The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[BobbyinTN]

uh, ya think? 1/2 the country is Republican so don't lump everyone together John

Wrong again. There are more Democrats than Republicans and that number is growing.

It sure is. The inner cities are getting filled with more and more trash. That's the democratic base. Always has been.

Right. Unlike the racist assholes that call themselves republicans.

[Saint John]

uh, ya think? 1/2 the country is Republican so don't lump everyone together John

Wrong again. There are more Democrats than Republicans and that number is growing.

It sure is. The inner cities are getting filled with more and more trash. That's the democratic base. Always has been.

Right. Unlike the racist assholes that call themselves republicans.

Tinkerbell is back!!!

[BobbyinTN]

The POWs that McCain was held with called him a few names too, one being SONGBIRD. So, from now on when people try to use Obama's middle name as a way to cut him, just call McCain "Songbird". The link will tell you why.

Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps.


They call McCain “Songbird,” and say he received special treatment. Some in the POW community even believe he was brainwashed like Raymond Shaw, the character played by Laurence Harvey in “The Manchurian candidate,” who was used as a tool by the communists to destroy America from within.



http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17 ... ietnamese/

[The_Noble_Cause]

The POWs that McCain was held with called him a few names too, one being SONGBIRD. So, from now on when people try to use Obama's middle name as a way to cut him, just call McCain "Songbird". The link will tell you why.

Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps.


They call McCain “Songbird,” and say he received special treatment. Some in the POW community even believe he was brainwashed like Raymond Shaw, the character played by Laurence Harvey in “The Manchurian candidate,” who was used as a tool by the communists to destroy America from within.



http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17 ... ietnamese/

Like Kerry, there have been Swift Boaters against McCain for a long time.
No one in the media will go there, and I don't blame them.

[Tito]

I didn't watch the whole thing because I wanted to puke but the guy with the monkey dressed up as Obama was out of bounds.

Why? All bullshit aside, he has a striking resemblance to that doll (But I do understand the dirty overtones the people are trying to get across.) Biden looks like Alfred from the old Batman series, and Palin is just plain hot.

I was ready to jump all over you until I read this:

Just like McCain looks like he just crawled out of a casket.

And I have to confess, everytime I see Palin, I swear I am going to fire off a gatlin gun of jizz.

Hi Dean!

[conversationpc]

The POWs that McCain was held with called him a few names too, one being SONGBIRD. So, from now on when people try to use Obama's middle name as a way to cut him, just call McCain "Songbird". The link will tell you why.

Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps.


They call McCain “Songbird,” and say he received special treatment. Some in the POW community even believe he was brainwashed like Raymond Shaw, the character played by Laurence Harvey in “The Manchurian candidate,” who was used as a tool by the communists to destroy America from within.



http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17 ... ietnamese/

Like Kerry, there have been Swift Boaters against McCain for a long time.
No one in the media will go there, and I don't blame them.

Any political candidate who uses their military experience as a campaign issue will have a cadre of military supporters AND opposition.

[Saint John]

The POWs that McCain was held with called him a few names too, one being SONGBIRD. So, from now on when people try to use Obama's middle name as a way to cut him, just call McCain "Songbird". The link will tell you why.

Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps.


They call McCain “Songbird,” and say he received special treatment. Some in the POW community even believe he was brainwashed like Raymond Shaw, the character played by Laurence Harvey in “The Manchurian candidate,” who was used as a tool by the communists to destroy America from within.



http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17 ... ietnamese/

John McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi. McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake. Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him. McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".


McCain being pulled from Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi on October 26, 1967Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, beating and interrogating him to get information; he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral. His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.

McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care. By then having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white, McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week. In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.

[BobbyinTN]

uh, ya think? 1/2 the country is Republican so don't lump everyone together John

Wrong again. There are more Democrats than Republicans and that number is growing.

It sure is. The inner cities are getting filled with more and more trash. That's the democratic base. Always has been.

Right. Unlike the racist assholes that call themselves republicans.

Tinkerbell is back!!!

Suck my dick. Oh wait, you're a republican, you'd probably like it, then bitch about it.

[Tito]

The POWs that McCain was held with called him a few names too, one being SONGBIRD. So, from now on when people try to use Obama's middle name as a way to cut him, just call McCain "Songbird". The link will tell you why.

Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps.


They call McCain “Songbird,” and say he received special treatment. Some in the POW community even believe he was brainwashed like Raymond Shaw, the character played by Laurence Harvey in “The Manchurian candidate,” who was used as a tool by the communists to destroy America from within.



http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17 ... ietnamese/

Due to some of his policies, specificially open borders, I'll agree with you on the brainwashing

[BobbyinTN]

The POWs that McCain was held with called him a few names too, one being SONGBIRD. So, from now on when people try to use Obama's middle name as a way to cut him, just call McCain "Songbird". The link will tell you why.

Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps.


