Jeremy..."Suzanne" on youtube

[Enigma869]

I'll buy that Niggy, same kinda thing surely, good example.
In that case though I think Hagar sounded like Roth.
Here Sir Soto sounds like himself not Perry.
Just my wee opinion

Hagar sounded like Roth??? Really??? WOW! I never thought anyone could listen to those two guys and come away thinking they sounded anything alike. I think the only thing that Hagar in Roth ever had in common was they were both the lead singer of Van Halen, at one point in their lives! I always thought Hagar was a MUCH better vocalist than Roth. Roth was never much of a singer. It was always all about the show for Dave and doing karate kicks. The music was just something thrown into the mix!

John from Boston

[Deb]

I always thought Hagar was a MUCH better vocalist than Roth. Roth was never much of a singer. It was always all about the show for Dave and doing karate kicks. The music was just something thrown into the mix!

John from Boston

I do like alot of the old VH, but totally agree on your comment regarding Sammy and Dave.

[Moon Beam]

I'll buy that Niggy, same kinda thing surely, good example.
In that case though I think Hagar sounded like Roth.
Here Sir Soto sounds like himself not Perry.
Just my wee opinion

Hagar sounded like Roth??? Really??? WOW! I never thought anyone could listen to those two guys and come away thinking they sounded anything alike. I think the only thing that Hagar in Roth ever had in common was they were both the lead singer of Van Halen, at one point in their lives! I always thought Hagar was a MUCH better vocalist than Roth. Roth was never much of a singer. It was always all about the show for Dave and doing karate kicks. The music was just something thrown into the mix!

John from Boston

Yup, to me they sound very similar

[conversationpc]

Hagar sounded like Roth??? Really??? WOW! I never thought anyone could listen to those two guys and come away thinking they sounded anything alike. I think the only thing that Hagar in Roth ever had in common was they were both the lead singer of Van Halen, at one point in their lives! I always thought Hagar was a MUCH better vocalist than Roth. Roth was never much of a singer. It was always all about the show for Dave and doing karate kicks. The music was just something thrown into the mix!

John from Boston

Yup, to me they sound very similar

Are you kidding??? If it weren't for the fact that you're a big Journey fan, I'd recommend having your hearing checked.

[Red13JoePa]

Yea beam, maybe Hagar and Cherone?

[NealIsGod]

Yup, to me they sound very similar

You are the only person I have ever heard who thinks so.

[conversationpc]

Yea beam, maybe Hagar and Cherone?

Cherone definitely sounded a lot log hagar on that horrible "Van Halen III" album. There were two or three good tunes and a couple of mediocre ones. The others were flat out horrible.

[Red13JoePa]

Yea beam, maybe Hagar and Cherone?

Cherone definitely sounded a lot log hagar on that horrible "Van Halen III" album. There were two or three good tunes and a couple of mediocre ones. The others were flat out horrible.

III to me is as misunderstood as ROR. maybe my 3rd favorite VH but we're getting way off topic.

[dcvader]

Jeff raises a valid point of Augeri being accused of mimicing simply because he had the "misfortune" of having a sort of Perryesque tone and range. But to the distinguishing ear a lot of differences were apparent. He probably COULDN'T sound that much different than SP to some peeps....

JSS is a different kind of singer and I like that he picks and chooses the oportune spots (yes, opionion based only on a bunch of boots to this point) to roll the Perryisms out.

Yeah, I think it's like Hagar joining VH. He can cover the old stuff, but brings an exciting new quality to the band. The future is bright.

I think your right on with this one.

[Moon Beam]

You guys finished stoning me now?

[NealIsGod]

You guys finished stoning me now?

I don't know, do you feel sufficiently stoned?

[conversationpc]

You guys finished stoning me now?

Yes, but now you must be clubbed to death.

[Deb]

There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?

Exactly!! Best of both worlds!!

[Moon Beam]

Ahh, thanks I needed that

[ArnelRox]

• Thanks, JR for your support, glad you like GMG! We rarely get to play that one, but it's one of my favorites too

• Frontiers has never tuned down any songs, they have always been performed in their original key.

I'm sorry Jeremey. I must have misunderstood you. I remember u saying something about tuning down songs & how difficult it was as the band hears them differently. My apologies!

