The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[Enigma869]

That's not a maverick. That's a spineless sack of shit.

I'm just pleased to see that a card-carrying Republican has finally figured out how to spell MAVERICK. Every time I see the sign held up at the political rallies, it is always spelled MAVRICK! I realize that not everyone is a great speller (myself included, at times). That said, if you're going to go to a political rally and make these big ass signs, at least take the time to look up the word, to ensure you don't look like a complete jackass, in front of a gazillion people!


John from Boston

[Rhiannon]

in front of a gazillion people!

Typical lib, always exaggerating numbers.

[Skylorde]

Exactly how? I am, by all definitions a true conservative...but I think 95% of the current Republican leadership is completely and utterly shirking their duties. They've allowed this country, it's economy and it's military efforts to be completely destroyed and subverted by under handed agendas.

While I'm not ready to trust Obama either...I feel that a vote for McCain is a mistake. He's a lying sack of shit that has changed his position to suit the political wind more times than I can imagine. That's not a maverick. That's a spineless sack of shit.

Dude you better vote for Obama then or THIS MIGHT HAPPEN! (Pay close attention) LOL

[Tito]

Exactly how? I am, by all definitions a true conservative...but I think 95% of the current Republican leadership is completely and utterly shirking their duties. They've allowed this country, it's economy and it's military efforts to be completely destroyed and subverted by under handed agendas.

While I'm not ready to trust Obama either...I feel that a vote for McCain is a mistake. He's a lying sack of shit that has changed his position to suit the political wind more times than I can imagine. That's not a maverick. That's a spineless sack of shit.

Dude you better vote for Obama then or THIS MIGHT HAPPEN! (Pay close attention) LOL

That is great.

[Skylorde]

Hmmm. Someone just sent this to me. I thought it was bogus at first. Here's the jist of it, then the PDF link below.

MOTION for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Brief in support thereof and Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit, # 2 Exhibit, # 3 Exhibit, # 4 Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP)

Philip J Berg, Esquire
-VS-
Barack Hussein Obama, ET AL

United States District Court
For the Eastern District of Pennsylvania

ORDER ON PLAINTIFF’S MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT
THIS CAUSE came before the United States District Court Judge, Honorable R.
Barclay Surrick on Plaintiff’s Motion for Summary Judgment. Having reviewed the
Motion and any response thereto and for good cause shown, it is hereby
ORDERED that Plaintiff’s Motion for Summary Judgment pursuant to F.R.C.P.
56(c) is GRANTED. This Court Declares Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein
Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry
Soetoro is not a “natural born” or “naturalized” United States citizen and is ineligible to
run for and/or serve as President of the United States. The Democratic National
Committee is hereby enjoined from naming Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the
Democratic Presidential Candidate on the ballot and both the Democratic National
Committee and Barack Hussein Obama, et al are enjoined from any further campaigning
on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama, et al for Office of the Presidency. It is an ORDER
of this Court that Barack Hussein Obama’s, et al name be removed from any and all
ballots for the Office of the President of the United States.
BERG v. OBAMA et al Doc. 27
Dockets


http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/di ... 3/27/0.pdf

[Alex Landenburg]

guess im switching to mccain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPNWT6NxMY

[Rick]

guess im switching to mccain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPNWT6NxMY

That was great.

[Lula]

very cool, regardless of the candidate receiving the votes. i teach u.s. history and have been teaching and holding discussions about the current election and the historical aspect. my students are eating it up, very exciting- they're even getting the opportunity to vote along with other schools in a mock election offered through our sec of state.

Great! I'm sure that's a balanced lecture.

Come on, dude! You don't know how she teaches. I'd expect Lula is non-partisan as far as how she teaches her history class.

thank you dave. i keep my political beliefs out of my teaching. i have presented both candidates and their platforms from lessons that have been sent out to teachers. it is non-partisan in its finest!

and tito if i thought you were worthy, i'd say- bite my ass!

[Lula]

not too difficult to file court papers like a request for summary judgement.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... ficate.asp

[Skylorde]

not too difficult to file court papers like a request for summary judgement.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... ficate.asp

Filing a summary judgment request is easy, getting a summary judgement isn't (I don't think)

Be interesting to see where this goes

[Wildfire]

http://obamacrimes.com/

[nolippin]

Yep, looks like she's going to be the one facing charges now.



http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Blo ... 47628.html

Police: Campaign Worker Admits Making Up Story

A Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Ashley Todd confessed to making up the story & is facing charges
PITTSBURGH (KDKA) ― Police sources tell KDKA that a campaign worker has now confessed to making up a story that a mugger attacked her and cut the letter "B" in her face after seeing her McCain bumper sticker.

