The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[scarygirl]

Boy gets shocked stealing McCain campaign sign:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politi ... shock.wral

ROFL!

Finally! A campaign sign that means BUSINESS!! An Obama sign would have offerED the boy tea, bisquits and a free/not so free health insurance voucher.

[Lula]

OBAMA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and you sir are a poopie head

[Lula]

PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup polling in October finds little evidence of a surge in young voter turnout beyond what it was in 2004. While young voter registration may be up slightly over 2004, the reported level of interest in the election and intention to vote among those under 30 are no higher than they were that year.

and gallop now has obama 51 mccain 43

[7 Wishes]

It's just some dumbed up poll. Don't mean nothing.

Hmmm...it is a composite poll of tens of thousands of people across the country...

[The_Noble_Cause]

TNC, I dunno man. While you can certainly make an argument that *some* of Bush's stances fall in line with party doctrine...Bush has bucked against the mainstream conservative/republican party considerably over the past 8 years. I still feel that some of Bush's efforts have undermined the republican party to act as one unit...

I was only discussing one conservative article of faith held by this administration - slashing consumer safety standards and ennvironmental protections - which happens EVERY time a Conservative rises to the highest office (contrary to what Dave thinks).

However, come to think of it, I would say Bush has been a faithful disciple of Reagan Conservatism on almost every level.
Contrary to the "Great Communicator" revisionist white-washing, it's worth noting Reagan's poll numbers were on the decline on the way out as well.

Red Wing is ahead of everyone here by starting the canonizing of this administration early.

[Rhiannon]

OBAMA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and you sir are a poopie head

I <3 Lula.

[bluejeangirl76]

It's just some dumbed up poll. Don't mean nothing.

Hmmm...it is a composite poll of tens of thousands of people across the country...

Then they must have just polled all the dumb people.

I followed that same election dashboard all the way through the primaries and I used the yahoo election map in 2004. It was right every time.

This horsecrap can wait... its halloween night people!! Go party. I'mma gonna.

[conversationpc]

I was only discussing one conservative article of faith held by this administration - slashing consumer safety standards and ennvironmental protections - which happens EVERY time a Conservative rises to the highest office (contrary to what Dave thinks).

I don't believe that I've ever discussed consumer safety standards OR environmental protections on this board.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I don't believe that I've ever discussed consumer safety standards OR environmental protections on this board.

No sooner had I posted a link about consumer safety standards being cut by Bush, you chided me that Bush was a Republican and NOT a Conservative.
As if the market-knows-all orthodoxy hasn't infected both equally.
Cut the shit.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... ly#4208208

[The_Noble_Cause]

Interesting case but I'm certain it's going to go nowhere...

Supremes asked to halt Tuesday's vote
Constitutional crisis feared over Obama's 'qualifications'
Posted: October 30, 2008
11:00 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

The U.S. Supreme Court is being asked to help the nation avoid a constitutional crisis by halting Tuesday's election until Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama documents his eligibility to run for the top office in the nation.

Democratic attorney
Philip Berg had filed a lawsuit alleging Obama is ineligible to be president because of possible birth in Kenya, but as WND reported, a federal judge dismissed the complaint claiming Berg lacks standing to bring the action.

The 34-page memorandum that accompanied the court order from Judge R. Barclay Surrick concluded ordinary citizens can't sue to ensure that a presidential candidate actually meets the constitutional requirements of the office.

Instead, Surrick said Congress could determine "that citizens, voters, or party members
should police the Constitution's eligibility requirements for the Presidency," but that it would take new laws to grant individual citizens that ability.

"Until that time," Surrick says, "voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring."

Berg has maintained that uncertainty about how the U.S. does enforce the requirements of presidency may result in a constitutional crisis should an ineligible candidate win the office.

In a statement today, Berg said he is applying to Justice David Souter for an "Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of November 4, 2008."

"I am hopeful that the U.S. Supreme Court will grant the injunction pending a review of this case to avoid a constitutional crisis by insisting that Obama produce certified documentation that he is or is not a "natural born" citizen and if he cannot produce documentation that Obama be removed from the ballot for president," Berg said.

