Classic Rock Radio switching out JOURNEY GH for NEW !

[DrFU]

yeah, but he smelled good...

some of the fans in line to take pics were joking that they must've pulled the guy who mows the grass at the venue in to stand in since NS couldn't make it

I just now realized that Arnel was in your picture. I honestly thought it was a chick I'm starting to have flashbacks of Augeri wearing his wife's white blouse Schon should stand near Arnel more often...He looks like a giant


John from Boston

Well, SP wore Sherri's leopard print blouse ... maybe it is a legacy thing?

Here's the whole pic:

[donnaplease]

oh well i think sp die hard fans must move on.. lets enjoy the new and fresh journey music....

YOU might want to add a few more posts to your count before you start telling the diehard fans to move on.

[Enigma869]

oh well i think sp die hard fans must move on.. lets enjoy the new and fresh journey music....

Dude...show a little repect. If not for Perry, you wouldn't be on a Journey board, shooting your pie hole off!


John from Boston

[Sarah]

I've heard Never Walk Away on the radio once and After All These Years exactly zero times.

I heard AATY once but that's all. I don't listen to the radio much so it was a huge coincidence that I heard it at all...

[AlienC]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band.

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Agreed. I was telling my pd about this and he absolutely laughed his ass off and said, "NO, way in hell....EVER" and then of course added, "Especially, Journey!" lmao!!

YEah, right. That changes 2 seconds after his boss calls and tells him to do otherwise.
There is no such thing as "integrity"in RADIO, who you trying to kid?

[Angiekay]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band.

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Agreed. I was telling my pd about this and he absolutely laughed his ass off and said, "NO, way in hell....EVER" and then of course added, "Especially, Journey!" lmao!!

YEah, right. That changes 2 seconds after his boss calls and tells him to do otherwise.
There is no such thing as "integrity"in RADIO, who you trying to kid?

Integrity would be playing the ORGINALS not something trying to pass for something else. I can guarentee you IF our "boss" DID have a say in what we play, she(yes, I said SHE)would put the stops on this impersonating in the first place.

Since you *seem* to know so much about radio I'll tell you in our "corporate world" of 700 stations we are top ten billing in an unrated market. They don't tell us shit.

[Rick]

They played a Journey song. It was by Journey. Anyone think I'm not making sense here?

[DrFU]

They played a Journey song. It was by Journey. Anyone think I'm not making sense here?

jet fuel fumes musta got to ya...

[DSHinMICH]

They played a Journey song. It was by Journey. Anyone think I'm not making sense here?

Huh?

[wednesday's child]

They played a Journey song. It was by Journey. Anyone think I'm not making sense here?

You know, when stuff starts making sense around here, I'm bailing out.

-wech

[Don]

They played a Journey song. It was by Journey. Anyone think I'm not making sense here?

I read you Rick, loud and clear.

[venomnation]

:shock:
Seriously, today I was listening to 96.9 The Eagle in Sacramento and they played an Arnel Version and just called it "JOURNEY" with no addendum during the song ID.
Believe me , I know the difference between an Original Version and an Arnel Version, and it was spooky how close it was.
Anyone else hear a new version played on radio?

Consistently. And the bad part is, people here DON'T know the difference. And what's worse, the DJ does...because the other day I was IN that studio with that DJ...who was taking "Rock Requests at Lunch" and they asked for Journey...and he DELIBERATELY mislead the caller - and they called back on teh break and went "you gotta tell me how to get that remaster...it sounds so fresh and new!"

[NoMoreTails]

I talked to my Mom (who lives in SW Virgina) on the phone yesterday and she was talking about hearing "Never Walk Away" on the rock stations out of Johnson City, TN and also on WROV out of Jeremey's homebase in Roanoke.

Yes, WQUT here in NE TN, I've heard them play it several times, surprising as I rarely listen to the radio.

[JrnyScarab]

and they called back on teh break and went "you gotta tell me how to get that remaster...it sounds so fresh and new!"

