Why no deluxe edition releases?

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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby Baron Von Bielski » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:26 pm

Boomchild wrote:
StyxGuy wrote:
Boomchild wrote:A "digitally remastered" version of CTA has popped up on Amazon. Strangely it's only one disc and does not appear to be complete.

https://www.amazon.com/Caught-Act-Live- ... words=Styx



Looks like it's done by BGO Records. Amazon UK shows it as a Feb 2 release.

http://www.bgo-records.com/albums/bgocd ... e-act-live

They're the same company that made the Equinox/Crystal Ball single CD.


Wonder how this would compare to the A&M SHM remastered release?


It would be tough to match. The SHM mini lp release of Caught in the Act is awesome. Probably the best of all the SHM Styx releases. Sounds excellent. A vast improvement of the original CD release.
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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby GrandIllusionist725 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:01 am

I received my copy of the remastered BGO Caught in the Act CD and I have to say, they did a great job with this remaster. Sounds great, everything is clear, and much better than the original.

Had a history of the band in the liner notes, but it looked like something that someone had typed up in a blog. Mentioned other bands and their histories way too much. But i'll take what I can get when it comes to this release. Still wish they could've done it some justice and threw in Heavy Metal Poisoning, Cold War, Renegade, and Haven't we Been Here Before.
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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby StyxGuy » Tue May 08, 2018 3:31 am

I know I've read interviews where Dennis said it before, but here's the words straight form the horses mouth.

There pretty much are no Styx out-takes or demos... they recorded and kept finished products and that seems to be it.

http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/sho ... hp?id=1266


DD: You don't ever see any outtakes from Styx, do you?

Jeb: No.

DD: That's because I didn't allow it. Those assholes at Wooden Nickel/RCA...they put out a Greatest Hits album after "Lady". We only had one hit! The rest of the stuff was...well come on! I put my foot down. If you record extra material these record companies are going to do what they want with it and I didn't want that.

We would come into the studio and kick ideas back and forth until we had something to record. In all that time we only had one song rejected.
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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby artinis1 » Tue May 08, 2018 6:34 am

But there must be some older live recordings by the band right? Something from say
Cornerstone or Paradise Theater days
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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby StyxGuy » Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 am

artinis1 wrote:But there must be some older live recordings by the band right? Something from say
Cornerstone or Paradise Theater days


As far as Styx specifically recording and not having released concerts, I'm not sure there are any... however;

I know that there's B&W video of Styx playing the Winterland from 1978 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W12irfo3w24

I believe Dennis has also stated that at least one of their 1997 shows was recorded and he was certain a full show that could be put to video exists.

This one from Paradise Theater... might have been an in-house recording? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjD4oc2WWX8

and another from Japan - https://youtu.be/CZQYXqJo8ds
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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby Cassie May » Tue May 08, 2018 10:38 am

StyxGuy wrote:
artinis1 wrote:But there must be some older live recordings by the band right? Something from say
Cornerstone or Paradise Theater days


As far as Styx specifically recording and not having released concerts, I'm not sure there are any... however;

I know that there's B&W video of Styx playing the Winterland from 1978 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W12irfo3w24

I believe Dennis has also stated that at least one of their 1997 shows was recorded and he was certain a full show that could be put to video exists.

This one from Paradise Theater... might have been an in-house recording? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjD4oc2WWX8

and another from Japan - https://youtu.be/CZQYXqJo8ds


Styx' manager, Derek Sutton, did not allow the band to be filmed live during their heyday. He didn't allow much press at all, as he was tired of the band being eviscerated by the media.

However, footage does exist from in-house cameras. There are two concerts from the Winterland Ballroom in San Fransisco, from April 1976 (Equinox tour) and January, 1978 (Grand Illusion tour). The footage from 1981 is from the Capital Center in-house camera.
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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby StyxGuy » Tue May 08, 2018 1:57 pm

Cassie May wrote:
StyxGuy wrote:
artinis1 wrote:But there must be some older live recordings by the band right? Something from say
Cornerstone or Paradise Theater days


As far as Styx specifically recording and not having released concerts, I'm not sure there are any... however;

I know that there's B&W video of Styx playing the Winterland from 1978 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W12irfo3w24

I believe Dennis has also stated that at least one of their 1997 shows was recorded and he was certain a full show that could be put to video exists.

This one from Paradise Theater... might have been an in-house recording? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjD4oc2WWX8

and another from Japan - https://youtu.be/CZQYXqJo8ds


Styx' manager, Derek Sutton, did not allow the band to be filmed live during their heyday. He didn't allow much press at all, as he was tired of the band being eviscerated by the media.

However, footage does exist from in-house cameras. There are two concerts from the Winterland Ballroom in San Fransisco, from April 1976 (Equinox tour) and January, 1978 (Grand Illusion tour). The footage from 1981 is from the Capital Center in-house camera.



In the mid-2000's The Who started recording and releasing every concert they did on audio and video which I think is really neat, especially with in-house cameras being of better quality by then.

I saw Casino Rama (where Styx plays almost every year, about 3 hours from where I live) had footage for a promo video, and it was great. I would have paid $15 for a copy of the concert (with a bit of better editing and mixing) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUAFvys4mm4
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Re: Why no deluxe edition releases?

Postby Abitaman » Fri May 18, 2018 7:01 pm

would it be worth paying the extra money for live songs? If it had something recorded on that tour for the album, I think so. Equinox could have songs recorded during that tour would be great. Same for the other ones too.
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