Steve Perry Come Back CD!!!!

[Rick]

It's like - what - 5 people saying Steve is workin on / has a new CD coming out....

I count two.... GQ dude and San Fran paper dude.
Randy only said he was working on 'hot stuff', and never mentioned an album...
(he was probably cooking a Lean Cuisine and Randy spotted him )

So I must have missed some.... Who else?

GQ
San Fran Man
Randy
That MTV Veejay guy - Mark something...

OK - 4.....but STILL...!!

Let's not forget about Lora's comments here about listening to his demos. In my experience, Lora and Cyndy are very credible sources, and usually don't say things about SP unless there's something to say.

Yeah that's true but Lora never once said anything about an album or a release. In fact she said pretty clearly that she didn't know what, if any, his plans were. These other people, the DJ and a couple of writers are actually stating as if its fact that he's really got something coming out.

There may be something behind it somewhere but we all know how credible the media is. Still just a rumor at this point.

Lora and Cyndy are your credible sources.

[bluejeangirl76]

It's like - what - 5 people saying Steve is workin on / has a new CD coming out....

I count two.... GQ dude and San Fran paper dude.
Randy only said he was working on 'hot stuff', and never mentioned an album...
(he was probably cooking a Lean Cuisine and Randy spotted him )

So I must have missed some.... Who else?

GQ
San Fran Man
Randy
That MTV Veejay guy - Mark something...

OK - 4.....but STILL...!!

Let's not forget about Lora's comments here about listening to his demos. In my experience, Lora and Cyndy are very credible sources, and usually don't say things about SP unless there's something to say.

Yeah that's true but Lora never once said anything about an album or a release. In fact she said pretty clearly that she didn't know what, if any, his plans were. These other people, the DJ and a couple of writers are actually stating as if its fact that he's really got something coming out.

There may be something behind it somewhere but we all know how credible the media is. Still just a rumor at this point.

Lora and Cyndy are your credible sources.

I never said either of them weren't credible.
But I actually read what Lora said and I never saw any indication from her that an album was coming out or that any plans were in the works for anything. All I said was that Lora was clear about what she posted and it was still taken to mean something else. Its two writers and some DJ who are running around saying he's actually got a release in the works.

[Rick]

It's like - what - 5 people saying Steve is workin on / has a new CD coming out....

I count two.... GQ dude and San Fran paper dude.
Randy only said he was working on 'hot stuff', and never mentioned an album...
(he was probably cooking a Lean Cuisine and Randy spotted him )

So I must have missed some.... Who else?

GQ
San Fran Man
Randy
That MTV Veejay guy - Mark something...

OK - 4.....but STILL...!!

Let's not forget about Lora's comments here about listening to his demos. In my experience, Lora and Cyndy are very credible sources, and usually don't say things about SP unless there's something to say.

Yeah that's true but Lora never once said anything about an album or a release. In fact she said pretty clearly that she didn't know what, if any, his plans were. These other people, the DJ and a couple of writers are actually stating as if its fact that he's really got something coming out.

There may be something behind it somewhere but we all know how credible the media is. Still just a rumor at this point.

Lora and Cyndy are your credible sources.

I never said either of them weren't credible.
But I actually read what Lora said and I never saw any indication from her that an album was coming out or that any plans were in the works for anything. All I said was that Lora was clear about what she posted and it was still taken to mean something else. Its two writers and some DJ who are running around saying he's actually got a release in the works.

I know kitty cat. I was agreeing with you and backing you up.

[Don]

It's like - what - 5 people saying Steve is workin on / has a new CD coming out....

I count two.... GQ dude and San Fran paper dude.
Randy only said he was working on 'hot stuff', and never mentioned an album...
(he was probably cooking a Lean Cuisine and Randy spotted him )

So I must have missed some.... Who else?

GQ
San Fran Man
Randy
That MTV Veejay guy - Mark something...

OK - 4.....but STILL...!!

Let's not forget about Lora's comments here about listening to his demos. In my experience, Lora and Cyndy are very credible sources, and usually don't say things about SP unless there's something to say.

Yeah that's true but Lora never once said anything about an album or a release. In fact she said pretty clearly that she didn't know what, if any, his plans were. These other people, the DJ and a couple of writers are actually stating as if its fact that he's really got something coming out.

There may be something behind it somewhere but we all know how credible the media is. Still just a rumor at this point.

Lora and Cyndy are your credible sources.

I never said either of them weren't credible.
But I actually read what Lora said and I never saw any indication from her that an album was coming out or that any plans were in the works for anything. All I said was that Lora was clear about what she posted and it was still taken to mean something else. Its two writers and some DJ who are running around saying he's actually got a release in the works.

I know kitty cat. I was agreeing with you and backing you up.

Are you peeking at her?

[Since 78]

It's like - what - 5 people saying Steve is workin on / has a new CD coming out....

