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Postby Socratic Methodist » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:44 am

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Socratic Methodist wrote:I guess this is time where you garner support, and wait for people to say nice things about you...

I wonder if you can get your daily quota of ego-stroking before dinner?


Proving again how little you know about me. I've not asked a solitary soul for "support" in this thing in which YOU started addressing ME and then totally overreacted to my question "6 words for you. So what about KiJ ana carter?" Andrew is more than welcome to post the existing contents of ANY pms of mine asking someone here to give me a tesimonial.

What you're seeing instead is other people (even those like Dave CT and TNC who I've had donnybrooks with) weighing in with opinions of me of stictly their own volition. these people have observed my posts long enough to understand what has happened here. Ego? Could give a shit less.



Right, how little I know about you....and that works BOTH ways. Answer me why you took such offense to a 'wink'?

Was it because I am new here? Was I not supposed to 'talk' to you? I inserted a little playful jab at a former Penn State player, and you responded rather assholish.

And the wink was to let you know that I was joking.....but YOU took it as a question of your manhood.

So if you want to know where this all started from, there you go.

The problem is EVERYONE here takes things personally. This band has everyone so wound up that nothing can be stated without half the board chiming in - in a contrarian manner.

If someone mentions Perry- certain posters are sure to start shit...If someone mentions SA era stuff - others will chime in and start shit.

I guess the format here IS better than BT, The Cooler.....etc....but I just don't get all the petty, insulting behavior that goes on here....

While this band may have been the soundtrack to our lives, and huge parts ever since...and that reason shouldn't be an excuse to let this forum get to the point where it is at....and me being 'new' shouldn't exclude me from having legitimate 'takes' on the subject matter here.

I am not a drama-queen, but I will proffer an apology to anyone who felt offended by my various comments about said uproar......

And you can stick your. 'if you don't llike it, leave' retorts.... :wink:

Disclaimer: :wink: inserted to show that I am JOKING.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:50 am

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ohsherrie wrote:Do you guys think you could maybe just start over and get to know each other a little better?


What's not to know of me?
this dude gave his rendition of my Epersonality dna profile to the board. He's "calls em like he sees em (more fantasy league E-cliche points, I guess)."

he's judge and jury and there is not a single thing I can tell him about me that he does not already know.

Just ask him.


Thing is 13, he has no way of knowing that he's misread you. I'm just saying, he formed his impression based on a war of words between you, me and Matt and doesn't know that we also agree on a lot things and have as many calm rational discussions as we do disputes.

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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:53 am

13, if AngieKay and I can get along now, there is hope for you and SocMeth. :lol:
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Postby Socratic Methodist » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:55 am

ohsherrie wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Do you guys think you could maybe just start over and get to know each other a little better?


What's not to know of me?
this dude gave his rendition of my Epersonality dna profile to the board. He's "calls em like he sees em (more fantasy league E-cliche points, I guess)."

he's judge and jury and there is not a single thing I can tell him about me that he does not already know.

Just ask him.


Thing is 13, he has no way of knowing that he's misread you. I'm just saying, he formed his impression based on a war of words between you, me and Matt and doesn't know that we also agree on a lot things and have as many calm rational discussions as we do disputes.

But if you guys want to keep arguing over a mistake, far be it from me to try and mediate. Image


Hi there..... :)

I based my impression after his response to MY post...then went back through his various quips, retorts, and insults and that just cemented it.

You 'know' him better than I, obviously......

It is squashed as far as I'm concerned....I just don't have time for that kind of shit.

and in the future, if you see double i, or double o words in my posts....it is just the way I type....happens all the time. Sometiimes I catch them, sometimes not.... :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:00 am

Socratic Methodist wrote:Answer me why you took such offense to a 'wink'?



I didn't, I made a sarcastic little throwaway lead balloon "i'm not gay" joke b/c you threw the wink on there.

You're the one who after that split the atom trying to play "The Profiler" on me.