Remaster! LOL .

The other day I took my son to the Orthopedic Center to have a cast put on his broken hand. All of a sudden I noticed they were playing AATY through their music system. Don't know if it was a radio station or some kind of purchased loop like the supermarkets but it was pretty cool to hear!

[donnaplease]

This kinda pisses me off, because I was coming home from work this morning, and DSB came on the radio (XM). I had to pay special attention to the song to see if it was someone other than SP singing it. The fact that I have to THINK about it instead of just letting it move me totally ruins it for me.

I heard AATY for the first time on my favorite local station (classic/soft rock) that tends to play Journey and Steve Perry several times throughout the day. Before I realized what the song was, my first thought was "hey, that kinda sounds like Steve Perry"...

[separate_wayz]

This kinda pisses me off, because I was coming home from work this morning, and DSB came on the radio (XM). I had to pay special attention to the song to see if it was someone other than SP singing it. The fact that I have to THINK about it instead of just letting it move me totally ruins it for me.

I heard AATY for the first time on my favorite local station (classic/soft rock) that tends to play Journey and Steve Perry several times throughout the day. Before I realized what the song was, my first thought was "hey, that kinda sounds like Steve Perry"...

So why not just let the music move you? Why think (and worry) about whether a particular song is SP or AP? And if you have to THINK about it, doesn't that say something about how similar some of the originals and re-records actually are?

Personally, I like a number of the re-records. I think they sound fresh yet retain the best of what's familiar and enjoyable about the originals. When I have 'Revelation" (both discs) and GH in my car CD player, I'll now choose a number of the re-records over the originals. (The exceptions are "Separate Ways" and "Faithfully".)

A comment (and analogy) was made about "rebuilding the Sistine Chapel". I suppose that's the point. If you view the originals (and SP's tenure with Journey) as a pseudo-religious experience, then anything other than that strikes you as blasphemy .......

[RobbieG]

This kinda pisses me off, because I was coming home from work this morning, and DSB came on the radio (XM). I had to pay special attention to the song to see if it was someone other than SP singing it. The fact that I have to THINK about it instead of just letting it move me totally ruins it for me.

I heard AATY for the first time on my favorite local station (classic/soft rock) that tends to play Journey and Steve Perry several times throughout the day. Before I realized what the song was, my first thought was "hey, that kinda sounds like Steve Perry"...

So why not just let the music move you? Why think (and worry) about whether a particular song is SP or AP? And if you have to THINK about it, doesn't that say something about how similar some of the originals and re-records actually are?

Personally, I like a number of the re-records. I think they sound fresh yet retain the best of what's familiar and enjoyable about the originals. When I have 'Revelation" (both discs) and GH in my car CD player, I'll now choose a number of the re-records over the originals. (The exceptions are "Separate Ways" and "Faithfully".)

A comment (and analogy) was made about "rebuilding the Sistine Chapel". I suppose that's the point. If you view the originals (and SP's tenure with Journey) as a pseudo-religious experience, then anything other than that strikes you as blasphemy .......

great post I agree 100%. It's about the music.

[donnaplease]

So why not just let the music move you? Why think (and worry) about whether a particular song is SP or AP? And if you have to THINK about it, doesn't that say something about how similar some of the originals and re-records actually are?

It does, and that's why I said this:

Before I realized what the song was, my first thought was "hey, that kinda sounds like Steve Perry"...

If you view the originals (and SP's tenure with Journey) as a pseudo-religious experience, then anything other than that strikes you as blasphemy .......

I do, and so do many others. That's why this music has stood the test of time. So yourself. Perhaps if you can let the legacy go so easily, it was never about the music for you...

They don't call me a LOON for nuttin'! I wear it as a badge of honor.

[tammy]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band. Listen, I like Arnel, a lot. The fucking dude can sing his ass off. That said, his re-records are simply NOT better than the originals, period, end of story. We have some delusional yahoos on message boards who think Arnel is Perry, resurrected He isn't! He's an immensely talented vocalist who does a very good job, singing the Journey classics.

