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Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby tater1977 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:00 am

Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham
Posted on 9 April, 2018, 08:53 pm by Bob Lefsetz

http://celebrityaccess.com/2018/04/09/t ... uckingham/

It’s about the songs, not the band.

It started with Journey. The voice of the act, Steve Perry, didn’t want to work, he needed an operation, so the rest of the act went on the road without him, with a bunch of faceless singers, doing reasonable business. Then they found a replica of Steve’s voice online, and then business started to increase to the point where they’re playing stadiums this summer, with Def Leppard.

Foreigner not only goes on the road without Lou Gramm, but sans Mick Jones sometimes too.
And then Glenn Frey dies and the Eagles not only reunite, their grosses are bigger than ever!
What’s going on?

When your hits are behind you, it’s all about the money. No one’s got enough. And touring gives purpose to your life. And there’s nowhere you can get that kind of adulation, that hit of adrenaline, other than on stage.
But shouldn’t the audience balk?

They did not when all the fifties acts toured with a group of faceless performers not in the original incarnation.
It’s an oldies phenomenon, after the thrill is gone, the cult of personality, the adoration, the laughter and the tears, all that is left is the songs and the memories. And it turns out many can’t get enough of them.

Ergo the tribute acts. Doing a bang-up imitation of Led Zeppelin and so many more.

As long as it sounds close enough to what once was, and it includes some patina of originality, people are in. After all, the Mac toured without Christine McVie for years and played arenas. They’ve proven in the past the act has a hard time surviving without Stevie Nicks, but if god forbid she passed and Grace Potter took her spot, or Lorde…

Queen tours with Adam Lambert.

We could speculate on the cause of this. Then again, it’s been Lindsey’s band from day one, and he’s been irascible. Of course, of course, it was Fleetwood and McVie’s band, but they could play theatres without Lindsey and Stevie and therefore they let Lindsey control the act. And when the noose gets too tight and there are alternatives…

The truth is these acts are riddled with personality problems, all that bonds the members is the music. Would you want to hang forever with your high school buddies? That’s what it’s like. Furthermore, artists are uncompromised, it’s their edges that made them successful, and they don’t know how to trim them. You’d tell them just to get along, but then again, you could never be in the act.

And the act does include Lindsey’s soloing. But the seventies are over, the audience doesn’t want to hear virtuosos extend, they just want the songs, they just want to nod their heads and sing along. And Lindsey’s vocals have oftentimes been…
Rough.

So now you’ve got Mike Campbell, whose ability rivals Lindsey’s, although his sound is different, and Neil Finn comes back from the dead, in this case New Zealand, to demonstrate the chops which never fully got the praise they deserved.

And if you don’t think Vince Gill brought the Eagles to new heights…
You haven’t seen them.

This news would have been revolutionary in the seventies, even the eighties, but today it’s another blip on the radar screen. Fleetwood Mac has long since surrendered the zeitgeist to the younger generation. Hell, the McVie/Buckingham album got no traction. That’s what it’s like being an aged act doing new music in today’s cacophonous world.

So now YOU’RE Fleetwood Mac. When you go to the show and sing along with your head in the air it’s about you, not the people on stage. You’re long in the tooth, remembering when, feeling good for the moment, that’s what you pays your money for and if you want to see these people in the flesh, go soon, because they’re not gonna be around much longer.

But the songs remain the same.
Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby perryfan61 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:54 am

Just about sums it up. Many don't know and don't care who the original band members were; as long as the music sounds like they remember, that's all that matters.

I guess I'm just as guilty.

I would love to see the Eagles again, even with Glenn gone. And Bon Jovi, even without Richie, although he will join the band for the RRHOF induction. And I did go see Journey, even without SP,... but I think once was enough.
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby tater1977 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:54 am

Saw Journey w/ SP, too many times to count.
Saw Journey back in 2011, free tickets.
Will see them again 2018, part of the package of
class reunion tickets.
Want to see Smitty on drums again and
see Def Lep again. :lol:
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby scarab » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:22 am

so who is gonna sing the buckingham songs? last guy was terrible.
but now that they have mcvie back, maybe they will do only a few.
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby tj » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:56 am

tater1977 wrote:Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham
Posted on 9 April, 2018, 08:53 pm by Bob Lefsetz

http://celebrityaccess.com/2018/04/09/t ... uckingham/

It’s about the songs, not the band.

It started with Journey. The voice of the act, Steve Perry, didn’t want to work, he needed an operation, so the rest of the act went on the road without him, with a bunch of faceless singers, doing reasonable business. Then they found a replica of Steve’s voice online, and then business started to increase to the point where they’re playing stadiums this summer, with Def Leppard.

Foreigner not only goes on the road without Lou Gramm, but sans Mick Jones sometimes too.
And then Glenn Frey dies and the Eagles not only reunite, their grosses are bigger than ever!
What’s going on?

When your hits are behind you, it’s all about the money. No one’s got enough. And touring gives purpose to your life. And there’s nowhere you can get that kind of adulation, that hit of adrenaline, other than on stage.
But shouldn’t the audience balk?

They did not when all the fifties acts toured with a group of faceless performers not in the original incarnation.
It’s an oldies phenomenon, after the thrill is gone, the cult of personality, the adoration, the laughter and the tears, all that is left is the songs and the memories. And it turns out many can’t get enough of them.