BTW, I heard ur version of I Stand Alone & it's simply magnificent too. I have shivers up & down my spine hearing u hit those notes! There's another one I would love to hear live if I ever get to see you perform!

[ArnelRox]

No, the 'attack' as you so boadly call it was in regard to the 'being blown off the stage' bit...it's obvious some want the 'soundalike/karaoke' idea of Journey continuing, but what people who make these posts don't realize is I could do Perry to a tee if I wanted to....did I spend 22 years making a staple for myself as a singer/writer/artist to end up a soundalike? Think about the answer while I attempt to convince you 'NO'.

On the other hand, I do try to uphold the Perry/Journey sound, meaning hitting some of the grammar & articulation that comes very easy in singing these songs (because singing them otherwise doesn't sound 'right' to me) but if I did a mere impersonation, I'd be nothing more than what SA was accused of for so many years, which I personally think he sounds like Perry as much as Neal does! SA had his own thing that he put into the Journey sound, it was his natural tone & range that fooled some into thinking he was identical to SP. There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?

I love this forum & I think the majority of people here are really cool. But every once in a while, I'm embarassed that Jeff reads some of the things said here. This is one of those moments.

What many seem to forget is that being lead singer of Journey isn't an easy role for anyone to step into & I don't think it's something someone does just for a pay check...particularly not an already established singer/musician w/a career. It takes a lot of guts. When I saw Jeff live, he made a comment to the effect of it not being easy to step into the shoes of the 2 Steves that came before him. It really touched me when he said that because it's so true. While I can't speak for him, I would imagine making the decision to wear those shoes was not an easy one. I'm very glad he's not doing an impersonation & putting his own spin on things. It's just the right balance of respect for the sound & being his own singer IMHO.

[ddregs]

Back to thread reading after the usual rest of a few days, and I still keep on reading Journey are out doing their karaoke thing.
I cannot really understand this kind of comment.
First of all, Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain (not to mention Ross Valory, who I think didn't contribute as much to the compositions) are as entitled as much as Steve Perry to the Journey catalogue. I don't really see Journey as a Steve Perry creature. And I am one of the guys who didn't love ROR as much as their previous records, I still keep thinking it rates much below their previous material (and we all know ROR is more a Steve Perry son than a Journey)
Second, the guys have the classic Journey sound down to a tee. They sound so much like Journey because they are Journey.
Deen Castronovo is a hell of a drummer, and most of all, he's got an awesome voice with an high pitch tone. He really makes backing vocals fly. Much better than the "original lineup".
I won't discuss the classic Steve perry debate because it got so old I can't stand it no more. Here we are, you all guys have the opportunity to enjoy Journey playing yuor favorite songs again, with a super vocalist (please let me know if I'm wrong telling JSS is one of the 10 best vocalist out there at the moment, for voice/versatility and showmanship) and you are here crying because Steve Perry is no longer and you want him to be back.
Well, I'd much prefer to keep the current lineup and have the opportunity to see them live, maybe in Europe, someday soon. And please, not that far from Italy.

PS: reality check: Steve Perry has done 3 records and just a little other songs in 20 years. This means I could have the opportunity to hear a new Journey record in an average 6,5 years this way. No please....

[Blueskies]

Forget the past already, people! SP is not coming back, at least not with Journey! There is a new Journey now with JSS!

[Enigma869]

First of all, Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain (not to mention Ross Valory, who I think didn't contribute as much to the compositions) are as entitled as much as Steve Perry to the Journey catalogue.

Clearly, these guys are "entitled" as you put it. That said, they are only "entitled" because Perry agreed and still gets his share of the Journey pie. I agree with you 100% that Perry in Journey will NEVER happen again, and I accepted that many, many years ago. I honestly don't think Perry has any interest in making music any longer (I wouldn't mind being wrong about this). Having said all that, Perry wrote or co-wrote most of Journey's catalogue of music, so I think his "hand" is in this a bit more than you would care to acknowledge! The divorce may "be final", as has been said, ad nauseum, over the years, but those songs will FOREVER connect these musicians, regardless of who happens to be singing them at a given time!

John from Boston

[ddregs]

First of all, Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain (not to mention Ross Valory, who I think didn't contribute as much to the compositions) are as entitled as much as Steve Perry to the Journey catalogue.