I actually have a lot of respect for Arnel's talent. The guy is singing songs, in a language that isn't even his own, and I'm not sure many of us can appreciate just how arduous of a task that is. I took Spanish for 4 freakin' years in high school, and came out of it with "No Habla Espanol"

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Exactly! I think AP has an amazing voice, and, I like the NEW songs, but replacing the original Classics is absurd! If I hear a re-record (so far, I've only heard "After All These Years" on KOST soft rock once) I am definitely gonna call that station and give my 2 cents! C'mon, WTH? Why is this necessary?

[RobbieG]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band. Listen, I like Arnel, a lot. The fucking dude can sing his ass off. That said, his re-records are simply NOT better than the originals, period, end of story. We have some delusional yahoos on message boards who think Arnel is Perry, resurrected He isn't! He's an immensely talented vocalist who does a very good job, singing the Journey classics.

I actually have a lot of respect for Arnel's talent. The guy is singing songs, in a language that isn't even his own, and I'm not sure many of us can appreciate just how arduous of a task that is. I took Spanish for 4 freakin' years in high school, and came out of it with "No Habla Espanol"

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Exactly! I think AP has an amazing voice, and, I like the NEW songs, but replacing the original Classics is absurd! If I hear a re-record (so far, I've only heard "After All These Years" on KOST soft rock once) I am definitely gonna call that station and give my 2 cents! C'mon, WTH? Why is this necessary?

99% of the listeners will not notice the difference. You know that is the truth. Let's be real. They are listening to the song and singing along.

[AlienC]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band.

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Agreed. I was telling my pd about this and he absolutely laughed his ass off and said, "NO, way in hell....EVER" and then of course added, "Especially, Journey!" lmao!!

YEah, right. That changes 2 seconds after his boss calls and tells him to do otherwise.
There is no such thing as "integrity"in RADIO, who you trying to kid?

Integrity would be playing the ORGINALS not something trying to pass for something else. I can guarentee you IF our "boss" DID have a say in what we play, she(yes, I said SHE)would put the stops on this impersonating in the first place.

Since you *seem* to know so much about radio I'll tell you in our "corporate world" of 700 stations we are top ten billing in an unrated market. [b]They don't tell us shit.

[/b]

With all due respect, you are at the mercy of your corporate masters like everyone else. You can no sooner go on the air and say "anything you want" anymore than I can go on the internet and post about my employers without consequence. Any thoughts you have of "autonomy" as it relates to your job are an illusion designed to keep you in line. If your between song utterances disturb a big enough client, you'll know about it, and you'll modify your approach or look for a new job, same as anyone else. There is no such thing as "job security " anymore, save some union / organized labor holdovers.
You say you can play / say what you want, yet if market demands want that which you consider unholy played, you'll be gritting your teeth and playing it, with all your bylines and disclaimers muttered under your breath as bumpers.

Lastly, Why is the sex of your "Boss" important? I'm assuming this is your PD's boss and thus is the one I referrred to as being the one making such unholy demands on you? Is your intent to infer that a woman would have more integrity in this situation?

[donnaplease]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band. Listen, I like Arnel, a lot. The fucking dude can sing his ass off. That said, his re-records are simply NOT better than the originals, period, end of story. We have some delusional yahoos on message boards who think Arnel is Perry, resurrected He isn't! He's an immensely talented vocalist who does a very good job, singing the Journey classics.

I actually have a lot of respect for Arnel's talent. The guy is singing songs, in a language that isn't even his own, and I'm not sure many of us can appreciate just how arduous of a task that is. I took Spanish for 4 freakin' years in high school, and came out of it with "No Habla Espanol"

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Exactly! I think AP has an amazing voice, and, I like the NEW songs, but replacing the original Classics is absurd! If I hear a re-record (so far, I've only heard "After All These Years" on KOST soft rock once) I am definitely gonna call that station and give my 2 cents! C'mon, WTH? Why is this necessary?

