achieved 3X platinum
Equinox was getting close to being platinum
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby brywool » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:30 am

Toph wrote:
That's why, as much as it would have pained these guys to do so since they can't acknowledge that Styx were successful beyond 1978, they might have considered a radio friendly mid tempo or ballad song on The Mission to release to at least have the potential for some airplay.


But doesn't that then say that it's all about sales and not about making a great piece of art? Good on ANY band that sticks to what they want to be creating rather than what someone tells them they need to create to get a hit. That whole "I don't hear a single" business is such a ridiculous notion not to mention subjective as hell. The record business isn't what it was whatsoever and for people to keep thinking singles are the way to go... I dunno if I see the logic in that. Pink Floyd never had a number 1 single and they did ok. Same with Zep. Same with so many others. I do like that Styx has always been an 'album' band that had singles that did well. As opposed to the opposite (a band that made singles and got lucky with their albums).

I do think the band should keep making videos. It's something that fans can share to spread the word. AND it wouldn't be that difficult. Take a bunch of fan videos from Youtube. Splice them together to look like a multi-camera shoot. Slap the original recording over it and go. OR just get a great multicam live take from any show. I saw a clip of "Radio Silence" a few days ago that was really great. Not good enough for an "official" video due to the camera angles, but still definitely worth sharing, in fact there are THREE videos on youtube from this same performance at the Greek, here's one: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3fFKIg2BsM). Grab each one, spliced together, lay the studio track over it and go.

I'm just glad there's new original music from the band and it's nice to see Styx (for once) do something that gets high praise from critics.

If we are thinking that Styx will somehow have a number 1 release, or if they don't then they must suck is just ludicrous. Nobody from 'our' era is going to have those kinds of sales.

Jesus, how does a band sell music today???
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:38 am

Toph wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2017/06/nickelback-debuts-at-number-5-in-us.html

Nickelback Debuts at Number 5 in U.S.; Styx' Highest Charting Studio Album in 34 Years
6:54 PM Chart Watch - America, Nickelback, Styx
by VVN Music

Nickelback have scored their seventh straight top ten album with the number five debut of Feed the Machine.

While the band's first two albums didn't crack the top 100, they have since amassed a sixteen year run of albums none of which have charted lower than number 6.
Silver Side Up (2001 / #2)
The Long Road (2003 / #6)
All the Right Reasons (2005 / #1)
Dark Horse (2008 / #2)
Here and Now (2011 / #2)
No Fixed Address (2014 / #4)
Feed the Machine (2017 / #5)
The new album also tops the Hard Rock Albums chart and debuted at number 3 last Friday in Britain.

Big Boi's third solo album, Boomiverse, debuts at 28, just slightly better than his 2012 set Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors which peaked at 34. His 2010 solo debut, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, went to number 3.

The rapper, of course, had greater success as one-half of Outkast with Andre 3000 who had four straight top 2 albums between 1996 and 2003.

Styx are back with their first new studio album in twelve years, The Mission. This week, the LP debuts at 45, on spot higher than 2005's Big Bang Theory. The Mission actually gives the band their best chart position 34 years, since Kilroy Was Here went to 3 in 1983.

On the other hand, Cheap Trick's new album, We're All Alright!, opens at 63, thirty-two spots lower than their last set.


Let's see where it is next week. Also, charts are very different in terms of how they are constructed. Back in 70s 80s and even 90s, albums had a slow rise to the chart (it might take a few weeks or even months for an album to reach its peak) and then stayed around on the chart (If they were fed singles and kept momentum). Now, given technology, it is almost immediate. This is why Brusco (asshole, but brilliant marketer) had all the marketing out there to pre-order. All pre-orders count in the first week sales. His goal - maximize the chart position in the first week, get some press, and then maybe a station will start playing Gone Gone Gone because of the popularity of the album. I doubt that will happen here.

Edge of The Century never had that big blast off moment of getting into the top 40 albums but stuck around in the 60s and 70s for months based upon the strength of SMTW and then the mid chart success of LAFS. It managed to keep that moderate chart position long enough to achieve Gold record status. Kind of the slow burn type of sales for that one. So while it never had that high peak, it chug along at a reasonable pace.

The problem with The Mission is that they have to keep the momentum up. That is usually done with singles. Nothing has achieved airplay yet. Look at what happened to Buckingham/McVie - #17 last week in its debut and this week....down to #95. Next week will likely be 150 or below or even off the chart.

