The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

by **treetopovskaya** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:35 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 67_pf.html

by **Lula** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:43 am

are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother? :oops:

by **Skylorde** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:43 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Does she lie to the same mendacious lengths of Limbaugh, whose stock in trade is 99% fact-free bullshit?
From what I've heard, I'd say no, but lies are bound to happen in any live medium.

If she lies and what she lies about is solely up to the listener to decide. Same goes for Limbaugh. Given that, we'll never agree. You still cling to the false hope America's salvation is with the Democrats whereas I realized years ago neither party have the best interests of the American people. It's all about power, corruption and staying in office. Feel free to keep on believing your talking heads are "less corrupted" and "Less dishonest". You'll wake up one day. Nah fuck it, you probably won't.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:So what does Olbermann have to do with anything?

I used Olbermann to point out the talking heads on the left are just as dishonest as the right. Somewhat out of context though as we were discussing radio, hence the reason I subsequently used Randi Rhodes for contextual purposes.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:There is less "free speech" as a result of the Doctrine being overturned, not more.
Like the FCC's current efforts to allow newspapers and broadcasters to merge, the decision was all about profit$.

We'll never agree on this point.

The_Noble_Cause wrote: Some of these are out of context, some aren't.
I'm not gonna go through it again, I just think we should interview his students before casting judgement.

Any attempted defense of Ayres is in-defensible. Although I'm not of the school (Ayres = Terrorist ; Ayres knows Obama; Obama = Terrorist), Ayres back pedaled and "rephrased" his comments after the NY Times article was published and with good reason; it was published on morning of 9/11/2001. If he had a fuckin spine, he would have stood by his comments. I'm fairly certain he was feeling a bit uncomfortable considering he was, in effect, bragging about being a terrorist on the day of worst attack on American soil.

One last thing. Ayres has never, ever come out and said "I'm sorry", "I was wrong", "I made a mistake", etc, etc. That simple fact, without considering ANYTHING else, proves he hasn't changed at all. He's still the communist loving Marxist he was 40 years ago and would happily applaud the destruction of the Republic.

by **Rick** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:45 am

Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

I know nothing of which you speak. Please, please enlighten.

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:50 am

Democrats are pussies.

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:52 am

Rick wrote:
Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

I know nothing of which you speak. Please, please enlighten.

The 911 operator was Bill Ayers brother. Which now links Ayers to McCain. A complete and thorough anal exam of McCain and his brother is already underway by the media. Look for front page above the fold stories on this through election day.

by **Lula** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:52 am

Saint John wrote:Democrats are pussies.

bite my ass!! :evil:

here ya go rick-

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedish ... ns-br.html

http://www.news8.net/news/stories/1008/563913.html

by **Rick** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:53 am

Saint John wrote:Democrats are pussies.

Eat me.

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:54 am

RedWingFan wrote:A complete and thorough anal exam of McCain and his brother

Obama wins and that might be common-place. :lol:

by **S2M** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:54 am

This thread should have been pulled weeks ago....nothing new here. Just more of the same assinine drivel. Everyone is an political expert today.... :lol:

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:54 am

Lula wrote:
Saint John wrote:Democrats are pussies.

bite my ass!!

here ya go rick-

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedish ... ns-br.html

http://www.news8.net/news/stories/1008/563913.html

Yeah, he should have just blown up the 911 dispatch and everything would be cool. :lol:

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:54 am

Lula wrote:bite my ass!!

With all due respect to Dean...

by **Enigma869** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:55 am

Saint John wrote:Democrats are pussies.

Rick wrote:Eat me.

Isn't that what, um....oh, never mind :shock:

John from Boston

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:56 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Saint John wrote:Democrats are pussies.

Rick wrote:Eat me.

Isn't that what, um....oh, never mind

John from Boston

lol, John. :lol:

by **Rick** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:58 am

Lula wrote:
Saint John wrote:Democrats are pussies.

bite my ass!!

here ya go rick-

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedish ... ns-br.html

http://www.news8.net/news/stories/1008/563913.html

I wouldn't want to be Joe McCain right about now. :lol:

by **Saint John** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:05 am

Rick wrote:I wouldn't want to be Joe McCain right about now.

I wouldn't ever wanna be John McCain...unless he gets to watch Sarah Palin change into that $150,000 wardrobe!!! Sorry, Todd. :lol:

Go snowmobiling you drunk fuck. :lol:

Yes, I'm hammered.

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:12 am

Fact Finder wrote:What's the square root of 69?

What is it?

by **Rick** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:12 am

Fact Finder wrote:What's the square root of 69?

8.3066238629180748525842627449075

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:14 am

Skylorde wrote:If she lies and what she lies about is solely up to the listener to decide. Same goes for Limbaugh.

The Doctrine gives parties a right to respond. When and by whom, remains to be decided.
It's not the movie "Airheads" where the rabble hijacks a radio station.