To the board, and the billpayer on the bandwith: I apologize. This has got to be an excercise in complete tedium watching me set this nitwit right.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:17 am

Socratic Methodist wrote:Hi there..... :)

I based my impression after his response to MY post...then went back through his various quips, retorts, and insults and that just cemented it.

You 'know' him better than I, obviously......

It is squashed as far as I'm concerned....I just don't have time for that kind of shit.

and in the future, if you see double i, or double o words in my posts....it is just the way I type....happens all the time. Sometiimes I catch them, sometimes not.... :lol:


He's an OK guy Socrates and I hope y'all can get past this so he'll see that you are too.

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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:22 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Socratic Methodist wrote:Answer me why you took such offense to a 'wink'?



I didn't, I made a sarcastic little throwaway led balloon "i'm not gay" joke b/c you threw the wink on there.

You're the one who after that split the atom trying to play "The Profiler" on me.

To the board, and the billpayer on the bandwith: I apologize. This has got to be an excercise in complete tedium watching me set this nitwit right.


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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:28 am

Red13JoePa wrote:he's judge and jury and there is not a single thing I can tell him about me that he does not already know.


That sounds EXACTLY like what u did to me. For some unknown reason u became judge & jury of me. U decided u knew everything about me. U used that opportunity to abuse me every chance u got. Even when others asked u to lay off me u continued. Today u call me an overwrought undermedicated drama queen for example. Pot, kettle, black.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:38 am

JourneyFuxSingers wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:he's judge and jury and there is not a single thing I can tell him about me that he does not already know.


That sounds EXACTLY like what u did to me. For some unknown reason u became judge & jury of me. U decided u knew everything about me. U used that opportunity to abuse me every chance u got. Even when others asked u to lay off me u continued. Today u call me an overwrought undermedicated drama queen for example. Pot, kettle, black.


Is it the mental illness that makes you skip the "Y" and the "O" keys in your posts?
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:43 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
JourneyFuxSingers wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:he's judge and jury and there is not a single thing I can tell him about me that he does not already know.


That sounds EXACTLY like what u did to me. For some unknown reason u became judge & jury of me. U decided u knew everything about me. U used that opportunity to abuse me every chance u got. Even when others asked u to lay off me u continued. Today u call me an overwrought undermedicated drama queen for example. Pot, kettle, black.


Is it the mental illness that makes you the "Y" and the "O" keys in your posts?


Finally, this thread is on the right course. It was getting too mushy there for a while.
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Postby Moon Beam » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:49 am

Maybe I need to go back and try to master the search feature here
but I have seen an uproar in your post style since you put screaming JoePa av up.
Coincidence, maybe but I sure am curious as to why Suzy gets your feathers fluffed so.

I like both your board posting styles and that's why I say this.
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:50 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
JourneyFuxSingers wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:he's judge and jury and there is not a single thing I can tell him about me that he does not already know.


That sounds EXACTLY like what u did to me. For some unknown reason u became judge & jury of me. U decided u knew everything about me. U used that opportunity to abuse me every chance u got. Even when others asked u to lay off me u continued. Today u call me an overwrought undermedicated drama queen for example. Pot, kettle, black.


Is it the mental illness that makes you the "Y" and the "O" keys in your posts?


That question makes NO sense. I'm the Y & O keys in my posts? Huh?

See, here we go again. Now I'm mentally ill, a few minutes ago I'm an overwrought undermedicated (if u only knew all the meds I'm on) drama queen. This kind of thing makes this guy respected here? Is that what u people respect?

Red, is there anything else u would like to attribute to me while ur at it? Go ahead have at it. I'll only be here for a few minutes more. Show everyone just what an ass u really are.
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:58 am

Moon Beam wrote:I sure am curious as to why Suzy gets your feathers fluffed so.


