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LtVanish wrote:Dennis seems to have gotten kinda upset over Styx playing Roboto, ever since they have started to play it he has gotten pretty defensive on everything that happened. This is one of the best interviews, mainly cause there seems to be no time limit, and he just lets Dennis keep talking.
LtVanish wrote:Dennis seems to have gotten kinda upset over Styx playing Roboto, ever since they have started to play it he has gotten pretty defensive on everything that happened. This is one of the best interviews, mainly cause there seems to be no time limit, and he just lets Dennis keep talking.
StyxGuy wrote:honestly, I'm kind of walking away from this one thinking that Dennis doesn't give as fuck about being friends with his bandmates, just that they as a collective made some great music and should be the ones presenting it to the fans, anything else is not right... which he's got to understand the other guys don't want it like that... they want to be friends.
Boomchild wrote:LtVanish wrote:Dennis seems to have gotten kinda upset over Styx playing Roboto, ever since they have started to play it he has gotten pretty defensive on everything that happened. This is one of the best interviews, mainly cause there seems to be no time limit, and he just lets Dennis keep talking.
I think DDY is just being more publicly open about what is positions have been on things. he clearly is pointing out their hypocrisy. DDY points out TS is finally admitting that he always liked Roboto. This after years of disparaging the song and the concept. DDY points out that in '97 that he stepped up to the plate to help out TS when TS had money issues. TS and JY repaid that by moving on without him.
LtVanish wrote:
Yes and I think there is more there on this. I think management knew Styx could be another band that could tour every year on these package tours, and the money that could be made, but also knowing Dennis would never go along with this kind of touring something had to be done. Tommy and JY wanted to make more money, probably cause they have never had as much as Dennis with the royalties.
Boomchild wrote:LtVanish wrote:
Yes and I think there is more there on this. I think management knew Styx could be another band that could tour every year on these package tours, and the money that could be made, but also knowing Dennis would never go along with this kind of touring something had to be done. Tommy and JY wanted to make more money, probably cause they have never had as much as Dennis with the royalties.
Dennis actually talked about this very subject in the interview. He noted that he has the numbers of the package tours Styx has been doing. Which would make sense since it has been mentioned that the settlement provided Dennis with a cut of the profits from Styx' live performances. What he said was the numbers aren't what people think they are and offered to detail that information with interviewer.
gr8dane wrote:
Guess for Styx,less is more.
Boomchild wrote:gr8dane wrote:
Guess for Styx,less is more.
Not really. Obviously with DDY no longer in the band TS and JY stand to make more money even if they still have to give him a cut of the profits. I'm sure it's not the same kind of percentage as if he was still an active member of the group. It's my contention that from the get go the ousting was really about control of the business and money.
Boomchild wrote:gr8dane wrote:
Not really. Obviously with DDY no longer in the band TS and JY stand to make more money even if they still have to give him a cut of the profits. I'm sure it's not the same kind of percentage as if he was still an active member of the group. It's my contention that from the get go the ousting was really about control of the business and money.
Less Dennis,more happiness.
Less Dennis,more freedom.
Cassie May wrote:
Less Dennis, more opportunity to tour as long and as often as they want, which is what they love to do. Tommy has been a road dog since he was 19; JY also loves to travel and perform.
Not trying to stir up any shit here, but just musing aloud. It seems to me that for Dennis, it's more of an ego thing than anything else. Styx is "his" band, Styx is "these five guys," he "never imagined a time he wouldn't be in the band." Well, I would love to ask him if he would be willing to work the 110-120 shows Styx does per year. I believe he would not; even during their heyday, Styx played 80 shows per year and they had to be constructed in such a way that Dennis had multiple opportunities to be home. He doesn't like the travel; he doesn't like to be away from home much. There is nothing wrong with that, and I'm not faulting him for it. I just really wonder what he personally would gain by being back in the band. He would never agree to the schedule Styx plays now. Actually, Dennis has the perfect set-up for himself; he has a band of hand-picked musicians, he can play as many or as few shows as he wants, and he can play his songs that Styx won't touch. I think his ego just can't tolerate that he is no longer in the band, and that the band continues on as a popular touring act, with a passionate fan base, and they do it without him. I read part of this interview on Ultimate Classic Rock, and Dennis comes off as very bitter. It's been 19 years already; I hope that he's able to finally make peace with what happened in the past and get over it. From what they've said in interviews, Tommy and JY have and they're happier for it. Dennis needs to find his happy.
yogi wrote:AWESOME interview. Dennis is soo great.
I do wish that Mitch would have asked him about the Mission album and what Dennis thought of it. Dennis was the concept guy and the others seemed to hate concept albums and then Tommy comes in and basically forces a concept album on the band now called Styx. Tommy's bandmates all jump at the chance to do a concept album. I love the album, but since its a concept album it defines the word hypocritical. It screams hypocrite.
I support both camps but like I have always said their was only one TRUE SUPERSTAR in the band and that TRUE SUPERSTAR without a doubt was Dennis.
In past New York Yankees baseball terms Dennis = Derek Jeter or Mariano Rivera, Tommy = Paul O'Neal or Andy Pettitte, JY = Chuck Knoblauch or Ramiro Mendoza and the others are the guys who surround those 3.
GREAT interview Mitch & Dennis!!
Thanks for posting!!!!!
Boomchild wrote:LtVanish wrote:Dennis seems to have gotten kinda upset over Styx playing Roboto, ever since they have started to play it he has gotten pretty defensive on everything that happened. This is one of the best interviews, mainly cause there seems to be no time limit, and he just lets Dennis keep talking.
I think DDY is just being more publicly open about what is positions have been on things. he clearly is pointing out their hypocrisy. DDY points out TS is finally admitting that he always liked Roboto. This after years of disparaging the song and the concept. DDY points out that in '97 that he stepped up to the plate to help out TS when TS had money issues. TS and JY repaid that by moving on without him.
FormerDJMike wrote:And now this:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8466376/styx-dennis-deyoung-mr-roboto-concert-decision-promoters
Archetype wrote:Styx does seem to be experiencing a resurgence of sort. They’re the actual headlining act of their current summer tour, and it appears to be doing extremely well, attendance-wise. The Mission also received far more attention than Cyclorama or even Brave New World did. I suspect that Dennis is particularly irked by this.
masque wrote:FormerDJMike wrote:And now this:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8466376/styx-dennis-deyoung-mr-roboto-concert-decision-promoters
I agree with the band's statement......I dont think there is any chance any promoters are asking them to add missing songs to their sets........and if they were, why wouldn't they ask for it be babe instead? their only #1 hit.
this is just turning into some grumpy old dudes getting grumpier as the days go by.
masque wrote:
just asking a polite question here.......when did TS ever publicly say he actually disliked the song Mr. Roboto? The only thing I remember hearing him say was by the time Kilroy came about he was totally burned on the idea of doing ANY concepts and couldn't think of songs about robots.
in all of the interviews I have seen with him or read from him over the years, the only thing I have ever heard him say was that songs like babe and first time was an area they didn't need to go into, the band was big enough already. did I miss something?
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