The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[RossValoryRocks]

What's wrong with being independent? Gotta be better than the two party system we're dealing with now. As to freaky church stuff when the muslims take over you'll be begging. I wonder if those burgas come in emerald green like my eyes.

independent as is want to see secede from the united states.

are you crazy? paranoid? wow, that is some comment.

Lula...that whole story about her and her husband was debunked within 2 days of it being spun out there in media land.

Hell now even YOU are going negative.

[Lula]

do we know that every sunday service was racial crap? Yes.

bologna!

and i knew how to spell that by singing the song...... my bologna has a first name, it's o-s-c-a-r

I bet you didn't need summer school to learn that song.

the summer program is for teachers, not school kids. i went through a program. got a whopping $1000 for 8 weeks of teacher boot camp.

i was a horrible student come high school.... could never seem to find my way to class

[scarygirl]

What's wrong with being independent? Gotta be better than the two party system we're dealing with now. As to freaky church stuff when the muslims take over you'll be begging. I wonder if those burgas come in emerald green like my eyes.

independent as is want to see secede from the united states.

are you crazy? paranoid? wow, that is some comment.

Not paranoid. Sharia law is taking over Great Britain. Granted their courts have been in existence for over 25 years, but their is talk of it superceding British law. If Britain falls how much longer do you think we'll have before we're ruled by islamic law too?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

As to Alaska wanting to secede. Let them. They'll probably be better off. Heck, the US would be better off if we hadn't been messing in other people's business in the first place.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2957428/Sharia-law-courts-operating-in-Britain.html

[RossValoryRocks]

Let me ask the liberals here: Do any Democrats bear ANY responsibility for the meltdown?

All I have read is how, :::GASP:::, it's all Bush's fault...do you REALLY believe that?

[Lula]

What's wrong with being independent? Gotta be better than the two party system we're dealing with now. As to freaky church stuff when the muslims take over you'll be begging. I wonder if those burgas come in emerald green like my eyes.

independent as is want to see secede from the united states.

are you crazy? paranoid? wow, that is some comment.

Lula...that whole story about her and her husband was debunked within 2 days of it being spun out there in media land.

Hell now even YOU are going negative.

never heard it was debunked. todd was a registered member for 7 years and she did a videotaped speech for their convention this year. and stu i only brought it up to counter judgment calls. i don't care about her husbands party affiliations.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Here's some more from Charly James.....

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/10/04 ... o-clothes/


Dude, if you think this kind of bullshit appeals to normal Americans, you are out of your mind. This guy is so full of hatred, he can barely type!

Sounds like the very accusations leveled at John Kerry throughout the 2004 campaign.
Only Democratic war veterans fair game to you?

[Lula]

What's wrong with being independent? Gotta be better than the two party system we're dealing with now. As to freaky church stuff when the muslims take over you'll be begging. I wonder if those burgas come in emerald green like my eyes.

independent as is want to see secede from the united states.

are you crazy? paranoid? wow, that is some comment.

Not paranoid. Sharia law is taking over Great Britain. Granted their courts have been in existence for over 25 years, but their is talk of it superceding British law. If Britain falls how much longer do you think we'll have before we're ruled by islamic law too?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

As to Alaska wanting to secede. Let them. They'll probably be better off. Heck, the US would be better off if we hadn't been messing in other people's business in the first place.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2957428/Sharia-law-courts-operating-in-Britain.html

and an obama admin will allow islamic rule how?

[Saint John]

Let me ask the liberals here: Do any Democrats bear ANY responsibility for the meltdown?

All I have read is how, :::GASP:::, it's all Bush's fault...do you REALLY believe that?

The meltdown, as I understand it, is primarily the fault of CEO's and execs that became greedy and lowered the old benchmark standard of a 20% down payment. Additionally, they lowered their standards for credit scores and gave out ARM's like lenders were fucking trick or treaters. This has very little/nothing to do with Bush. Which is exactly why these companies should be allowed to fail and die for good.

[scarygirl]

What's wrong with being independent? Gotta be better than the two party system we're dealing with now. As to freaky church stuff when the muslims take over you'll be begging. I wonder if those burgas come in emerald green like my eyes.

independent as is want to see secede from the united states.

are you crazy? paranoid? wow, that is some comment.

Not paranoid. Sharia law is taking over Great Britain. Granted their courts have been in existence for over 25 years, but their is talk of it superceding British law. If Britain falls how much longer do you think we'll have before we're ruled by islamic law too?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

As to Alaska wanting to secede. Let them. They'll probably be better off. Heck, the US would be better off if we hadn't been messing in other people's business in the first place.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2957428/Sharia-law-courts-operating-in-Britain.html

and an obama admin will allow islamic rule how?

By wanting to pacify terrorist nations. By disarming us. By changing our capitalist society to a socialist one.

