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Boomchild wrote:That what a lot of people would like to know. Dennis has always seemed to not say much until things are "in the can". Which for me is somewhat frustrating. A few months ago I believe he reported that recording was in process.

ChicagoSTYX wrote:I would guess it will be a digital only release if it happens at all.

steveo777 wrote:I watched the DDY and the music of Styx concert on YouTube the other day. I was quite impressed with how great his band is. I felt like I was watching a Styx concert. Suite Madam Blue...wow! How in the hell does he have a voice like that and such breathing ability, at that age?

brywool wrote:Saw Styx the other night. Tommy's voice is so much better than it's ever been. Saw Dennis a few months ago - also great. I hear him going into head voice in different parts than he used to, but it's big and full. He sounds great. These guys know what they're doing vocally. Jy's voice has been beaten up, which is sad. People don't give JY enough credit. His head voice is such a big part of the Styx Harmony Block. If you listen to his solo album or the James Young Group album, listen to the backup vocals. They sound like Styx. As a lead singer, he's not my favorite. As a harmony singer, man, you gotta have him in there. Gowan's voice is also better than it's ever been. He was great as well.

masque wrote:JY's best vocal performance ever was Great White Hope. One of my top five styx songs ever.

brywool wrote:

masque wrote:JY's best vocal performance ever was Great White Hope. One of my top five styx songs ever.

Yeah, I agree with you on that. Also You Need Love and Midnight Ride.

Boomchild wrote:

brywool wrote:Saw Styx the other night. Tommy's voice is so much better than it's ever been. Saw Dennis a few months ago - also great. I hear him going into head voice in different parts than he used to, but it's big and full. He sounds great. These guys know what they're doing vocally. Jy's voice has been beaten up, which is sad. People don't give JY enough credit. His head voice is such a big part of the Styx Harmony Block. If you listen to his solo album or the James Young Group album, listen to the backup vocals. They sound like Styx. As a lead singer, he's not my favorite. As a harmony singer, man, you gotta have him in there. Gowan's voice is also better than it's ever been. He was great as well.

JY certainly is part of that Styx harmony sound signature. That signature was DDY\TS\JY and for me at least, you can't duplicate it using other people. This is one of the main factors for my loss of interest in the band now known as Styx. As far as JY on lead vocals, I liked his performances on the WN releases the best. It's truly sad that special magic has been lost forever.

gr8dane wrote:OK then.
If you don't like Styx doing Styx because it isn't the DDY/Tommy/JY combo, does that mean you don't like Dennis doing Styx because it isn't the DDY/Tommy/JY ??

Boomchild wrote:

gr8dane wrote:OK then.
If you don't like Styx doing Styx because it isn't the DDY/Tommy/JY combo, does that mean you don't like Dennis doing Styx because it isn't the DDY/Tommy/JY ??

You would have a point if I said that was the only reason I am no longer interested in the band. But that is not the case. There is more. Off the top of my head:

DDY is no longer in the band.
I am not a fan of Gowan on songs where DDY was the lead singer.
I didn't like how they handled DDY's departure and things they said and did after the fact.
They are not playing songs I would like to hear when seeing them Live.

What you have is a version of the band that is different then when DDY was part of it and it just doesn't interest me anymore. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and saw them live post DDY's ousting. They didn't do anything that motivated me to want to see them again. As far as DDY's band and live shows, it is more to my liking. He plays the stuff I want to hear. His show is structured like Styx shows used to be. I get to hear DDY sing his songs, not a replacement. No the harmonies are not the same but the other things I like about his group and live shows outweighs that. It's all a personal choice. I don't expect everyone else to think or feel the same way. I'm not looking to convert people. If you are happen to like Styx as they are now, then more power to ya.

gr8dane wrote:Funny that.
I have always loved that Tommy/JY and Chuck ended up standing up to Dennis for being Mr. Bossypants.I wonder if Dennis regret a few things, and wish he had done things differently now.?
I guess if you are a Dennis fan, you get Babe and Suzanne as backup singer.

Boomchild wrote:

gr8dane wrote:Funny that.
I have always loved that Tommy/JY and Chuck ended up standing up to Dennis for being Mr. Bossypants.I wonder if Dennis regret a few things, and wish he had done things differently now.?
I guess if you are a Dennis fan, you get Babe and Suzanne as backup singer.

Well good for you. It doesn't impact what I or anyone else here chooses to do.

gr8dane wrote:

Boomchild wrote:

gr8dane wrote:Funny that.
I have always loved that Tommy/JY and Chuck ended up standing up to Dennis for being Mr. Bossypants.I wonder if Dennis regret a few things, and wish he had done things differently now.?
I guess if you are a Dennis fan, you get Babe and Suzanne as backup singer.

Well good for you. It doesn't impact what I or anyone else here chooses to do.

Isn't it though.?
Don't expect it to impact what you or anyone else chooses to do.Why would I.?
But these things don't happen too often does it ? I sided with Gilmour/Wright and Mason too.
Good ole Dennis.

gr8dane wrote:

Boomchild wrote:

gr8dane wrote:OK then.
If you don't like Styx doing Styx because it isn't the DDY/Tommy/JY combo, does that mean you don't like Dennis doing Styx because it isn't the DDY/Tommy/JY ??

You would have a point if I said that was the only reason I am no longer interested in the band. But that is not the case. There is more. Off the top of my head:

DDY is no longer in the band.
I am not a fan of Gowan on songs where DDY was the lead singer.
I didn't like how they handled DDY's departure and things they said and did after the fact.
They are not playing songs I would like to hear when seeing them Live.