Me too Moonie. W/the exception of Macca when he's on a drunk rampage, I don't appear to have other enemies here. I even get along w/the wigglers & have had great discussions w/some of them. Niggy "broke me in" when I first got here, then we became pals. Deano & I never had a problem in public. AR & I were friends, then had a misunderstanding about something "loon-ish" but we're pals again now. What makes Red13 the lone MR GOON to go after me & why can he never let it go? I hope he actually decides to tell us. But I somehow doubt it. That would spoil his fun being the bully.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:59 am

JourneyFuxSingers wrote:That question makes NO sense. I'm the Y & O keys in my posts? Huh?

See, here we go again. Now I'm mentally ill, a few minutes ago I'm an overwrought undermedicated (if u only knew all the meds I'm on) drama queen. This kind of thing makes this guy respected here? Is that what u people respect?

Red, is there anything else u would like to attribute to me while ur at it? Go ahead have at it. I'll only be here for a few minutes more. Show everyone just what an ass u really are.


Bah. Typo, I fixed it.

You want me to lay off, but continue addressing me and posting about me. I make a simple little oversexed loon joke one time months back and you light my pm box up with "let's meet and you can say it to my face" messages.
You mention and bring posts of mine from somewhere else here in an attempt to incite a mob against me. you accuse me of having foreknowledge of some illness you supposedly have or had and thereby tacking a malicious hidden meaning behind a post telling you to hold your breath (when to do that is to narcissistically assume i was interested in knowing anything about you.).

And I stalk YOU. Somewhere in that damaged brain I guess that adds up.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:02 am

JourneyFuxSingers wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:I sure am curious as to why Suzy gets your feathers fluffed so.


Me too Moonie. W/the exception of Macca when he's on a drunk rampage, I don't appear to have other enemies here. I even get along w/the wigglers & have had great discussions w/some of them. Niggy "broke me in" when I first got here, then we became pals. Deano & I never had a problem in public. AR & I were friends, then had a misunderstanding about something "loon-ish" but we're pals again now. What makes Red13 the lone MR GOON to go after me & why can he never let it go? I hope he actually decides to tell us. But I somehow doubt it. That would spoil his fun being the bully.



I've gotta interject here. Having talked to Susie a few times, whether it be PM or on the phone, I have to say that she's a wonderful lady. Cheerful, intelligent and funny. I'm not sure about the battle going on between her and 13, but he is WAY off base with his assertions.
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Postby chf34jmac » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:05 am

Anybody besides me see this train wreck getting closed by 9 pm tonight?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:10 am

Good, Juannie.

You go camping with that hyenia then, you hit it off so famously. I'd recommend sleeping with one eye open, though.

"Between" me and him there is NOTHING. It's just that every time the dude comes at me, though, the colors show and then the need arises to spin me as an ogre. there is an extremely angry, confrontational online personality at work there, and unlike the fools who tried to peg ME, I am qualified to pass that expert opinion because I have too often been on the business end of the screamy, histrionic BULLshit.

If you like this thorazine-needy piece of work so much, keep him the hell out of my way in here and out of my pm box.
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:10 am

Let me take each one of these separately.

Red13JoePa wrote:You want me to lay off, but continue addressing me and posting about me.


I dont. That's what u have done to me & continued to do when I came out of lurkdom last week.

I make a simple little oversexed loon joke one time months back


Dont remember that at all. I just remember u stalking me in several threads insulting me every chance u got for NO reason. U just decided u hated me & went off. Deano asked u to lay off me back then. U didnt. U still havent.

and you light my pm box up with "let's meet and you can say it to my face" messages.


Once again that NEVER happened. I have NEVER sent u a PM. Why would I have asked u to meet me anyway? I live in S. FL, I assume u live in PA. That's a bit far away isnt it? Also, I've been very sick since last year & spent months in & out of hospital. Did I ask u to come to the hospital? I certainly wasnt fit to go anywhere myself. Come on. This is ridiculous & obviously meant to just incite a mob against me. Ask anyone who I PM if that sounds like me style. I never say anything like that to anyone. U don't have the PMs anymore, u claim. Trust me, I never sent u one.

You mention and bring posts of mine from somewhere else here in an attempt to incite a mob against me.