Ashley Todd, 20, of Texas, initially told police that she was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield and that the suspect became enraged and started beating her after seeing her GOP sticker on her car.

Police investigating the alleged attack, however, began to notice some inconsistencies in her story and administered a polygraph test.

Authorities, however, declined to release the results of that test.

Investigators did say that they received photos from the ATM machine and "the photographs were verified as not being the victim making the transaction."

This afternoon, a Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Todd confessed to making up the story.

The commander added that Todd will face charges; but police have not commented on what those charges will be.

According to police, investigators working on the interview process detected several inconsistencies in Todd's story that differed from statements made in the original police report.

Pittsburgh Police Public Information Officer Diane Richard released a statement earlier today, saying: "Because of the inconsistencies in her statements, Ms. Todd was asked to submit to a polygraph examination which she agreed to do."

No photos of Todd are being released by Pittsburgh Police at this time.

The investigation is continuing as officials determine what charges will be filed.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D940VEM01&show_article=1


Police: McCain volunteer changes ATM attack story

Oct 24 12:23 PM US/Eastern
7 Comments

PITTSBURGH (AP) - Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who said she was held down by a black man who cut the letter "B" in her face has changed her story.
Police spokeswoman Diane Richard says investigators gave the 20-year-old woman a lie-detector test and are "looking at some inconsistencies" in her story.

The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.

Police say bank surveillance footage doesn't show her at an ATM where she says she was attacked.

Todd, who is white, now says she was knocked unconscious and doesn't remember being cut. She now says she only discovered the wound later.

No arrests have been made.

When I saw the pictures on Drudge, I agreed with everyone else here it sounded like bullsh-t.

[Wildfire]

She is a stupid fool.

Yep, looks like she's going to be the one facing charges now.



http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Blo ... 47628.html

Police: Campaign Worker Admits Making Up Story

A Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Ashley Todd confessed to making up the story & is facing charges
PITTSBURGH (KDKA) ― Police sources tell KDKA that a campaign worker has now confessed to making up a story that a mugger attacked her and cut the letter "B" in her face after seeing her McCain bumper sticker.

Ashley Todd, 20, of Texas, initially told police that she was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield and that the suspect became enraged and started beating her after seeing her GOP sticker on her car.

Police investigating the alleged attack, however, began to notice some inconsistencies in her story and administered a polygraph test.

Authorities, however, declined to release the results of that test.

Investigators did say that they received photos from the ATM machine and "the photographs were verified as not being the victim making the transaction."

This afternoon, a Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Todd confessed to making up the story.

The commander added that Todd will face charges; but police have not commented on what those charges will be.

According to police, investigators working on the interview process detected several inconsistencies in Todd's story that differed from statements made in the original police report.

Pittsburgh Police Public Information Officer Diane Richard released a statement earlier today, saying: "Because of the inconsistencies in her statements, Ms. Todd was asked to submit to a polygraph examination which she agreed to do."

No photos of Todd are being released by Pittsburgh Police at this time.

The investigation is continuing as officials determine what charges will be filed.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D940VEM01&show_article=1


Police: McCain volunteer changes ATM attack story

Oct 24 12:23 PM US/Eastern
7 Comments

PITTSBURGH (AP) - Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who said she was held down by a black man who cut the letter "B" in her face has changed her story.
Police spokeswoman Diane Richard says investigators gave the 20-year-old woman a lie-detector test and are "looking at some inconsistencies" in her story.

The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.

Police say bank surveillance footage doesn't show her at an ATM where she says she was attacked.

Todd, who is white, now says she was knocked unconscious and doesn't remember being cut. She now says she only discovered the wound later.

No arrests have been made.

When I saw the pictures on Drudge, I agreed with everyone else here it sounded like bullsh-t.

[Tito]

very cool, regardless of the candidate receiving the votes. i teach u.s. history and have been teaching and holding discussions about the current election and the historical aspect. my students are eating it up, very exciting- they're even getting the opportunity to vote along with other schools in a mock election offered through our sec of state.

Great! I'm sure that's a balanced lecture.

Come on, dude! You don't know how she teaches. I'd expect Lula is non-partisan as far as how she teaches her history class.

thank you dave. i keep my political beliefs out of my teaching. i have presented both candidates and their platforms from lessons that have been sent out to teachers. it is non-partisan in its finest!

and tito if i thought you were worthy, i'd say- bite my ass!