What you have is a version of the band that is different then when DDY was part of it and it just doesn't interest me anymore. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and saw them live post DDY's ousting. They didn't do anything that motivated me to want to see them again. As far as DDY's band and live shows, it is more to my liking. He plays the stuff I want to hear. His show is structured like Styx shows used to be. I get to hear DDY sing his songs, not a replacement. No the harmonies are not the same but the other things I like about his group and live shows outweighs that. It's all a personal choice. I don't expect everyone else to think or feel the same way. I'm not looking to convert people. If you are happen to like Styx as they are now, then more power to ya.

Funny that.
I have always loved that Tommy/JY and Chuck ended up standing up to Dennis for being Mr. Bossypants.I wonder if Dennis regret a few things, and wish he had done things differently now.?
I guess if you are a Dennis fan, you get Babe and Suzanne as backup singer.

Boomchild wrote:

brywool wrote:Saw Styx the other night. Tommy's voice is so much better than it's ever been. Saw Dennis a few months ago - also great. I hear him going into head voice in different parts than he used to, but it's big and full. He sounds great. These guys know what they're doing vocally. Jy's voice has been beaten up, which is sad. People don't give JY enough credit. His head voice is such a big part of the Styx Harmony Block. If you listen to his solo album or the James Young Group album, listen to the backup vocals. They sound like Styx. As a lead singer, he's not my favorite. As a harmony singer, man, you gotta have him in there. Gowan's voice is also better than it's ever been. He was great as well.

JY certainly is part of that Styx harmony sound signature. That signature was DDY\TS\JY and for me at least, you can't duplicate it using other people. This is one of the main factors for my loss of interest in the band now known as Styx. As far as JY on lead vocals, I liked his performances on the WN releases the best. It's truly sad that special magic has been lost forever.

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Don't forget.....

"Mr. Bossy Pants" turned Crystal Ball into a prog. rock song with a chorus and encouraged Tommy Shaw the step in the spotlight!

Mr. BP turned Shaw’s acoustic Crosby Stills and Nash style demo into a rock song called Renegade instead of all 3 part harmonies!

Mr. BP against JY and mgmt wishes had TS record Boat on the River giving Styx and TS arguably their most important song outside N America!

Mr. BP refused to replace TS over the objections of JY, JP and CP when he left Styx to go solo!!!!!

Mr. BP asked TS to re record Lady in 1995 which led to the 1996 and 97 reunion tours!!

Mr. BP found a way to keep the balance between the song writers from Crystal Ball to Kilroy Was Here. Glen Burtnik lasted one album in Styx when it was clear he would be given less then what he got when Mr. BP was producing!

Mr. BP mixes including Renegade and BCM are the ones we have been listening to for the last 40 years!

How dare Mr. BP ruin my favorite band!!!!!!!

gr8dane wrote:

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Don't forget.....

"Mr. Bossy Pants" turned Crystal Ball into a prog. rock song with a chorus and encouraged Tommy Shaw the step in the spotlight!

Mr. BP turned Shaw’s acoustic Crosby Stills and Nash style demo into a rock song called Renegade instead of all 3 part harmonies!

Mr. BP against JY and mgmt wishes had TS record Boat on the River giving Styx and TS arguably their most important song outside N America!

Mr. BP refused to replace TS over the objections of JY, JP and CP when he left Styx to go solo!!!!!

Mr. BP asked TS to re record Lady in 1995 which led to the 1996 and 97 reunion tours!!

Mr. BP found a way to keep the balance between the song writers from Crystal Ball to Kilroy Was Here. Glen Burtnik lasted one album in Styx when it was clear he would be given less then what he got when Mr. BP was producing!

Mr. BP mixes including Renegade and BCM are the ones we have been listening to for the last 40 years!

How dare Mr. BP ruin my favorite band!!!!!!!

All good points........ but, you could also make a list of negatives just as long. I’ll start...

Mr. BP spends 500k on Kilroy 14 minute movie against the rest of the bands wishes.

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:

gr8dane wrote:

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Don't forget.....

"Mr. Bossy Pants" turned Crystal Ball into a prog. rock song with a chorus and encouraged Tommy Shaw the step in the spotlight!

Mr. BP turned Shaw’s acoustic Crosby Stills and Nash style demo into a rock song called Renegade instead of all 3 part harmonies!

Mr. BP against JY and mgmt wishes had TS record Boat on the River giving Styx and TS arguably their most important song outside N America!

Mr. BP refused to replace TS over the objections of JY, JP and CP when he left Styx to go solo!!!!!

Mr. BP asked TS to re record Lady in 1995 which led to the 1996 and 97 reunion tours!!

Mr. BP found a way to keep the balance between the song writers from Crystal Ball to Kilroy Was Here. Glen Burtnik lasted one album in Styx when it was clear he would be given less then what he got when Mr. BP was producing!

Mr. BP mixes including Renegade and BCM are the ones we have been listening to for the last 40 years!

How dare Mr. BP ruin my favorite band!!!!!!!

All good points........ but, you could also make a list of negatives just as long. I’ll start...

Mr. BP spends 500k on Kilroy 14 minute movie against the rest of the bands wishes.

Ahh,Suite.Perfect timing.
Here we are talking about ,when Dennis' new album is coming out.?
...and if Dennis has regretted some of the things, that got him fired.?
You talk to Dennis,so has he said anything about either ?
If not?.Maybe you could ask him about those things.?
I didn't forget.
Did you forget, for Crystal Ball was in the making,Dennis didn't really feel he had much to offer, hence his encouragement to Tommy.
500k on Kilroy movie,LOL

ChicagoSTYX wrote:I’ve got a bad feeling about this!