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Re: Conflicted.

Postby Babyblue » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:14 pm

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Deb wrote:
finalfight wrote:Footage of Jeff Scott Soto performing the song "Broken Man" from "Beautiful Mess" at Paladino's in Tarzana, California -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE&eurl


Now that's soulful delivery! :) It's a good thing Cindi video'd it, cuz I just stood there like an idiot with my mouth hanging open during that one. :lol: :lol: :lol:


want me to post that pic?????


Hope we get to see it. :D

Love it the songs & i really like(hey)
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:19 pm

JSS wrote:INTENTIONALLY....this album is not for Yngwie, Talisman, Journey or even my past solo album fans!! Read the long interview I already did with Andrew, this board & most on this site will not like, understand or accept this album as a Jeff Scott Soto album, because it simply isn't. It's a JSS album which is aimed at a completely different market which I expected. Most fans of classic rock or their favorite artists doing classic rock want only that as much as contemporary artists today will someday be deemed 'oldies'. I'm reaching for something new, something different, something that appeals to more than my own age group or long time listeners, Talisman or any of the other bands I have ever been in won't have that chance again, all we can do is try :)


Thanks for the chime in, soul brothah.

Here's is the track listing per the MR front page interview. DREW!! you baby! HOW LONG have you had this whole cd??!!! :x

JSS - Beautiful Mess

Track By Track
21st Century - it's about all the movements, both morally & socially, through the ages we've experienced as a society in the 20th century...from all the dangers of drug & alcohol abuse to the rights of minorities & even women to vote. It all comes together in what we called the future yet what is here now, the 21st Century.

Cry Me A River - This one is about where we are as a society versus one man's struggle to find inner peace, it dwells in the idea of finding our way out of the 'beautiful mess' we've come to be in on this planet at the same time trying to climb out of a personal inner turmoil & finding that peace of mind for both.

Gin And Tonic Sky - This song is about an escape, not necessarily from the title's bluntness of alcohol, more a dreamscape of how the sky or rather, dream can be hazy through the affects of a gin & tonic. There is always somewhere to go when the chips are down, when all seems doom & gloom, everyone has their own G&T Sky to turn to.

Hey - This one is a feel good summertime song, about the end of your 9 to 5, kicking back with some friends, throwing back a few cold ones & making a holiday with every minute you can get away from the daily grind of life. Everyone can relate to this as we all have the stresses of the day we need to chill from.

Broken Man - This one is somewhat an apology for emotionally hurting someone else, making others feel cause for neglect or anxiety. In a sense it could be an open letter from a politician who never lived up to the level of promises & before leaving office & is asking for redemption. But at the same time, it could also pertain to someone who has suddenly walked away from a long relationship or even someone about to be released after serving a long prison sentence, a plea for forgiveness.

Mountain - This is about a lost soul in search of something or someone to guide him to the 'light'. Some might see it as a spiritual cry for help or some may see it as a child on their way to entering adulthood. It works both ways, sitting upon that mountain & looking down to which path they will or could take.

Our Song - This one is about all the many songs in our lives that we swear were written about 'us' personally & our relationships through the years. It deals with the mid point of a relationship where you're past the honeymoon stages but not quite at the ignoring each other at the dinner table stage! Ponders about if this is where 2 people want to be, will they find a way to recapture that magic or if it's the beginning of the end.

Eye - This one is about not only dreaming there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow but actually pursuing it. Most of us live seeing life through rose coloured glasses in hopes true love will find us but only some actually do something about it. This is one's person's goal in getting it.

Bring It On Home - This one is a good old fashioned 'I want you & I KNOW you want me' lyric. A little part teasing, a little part cocky & a lot of sensual desire here. The swanky, greasy groove makes this one ooze with sexual appetite!

Testify [Download MP3 Now] - This one is about getting straight to the point in wanting someone so badly you can't see straight. Whether you're one to chase or desire for many or there is that ONE person you must have, we all have that inner yearning to conquer that lust!

Wherever U Wanna Go - This one is about 2 ships passing in the night, a one night stand if I may, that is so cool, so perfect, that neither wants it to come to an end but the realities of either something like distance or even difference in personal religion would doom any chances of it being able to continue. I tried to put the romance into a situation that is normally looked upon as cheap & regretful. Rarely do 2 people find sparks from the throes of a 'heat of passion' experience.

Kick It - This one is about being with your soulmate, your life partner, the one you have devoted your heart to, telling them they still 'do it' for you after so many years. It's easy to forget all the things you did & said early on in relationships so this is a song that reminds your partner you continue the longing & desire to 'kick it' with them for life. For those abroad who don't understand the expression, in the US, we use the term 'kicking it' as an expression for hanging out, doing nothing & enjoying every second of it!
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Postby S2M » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:21 pm

Track 1 - Like it.