I count two.... GQ dude and San Fran paper dude.
Randy only said he was working on 'hot stuff', and never mentioned an album...
(he was probably cooking a Lean Cuisine and Randy spotted him )

So I must have missed some.... Who else?

GQ
San Fran Man
Randy
That MTV Veejay guy - Mark something...

OK - 4.....but STILL...!!

Let's not forget about Lora's comments here about listening to his demos. In my experience, Lora and Cyndy are very credible sources, and usually don't say things about SP unless there's something to say.

Yeah that's true but Lora never once said anything about an album or a release. In fact she said pretty clearly that she didn't know what, if any, his plans were. These other people, the DJ and a couple of writers are actually stating as if its fact that he's really got something coming out.

There may be something behind it somewhere but we all know how credible the media is. Still just a rumor at this point.

Lora and Cyndy are your credible sources.

I never said either of them weren't credible.
But I actually read what Lora said and I never saw any indication from her that an album was coming out or that any plans were in the works for anything. All I said was that Lora was clear about what she posted and it was still taken to mean something else. Its two writers and some DJ who are running around saying he's actually got a release in the works.

I know kitty cat. I was agreeing with you and backing you up.

Are you peeking at her?

[Ftloperry]

The title of Steve's comeback album will be.... "About F*ckin' Time"

[Don]

The title of Steve's comeback album will be.... "About F*ckin' Time"

Now, that was funny

[Rick]

It's like - what - 5 people saying Steve is workin on / has a new CD coming out....

I count two.... GQ dude and San Fran paper dude.
Randy only said he was working on 'hot stuff', and never mentioned an album...
(he was probably cooking a Lean Cuisine and Randy spotted him )

So I must have missed some.... Who else?

GQ
San Fran Man
Randy
That MTV Veejay guy - Mark something...

OK - 4.....but STILL...!!

Let's not forget about Lora's comments here about listening to his demos. In my experience, Lora and Cyndy are very credible sources, and usually don't say things about SP unless there's something to say.

Yeah that's true but Lora never once said anything about an album or a release. In fact she said pretty clearly that she didn't know what, if any, his plans were. These other people, the DJ and a couple of writers are actually stating as if its fact that he's really got something coming out.

There may be something behind it somewhere but we all know how credible the media is. Still just a rumor at this point.

Lora and Cyndy are your credible sources.

I never said either of them weren't credible.
But I actually read what Lora said and I never saw any indication from her that an album was coming out or that any plans were in the works for anything. All I said was that Lora was clear about what she posted and it was still taken to mean something else. Its two writers and some DJ who are running around saying he's actually got a release in the works.

I know kitty cat. I was agreeing with you and backing you up.

Are you peeking at her?

Nobody gets my humor.

[Don]

Rick, Two peas in a pod are we.

Wow, I've gone from friganese to f'kn Yoda now. I rock!

[Rick]

Rick, Two peas in a pod are we.

Wow, I've gone from friganese to f'kn Yoda now. I rock!

[WykkedSensation]

The title of Steve's comeback album will be.... "About F*ckin' Time"

No, it will be 'Assholes, This is how it's done'

[donnaplease]

It's like - what - 5 people saying Steve is workin on / has a new CD coming out....

I count two.... GQ dude and San Fran paper dude.
Randy only said he was working on 'hot stuff', and never mentioned an album...
(he was probably cooking a Lean Cuisine and Randy spotted him )

So I must have missed some.... Who else?

GQ
San Fran Man
Randy
That MTV Veejay guy - Mark something...

OK - 4.....but STILL...!!

Let's not forget about Lora's comments here about listening to his demos. In my experience, Lora and Cyndy are very credible sources, and usually don't say things about SP unless there's something to say.

Yeah that's true but Lora never once said anything about an album or a release. In fact she said pretty clearly that she didn't know what, if any, his plans were. These other people, the DJ and a couple of writers are actually stating as if its fact that he's really got something coming out.

There may be something behind it somewhere but we all know how credible the media is. Still just a rumor at this point.

Lora and Cyndy are your credible sources.

I never said either of them weren't credible.
But I actually read what Lora said and I never saw any indication from her that an album was coming out or that any plans were in the works for anything. All I said was that Lora was clear about what she posted and it was still taken to mean something else. Its two writers and some DJ who are running around saying he's actually got a release in the works.

You're right, BJG. I guess the point that I was trying to make is that in my experiences, I have never seen Lora comment on something unless there was something to comment on. To me, the fact that she mentioned the demos was significant. I cannot even begin to imagine how difficult it is for her & Cyndy to read here, seeing the kinds of things that are said about SP, wanting to jump in and defend him, but not doing so. It's a trait that I admire, and something I know I could never do. I personally don't believe that she would've commented on the demos unless there was something in the works. Even if I'm wrong, I'm still glad he's in the studio and enjoying it again.