They call McCain “Songbird,” and say he received special treatment. Some in the POW community even believe he was brainwashed like Raymond Shaw, the character played by Laurence Harvey in “The Manchurian candidate,” who was used as a tool by the communists to destroy America from within.



http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17 ... ietnamese/

John McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi. McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake. Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him. McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".


McCain being pulled from Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi on October 26, 1967Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, beating and interrogating him to get information; he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral. His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.

McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care. By then having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white, McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week. In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

[Tito]

Acorn will shape Obama's presidency (1:45 mark and beyond):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

[conversationpc]

uh, ya think? 1/2 the country is Republican so don't lump everyone together John

Wrong again. There are more Democrats than Republicans and that number is growing.

It sure is. The inner cities are getting filled with more and more trash. That's the democratic base. Always has been.

Right. Unlike the racist assholes that call themselves republicans.

Tinkerbell is back!!!

Suck my dick. Oh wait, you're a republican, you'd probably like it, then bitch about it.

Nah, Democrats are nowhere near as hateful or nasty as Republicans are.

[Tito]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

Now you've lost your mind.

[Saint John]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

He was shot down, moron. Did your semen well run dry or something? You've got your panties in a bunch today, sunshine.

[Lula]

Any political candidate who uses their military experience as a campaign issue will have a cadre of military supporters AND opposition.

I can think of one guy who this would never apply to.

[Lula]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

He was shot down, moron. Did your semen well run dry or something? You've got your panties in a bunch today, sunshine.

Actually Tito and Daniel, McCain has crashed a couple jets in his Naval career, most in practice time.

[BobbyinTN]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

He was shot down, moron. Did your semen well run dry or something? You've got your panties in a bunch today, sunshine.

Why are you so concerned with my semen? You curious?

I'm going commando, if that helps your fantasy any.

He was a "Songbird" spilling his guts for oranges, cigarettes and medical treatment.

Here's some more of his flawless record.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmc ... five_u.htm

[The_Noble_Cause]

Any political candidate who uses their military experience as a campaign issue will have a cadre of military supporters AND opposition.

I don't know about that.
The charges leveled against McCain and Kerry both involve betraying their country.
Hagel, Webb, and Warner are all vets - I haven't heard any rumors.

[Saint John]

He was a "Songbird" spilling his guts for oranges, cigarettes and medical treatment.

Wow, this information probably changed the war.

"Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

[Lula]

Bobby, with all due respect, these groups such as "Swiftboaters against Kerry" and this one you posted, "Vietnam Vets against McCain" are full of shit.

The fact is nobody is perfect, and be it John Kerry or Jon McCain, those two guys actually went to battle, while a bunch of these fucks sit at home doin drugs, puttin on headbands, listening to the goddamned Beatle albums.

It's bullshit to really call them out for inaccuracies as they are Heros. Heros who fought and offered the ultimate sacrifice if it happened. Jon McCain is IMO, pissing some, not all of that away with his desperation in this campaign, but I will always hold the old bastard to a high level of respect.

Now, as with the Kerry aswift boat guys..Hannity of Fox celebrated them and called them heros for uncovering mistruths. Will Hannity say the same thing to these guys who are calling out McCain?

[Tito]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

He was shot down, moron. Did your semen well run dry or something? You've got your panties in a bunch today, sunshine.

Actually Tito and Daniel, McCain has crashed a couple jets in his Naval career, most in practice time.

I am NOT a McCain fan. You're right he shouldn't have been allowed to fly. If it wasn't for his father he would've never passed. Also, Palin is NOT a bitch. The candidate you were supporting, Hillary, is the bitch with a capital C. Also, Michelle Obama fits that description.

[stevew2]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

He was shot down, moron. Did your semen well run dry or something? You've got your panties in a bunch today, sunshine.

Why are you so concerned with my semen? You curious?

I'm going commando, if that helps your fantasy any.

He was a "Songbird" spilling his guts for oranges, cigarettes and medical treatment.

Here's some more of his flawless record.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmc ... five_u.htm

I used to go commando till I got my nuts stuck in the zipper, buy some panties, take care of your shit

[Tito]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

He was shot down, moron. Did your semen well run dry or something? You've got your panties in a bunch today, sunshine.

Why are you so concerned with my semen? You curious?

I'm going commando, if that helps your fantasy any.

He was a "Songbird" spilling his guts for oranges, cigarettes and medical treatment.

Here's some more of his flawless record.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmc ... five_u.htm

I used to go commando till I got my nuts stuck in the zipper, buy some panties, take care of your shit

I was waiting for you to pop in here.

[BobbyinTN]

Bobby, with all due respect, these groups such as "Swiftboaters against Kerry" and this one you posted, "Vietnam Vets against McCain" are full of shit.

The fact is nobody is perfect, and be it John Kerry or Jon McCain, those two guys actually went to battle, while a bunch of these fucks sit at home doin drugs, puttin on headbands, listening to the goddamned Beatle albums.