That's why, as much as it would have pained these guys to do so since they can't acknowledge that Styx were successful beyond 1978, they might have considered a radio friendly mid tempo or ballad song on The Mission to release to at least have the potential for some airplay. Nothing on the LP, while some good music (still writing my review) has any remote chance of breaking through into the mainstream.


All good points. Based on all the changes over the years in the business, maybe they should consider changing the number of sales needed to achieve a gold record.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:40 am

The Mission is still at #24 on the overall amazon sales chart which is updated several times a day. I'm sure the tour will also help to keep sales coming in.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby brywool » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:57 am

I wonder if the band is selling the CD at their shows (I'd think so) and if so, do those numbers get tossed into the tally? (I would doubt it)
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Archetype » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:09 am

If nothing else, I hope they at least broke even on the project. They win, the fans win, and they have incentive to write more music knowing they won't lose money on it.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Jodes » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:52 am

ChicagoSTYX wrote:
Toph wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2017/06/nickelback-debuts-at-number-5-in-us.html

Nickelback Debuts at Number 5 in U.S.; Styx' Highest Charting Studio Album in 34 Years
6:54 PM Chart Watch - America, Nickelback, Styx
by VVN Music

Nickelback have scored their seventh straight top ten album with the number five debut of Feed the Machine.

While the band's first two albums didn't crack the top 100, they have since amassed a sixteen year run of albums none of which have charted lower than number 6.
Silver Side Up (2001 / #2)
The Long Road (2003 / #6)
All the Right Reasons (2005 / #1)
Dark Horse (2008 / #2)
Here and Now (2011 / #2)
No Fixed Address (2014 / #4)
Feed the Machine (2017 / #5)
The new album also tops the Hard Rock Albums chart and debuted at number 3 last Friday in Britain.

Big Boi's third solo album, Boomiverse, debuts at 28, just slightly better than his 2012 set Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors which peaked at 34. His 2010 solo debut, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, went to number 3.

The rapper, of course, had greater success as one-half of Outkast with Andre 3000 who had four straight top 2 albums between 1996 and 2003.

Styx are back with their first new studio album in twelve years, The Mission. This week, the LP debuts at 45, on spot higher than 2005's Big Bang Theory. The Mission actually gives the band their best chart position 34 years, since Kilroy Was Here went to 3 in 1983.

On the other hand, Cheap Trick's new album, We're All Alright!, opens at 63, thirty-two spots lower than their last set.


Let's see where it is next week. Also, charts are very different in terms of how they are constructed. Back in 70s 80s and even 90s, albums had a slow rise to the chart (it might take a few weeks or even months for an album to reach its peak) and then stayed around on the chart (If they were fed singles and kept momentum). Now, given technology, it is almost immediate. This is why Brusco (asshole, but brilliant marketer) had all the marketing out there to pre-order. All pre-orders count in the first week sales. His goal - maximize the chart position in the first week, get some press, and then maybe a station will start playing Gone Gone Gone because of the popularity of the album. I doubt that will happen here.

Edge of The Century never had that big blast off moment of getting into the top 40 albums but stuck around in the 60s and 70s for months based upon the strength of SMTW and then the mid chart success of LAFS. It managed to keep that moderate chart position long enough to achieve Gold record status. Kind of the slow burn type of sales for that one. So while it never had that high peak, it chug along at a reasonable pace.

The problem with The Mission is that they have to keep the momentum up. That is usually done with singles. Nothing has achieved airplay yet. Look at what happened to Buckingham/McVie - #17 last week in its debut and this week....down to #95. Next week will likely be 150 or below or even off the chart.

That's why, as much as it would have pained these guys to do so since they can't acknowledge that Styx were successful beyond 1978, they might have considered a radio friendly mid tempo or ballad song on The Mission to release to at least have the potential for some airplay. Nothing on the LP, while some good music (still writing my review) has any remote chance of breaking through into the mainstream.


All good points. Based on all the changes over the years in the business, maybe they should consider changing the number of sales needed to achieve a gold record.



They have in Canada.. as of a few years ago, Gold is 40,000 Copies, Platinum is 80,000 copies sold.