Clearly, these guys are "entitled" as you put it. That said, they are only "entitled" because Perry agreed and still gets his share of the Journey pie. I agree with you 100% that Perry in Journey will NEVER happen again, and I accepted that many, many years ago. I honestly don't think Perry has any interest in making music any longer (I wouldn't mind being wrong about this). Having said all that, Perry wrote or co-wrote most of Journey's catalogue of music, so I think his "hand" is in this a bit more than you would care to acknowledge! The divorce may "be final", as has been said, ad nauseum, over the years, but those songs will FOREVER connect these musicians, regardless of who happens to be singing them at a given time!

John from Boston

Agree with your post John. I still think it's time to move on, now and forever, from this Perry comedy or tragedy.
Journey had a difficult, quite impossible task to do, and I think they finally found their way. JSS is a good composer, for instance I would really like to hear a new Journey record with him. Believe in Me from Lost in Translation shows how much hand had Neal Schon in Journey compositions, much more than we would all think. His first solo record, Late Night, has much better compositions than ROR , melodies that are written in the Journey hemisphere. I love that record, it's really awesome. Rain's Comin' Down is one of my fav songs...

[Deb]

Forget the past already, people! SP is not coming back, at least not with Journey! There is a new Journey now with JSS!

Nothing pisses me off more than that statement. While I agree Perry won't be fronting Journey again and look forward to a JSS fronted Journey. Even JSS respects the Perry-fronted Journey, so was that statement directed at him too? I can f***in enjoy both the past and present Journey thank you very much!

[Deb]

Agree with your post John. I still think it's time to move on, now and forever, from this Perry comedy or tragedy.
Journey had a difficult, quite impossible task to do, and I think they finally found their way. JSS is a good composer, for instance I would really like to hear a new Journey record with him. Believe in Me from Lost in Translation shows how much hand had Neal Schon in Journey compositions, much more than we would all think. His first solo record, Late Night, has much better compositions than ROR , melodies that are written in the Journey hemisphere. I love that record, it's really awesome. Rain's Comin' Down is one of my fav songs...

Would love to hear more like 'Believe in Me' from these guys.

[Blueskies]

Forget the past already, people! SP is not coming back, at least not with Journey! There is a new Journey now with JSS!

Nothing pisses me off more than that statement. While I agree Perry won't be fronting Journey again and look forward to a JSS fronted Journey. Even JSS respects the Perry-fronted Journey, so was that statement directed at him too? I can f***in enjoy both the past and present Journey thank you very much!

Guess I should have worded it differently. Your right, we should not forget the past and I never will. Steve Perry was the best and I still hope he sing's again. What I'm saying is JSS is now in the pilot seat, and he's doing a great job! I'm looking forward and hoping JSS and the guy's will be coming out with something new!

[ArnelRox]

Forget the past already, people! SP is not coming back, at least not with Journey! There is a new Journey now with JSS!

Nothing pisses me off more than that statement. While I agree Perry won't be fronting Journey again and look forward to a JSS fronted Journey. Even JSS respects the Perry-fronted Journey, so was that statement directed at him too? I can f***in enjoy both the past and present Journey thank you very much!

I'm with u strungout. U can't just forget the past & Perry. If u forget the past, u have to forget all about Journey at all & consider them some new band that just came out today. Even then, u can't forget the past because Neal, Jon & Ross are there & u end up talking about what they did in the past. It makes no sense. Heck people still talk about the very far past & the fact that Neal was w/Santana & Jon was with The Babys.

A lot of people talk about a Steve Perry/Journey "divorce". Well if 2 people get divorced & they have kids, even if the kids go live w/the mom & she gets remarried, their dad is still their dad. My dad died & my mom remarried but my dad will always be my dad.

[Blueskies]

Forget the past already, people! SP is not coming back, at least not with Journey! There is a new Journey now with JSS!

Nothing pisses me off more than that statement. While I agree Perry won't be fronting Journey again and look forward to a JSS fronted Journey. Even JSS respects the Perry-fronted Journey, so was that statement directed at him too? I can f***in enjoy both the past and present Journey thank you very much!

I'm with u strungout. U can't just forget the past & Perry. If u forget the past, u have to forget all about Journey at all & consider them some new band that just came out today. Even then, u can't forget the past because Neal, Jon & Ross are there & u end up talking about what they did in the past. It makes no sense. Heck people still talk about the very far past & the fact that Neal was w/Santana & Jon was with The Babys.