Once. I mentioned (but did not bring) ONE post of urs from TJF where u spoke negatively about "those MR people". There was NO attempt to incite a mob against u. However, that is behavior u practice. Dont exaggerate that there were "posts" (plural) when this happened once.

you accuse me of having foreknowledge of some illness you supposedly have or had and thereby tacking a malicious hidden meaning behind a post telling you to hold your breath (when to do that is to narcissistically assume i was interested in knowing anything about you.).


Bullshit. U mocked my illness. Then insulted me again in ur characteristic cold manner.

And I stalk YOU.


Yes in 3 different threads last week alone. U do stalk me in threads. Not literally in real life no. But "stalking" in threads is a term often used here. It's something u do when u decide u dislike someone.

Somewhere in that damaged brain I guess that adds up.


My brain is damaged? What about urs for imagining PMs I sent u asking u to meet me?
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Postby Saint John » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:13 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Good, Juannie.

You go camping with that hyenia then, you hit it off so famously. I'd recommend sleeping with one eye open, though.

"Between" me and him there is NOTHING. It's just that every time the dude comes at me, though, the colors show and then the need arises to spin me as an ogre. there is an extremely angry, confrontational online personality at work there, and unlike the fools who tried to peg ME, I am qualified to pass that expert opinion because I have too often been on the business end of the screamy, histrionic BULLshit.

If you like this thorazine-needy piece of work so much, keep him the hell out of my way in here and out of my pm box.



I'm not following you here 13. What is that quote about? Who is it from? And to whom is it referring to?
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:14 am

Saint John wrote:I've gotta interject here. Having talked to Susie a few times, whether it be PM or on the phone, I have to say that she's a wonderful lady. Cheerful, intelligent and funny. I'm not sure about the battle going on between her and 13, but he is WAY off base with his assertions.


Thanks SJ. Ur a total sweetheart urself & I'm always glad to talk to u.

Unfortunately I'm not sure about the battle either. Red13 started it months ago & wont let it go. U can see that in his response to u. Now I'm on thorazine. :roll:
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Postby Moon Beam » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:15 am

I'll just say I'm the first one to enjoy a good mud sling but when the
folks don't seem to be having fun with it or are serious in their slays
I can't stand it..............this is not about me however and I only hope that
those who don't like the sight of each other can learn to ignore or get along
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:16 am

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Saint John wrote:I've gotta interject here. Having talked to Susie a few times, whether it be PM or on the phone, I have to say that she's a wonderful lady. Cheerful, intelligent and funny. I'm not sure about the battle going on between her and 13, but he is WAY off base with his assertions.


Thanks SJ. Ur a total sweetheart urself & I'm always glad to talk to u.

Unfortunately I'm not sure about the battle either. Red13 started it months ago & wont let it go. U can see that in his response to u. Now I'm on thorazine. :roll:


HE can't let it go? Aren't you the one that jumped into this thread in a discussion that didn't involve you? :lol:
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:17 am

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. How many insults towards me can u fit in one post? Is this a contest?

BTW, hyena is spelled w/out that "i" u tagged in. Just saying seeing as u so like to correct other people's typos.

I've never been in ur inbox, never will. No interest. Nor have I ever been on thorazine. No one else ever sees me in the way u like to paint me. Interesting.

If u would like this to end, u have the power. Just stop ur attacks. (or would that spoil ur fun?)

Red13JoePa wrote:Good, Juannie.

You go camping with that hyenia then, you hit it off so famously. I'd recommend sleeping with one eye open, though.

"Between" me and him there is NOTHING. It's just that every time the dude comes at me, though, the colors show and then the need arises to spin me as an ogre. there is an extremely angry, confrontational online personality at work there, and unlike the fools who tried to peg ME, I am qualified to pass that expert opinion because I have too often been on the business end of the screamy, histrionic BULLshit.

