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Which Survivor is/was better?

Late 70's era
2
2%
Early 80's era
32
37%
Middle to late 80's
45
52%
Early to Mid 90's (including the FMS album)
2
2%
Late 90's to 2000
0
No votes
From 2000-2006 (including Jimi Jamison's Survivor "Empires")
1
1%
The Present Survivor era
4
5%
 
Total votes : 86

Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:12 pm

I haven't stopped by to make fun of Sullivan's lack of productivity in a while. Just thought I'd add my asinine two cents. :lol:
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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:47 pm

survivorfan2005 wrote:
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survivorfan2005 wrote:Hey guys, just wanted to help clean this board up. So, instead of everyone creating new threads about all the debate about FS, whos the best singer, etc... Please, keep all debates in this thread so it'll help the clutter and please guys be respectful we all have different opinions. Let us not be like the Journey forum so help me out here. It's easier to keep track of who's bashing who here..


I didn't realize you were the new moderator in here.


lol, sorry Andrew, no I'm just a concerned board member and just doing my part as a member to help all the hard workers such as yourself out a little bit.


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Postby survivorfan2005 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:11 pm

:D How about this one: Fire Makes Steel the album, should it be redone or remastered and which songs off that album are your favorites?
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Postby MarcelJordan » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:42 pm

7 Wishes wrote:I haven't stopped by to make fun of Sullivan's lack of productivity in a while. Just thought I'd add my asinine two cents. :lol:


Oh, he's productive in his own way :P

Now, if I had some new bootlegs on some of the latter shows, I love to hear First Night played recently. :D
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Postby Eyeof » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:24 pm

I would not really care to her McCauley on a Fire Makes Steel album at all.

Now if they wanted to clean up and put out a truly mastered one, with the vocals Dave laid down...hell yeah...
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Postby IngoK » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:33 pm

Eyeof wrote:I would not really care to her McCauley on a Fire Makes Steel album at all.

Now if they wanted to clean up and put out a truly mastered one, with the vocals Dave laid down...hell yeah...


Agree to that point. Remaster the old Demo Tape and release something new with Robin. But both things will not happen...
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Postby Slander » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:51 am

IngoK wrote:
Eyeof wrote:I would not really care to her McCauley on a Fire Makes Steel album at all.

Now if they wanted to clean up and put out a truly mastered one, with the vocals Dave laid down...hell yeah...


Agree to that point. Remaster the old Demo Tape and release something new with Robin. But both things will not happen...


My understanding is that FMS will never see the light of day and that's a damn shame. Keeping fingers crossed on something new with Robin.
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Postby Slander » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:52 am

MarcelJordan wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:I haven't stopped by to make fun of Sullivan's lack of productivity in a while. Just thought I'd add my asinine two cents. :lol:


Oh, he's productive in his own way :P

Now, if I had some new bootlegs on some of the latter shows, I love to hear First Night played recently. :D


The only boot I know of Robin is the Kansas City one from 2006. It's okay but the backing vocals don't sound great.
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Postby survivorfan2005 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:37 am

well, there is that "studio" version of Robin on some songs.. what about those? I thought those were pretty good.
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Postby Slander » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:45 am

survivorfan2005 wrote:well, there is that "studio" version of Robin on some songs.. what about those? I thought those were pretty good.


I really liked Robin's version of Fire Makes Steel. He really is great doing it live. Ya know it's interesting. I think Robin is closer to Dave when he does songs your thought. Maybe it's just the grittiness in their voices. A little more street. I think JJ sounds better on songs like Is This Love and Search is Over.
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Postby Eyeof » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:40 pm

I have the KC boot...it's not bad in places and I like the songs they picked to sing...the background vocals are AWFUL and pretty much ruin the boot...Robin is really weak on Tiger in the boot, but I know that was early....

I have a DVD and CD boot from Orlando in 2006....It's okay as well...short set....bands sounds good...Honestly his vocal style just doesn't do much for me with Survivor....who knows...

And then there are the three over dubs that are floating around...they do sound better, but it just doesn't bring anything new for me personally....
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:44 pm

Eyeof wrote:I have the KC boot ;;;the background vocals are AWFUL and pretty much ruin the boot...


They really do damn near wreck the boot.
And I like Frankie's singing but his mic was WAY too loud.
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Postby Eyeof » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:46 pm

yeah, that is totally confusing....i dont' know if it is where the person recording it was standing or what? Frankie does great background stuff, so something is not right with it....
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Postby Vladan » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:05 pm

Middle to late 80's obviously...

Look at the poll ;)
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Postby Philip » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:23 am

7 Wishes wrote:
BIGDOG1 wrote:McCauley is a great singer.he did a great job on Eye on dancin' w/ the stars.Wait for the new disc then judge. 8)


He sounded like shit. He can't handle Survivor material.

Says someone who considers Kotipelto as one of rocks best singers :lol:
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:29 am

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Postby Eyeof » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:41 am

isn't new survivor, kind of old survivor...it's confusing...there is a lot of Survivor...
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I thought since this had not been posted on in two years, I'd say HI!
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Postby Slander » Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:13 pm

Long time Eye OF. I am interested in getting your opininon on Dave's return.
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