I believe DVDs/Blu Rays are still 5000,10,000 though..
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Boomchild » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:36 am

brywool wrote:I wonder if the band is selling the CD at their shows (I'd think so) and if so, do those numbers get tossed into the tally? (I would doubt it)


I guess that would depend on how they count albums as sold. If they go by actual purchases by customers at retail, then I would say no. But if they base the sales on the number of copies ordered and shipped by distribution then I would say yes.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Toph » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:59 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:The Mission is still at #24 on the overall amazon sales chart which is updated several times a day. I'm sure the tour will also help to keep sales coming in.


#64 on Amazon on 6/29
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Monker » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:05 pm

Toph wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:The Mission is still at #24 on the overall amazon sales chart which is updated several times a day. I'm sure the tour will also help to keep sales coming in.


#64 on Amazon on 6/29


No, #31. I'm sure it goes up and down throughout the day/night.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Toph » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:17 pm

Monker wrote:
Toph wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:The Mission is still at #24 on the overall amazon sales chart which is updated several times a day. I'm sure the tour will also help to keep sales coming in.


#64 on Amazon on 6/29


No, #31. I'm sure it goes up and down throughout the day/night.


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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Monker » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:05 pm

Toph wrote:Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #118 Paid in Albums (See Top 100 Paid in Albums)


That is under digital music. I wouldn't expect Styx to sell a lot of digital copies.

In CD/Vinyl they are still at #32
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:47 pm

Monker wrote:
Toph wrote:Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #118 Paid in Albums (See Top 100 Paid in Albums)


That is under digital music. I wouldn't expect Styx to sell a lot of digital copies.

In CD/Vinyl they are still at #32


They are at 33 on amazon overall sales. And at 50 on daily double sales chart which is great for them on week 2.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Monker » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:19 pm

ChicagoSTYX wrote:
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Toph wrote:Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #118 Paid in Albums (See Top 100 Paid in Albums)


That is under digital music. I wouldn't expect Styx to sell a lot of digital copies.

In CD/Vinyl they are still at #32


They are at 33 on amazon overall sales. And at 50 on daily double sales chart which is great for them on week 2.


Where are they on Billboard? I agree that this isn't too bad for Amazon, but I have always felt Amazon charts are a bit sketchy anyway...If they stay in the top 100 on Billboard, that will be good news.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:40 pm

The new billboard chart will be available on Tuesday, maybe Wednesday because of the holiday.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Toph » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:30 am

Monker wrote:
Toph wrote:Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #118 Paid in Albums (See Top 100 Paid in Albums)


That is under digital music. I wouldn't expect Styx to sell a lot of digital copies.

In CD/Vinyl they are still at #32


That's all great, but Billboard ranks them by all copies sold, including digital.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Monker » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:53 am

Toph wrote:
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Toph wrote:Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #118 Paid in Albums (See Top 100 Paid in Albums)


That is under digital music. I wouldn't expect Styx to sell a lot of digital copies.

In CD/Vinyl they are still at #32


That's all great, but Billboard ranks them by all copies sold, including digital.


Just stop. You posted the wrong chart. Talk about "fake news".

ChicagoSTYX posted the "all media" (or whatever) chart from Amazon and they are still at #33.

I already wondered and asked about Billboard because Amazon is sketchy anyway.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby ChicagoSTYX » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:57 am

Daily Double (sales chart) had them at 23 for the first week. Week 2 has them at 44. Based on that they, should drop to between 75 and 95 on the Billboard chart for week 2. That is just a guess. We'll see on Wednesday. They are at 92 on the iTunes rock chart now which is up over 50 spots in the past few days. At 30 on amazon's overall chart. Sunday 8pm central time.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Toph » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:40 pm

You know Monkey Boy, I am wrong. They aren't 118. They're now #140

"Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #140 Paid in Albums"

Fall baby fall!

When you don't have a playable single, this is what happens.
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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

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Re: Billboard Charts Week 1

Postby Monker » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:50 am

Toph wrote:You know Monkey Boy, I am wrong. They aren't 118. They're now #140

"Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #140 Paid in Albums"

Fall baby fall!

When you don't have a playable single, this is what happens.


First of all, I don't care as much as you do where the CD charts. It's a good CD regardless.

But, you are posting misleading information. When you are on your chart, all you have to do is look to the left and see the tree of how you got there. It is under DIGITAL MUSIC. The "Paid" means that it only ranks people who paid to download the album...some albums are available on digital for free for PRIME Members.

You know the truth...so please quit lying to people and misrepresenting things.

I agree that they will still be in the top 100 for Billboarrd...they have hardly dropped on Amazon That's pretty good!
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