If you like this thorazine-needy piece of work so much, keep him the hell out of my way in here and out of my pm box.
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Postby Moon Beam » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:19 am

conversationpc wrote:
JourneyFuxSingers wrote:
Saint John wrote:I've gotta interject here. Having talked to Susie a few times, whether it be PM or on the phone, I have to say that she's a wonderful lady. Cheerful, intelligent and funny. I'm not sure about the battle going on between her and 13, but he is WAY off base with his assertions.


Thanks SJ. Ur a total sweetheart urself & I'm always glad to talk to u.

Unfortunately I'm not sure about the battle either. Red13 started it months ago & wont let it go. U can see that in his response to u. Now I'm on thorazine. :roll:


HE can't let it go? Aren't you the one that jumped into this thread in a discussion that didn't involve you? :lol:



Fuck you Dave, give me the credit, I jumped in first and was ignored by both
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:19 am

conversationpc wrote:
JourneyFuxSingers wrote:
Saint John wrote:I've gotta interject here. Having talked to Susie a few times, whether it be PM or on the phone, I have to say that she's a wonderful lady. Cheerful, intelligent and funny. I'm not sure about the battle going on between her and 13, but he is WAY off base with his assertions.


Thanks SJ. Ur a total sweetheart urself & I'm always glad to talk to u.

Unfortunately I'm not sure about the battle either. Red13 started it months ago & wont let it go. U can see that in his response to u. Now I'm on thorazine. :roll:


HE can't let it go? Aren't you the one that jumped into this thread in a discussion that didn't involve you? :lol:


Speaking of which, what exactly are u doing right now?

But ur right. I did jump in. Only b/c I saw Red13 doing to other people exactly what he had done to me & him being called "respected" here.

My point STILL stands. HE cant let it go. Have u seen what he's written about me today ALONE?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:20 am

JourneyFuxSingers wrote:[ Now I'm on thorazine. :roll:


No, I said "u (want to roll ur eyes at something? Roll them at THAT stupid shit)" NEED it. As in, I wish "u" would GET it.


PS: I never correct people' spelling, either. I have an ongoing scholarly debate with Deano about the proper deployments of the words "Effect" and "Affect." That is IT.


No wonder you and St John are swapping spittle, though, what with that spelling typo hangup.
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:24 am

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JourneyFuxSingers wrote:[ Now I'm on thorazine. :roll:


No, I said "u (want to roll ur eyes at something? Roll them at THAT stupid shit)" NEED it. As in, I wish "u" would GET it.


I guess everyone who types "u" instead of "you" is a stupid shit then? Tell JSS that next time u see him, ok?

I dont need thorazine. Ur behavior today makes it look like u could use some tho.
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:25 am

JourneyFuxSingers wrote:Speaking of which, what exactly are u doing right now?


Different story. I'm not jumping into the middle of a thread to complain that the other person is stalking me.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:30 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
JourneyFuxSingers wrote:[ Now I'm on thorazine. :roll:


No, I said "u (want to roll ur eyes at something? Roll them at THAT stupid shit)" NEED it. As in, I wish "u" would GET it.


PS: I never correct people' spelling, either. I have an ongoing scholarly debate with Deano about the proper deployments of the words "Effect" and "Affect." That is IT.


No wonder you and St John are swapping spittle, though with that spelling typo hangup.


Easy fucker. Don't get me involved in this shit. :x
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:31 am

JourneyFuxSingers wrote: Tell JSS that next time u see him, ok?



I am not a glint in JSS' eyes. I don't make a second full-time job out of pming him, do you?
Even if he gave a shit what I thought, he'd know enough to make the distinction that he does that kind of infrequently (probly for need of time, unlike YOU who's likely doing it just because of HIM) and that I'm not making fun of him.

However, this pathetic little manuever is typical of the things you do, trying to publicly sway people against me.

When really, I don't care. Those who like me do, those like you will just continue to stray into my crosshairs and then bitch and cry about it as if it's my fault.
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
"I looked at Neal, and I just saw a guy who really wants his band back"-JCain 2/01
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