"We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking the office of the presidency of the United States," Berg said.

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The issue of Obama's eligibility first got traction among Internet bloggers and later was heightened when several campaigns were launched to determine whether a "certificate of live birth" posted on the Internet by the Obama campaign was valid.

The issue gained more attention when Berg told radio talk show icon Michael Savage he had an admission from Obama's grandmather that she was at his birth – in Kenya.

"This is a question of who has standing to stand up for our Constitution," Berg told Jeff Schreiber of America's Right blog. "If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to ask whether or not the likely next president of the United States – the most powerful man in the entire world – is eligible to be in that office in the first place, then who does?"

As WND reported, Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August, alleging Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to serve as president of the United States. Berg demanded that Obama provide documentation to the court to verify that the candidate was born in Hawaii, as Obama contends, and not in Kenya, as Berg believes.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=79519

It's already been confirmed that Obama, like other candidates, is getting intelligence briefings.
I'd like to think the FBI would have already looked into this if legit.
Berg also sued Bush for 9-11 or something right?

[conversationpc]

No sooner had I posted a link about consumer safety standards being cut by Bush, you chided me that Bush was a Republican and NOT a Conservative.
As if the market-knows-all orthodoxy hasn't infected both equally.
Cut the shit.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... ly#4208208

OK...I remember saying that. I still stand by that statement also. He's not the conservative he claimed to be initially. Far from it. Regardless, take your own advice. You've got more shit than anyone else here to cut.

[The_Noble_Cause]

OK...I remember saying that. I still stand by that statement also. He's not the conservative he claimed to be initially. Far from it.

That wasn't even the topic of discussion.
If you're just gonna play the role of knee-jerk iconoclast spare me the trouble.

[conversationpc]

That wasn't even the topic of discussion.
If you're just gonna play the role of knee-jerk iconoclast spare me the trouble.

I'm not talking about what the topic of discussion was at that time, you moron. Grow a brain stem.

[Onestepper]

That wasn't even the topic of discussion.
If you're just gonna play the role of knee-jerk iconoclast spare me the trouble.

I'm not talking about what the topic of discussion was at that time, you moron. Grow a brain stem.

He can't. He's too busy looking up words in the thesaurus to use in his nonsensical posts. I'd just move on.

[conversationpc]

That wasn't even the topic of discussion.
If you're just gonna play the role of knee-jerk iconoclast spare me the trouble.

I'm not talking about what the topic of discussion was at that time, you moron. Grow a brain stem.

He can't. He's too busy looking up words in the thesaurus to use in his nonsensical posts. I'd just move on.

That reminds me of the scene in "Wayne's World" where Alice Cooper engages in an "intellectual" conversation backstage with Wayne and Garth. Love that scene.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm not talking about what the topic of discussion was at that time, you moron. Grow a brain stem.

Your claim about Bush not being a Conservative was made in response to my post, which concerned Bush's attempt to overturn consumer protections.
Anything not relating to that, I do not give a tinker's fuck.

Your monday morning guilt complex is eight years late and two elections short.
He is your candidate. Own him.

[conversationpc]

Your claim about Bush not being a Conservative was made in response to my post, which concerned Bush's attempt to overturn consumer protections.

Duhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Anything not relating to that, I do not give a tinker's fuck.

Nor do I.

Your monday morning guilt complex is eight years late and two elections short.
He is your candidate. Own him.

You have about as much talent at psychoanalyzing as you do discussing politics and that isn't saying much. I have no guilt over voting for Bush other than the fact that I wish there would've been a better candidate out there at the time. Ever voted for someone who turned out to not be what they claimed to be?

[The_Noble_Cause]

He can't. He's too busy looking up words in the thesaurus to use in his nonsensical posts. I'd just move on.

You're right.
Education is for latte drinking prissys.
If only I had learned a trade like plumbing, instead of pouring over all those textbooks, perhaps then I'd be a shoo-in for the hall of great Conservative thinkers.
I don't try to sound smart any more than I lie to advance a political agenda.
If you find yourself getting lost, that's simply cyber darwinism weeding the undesirables out of the MR gene pool.