The rest......eh
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Re: Conflicted.

Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:23 pm

Babyblue wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Deb wrote:
finalfight wrote:Footage of Jeff Scott Soto performing the song "Broken Man" from "Beautiful Mess" at Paladino's in Tarzana, California -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE&eurl


Now that's soulful delivery! :) It's a good thing Cindi video'd it, cuz I just stood there like an idiot with my mouth hanging open during that one. :lol: :lol: :lol:


want me to post that pic?????


Hope we get to see it. :D

Love it the songs & i really like(hey)


you got it. (you won't see the pic, however, cuz I will murdered)

HEY from Paladino's, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSx-CeGaMuY
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:26 pm

StocktontoMalone wrote:Track 1 - Like it.

The rest......eh


hang in there. It'll come. :wink: Gin And Tonic Sky is really really beautiful. give it another go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcGTIxeAmYk

the lighting that night absolutely inhaled vigorously. :x

here is the same song same stage, the year before with the lights working. we had pretty thoroughly loaded that band up with shots so they were really ................happy. :lol: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZNN4Z_ZSOI

(p.s. I miss John Stockton. :cry: )
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Postby Greg » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:14 am

JSS wrote:INTENTIONALLY....this album is not for Yngwie, Talisman, Journey or even my past solo album fans!! Read the long interview I already did with Andrew, this board & most on this site will not like, understand or accept this album as a Jeff Scott Soto album, because it simply isn't. It's a JSS album which is aimed at a completely different market which I expected. Most fans of classic rock or their favorite artists doing classic rock want only that as much as contemporary artists today will someday be deemed 'oldies'. I'm reaching for something new, something different, something that appeals to more than my own age group or long time listeners, Talisman or any of the other bands I have ever been in won't have that chance again, all we can do is try :)


And just as you predicted Jeff, there's going to be fans who won't like it at all. For myself, this type of sound is exactly where my musical tastes are today. Sure, I still like the classic melodic rock sound. After all, if I didn't, I would've never joined this site. However, in recent years, I've leaned more toward the sound of bands like 3 Doors Down, The Fray, Evanescence, and Maroon 5. And what do all of those bands have in common? They are at the height of their popularity. Why? Because their sound is modern and unique.

I think you've made a very modernistic and unique sounding album, Jeff. And, I really like it and honestly believe this album can go far. I also think you deserve it big time Jeff!
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Postby DrFU » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:22 am

JSS's new stuff isn't full of hooks that have you singing the words after one listen.

Much more layered and complex...it draws you in, and then you FEEL it.

Those of you dismissing it after one listen to the samples are missing something excellent.

(thanks, Mimi, for sneaking that CD into my car changer :wink: )
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Postby S2M » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:24 am

Difference isn't good enough.....it also has to appeal to people.

The Beatles were different, too.....they just got lucky that they put out GOOD music.
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Re: Conflicted.

Postby Deb » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:25 am

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Deb wrote:
finalfight wrote:Footage of Jeff Scott Soto performing the song "Broken Man" from "Beautiful Mess" at Paladino's in Tarzana, California -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE&eurl


Now that's soulful delivery! :) It's a good thing Cindi video'd it, cuz I just stood there like an idiot with my mouth hanging open during that one. :lol: :lol: :lol:


want me to post that pic?????


:lol: No. :oops: :oops:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:31 am

DrFU wrote:JSS's new stuff isn't full of hooks that have you singing the words after one listen.

Much more layered and complex...it draws you in, and then you FEEL it.

Those of you dismissing it after one listen to the samples are missing something excellent.

(thanks, Mimi, for sneaking that CD into my car changer :wink: )


DEB1 already sold me....she's good!!!! I will own this!!!! :wink:
Thanks for the links everyone.....I LOVE IT!!!!
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Postby Deb » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:37 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
DrFU wrote:JSS's new stuff isn't full of hooks that have you singing the words after one listen.

Much more layered and complex...it draws you in, and then you FEEL it.

Those of you dismissing it after one listen to the samples are missing something excellent.

(thanks, Mimi, for sneaking that CD into my car changer :wink: )


DEB1 already sold me....she's good!!!! I will own this!!!! :wink:
Thanks for the links everyone.....I LOVE IT!!!!


:mrgreen: :wink:
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Postby Lula » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:39 am

i like the new music. always willing to give anything a listen. not easy trying something different, especially knowing your fans may not buy into it.... good for you jeff 8)
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Postby finalfight » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:40 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Difference isn't good enough.....it also has to appeal to people.

The Beatles were different, too.....they just got lucky that they put out GOOD music.