How are you posting at 10:30 am (your time) if you're at school?

[Saint John]

Yep, looks like she's going to be the one facing charges now.

Let me be the first to say that I believe her to be an Obama supporter that is taking one for the team and this is indeed all planned out. Getting "busted" for the fake story being the whole point. Just a guess on my part, though.

[Tito]

Now there is an idiot blogger who "allegedly" has posted NUDE pictures of Obama's mother. I won't post the link here unless some of you sick fucks really want to see them. (soft core) Or I can PM the link. And No I didn't uncover it and don't even know if it really is his mother, but none the less it's out there.

People are freaky about politics.

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/z ... 24.article

[Lula]

it's my conference period tito. i knew you cared about the inner city school children! i actually have a student teacher in my room today and i am at my desk for the next hour .

so let's talk about my gal palin and how unamerican i am

[Tito]

it's my conference period tito. i knew you cared about the inner city school children! i actually have a student teacher in my room today and i am at my desk for the next hour .

so let's talk about my gal palin and how unamerican i am

Ok. Sorry, I believe you. I thought you were the "other guy."

xoxo,

Tito

[Saint John]

Yep, looks like she's going to be the one facing charges now.

Let me be the first to say that I believe her to be an Obama supporter that is taking one for the team and this is indeed all planned out. Getting "busted" for the fake story being the whole point. Just a guess on my part, though.

Her myspace said she's a Ron Paul person but who the hell knows. She needs to be made an example of either way. This is the kind of shit that can set this Country on fire.

They should carve a real "B" into her face. It could stand for buffoon, bitch, butt ugly, or c-unt.

[Jana]

They're saying she has a history of mental illness. Obviously. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that if someone did that to themselves they have serious problems.

[Tito]

This IS funny.

http://www.break.com/index/unbelievable ... e-off.html

[strangegrey]

That's not a maverick. That's a spineless sack of shit.

I'm just pleased to see that a card-carrying Republican has finally figured out how to spell MAVERICK. Every time I see the sign held up at the political rallies, it is always spelled MAVRICK! I realize that not everyone is a great speller (myself included, at times). That said, if you're going to go to a political rally and make these big ass signs, at least take the time to look up the word, to ensure you don't look like a complete jackass, in front of a gazillion people!


John from Boston

Yeah, I was cringing, while I was watching the Republican National Convention. The signs displaying "Mavrick" were really embarassing. I mean, holy crap...if you're going to display a sign on TV...fucking spell it right.

Ironically, most of the signs you see at a Palin and McCain rally these days are actually given to people entering the hall, arena or area. They dont let you bring in your own signs....they actually have people on staff making these fucking things and handing them to people. If that isn't a wasted pile of resources, I can't tell you what is.

Anyway, to that end, when you see a Hayseed yokel holding up a sign spelling "Mavrick," there's a damn good chance he snuck it into the place...

[The_Noble_Cause]

You discredit Conservative sources when the point of view is contrary to yours yet you credit them when it works in your favor. You can't have it both ways, pick one.

Last I checked, there's nothing Conservative about a Rasmussen poll.
World Net Daily, like other media outlets, just happened to be citing it.
If it was a World Net Daily conducted poll, you'd have a good point.

And the talking head's on the left never lie? Olbermann never lies?

To the same extent of the Hannitys and the Limbaughs of the world? - I say no, but the Doctrine never applied to cable, so I fail to see the pont.
If you want some sort of equal-time rule for cable go ahead and propose it.

How Constitutional of you. I guess that statement alone about sums you up 'eh? Giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming you made that statement in sarcasm (which I don't think you did), I'm fairly certain you wouldn't be leading the charge to protect Beck's freedom of speech if it came down to him getting "thrown off the air"

Correct.

I can't stand Olbermann and frankly pounding nails through my cock with a framing hammer would be more entertaining than suffering through his hour of diarrhea. That being said, I would never advocate "throwing him off the air". I guess I'm one of the minority who still cling to the principles of that "pain in the Liberals ass" document called the Constitution.

Olbermann isn't on the public airwaves.
Besides, most of the right wing ire is pointed at his closing editorials, which is distinct and separate from making up facts out of whole cloth.

Why don't you stop pretending and just admit you'd be gleefully happy abandoning the Constitution in favor of a Chavez or Jong-il style government?

The Doctrine was perfectly constitutional from 1949 until 1987.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Then again TNC gave them a nod so maybe they aren't a bunch of lying right wing SOB's afterall?