Skylorde wrote:You still cling to the false hope America's salvation is with the Democrats whereas I realized years ago neither party have the best interests of the American people. It's all about power, corruption and staying in office.

We live in a country that has a two party system. If you don't favor the one, you favor the other, if only by default.
Nowhere have I said the Democrats are the answer, but until election reform, third parties are a waste of time.

Skylorde wrote:Feel free to keep on believing your talking heads are "less corrupted" and "Less dishonest".

And aside from Olbermann, who might they be again?

Skylorde wrote:Any attempted defense of Ayres is in-defensible. Although I'm not of the school (Ayres = Terrorist ; Ayres knows Obama; Obama = Terrorist), Ayres back pedaled and "rephrased" his comments after the NY Times article was published and with good reason; it was published on morning of 9/11/2001. If he had a fuckin spine, he would have stood by his comments. I'm fairly certain he was feeling a bit uncomfortable considering he was, in effect, bragging about being a terrorist on the day of worst attack on American soil.

I know nothing about him rephrasing his statements.
He did say he was taken out of context, but whether that's true or false doesn't matter.
Any one-dimensional monstrification of a private citizen should be cautioned against - especially when the crimes at issue happened four decades ago.

Skylorde wrote:One last thing. Ayres has never, ever come out and said "I'm sorry", "I was wrong", "I made a mistake", etc, etc. That simple fact, without considering ANYTHING else, proves he hasn't changed at all. He's still the communist loving Marxist he was 40 years ago and would happily applaud the destruction of the Republic.

Maybe, maybe not.
This public demand for an apology didn't exist until he became an unwitting centerpiece in a political campaign.
The man is an educator, is extensively published, and has been recognized by his community for his accomplishments.
This is not to grant him absolution, but to keep saying Barack HUSSEIN Obama "palls around with a terrorist" distorts reality, and is extremely dangerous.
If the continual Boo Radley demonization of Ayers doesn't end in spilt blood, I will be greatly surprised.

by **treetopovskaya** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:18 am

this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:19 am

Girl, you know your "yucks" are in the process of blowing a 4 goal 3rd period lead right?

treetopovskaya wrote:this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

by **treetopovskaya** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:21 am

8.3

Fact Finder wrote:What's the square root of 69?

by **treetopovskaya** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:22 am

see what happens when i get worked up???

thanks a lot dean you asshole!!

RedWingFan wrote:Girl, you know your "yucks" are in the process of blowing a 4 goal 3rd period lead right?
treetopovskaya wrote:this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:24 am

How come you gotta call me Dean?

treetopovskaya wrote:see what happens when i get worked up???

thanks a lot dean you asshole!!

RedWingFan wrote:Girl, you know your "yucks" are in the process of blowing a 4 goal 3rd period lead right?
treetopovskaya wrote:this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

by **Lula** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:25 am

treetopovskaya wrote:this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

not necessarily news, just another comical day on the campaign trail. tho i have to say it really pisses me off when people call 911 for non emergencies, nothing funny there.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:30 am

treetopovskaya wrote:this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

'Cuz it's a Presidential candidate's brother.
First McCain's bro comicly blasted parts of Va as "communist country" and now he calls 9-1-1 to bitch about a traffic jam and then proceeds to tell the operator "fuck you."
But hey, at least he didn't call her a See you Next Tuesday. :wink:

by **treetopovskaya** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:32 am

what does this have to do with the campaign? so mac may have a crazy relative... who doesn't?

this is tabloid crap... not too unlike the lib media.

Lula wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

Lula wrote:are we gonna discuss the 911 call from joe, mccain's brother?

not necessarily news, just another comical day on the campaign trail. tho i have to say it really pisses me off when people call 911 for non emergencies, nothing funny there.

by **treetopovskaya** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:37 am

weak & getting weaker.

you libs are just proving to all just how pathetic you are.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:this is news why?

how far will you grasp?

*rolls eyes*

'Cuz it's a Presidential candidate's brother.
First McCain's bro comicly blasted parts of Va as "communist country" and now he calls 9-1-1 to bitch about a traffic jam and then proceeds to tell the operator "fuck you."
But hey, at least he didn't call her a See you Next Tuesday.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:38 am

treetopovskaya wrote:what does this have to do with the campaign? so mac may have a crazy relative... who doesn't?

this is tabloid crap... not too unlike the lib media.

So charity panel members and pastors are fair game, but not immediate blood relatives?
Wha?

by **treetopovskaya** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:40 am

he's not damning america or bombing the pentagon. see the difference?

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:what does this have to do with the campaign? so mac may have a crazy relative... who doesn't?

this is tabloid crap... not too unlike the lib media.

So charity panel members and pastors are fair game, but not immediate blood relatives?
Wha?

MR

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