It may be different for what might have been expected of JSS but it seems fairly generic in the bigger picture - which may well be the point. It definitely meshes with what passes for popular today and should do well with the proper promotion.

I must admit I found Jeff's comment somewhat belittling. It's not for fans of previous work, they won't understand it, won't accept it etc. Let me tell you this isn't Dark Side of the Moon part II here. We want to give it a chance and I'm sure the majority will like it, many will understand and accept it! I can certainly see the potential for success here and applaud the new direction and hope it all goes well. Over time I think this could well be Jeff's biggest success so far and that's coming from someone who doesn't particularly like the samples and is hoping to find himself in the minority.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:03 am

DrFU wrote:JSS's new stuff isn't full of hooks that have you singing the words after one listen.

Much more layered and complex...it draws you in, and then you FEEL it.

Those of you dismissing it after one listen to the samples are missing something excellent.

(thanks, Mimi, for sneaking that CD into my car changer :wink: )



(shhhhhhhhhh. we lifted those samples from his my space. (thanks ED) no one is supposed to know.)

oh hi JSS!!! nothing to see here.....move along.....

well how the heck do you think we knew ALL the words at SF and Paladino's???

u underestimate our sneakiness....... :twisted:

and I think one of the new videos should include a concert shot of the chicas, front row center, singing loudly and smiling largely. :D
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Postby Rip Rokken » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:15 am

I'm a HUGE Talisman fan, and also love Takara, Axel Rudi Pell, and so many of Jeff's other rocking projects... that being said...

I DIG THIS!!!!! WAY TO GO, JEFF, and BEST OF LUCK!!! I shared the samples with friends over in AP's Shout Box, and they dig it, too.

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P.S. -- I seriously need to make some JSS smiley's, including a "nice cup" version to use as a weapon against anyone who doesn't like this... LOL!
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Postby jrnychick » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:17 am

finalfight wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:Difference isn't good enough.....it also has to appeal to people.

The Beatles were different, too.....they just got lucky that they put out GOOD music.


It may be different for what might have been expected of JSS but it seems fairly generic in the bigger picture - which may well be the point. It definitely meshes with what passes for popular today and should do well with the proper promotion.

I must admit I found Jeff's comment somewhat belittling. It's not for fans of previous work, they won't understand it, won't accept it etc. Let me tell you this isn't Dark Side of the Moon part II here. We want to give it a chance and I'm sure the majority will like it, many will understand and accept it! I can certainly see the potential for success here and applaud the new direction and hope it all goes well. Over time I think this could well be Jeff's biggest success so far and that's coming from someone who doesn't particularly like the samples and is hoping to find himself in the minority.


I had a different take on Jeff's comment. I read it to mean that the music was not written with the Talisman/Journey/Yngwie fan in mind. Therefore, those listeners may not find it to be their cup of tea. Us "older" folks will buy it if we like it, but we shouldn't expect more of the same sound we've heard in the past. Jeff is clearly trying to reach a broader, younger audience. I applaud him for it! He's been recording and touring for many years now, and is a great singer. He should have the broader commercial success.
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Postby Deb » Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:40 am

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
DrFU wrote:JSS's new stuff isn't full of hooks that have you singing the words after one listen.

Much more layered and complex...it draws you in, and then you FEEL it.

Those of you dismissing it after one listen to the samples are missing something excellent.

(thanks, Mimi, for sneaking that CD into my car changer :wink: )



(shhhhhhhhhh. we lifted those samples from his my space. (thanks ED) no one is supposed to know.)

oh hi JSS!!! nothing to see here.....move along.....

well how the heck do you think we knew ALL the words at SF and Paladino's???

u underestimate our sneakiness....... :twisted:

and I think one of the new videos should include a concert shot of the chicas, front row center, singing loudly and smiling largely. :D


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DrFU » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:04 am

Deb wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
DrFU wrote:JSS's new stuff isn't full of hooks that have you singing the words after one listen.

Much more layered and complex...it draws you in, and then you FEEL it.

Those of you dismissing it after one listen to the samples are missing something excellent.

(thanks, Mimi, for sneaking that CD into my car changer :wink: )



(shhhhhhhhhh. we lifted those samples from his my space. (thanks ED) no one is supposed to know.)

oh hi JSS!!! nothing to see here.....move along.....

well how the heck do you think we knew ALL the words at SF and Paladino's???

u underestimate our sneakiness....... :twisted:

and I think one of the new videos should include a concert shot of the chicas, front row center, singing loudly and smiling largely. :D


:lol: :lol: :lol:


That whole sing and smile at the same time thing... and give the guys thumbs up, and clap, and dance, and take pics, and film...all under the influence of rum...front row is friggin exhausting work :lol: A couple of seconds of screen time is the least he could do.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:03 am

DrFU wrote:[
That whole sing and smile at the same time thing... and give the guys thumbs up, and clap, and dance, and take pics, and film...all under the influence of rum...front row is friggin exhausting work :lol: A couple of seconds of screen time is the least he could do.


seriously. and all on absolutely no sleep. :? and no food. unless airline peanuts count.

chicas can run just on hair spray fumes.
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Postby DrFU » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:11 am

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
chicas can run just on hair spray fumes.


LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, that line's goin' in the Mimi hall of fame.
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Postby SunshineTwilight » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:04 am

DrFU wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
chicas can run just on hair spray fumes.


LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, that line's goin' in the Mimi hall of fame.



CLASSIC!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Firefest, here we come! 8)
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:06 am

SunshineTwilight wrote:
DrFU wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
chicas can run just on hair spray fumes.


LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, that line's goin' in the Mimi hall of fame.



CLASSIC!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Firefest, here we come! 8)


due to size limitations on international flights, chicas please limit your hair spray to several small containers instead of the usual 5 gallon drum. thank you for your cooperation. :roll:
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Postby DrFU » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:10 am

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
SunshineTwilight wrote:
DrFU wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
chicas can run just on hair spray fumes.


LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, that line's goin' in the Mimi hall of fame.



CLASSIC!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Firefest, here we come! 8)


due to size limitations on international flights, chicas please limit your hair spray to several small containers instead of the usual 5 gallon drum. thank you for your cooperation. :roll:


They only charge $25 bucks for each extra checked bag (that 12.5 British pounds; sounds better that way). :D
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Postby SunshineTwilight » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:19 am

DrFU wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
SunshineTwilight wrote:
DrFU wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
chicas can run just on hair spray fumes.


LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, that line's goin' in the Mimi hall of fame.



CLASSIC!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Firefest, here we come! 8)


due to size limitations on international flights, chicas please limit your hair spray to several small containers instead of the usual 5 gallon drum. thank you for your cooperation. :roll:


They only charge $25 bucks for each extra checked bag (that 12.5 British pounds; sounds better that way). :D


Only a true Chica could highjack this thread with a can of hairspray! :roll: :lol:
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Postby Rip Rokken » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:51 am

SunshineTwilight wrote:Only a true Chica could highjack this thread with a can of hairspray! :roll: :lol:


I should never have opened this thread... now I'll always get a vision of a pink can of Aqua Net when I think of the chicas... haha!

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Postby DrFU » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:52 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
SunshineTwilight wrote:Only a true Chica could highjack this thread with a can of hairspray! :roll: :lol:


I should never have opened this thread... now I'll always get a vision of a pink can of Aqua Net when I think of the chicas... haha!

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multipurpose can...modify visual accordingly, Rip...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

hairspray gets ink spots out of clothing, substitutes for mace in a pinch, helps dry nail polish quicker; truly a chica secret weapon...
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Postby Allied Forces » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:15 pm

This is really good stuff. Very current sounding. Sounds like something you are very committed to. Daring, but true to what I have learned about you as an artitst.

Mr. Soto, I wish you the best on this. Thanks for posting here!
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Postby Andrew » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:33 pm

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:DREW!! you baby! HOW LONG have you had this whole cd??!!! :x


A few months now :)

LOVIN' IT! :twisted:
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Postby SunshineTwilight » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:46 pm

Andrew wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:DREW!! you baby! HOW LONG have you had this whole cd??!!! :x


A few months now :)

LOVIN' IT! :twisted:


TEASE!!!!! :P :evil: :wink:
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Postby Deb » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:08 pm

DrFU wrote:
Deb wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
DrFU wrote:JSS's new stuff isn't full of hooks that have you singing the words after one listen.

Much more layered and complex...it draws you in, and then you FEEL it.

Those of you dismissing it after one listen to the samples are missing something excellent.

(thanks, Mimi, for sneaking that CD into my car changer :wink: )



(shhhhhhhhhh. we lifted those samples from his my space. (thanks ED) no one is supposed to know.)

oh hi JSS!!! nothing to see here.....move along.....

well how the heck do you think we knew ALL the words at SF and Paladino's???

u underestimate our sneakiness....... :twisted:

and I think one of the new videos should include a concert shot of the chicas, front row center, singing loudly and smiling largely. :D


:lol: :lol: :lol:


That whole sing and smile at the same time thing... and give the guys thumbs up, and clap, and dance, and take pics, and film...all under the influence of rum...front row is friggin exhausting work :lol: A couple of seconds of screen time is the least he could do.


LOL, damn straight......especially when you're throwing mic stands around. :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock:
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