Ergo the tribute acts. Doing a bang-up imitation of Led Zeppelin and so many more.

As long as it sounds close enough to what once was, and it includes some patina of originality, people are in. After all, the Mac toured without Christine McVie for years and played arenas. They’ve proven in the past the act has a hard time surviving without Stevie Nicks, but if god forbid she passed and Grace Potter took her spot, or Lorde…

Queen tours with Adam Lambert.

We could speculate on the cause of this. Then again, it’s been Lindsey’s band from day one, and he’s been irascible. Of course, of course, it was Fleetwood and McVie’s band, but they could play theatres without Lindsey and Stevie and therefore they let Lindsey control the act. And when the noose gets too tight and there are alternatives…

The truth is these acts are riddled with personality problems, all that bonds the members is the music. Would you want to hang forever with your high school buddies? That’s what it’s like. Furthermore, artists are uncompromised, it’s their edges that made them successful, and they don’t know how to trim them. You’d tell them just to get along, but then again, you could never be in the act.

And the act does include Lindsey’s soloing. But the seventies are over, the audience doesn’t want to hear virtuosos extend, they just want the songs, they just want to nod their heads and sing along. And Lindsey’s vocals have oftentimes been…
Rough.

So now you’ve got Mike Campbell, whose ability rivals Lindsey’s, although his sound is different, and Neil Finn comes back from the dead, in this case New Zealand, to demonstrate the chops which never fully got the praise they deserved.

And if you don’t think Vince Gill brought the Eagles to new heights…
You haven’t seen them.

This news would have been revolutionary in the seventies, even the eighties, but today it’s another blip on the radar screen. Fleetwood Mac has long since surrendered the zeitgeist to the younger generation. Hell, the McVie/Buckingham album got no traction. That’s what it’s like being an aged act doing new music in today’s cacophonous world.

So now YOU’RE Fleetwood Mac. When you go to the show and sing along with your head in the air it’s about you, not the people on stage. You’re long in the tooth, remembering when, feeling good for the moment, that’s what you pays your money for and if you want to see these people in the flesh, go soon, because they’re not gonna be around much longer.

But the songs remain the same.


It didn't start with Journey. The Lawrence Welk Orchestra was still going after Welk couldn't continue. Acts from every genre have been dealing with it for decades.
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby JourneyHard » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:49 am

According to this, somebody needs to tell Neal that the people at the Journey concert don't want his long guitar solos. They want the hits. So, Journey needs to power through their 20 biggest hits according to the charts!

TOP HITS Set List
1. Separate Ways
2. Only The Young
3. Girl Can't Help It
4. After The Fall
5. Good Morning Girl/Stay Awhile
6. Still They Ride
7. Suzanne
8. Walks Like A Lady
9. Open Arms
10. Faithfully
11. Who's Cryin' Now
12. When You Love A Woman
13. Send Her My Love
14. I'll Be Alright Without You
15. Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin
16. Party's Over
Encores:
17. Be Good To Yourself
18. Wheel In The Sky
19. Don't Stop Believin'
20. Any Way You Want It

This should be the set list if you listen to this article. The fans want more songs and no long solos.
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby tj » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:49 pm

I was flipping through channels last night and stopped for a couple of minutes to see PBS showing a Fleetwood Mac concert with Lindsey Buckingham as a part of their fundraising programming. I thought it was odd since he is not in the band anymore.
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:12 am

tater1977 wrote:It started with Journey. The voice of the act, Steve Perry, didn’t want to work, he needed an operation, so the rest of the act went on the road without him, with a bunch of faceless singers, doing reasonable business. Then they found a replica of Steve’s voice online, and then business started to increase to the point where they’re playing stadiums this summer, with Def Leppard.



Umm, Journey was playing co-headlining dates in stadiums before they found Arnel.
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby Pacfanweb » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:46 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
tater1977 wrote:It started with Journey. The voice of the act, Steve Perry, didn’t want to work, he needed an operation, so the rest of the act went on the road without him, with a bunch of faceless singers, doing reasonable business. Then they found a replica of Steve’s voice online, and then business started to increase to the point where they’re playing stadiums this summer, with Def Leppard.



Umm, Journey was playing co-headlining dates in stadiums before they found Arnel.


When? In the mid-80's?

Journey never toured stadiums, but they certainly could do some dates at one here and there. They are an arena (and now amphitheater) act. They might hit a few stadiums with Def this year, but that's not a "stadium tour". The Rolling Stones do stadium tours. Very few acts in the world do that, and Journey never was at that level.

It IS very impressive to do what they ARE doing now, regardless of venue size, however.
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Re: Op-Ed: The Exit Of Lindsey Buckingham

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:32 pm

Pacfanweb wrote:When? In the mid-80's?

Journey never toured stadiums, but they certainly could do some dates at one here and there. They are an arena (and now amphitheater) act. They might hit a few stadiums with Def this year, but that's not a "stadium tour". The Rolling Stones do stadium tours. Very few acts in the world do that, and Journey never was at that level.

It IS very impressive to do what they ARE doing now, regardless of venue size, however.


You should take that up with the writer of the article.
My point is, the band toured the same venues now as they did prior to finding Arnel.
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