Is Steve Augeri tone deaf?

[Tomulator]

maybe pitchy at times but definetly not tone deaf....Steve is the real deal. A great talent and the savior of Journey.

Journey's still around??????

Who knew?

[brywool]

I think we're just a picky bunch. There are a lot of musicians who are on the boards. Most of the average fans like me don't notice all this stuff and are happy with what we hear.

I'd still go see him. I like him. But...it is what it is.

[slucero]

singing on stage at band volume is hard... after the monitor mix gets dialed usually everyone starts to play harder as gig progresses cause they start to lose their ears due to the stage volume... so the monitors start to go away.... and it gets hard to hear your vocal.... unless yer right on the monitor.

I noticed Steve was singing in front of wedges... didn't see any in-ears...

[brywool]

singing on stage at band volume is hard... after the monitor mix gets dialed usually everyone starts to play harder as gig progresses cause they start to lose their ears due to the stage volume... so the monitors start to go away.... and it gets hard to hear your vocal.... unless yer right on the monitor.

I noticed Steve was singing in front of wedges... didn't see any in-ears...

I'm sure he had in ears. It's industry standard. Floor monitors blow. I hate them.
Also, if he was playing guitar on that tour (was that the Generations one?) the monitor might've been there for his guitar OR it coulda been teleprompters!

[slucero]

I just watched that whole vid again... didn't see him wearing in ears (the other musicians either)... and he was hovering over the wedges... just like I used to when I couldn't hear... lol...

[KDOUBLEU]

I thought this performance was awful.

[Jana]

maybe pitchy at times but definetly not tone deaf....Steve is the real deal. A great talent and the savior of Journey.

Journey's still around??????

Who knew?

Just the million plus who bought Revelation knew and best-selling DVD buyers and all the attendees of their concerts for years knew.

[TRAGChick]

The interval he hits at 3:20 on the word "ways" shows that he can pole-vault his voice to a higher pitch and hit it.

Overall.....yeah; a few problems in the beginning....but to me, it sounded more from the Guitarist than him.

[7 Wishes]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

[Chubby321]

I don't think it's great but I don't find it awful.

[parfait]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

Not true.

Augeri could wiggle.

[Jana]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

I agree, except in one area. Steve Augeri gives a much more polished, nuanced delivery on a lot of songs for studio recording.

[7 Wishes]

Even without Tapegate - and even if he hadn't blow out his voice - Journey would be finished by now if SA were still the frontman.

Pineda saved this band, big time.

[parfait]

Even without Tapegate - and even if he hadn't blow out his voice - Journey would be finished by now if SA were still the frontman.

Pineda saved this band, big time.

No doubt about it.

[Jana]

Even without Tapegate - and even if he hadn't blow out his voice - Journey would be finished by now if SA were still the frontman.

Pineda saved this band, big time.

No doubt about it.

I agree.

I just wish his solo album would be in the vein of something I like, like Kiss Me Softly, etc, that type of music, where it showcases his voice in a richer tone. I wasn't into his Skyscraper sound at all.

[SYNCH]

Props to Steve for coming back after blowing his voice. Much respect to the guy!

[Michigan Girl]

Even without Tapegate - and even if he hadn't blow out his voice - Journey would be finished by now if SA were still the frontman.

Pineda saved this band, big time.

A defibrillator perhaps? A little electrical shock to keep the heart beating!!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

I'll second what daytrpr said.
Arnel is superior to Augeri in most respects, but he also has that shrill "oil squeak" or "clubbed baby seals" quality that Perry matured out of around Frontiers.
What I always liked about Augeri, and to a greater degree Kevin Chalfant, was that they had the soaring tenor without any of that.
Both are blockbuster talents, but I'd take Augeri.

[ScarabGator]

maybe pitchy at times but definetly not tone deaf....Steve is the real deal. A great talent and the savior of Journey.

Journey's still around??????

Who knew?

Not anymore......

[Abitaman]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

i like Augeri's vocals better too, doesn't matter who is better, and Arnel is a better vocalist. But Augeri is hisself, and that is one of the things I like about him.

[Abitaman]

Even without Tapegate - and even if he hadn't blow out his voice - Journey would be finished by now if SA were still the frontman.

Pineda saved this band, big time.

Actually, Augeri save the band back in the 90's. AP brought them back into a bigger lime light, than with Augeri. If Augeri had not blown his voice, Journey may still have been going under the sales radar. But there was talk with Augeri and JSS of a Walmart deal, so who knows.

[Abitaman]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

I'll second what daytrpr said.
Arnel is superior to Augeri in most respects, but he also has that shrill "oil squeak" or "clubbed baby seals" quality that Perry matured out of around Frontiers.
What I always liked about Augeri, and to a greater degree Kevin Chalfant, was that they had the soaring tenor without any of that.
Both are blockbuster talents, but I'd take Augeri.

You nailed that.

Would love to see a Kevin/Augeri cd or at least a song together.

[marco17]

Even without Tapegate - and even if he hadn't blow out his voice - Journey would be finished by now if SA were still the frontman.

Pineda saved this band, big time.

Possibly, but I never saw too many empty venues with Augeri at the helm, and it is widely known that bands like Journey make their $$$$ and prove their popularity on the road not with album sales, and while a few still care, success isn't necessarily determined by those numbers any longer. Luckily, the PR machine picked up for them with Arnel's rags to riches-YouTube story. My guess is that if there wasn't that sort of human interest story where a lot of people wanted to root for Arnel to be successful, most of us included, and the WalMart machine behind the Revelation release, I doubt you'd see Journey in the light they presently are. As many have said, will the new album continue with the momentum, or were a lot of casual fans wowed by the WalMart package and Arnel's story, which was/is nice, but frankly not relevant going into the next release. But, I digress.... back to Mr. Augeri, and those of us who do like him and are happy to see him out and about, regardless.