[Uno_up]

I'm all for teachers...hell, my parents are both retired public school elementary school teachers. Yet, I found it ludicrous in the last four years my mother was teaching kindergarten, she was given a PAID teachers aide to help out wih the 25 kids she had (As were all 16 classroom teachers at this school). When I asked her what she needed the extra person for, she'd respond that it was unnecessary, yet welcomed by the teachers.
Yeah, at the taxpayers expense! (I love my mom though)
Instead we need to be proactive! I say there should be some type of branding system that recognizes adults that shouldn't be having kids. I'd be in favor of the government paying to have their tubes tied/vasectomy in return for a nice little check that they can blow on things they like...jeans that ride low, crack, and beer. Watch the quality of students improve then. (PS...I'm pro-life)

[Barb]

Here's some more from Charly James.....

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/10/04 ... o-clothes/


Dude, if you think this kind of bullshit appeals to normal Americans, you are out of your mind. This guy is so full of hatred, he can barely type!

Sounds like the very accusations leveled at John Kerry throughout the 2004 campaign.
Only Democratic war veterans fair game to you?

I'm pretty sure you didn't know me or what I thought during the 2004 election. Nice deflection. There is absolutely nothing you won't defend if it's on the liberal side of the political fence, is there?

[The_Noble_Cause]

obama will enact socialist programs.

Wow.
The same charge thrown at every Democratic president since FDR.
How very original.
Wasn't Teddy Roosevelt, McCain's idol and a a fierce supporter of a living wage, also brandished a socialist?
Call it whatever you will. People aren't voting for the status quo.

[Saint John]

I'd be in favor of the government paying to have their tubes tied/vasectomy in return for a nice little check that they can blow on things they like...jeans that ride low, crack, and beer.

This might be my favorite post, ever. Man, that's some funny shit. I'm 100% in agreement.

[RossValoryRocks]

Let me ask the liberals here: Do any Democrats bear ANY responsibility for the meltdown?

All I have read is how, :::GASP:::, it's all Bush's fault...do you REALLY believe that?

The meltdown, as I understand it, is primarily the fault of greedy CEO's and execs that became greedy and lowered the old benchmark standard of a 20% down payment. Additionally, they lowered their standards for credit scores and gave out ARM's like lenders were fucking trick or treaters. This has very little/nothing to do with Bush. Which is exactly why these companies should be allowed to fail and die for good.

OK Barney Frank's lover was in charge of the loosening of standards at Fannie Mae.

Chris Dodd got preferential loan terms from Countrywide and he is the Chair of the Senate Banking Committee while the meltdown was starting.

Obama has taken the 3rd most money IN HISTORY from Fannie Mae...and he is only been a Senator for TWO YEARS.

Don't they bear SOME responsibility?

[donnaplease]

Does anyone else find it somewhat odd that those recent bombings haven't affected this election one iota?

[Jana]

ROSSVALORYROCKS, everybody had a part in the meltdown, absolutely, some more than others. I don't even pretend to understand the dyanamics of it all. But Democrats aren't getting a free pass.

[Rhiannon]

Let me ask the liberals here: Do any Democrats bear ANY responsibility for the meltdown?

All I have read is how, :::GASP:::, it's all Bush's fault...do you REALLY believe that?

The meltdown, as I understand it, is primarily the fault of CEO's and execs that became greedy and lowered the old benchmark standard of a 20% down payment. Additionally, they lowered their standards for credit scores and gave out ARM's like lenders were fucking trick or treaters. This has very little/nothing to do with Bush. Which is exactly why these companies should be allowed to fail and die for good.

Agree one thousand percent. What they just passed might as well be called welfare for corporate america.

[RossValoryRocks]

Saint John, everybody had a part in the meltdown, absolutely, some more than others. I don't even pretend to understand the dyanamics of it all. But Democrats aren't getting a free pass.

They do with the liberals here...usually...7 did call Barney Frank a douchebag a page or two ago...

[Lula]

By wanting to pacify terrorist nations. By disarming us. By changing our capitalist society to a socialist one.

well scarygirl, i'm completely unaware of these plans. it would seem we have a socialist society already tho, and it isn't under president obama.

[scarygirl]

obama will enact socialist programs.

Wow.
The same charge thrown at every Democratic president since FDR.
How very original.
Wasn't Teddy Roosevelt, McCain's idol and a a fierce supporter of a living wage, also brandished a socialist?
Call it whatever you will. People aren't voting for the status quo.

I'd rather have the status quo. I don't make a hell of a lot of money, but I'd like to keep it with me and not have it pay for every Tom, Dick and Harry's Viagra prescription.

If I had to, I'd go back to the trailer park where I grew up with zero money, but lots of freedom.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm pretty sure you didn't know me or what I thought during the 2004 election. Nice deflection. There is absolutely nothing you won't defend if it's on the liberal side of the political fence, is there?