[conversationpc]

He can't. He's too busy looking up words in the thesaurus to use in his nonsensical posts. I'd just move on.

You're right.
Education is for latte drinking prissys.
If only I had learned a trade like plumbing, instead of pouring over all those textbooks, perhaps then I'd be a shoo-in for the hall of great Conservative thinkers.
I don't try to sound smart any more than I lie to advance a political agenda.

If you're so educated, then please try forming actual paragraphs and spelling correctly for a change. Otherwise, shut the piehole about how educated you are compared to others here.

By the way, what lofty trade hast thou gainfully applied thyself to so that we may pontificate upon how great and mighty thou art?

If you find yourself getting lost, that's simply cyber darwinism weeding the undesirables out of the MR gene pool.

You might want to wade over from the shallow end there, sir. Be careful not to clothesline yourself on the divider rope and don't bring the rubber ducky with you.

[ProgRocker53]

Dave is my hero.

[conversationpc]

Dave is my hero.

Smoking a toke right now, eh?

[Saint John]

Some good back and forth going on in here. I suspect TNC will come back with a haymaker of his own.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Your claim about Bush not being a Conservative was made in response to my post, which concerned Bush's attempt to overturn consumer protections.

Duhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Well, again, like I said, this stuff happens everytime a Conservative/Republican president is elected.
Any attempts to distinguish Republicanism from Conservatism insofar as slashing consumer protections is concerned is totally disingenuous on your part.
That, or you simply don't know what you're supporting.

Ever voted for someone who turned out to not be what they claimed to be?

Nothing to the landscape altering lengths of these past 8 years, no.
We're all huddled around flaming trash cans, rationing ladles of stone soup, and yet still the Republicans want to have a say.
You all need to shut the fuck up and relinquish the wheel.

[7 Wishes]

If you find yourself getting lost, that's simply cyber darwinism weeding the undesirables out of the MR gene pool.

No offense, Dave, but that is, unequivocally the most brilliant one-liner in the history of this forum.

[Saint John]

If you find yourself getting lost, that's simply cyber darwinism weeding the undesirables out of the MR gene pool.

No offense, Dave, but that is, unequivocally the most brilliant one-liner in the history of this forum.

Dave's comeback was pretty fuckig good, dude!!!

"You might want to wade over from the shallow end there, sir. Be careful not to clothesline yourself on the divider rope and don't bring the rubber ducky with you."

[7 Wishes]

Granted...it was.

What's the beer count up to tonight, Dan? I'm working on my fourth Franzeskahner.

[Saint John]

Granted...it was.

What's the beer count up to tonight, Dan? I'm working on my fourth Franzeskahner.

Zero beers. I was in the fucking Emergency Room for 3 hours today. I stepped on a piece of metal at work and the fuckin' thing went through my boot and about 3 inches into my foot. Damn thing almost came out of the top of my foot. Hurts like hell. The worse part was taking 5 fucking x-rays, a tetnis shot (it's starting to hurt like hell), a drug test, alcohol test and filling out 7,593 pieces of paperwork. Now I'm on penicillin for 10 days. I've only been drinking once or twice a month anyway.

[7 Wishes]

Shit, dude. Ouch! WTF!

[conversationpc]

If you find yourself getting lost, that's simply cyber darwinism weeding the undesirables out of the MR gene pool.

No offense, Dave, but that is, unequivocally the most brilliant one-liner in the history of this forum.

It wasn't directed at me but anyway...No doubt...Good enough for me to ride on its coattails.

[conversationpc]

Granted...it was.

What's the beer count up to tonight, Dan? I'm working on my fourth Franzeskahner.

Zero beers. I was in the fucking Emergency Room for 3 hours today. I stepped on a piece of metal at work and the fuckin' thing went through my boot and about 3 inches into my foot. Damn thing almost came out of the top of my foot. Hurts like hell. The worse part was taking 5 fucking x-rays, a tetnis shot (it's starting to hurt like hell), a drug test, alcohol test and filling out 7,593 pieces of paperwork. Now I'm on penicillin for 10 days. I've only been drinking once or twice a month anyway.

Dang! No beer here, unfortunately. I do have two bottles of Jim Beam, though I'm not a big fan.