Depends on the source. WND is basically a clearinghouse of syndicated rightwing writers, some more valid than others.
Besides, unlike other media, internet is as close as we've got to an equal playing field.

Dude, everyone knows Ayres "never really meant all those things" and his statements have been "blown completely out of context" by the right wing attack dogs.

Really, he's an upstanding citizen everyone should aspire to be like.

Again, this article is talking about stuff from 1969.
Doesn't alleviate his crimes, but people change, move on etc.

[Skylorde]

To the same extent of the Hannitys and the Limbaughs of the world? - I say no, but the Doctrine never applied to cable, so I fail to see the pont. If you want some sort of equal-time rule for cable go ahead and propose it.

I'm not defending Hannity & Limbaugh and you side stepped the point with semantics so let me rephrase; do you really think Randi Rhodes, for example, doesn't lie?

Besides, most of the right wing ire is pointed at his closing editorials

Stupidity & absurdity invites mockery. Olbermann should follow Mark Twain's advice.

The Doctrine was perfectly constitutional from 1949 until 1987.

Hmmm. In checking the Constitution, I must have missed the "talk radio" exclusion for freedom of speech. Just because something is law does not make it Constitutional. Just ask the queens in your party how they feel about any laws banning gay marriage. Slavery was Constitutional at one time too, why don't you make the same argument?

Again, this article is talking about stuff from 1969. Doesn't alleviate his crimes, but people change, move on etc.

I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough. -- Bill Ayres, NY Times article headlined "No Regrets for a Love of Explosives.", 9-11-2001
Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it's a great country. -- Bill Ayres, NY Times, 9-11-2001
I can't imagine entirely dismissing the possibility -- Bill Ayres (in reference to ever using bombs again in the book "Fugitive Days")

Sounds like a changed man, a man who's moved on!

[Enigma869]

Former Pennsylvania governor and homeland security secretary Tom Ridge said today that the race would be different if McCain had chosen him as his running mate, instead of Sarah Palin.



http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2 ... rah-palin/


John from Boston

[Don]

Former Bush White House press secretary Scott McClellan and Republican Minnesota Governor Arne Carlson are endorsing Obama, if anyone cares.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm not defending Hannity & Limbaugh and you side stepped the point with semantics so let me rephrase; do you really think Randi Rhodes, for example, doesn't lie?

Since the Doctrine is applicable to all, I fail to see what you're driving at.
Does she lie to the same mendacious lengths of Limbaugh, whose stock in trade is 99% fact-free bullshit?
From what I've heard, I'd say no, but lies are bound to happen in any live medium.

Stupidity & absurdity invites mockery. Olbermann should follow Mark Twain's advice.

Like satellite being out of the censorship reach of the FCC, cable wouldn't be covered by the Doctrine.
It's a public airwaves thing.
So what does Olbermann have to do with anything?

Hmmm. In checking the Constitution, I must have missed the "talk radio" exclusion for freedom of speech. Just because something is law does not make it Constitutional. Just ask the queens in your party how they feel about any laws banning gay marriage. Slavery was Constitutional at one time too, why don't you make the same argument?

Yeh, i'm sure that's exactly what Reagan had in mind when he repealed it.
Why, he was concerned about ensuring the future health of this country's civic dialogue, of course!
There is less "free speech" as a result of the Doctrine being overturned, not more.
Like the FCC's current efforts to allow newspapers and broadcasters to merge, the decision was all about profit$.

I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough. -- Bill Ayres, NY Times article headlined "No Regrets for a Love of Explosives.", 9-11-2001
Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it's a great country. -- Bill Ayres, NY Times, 9-11-2001
I can't imagine entirely dismissing the possibility -- Bill Ayres (in reference to ever using bombs again in the book "Fugitive Days")

Sounds like a changed man, a man who's moved on!

Some of these are out of context, some aren't.
I'm not gonna go through it again, I just think we should interview his students before casting judgement.

[RedWingFan]

Former Pennsylvania governor and homeland security secretary Tom Ridge said today that the race would be different if McCain had chosen him as his running mate, instead of Sarah Palin.



http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2 ... rah-palin/


John from Boston

Yeah, it would have been different. I wouldn't be voting for McCain.

[Enigma869]

Yeah, it would have been different. I wouldn't be voting for McCain.

I'm sure that your vote will catapult the old fuck to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue! I'm just happy to not have to look at Puppet Palin two weeks from now!


John from Boston