99% of the listeners will not notice the difference. You know that is the truth. Let's be real. They are listening to the song and singing along.

That's not the point, Robbie. It cheapens the music if any tom, dick or harry can record it and have it replace the originals. (Disclaimer: I'm not trashing Arnel here, just trying to make a distinction.)

I was in WalMart yesterday looking at music. There was a compilation set of 80s music. It had lots of SUPER songs from back in the day. I picked it up, and started to walk toward the register. For some reason I looked down at the case, and it said "All Songs Performed by Group Nobody" (dunno the name). I promptly returned it to the rack.

Who the hell wants that? Someone who doesn't give a shit about 'the music' but would rather hear 'the songs'.

[RobbieG]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band. Listen, I like Arnel, a lot. The fucking dude can sing his ass off. That said, his re-records are simply NOT better than the originals, period, end of story. We have some delusional yahoos on message boards who think Arnel is Perry, resurrected He isn't! He's an immensely talented vocalist who does a very good job, singing the Journey classics.

I actually have a lot of respect for Arnel's talent. The guy is singing songs, in a language that isn't even his own, and I'm not sure many of us can appreciate just how arduous of a task that is. I took Spanish for 4 freakin' years in high school, and came out of it with "No Habla Espanol"

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Exactly! I think AP has an amazing voice, and, I like the NEW songs, but replacing the original Classics is absurd! If I hear a re-record (so far, I've only heard "After All These Years" on KOST soft rock once) I am definitely gonna call that station and give my 2 cents! C'mon, WTH? Why is this necessary?

99% of the listeners will not notice the difference. You know that is the truth. Let's be real. They are listening to the song and singing along.

That's not the point, Robbie. It cheapens the music if any tom, dick or harry can record it and have it replace the originals. (Disclaimer: I'm not trashing Arnel here, just trying to make a distinction.)

I was in WalMart yesterday looking at music. There was a compilation set of 80s music. It had lots of SUPER songs from back in the day. I picked it up, and started to walk toward the register. For some reason I looked down at the case, and it said "All Songs Performed by Group Nobody" (dunno the name). I promptly returned it to the rack.

Who the hell wants that? Someone who doesn't give a shit about 'the music' but would rather hear 'the songs'.

I agree Donna to a point, I understand if it was Kevin Chalfant versions on the radio you have a point but if it the same band that is different. People are listening to them like they would in concert.

[Greg]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band. Listen, I like Arnel, a lot. The fucking dude can sing his ass off. That said, his re-records are simply NOT better than the originals, period, end of story. We have some delusional yahoos on message boards who think Arnel is Perry, resurrected He isn't! He's an immensely talented vocalist who does a very good job, singing the Journey classics.

I actually have a lot of respect for Arnel's talent. The guy is singing songs, in a language that isn't even his own, and I'm not sure many of us can appreciate just how arduous of a task that is. I took Spanish for 4 freakin' years in high school, and came out of it with "No Habla Espanol"

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Exactly! I think AP has an amazing voice, and, I like the NEW songs, but replacing the original Classics is absurd! If I hear a re-record (so far, I've only heard "After All These Years" on KOST soft rock once) I am definitely gonna call that station and give my 2 cents! C'mon, WTH? Why is this necessary?

99% of the listeners will not notice the difference. You know that is the truth. Let's be real. They are listening to the song and singing along.

I would know the difference right off the bat, and that's all that matters to me.

[tammy]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band. Listen, I like Arnel, a lot. The fucking dude can sing his ass off. That said, his re-records are simply NOT better than the originals, period, end of story. We have some delusional yahoos on message boards who think Arnel is Perry, resurrected He isn't! He's an immensely talented vocalist who does a very good job, singing the Journey classics.