A lot of people talk about a Steve Perry/Journey "divorce". Well if 2 people get divorced & they have kids, even if the kids go live w/the mom & she gets remarried, their dad is still their dad. My dad died & my mom remarried but my dad will always be my dad.

I absolutely agree with you both on what you are saying. Like I said before you cannot and should not forget SP. ( my name was thevoicelover, what doe's that say? ) but SP is not coming back to Journey and I don't want him to! I think he would be better off doing his own thing. So now we should move forward with JSS at the helm and see where it take's us! Might be a rockin' new sound!

[ArnelRox]

I absolutely agree with you both on what you are saying. Like I said before you cannot and should not forget SP. ( my name was thevoicelover, what doe's that say? ) but SP is not coming back to Journey and I don't want him to! I think he would be better off doing his own thing. So now we should move forward with JSS at the helm and see where it take's us! Might be a rockin' new sound!

I'm all for it with Jeff. I can't wait till 11/7 actually to see them again. I was thinking about that last nite at the H&O concert...that I'd be sitting in the same venue for Journey in about a month. Woo hoo (sorry Dean couldn't help it...there's a little BT in all of us!) I love Jeff & I'm thrilled he's up there doing this "oh-so-difficult" gig. But just like my dad will always be my dad even if my mom married another dozen men before she dies, Perry will always be the "dad" of Journey music for me. All that being said, I hope Jeff fathers a few really cool "stepkids" (songs) w/Journey. (My mom is too old for that.)

[Deb]

Forget the past already, people! SP is not coming back, at least not with Journey! There is a new Journey now with JSS!

Nothing pisses me off more than that statement. While I agree Perry won't be fronting Journey again and look forward to a JSS fronted Journey. Even JSS respects the Perry-fronted Journey, so was that statement directed at him too? I can f***in enjoy both the past and present Journey thank you very much!

Guess I should have worded it differently. Your right, we should not forget the past and I never will. Steve Perry was the best and I still hope he sing's again. What I'm saying is JSS is now in the pilot seat, and he's doing a great job! I'm looking forward and hoping JSS and the guy's will be coming out with something new!

Sorry TVL, I didn't mean to jump down your throat, just got real sick of hearing the "living in the past" "move on" cheerleading BS back on BT. I know of alot of Perry fans that are giving Journey another look/listen recently and liking what JSS is bringing to the band.........and nothing is going to alienate those fans quicker than saying shit like that. While preferring one, it IS possible to enjoy both.

[ArnelRox]

While preferring one, it IS possible to enjoy both.

After reading what Jeff wrote a few days ago about a duet on a song or two, I thought the ultimate would be to see both on stage at the same time (hence my new avatar--making it happen in my little fantasy world). Yeah, I know it will never happen in real life. But I can keep hoping can't I? What I wouldn't pay for that concert.

[Deb]

But just like my dad will always be my dad even if my mom married another dozen men before she dies, Perry will always be the "dad" of Journey music for me. All that being said, I hope Jeff fathers a few really cool "stepkids" (songs) w/Journey.

Love that analogy.

[Blueskies]

I absolutely agree with you both on what you are saying. Like I said before you cannot and should not forget SP. ( my name was thevoicelover, what doe's that say? ) but SP is not coming back to Journey and I don't want him to! I think he would be better off doing his own thing. So now we should move forward with JSS at the helm and see where it take's us! Might be a rockin' new sound!

I'm all for it with Jeff. I can't wait till 11/7 actually to see them again. I was thinking about that last nite at the H&O concert...that I'd be sitting in the same venue for Journey in about a month. Woo hoo (sorry Dean couldn't help it...there's a little BT in all of us!) I love Jeff & I'm thrilled he's up there doing this "oh-so-difficult" gig. But just like my dad will always be my dad even if my mom married another dozen men before she dies, Perry will always be the "dad" of Journey music for me. All that being said, I hope Jeff fathers a few really cool "stepkids" (songs) w/Journey. (My mom is too old for that.)

I saw them when JSS first started and did not give him rave review's here but I kept an open mind and he quickly won me over. I hope other's will give him the same chance. I hope your mom is happy with your stepdad and doesn't have to go through a "dozen" men! I hope you like your stepdad, too.