[brywool]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

Not true.

Augeri could wiggle.

WHAT IS THE WIGGLE??? Honestly, I have no idea what that is.

[brywool]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

I'll second what daytrpr said.
Arnel is superior to Augeri in most respects, but he also has that shrill "oil squeak" or "clubbed baby seals" quality that Perry matured out of around Frontiers.
What I always liked about Augeri, and to a greater degree Kevin Chalfant, was that they had the soaring tenor without any of that.
Both are blockbuster talents, but I'd take Augeri.

Same here. Doesn't mean I don't love Augeri, but if it was a choice between "Arnie boy" [courtesy ScarabGator, used with expressed written permission] and SA, Arnel wins hands down.

[Jana]

Don't mean to be a jerk - I actually much prefer Augeri's vocal qualities to Arnel's

Seriously? Wow. I don't know ANYONE who feels that way. Arnel is ten times better in every respect than Augieri was at his best.

I'll second what daytrpr said.
Arnel is superior to Augeri in most respects, but he also has that shrill "oil squeak" or "clubbed baby seals" quality that Perry matured out of around Frontiers.
What I always liked about Augeri, and to a greater degree Kevin Chalfant, was that they had the soaring tenor without any of that.
Both are blockbuster talents, but I'd take Augeri.

Same here. Doesn't mean I don't love Augeri, but if it was a choice between "Arnie boy" [courtesy ScarabGator, used with expressed written permission] and SA, Arnel wins hands down.

Asolutely. Love Arrival. But Arnel wins for me, too, with Journey. Love him in concert with the Boyzzzzz.

[Don]

To me, Arnel is the better singer. However, this isn't a karaoke contest, it's the material that counts. From that perspective, I believe Arrival to be heads and tails above Revelation. TDTWT is a great song and NWA is alright also. Two songs though, does not an album make. Arrival has at least six or seven songs I can listen to on a regular basis. I think what ever writing formula the band used for Arrival should be used again. As good as Cain is at writing by himself, how many of his solo albums (and there's a bunch) has ever done anything? For every great song he authors, he's got a dozen stinkers.
Switch albums around and have Arnel on Arrival in 2008 and I think it scores in the Top ten albums of the year.

[Jana]

To me, Arnel is the better singer. However, this isn't a karaoke contest, it's the material that counts. From that perspective, I believe Arrival to be heads and tails above Revelation. TDTWT is a great song and NWA is alright also. Two songs though, does not an album make. Arrival has at least six or seven songs I can listen to on a regular basis. I think what ever writing formula the band used for Arrival should be used again. As good as Cain is at writing by himself, how many of his solo albums (and there's a bunch) has ever done anything? For every great song he authors, he's got a dozen stinkers.
Switch albums around and have Arnel on Arrival in 2008 and I think it scores in the Top ten albums of the year.

I think Revelation had more than two good songs and I enjoy the CD, and it has many songs that translate well on stage. But Arrival had a sophistication in writing and beautiful melody in the songs that resulted in superior songs overall that I tend to want to listen to more, and even though vocally definitely not as great as Arnel, Augeri gives a much more polished delivery of the songs on Arrival than Arnel on the Revelation songs. I think Arrival was one of their better albums and, agree, should use a few of those songwriters on some songs on the new album.

[brywool]

To me, Arnel is the better singer. However, this isn't a karaoke contest, it's the material that counts. From that perspective, I believe Arrival to be heads and tails above Revelation. TDTWT is a great song and NWA is alright also. Two songs though, does not an album make. Arrival has at least six or seven songs I can listen to on a regular basis. I think what ever writing formula the band used for Arrival should be used again. As good as Cain is at writing by himself, how many of his solo albums (and there's a bunch) has ever done anything? For every great song he authors, he's got a dozen stinkers.
Switch albums around and have Arnel on Arrival in 2008 and I think it scores in the Top ten albums of the year.

Augeri didn't write much on Arrival. If they were smart, they'd write with Perry. If he doesn't want to perform- fine, but writing with the band would pay big for him. Neither camp would entertain the idea.

[Abitaman]

To me, Arnel is the better singer. However, this isn't a karaoke contest, it's the material that counts. From that perspective, I believe Arrival to be heads and tails above Revelation. TDTWT is a great song and NWA is alright also. Two songs though, does not an album make. Arrival has at least six or seven songs I can listen to on a regular basis. I think what ever writing formula the band used for Arrival should be used again. As good as Cain is at writing by himself, how many of his solo albums (and there's a bunch) has ever done anything? For every great song he authors, he's got a dozen stinkers.
Switch albums around and have Arnel on Arrival in 2008 and I think it scores in the Top ten albums of the year.

Augeri didn't write much on Arrival. If they were smart, they'd write with Perry. If he doesn't want to perform- fine, but writing with the band would pay big for him. Neither camp would entertain the idea.

Jack Blades had his hand in writing for ARRIVAL and Remember Me. Jack has a very good melodic writing skill about him. Plus jack can write very well with other artists, Tommy Shaw, Styx, Damn Yankees, Night Ranger, Journey, Aerosmith, Shaw/Blades. Bring Blades in as a (co)writer, and let him loose. Neal played on Jack's solo cd, some good tunes there.