I actually have a lot of respect for Arnel's talent. The guy is singing songs, in a language that isn't even his own, and I'm not sure many of us can appreciate just how arduous of a task that is. I took Spanish for 4 freakin' years in high school, and came out of it with "No Habla Espanol"

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Exactly! I think AP has an amazing voice, and, I like the NEW songs, but replacing the original Classics is absurd! If I hear a re-record (so far, I've only heard "After All These Years" on KOST soft rock once) I am definitely gonna call that station and give my 2 cents! C'mon, WTH? Why is this necessary?

99% of the listeners will not notice the difference. You know that is the truth. Let's be real. They are listening to the song and singing along.

Fine, then there won't be resistance from them when it gets switched back to the originals.

[Angiekay]

With all due respect, you are at the mercy of your corporate masters like everyone else. You can no sooner go on the air and say "anything you want" anymore than I can go on the internet and post about my employers without consequence. Any thoughts you have of "autonomy" as it relates to your job are an illusion designed to keep you in line. If your between song utterances disturb a big enough client, you'll know about it, and you'll modify your approach or look for a new job, same as anyone else. There is no such thing as "job security " anymore, save some union / organized labor holdovers.
You say you can play / say what you want, yet if market demands want that which you consider unholy played, you'll be gritting your teeth and playing it, with all your bylines and disclaimers muttered under your breath as bumpers.

Lastly, Why is the sex of your "Boss" important? I'm assuming this is your PD's boss and thus is the one I referrred to as being the one making such unholy demands on you? Is your intent to infer that a woman would have more integrity in this situation?

Listen Sparky, when you work for a radio station and have your own show, get back to me on what you think you know about radio, kay?

[RobbieG]

I can't believe that ANY Program Director in America would EVER play re-records for ANY band. Listen, I like Arnel, a lot. The fucking dude can sing his ass off. That said, his re-records are simply NOT better than the originals, period, end of story. We have some delusional yahoos on message boards who think Arnel is Perry, resurrected He isn't! He's an immensely talented vocalist who does a very good job, singing the Journey classics.

I actually have a lot of respect for Arnel's talent. The guy is singing songs, in a language that isn't even his own, and I'm not sure many of us can appreciate just how arduous of a task that is. I took Spanish for 4 freakin' years in high school, and came out of it with "No Habla Espanol"

Someone needs to kick these Program Directors in their collective ass, and remind them of just what "classic rock" is! There is nothing "classic" about something that was recorded 17 minutes ago


John from Boston

Exactly! I think AP has an amazing voice, and, I like the NEW songs, but replacing the original Classics is absurd! If I hear a re-record (so far, I've only heard "After All These Years" on KOST soft rock once) I am definitely gonna call that station and give my 2 cents! C'mon, WTH? Why is this necessary?

99% of the listeners will not notice the difference. You know that is the truth. Let's be real. They are listening to the song and singing along.

I would know the difference right off the bat, and that's all that matters to me.

your are the 1% .

[Angiekay]

99% of the listeners will not notice the difference. You know that is the truth. Let's be real. They are listening to the song and singing along.

Fine, then there won't be resistance from them when it gets switched back to the originals.

Then how do you know you're really listening to the NEW versions?

[S2M]

Reminds me of another doppelganger.

Company of Snakes - Burst the Bubble

Track 6 - What Love Can Do

Stefan Berggren sounds EXACTLY like David Coverdale when he sings.....



If you can find the track, I'd advise listening to it. Even a Whitesnake expert wouldn't know the difference.



Also, a group called B.B. Steal, on their CD, On the Edge....track 2 - Big On Love...sounds EXACTLY like Joe Elliott.


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[RobbieG]

Reminds me of another doppelganger.

Compnay of Snakes - Burst the Bubble

Track 6 - What Love Can Do

Stefan Berggren sounds EXACTLY like David Coverdale when he sings.....



If you can find the track, I'd advise listening to it. Even a Whitesnake expert wouldn't know the difference.



Also, a group called B.B. Steal, on their CD, On the Edge....track 2 - Big On Love...sounds EXACTLY like Joe Elliott.

Thank you for this post you know what I mean. People are listening to the music.-