It's bullshit to really call them out for inaccuracies as they are Heros. Heros who fought and offered the ultimate sacrifice if it happened. Jon McCain is IMO, pissing some, not all of that away with his desperation in this campaign, but I will always hold the old bastard to a high level of respect.

Now, as with the Kerry aswift boat guys..Hannity of Fox celebrated them and called them heros for uncovering mistruths. Will Hannity say the same thing to these guys who are calling out McCain?

I agree to an extent, but the republicans deserve to get as good as they gave. They tried to discredit John Kerry at every turn, especially making fun of his injuries wearing those purple band-aids. I have no respect for them. As long as they want to bring up Ayers and other things from Obama's past, then every politician's past is relevent.

I know many honorable soldiers who I would never question their service, and I wouldn't with John McCain if he weren't inciting hatred and violence with his attack ads.

No disrespect to you Lula.

[BobbyinTN]

Maybe if he had known how to fly a plane without crashing, he wouldn't have been captured. He seem to have a habit of crashing planes and killing innocent people.

He was shot down, moron. Did your semen well run dry or something? You've got your panties in a bunch today, sunshine.

Why are you so concerned with my semen? You curious?

I'm going commando, if that helps your fantasy any.

He was a "Songbird" spilling his guts for oranges, cigarettes and medical treatment.

Here's some more of his flawless record.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmc ... five_u.htm

I used to go commando till I got my nuts stuck in the zipper, buy some panties, take care of your shit

Sounds to me like your wearing your balls too high. Adjust them a little. Maybe that's why you sing soprano.

[Lula]

I am NOT a McCain fan. You're right he shouldn't have been allowed to fly. If it wasn't for his father he would've never passed. Also, Palin is NOT a bitch. The candidate you were supporting, Hillary, is the bitch with a capital C. Also, Michelle Obama fits that description.

Hey bitch, Hillary IS indeed a bitch, a very educated, smart and sassy one who kicks ass. I bet you Hillary can tell you what newspapers she has read and that Alaska is not our last bastion of defense against Russia, lol.

Hillary would crush Palin in any debate or campaign, and youknow it. Sadly, I think good ol Sarah's national political career is history in 3 weeks, and her gubernatorial one may be over as well.

Now tell me how in the Hell Michelle Obama is a bitch? What devious and evil shit has she pulled to earn her that label?

Yes Tito, I did support Hillary and still think she would be a better president than Obama, but hey, that's why they play the games.

[conversationpc]

Hillary would crush Palin in any debate or campaign, and youknow it.

Biden is a good debator and even he couldn't "crush" Palin. Hillary would have no chance of doing it, either.

[BobbyinTN]

I am NOT a McCain fan. You're right he shouldn't have been allowed to fly. If it wasn't for his father he would've never passed. Also, Palin is NOT a bitch. The candidate you were supporting, Hillary, is the bitch with a capital C. Also, Michelle Obama fits that description.

Hey bitch, Hillary IS indeed a bitch, a very educated, smart and sassy one who kicks ass. I bet you Hillary can tell you what newspapers she has read and that Alaska is not our last bastion of defense against Russia, lol.

Hillary would crush Palin in any debate or campaign, and youknow it. Sadly, I think good ol Sarah's national political career is history in 3 weeks, and her gubernatorial one may be over as well.

Now tell me how in the Hell Michelle Obama is a bitch? What devious and evil shit has she pulled to earn her that label?

Yes Tito, I did support Hillary and still think she would be a better president than Obama, but hey, that's why they play the games.

I agree.

Satan Palin is just a ****, with no education and a a hard-on for big guns.

[Lula]

I agree to an extent, but the republicans deserve to get as good as they gave. They tried to discredit John Kerry at every turn, especially making fun of his injuries wearing those purple band-aids. I have no respect for them. As long as they want to bring up Ayers and other things from Obama's past, then every politician's past is relevent.

Dude, NOBODY hates those slimy cocksuckers more than I. I despise all things republican. Fuck, I even now hate elephants, however, as I calm down, it must be said that 527 ads were actually the vehicles for the smear against Kerry, although the usual pieces of shit, Hannity, Beck and Limbfat were cheering them on from the radio and TV booths.

I know many honorable soldiers who I would never question their service, and I wouldn't with John McCain if he weren't inciting hatred and violence with his attack ads.

A good point. Like I said, McCain is diminishing his stored credit of heroism by playing the POW card at every turn and smearing BO at every other. Fuck him.

[Lula]

Hillary would crush Palin in any debate or campaign, and youknow it.

Biden is a good debator and even he couldn't "crush" Palin. Hillary would have no chance of doing it, either.

You stupid bastard, that wasn't a debate. There were no back and forth. That was a structured setting, where she was allowed to give her talking points. And if you could not see that, or you won't admit that, you don't belong in this thread. Now I know you are smarter than this Dave, so cut the dumbshit act. She just gave out robotic answers and sometimes, when she was short on info, she just blurted out Maverick and drill baby drill.

LOL, you can't be this fuckin dumb.