I'm not a deflecting OR defending.
I'm just pointing out more Republican mock outrage.
Rush Limbaugh talked about Swift Boaters Against McCain as well - before he clinched the nomination.
They've been out there for some time, and its too Obama's immense credit that he hasn't stooped as low as the GOP to wield it as a blunt instrument .

[RossValoryRocks]

and an obama admin will allow islamic rule how?

By wanting to pacify terrorist nations. By disarming us. By changing our capitalist society to a socialist one.

well scarygirl, i'm completely unaware of these plans. it would seem we have a socialist society already tho, and it isn't under president obama.[/quote]

1 TRILLION in new spending...and increased taxes on the VERY people who provide the investment capital that starts new companies, provides new jobs and such...yeah...the economy is going into the tank within 6 months of Obama's economic plan starting.

It will be WORSE than the Great Depression, because we have almost 3 times the population today.

But hey Lula, you and Dean get your wish and Obama will be President.

[Lula]

Let me ask the liberals here: Do any Democrats bear ANY responsibility for the meltdown?

All I have read is how, :::GASP:::, it's all Bush's fault...do you REALLY believe that?

absolutely!! i don't hold bush responsible, not for the whole thing just for the socialist aspect .

[donnaplease]

I'd be in favor of the government paying to have their tubes tied/vasectomy in return for a nice little check that they can blow on things they like...jeans that ride low, crack, and beer.

This might be my favorite post, ever. Man, that's some funny shit. I'm 100% in agreement.

Let's make Casey Anthony the poster child for that committee... What I wouldn't do to that skank!!!

[scarygirl]

By wanting to pacify terrorist nations. By disarming us. By changing our capitalist society to a socialist one.

well scarygirl, i'm completely unaware of these plans. it would seem we have a socialist society already tho, and it isn't under president obama.

If we have a socialist society already it is because of everyone thinking they deserve everything. And yes, this entitlement mentality has been pushed forward primarily by the democratic party and will be set in stone by Barock Obama. We're in the early throes of socialism. It hasn't gelled completely yet.

[Lula]

and an obama admin will allow islamic rule how?

By wanting to pacify terrorist nations. By disarming us. By changing our capitalist society to a socialist one.

well scarygirl, i'm completely unaware of these plans. it would seem we have a socialist society already tho, and it isn't under president obama.

1 TRILLION in new spending...and increased taxes on the VERY people who provide the investment capital that starts new companies, provides new jobs and such...yeah...the economy is going into the tank within 6 months of Obama's economic plan starting.

It will be WORSE than the Great Depression, because we have almost 3 times the population today.

But hey Lula, you and Dean get your wish and Obama will be President.[/quote]

so how does this create islamic rule? and aren't obama's tax policies in line with clinton's? seems things were pretty good with bill in charge. nothing higher than reagan's taxes?

[treetopovskaya]

did you say mayer? };C))

do we know that every sunday service was racial crap? Yes.

bologna!

and i knew how to spell that by singing the song...... my bologna has a first name, it's o-s-c-a-r

My bologna has a second name, it's m-a-y-e-r! I love to eat it everyday and if you ask me why I'll sayyyy...

Cause Oscar Mayer has a way with b-o-l-o-g-n-a.

[Lula]

By wanting to pacify terrorist nations. By disarming us. By changing our capitalist society to a socialist one.

well scarygirl, i'm completely unaware of these plans. it would seem we have a socialist society already tho, and it isn't under president obama.

If we have a socialist society already it is because of everyone thinking they deserve everything. And yes, this entitlement mentality has been pushed forward primarily by the democratic party and will be set in stone by Barock Obama. We're in the early throes of socialism. It hasn't gelled completely yet.

how the hell was this pushed forward by the dems? the gop has had the power for quite sometime, the dems only regained some power 2 yrs ago.

[7 Wishes]

The meltdown, as I understand it, is primarily the fault of CEO's and execs that became greedy and lowered the old benchmark standard of a 20% down payment. Additionally, they lowered their standards for credit scores and gave out ARM's like lenders were fucking trick or treaters. This has very little/nothing to do with Bush. Which is exactly why these companies should be allowed to fail and die for good.

Yep. I agree. BOTH parties passed legislation that, in retrospect, was very damaging. Bush did have a hand in it, though...no more and no less than the Dems or Republicans when both were in a majority in the House and Senate.

But the MAIN culprit is greed.

[The_Noble_Cause]

That has nothing to do with what I said. I'm merely pointing out what other Dems have said about Fox News' coverage of the campaign this year.

Ok. And I'm merely pointing out that those aforementioned Dems (all Clinton surrogates) are full of shit.
The very network that accuses her and Bill of muder is more fair then CNN and MSNBC?
Riiiight.

Take that up with Rendel and McAuliffe.

As if nobody around here piggybacks onto other existing posts?
I took issue with what you quoted and felt the need to comment on it.
If you’re not interested, maybe someone else is, and if not, I don’t really give a tinker's fuck.