[bluejeangirl76]

The title of Steve's comeback album will be.... "About F*ckin' Time"

No, it will be 'Assholes, This is how it's done'

I love BOTH of those titles for a Perry record.

Ftloperry knows exactly how I feel about her ideas... she is one funny chickie, let me tell ya.

[bluejeangirl76]

I never said either of them weren't credible.
But I actually read what Lora said and I never saw any indication from her that an album was coming out or that any plans were in the works for anything. All I said was that Lora was clear about what she posted and it was still taken to mean something else. Its two writers and some DJ who are running around saying he's actually got a release in the works.

I know kitty cat. I was agreeing with you and backing you up.

Are you peeking at her?

Nobody gets my humor.

*I* get it Rick. Me and you, buddy-roo.

And I know you were agreeing with me.
I was just expanding my point for any short-buses out there who don't read so good.
(no one HERE of course... just the lurkers. yeah. lurkers)

[bluejeangirl76]

I cannot even begin to imagine how difficult it is for her & Cyndy to read here, seeing the kinds of things that are said about SP,

If it were me, I'm really not sure I'd even be able to read at all here considering what gets said.
But then again, this is me, and we all know I can't shut up.
So I'd have to force myself to stay away, or be in daily battles over Sir Perry (mostly with Dan...LOL! j/k SJ).

[Red13JoePa]

Hey folks, they did what they could on the re-records. Other than JoePa doing cartwheels in his underwear with a cockring on, I think most of us are only mildly interested in them.

THat I do, SJ.
I LOVE D2, never listen to D1 w/out immediately trotting 2 out after.

Still very much in favor of perry doing his own version of D2 btw. It would eliminate the need to sweat blood with 5 ghost writers whilst laboring to conjure up something like

dddddddddddddddddddddrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmrrrrrrroooooooollllllllllllllllll:


Missing You

[bluejeangirl76]

whilst laboring to conjure up something like

dddddddddddddddddddddrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmrrrrrrroooooooollllllllllllllllll:


Missing You

[venomnation]

Normally I'd say where there is smoke there is fire, but I've learned you can have plenty of smoke and not so much as a toasted marshmallow.

PARTICULARLY...with Journey and anything related to it, specifically Steve Perry, as we've had said smoke blown up our asses for a good number of years now...LOL

[bluejeangirl76]

Normally I'd say where there is smoke there is fire, but I've learned you can have plenty of smoke and not so much as a toasted marshmallow.

PARTICULARLY...with Journey and anything related to it,

Yes. Plenty of smoke all the way around, so until I can roast freakin' weenies with my copy of "About Fuckin' Time" (or "Assholes, This Is How Its Done") in my hot little hand, I'm just gonna stay off the rumor mill. I get motion sick from how fast that damn thing flies around here!

[tammy]

If SP comes out with a CD I'll, of course, be thrilled...but, I'm happy to hear (thru all the bits & pieces here & there) he is making some music. I always find it sad to hear when musicians or artists, in general, walk away from their passion for one reason or another...in SP's case he was burned bad & it's understandable...it takes a lot of strength to come back to it...and, I'm here to be supportive.

As for the re-records...I 'intensely dislike' the idea of them doing it. Yeah, Wal-Mart's the one that wanted them per Neal's interview, they didn't even want a whole CD of new songs until Neal said it, if I remember correctly. It's just lame and everything revolves around $$...forget about honor. Anyway, I played the re-records once and tossed it somewhere.
I feel differently about the songs being sung in concert 'cuz I wasn't around with the news of Journey parting ways with SP & hiring a new singer back in the 90s. If I had known at the time it's pretty sure I wouldn't have followed Jrny since it was The Voice that hooked me. But, yes, I know it isn't just SP, the entire band crafted the songs so they're gonna do whatever. The songs are like vapor in concert - there's no permanence to them like the re-records...so there's that.

[Liquid_Drummer]

Lets face the facts folks. Steves voice was/is very broken. His term was toast I think.. I am only going to say this once and leave it for what it is.

I have met a couple of very nice people online that claim they WERE in the know about Steve and Journey in the later half of the 90's. They don't know him personally however one of these people was a freelance journalist in CA at the time and that is all I will say about that. I still take it with a grain of salt but I have to admit that these individuals seem to know enough people in the buis that I can give it a pretty high confidence factor and I have seen one of their names in print so unless they are imposters which I find very doubtful this may have some validity to it. .

They would not tell me any specifics because they don't trust me (our meeting was recent) and journalistic trusts can not be violated. All that I was told was that my opinion about Steve's "condition" was pretty close and that was ALL that was said about that. In one of our email exchanges I was told, "You seem to be doing a pretty accurate job drawing your own conclusions. Unfortunately I dont know the answer to your last question or be any more specific about the matter".

That question was about the hip injury. I have always thought that it was bullshit. He knew he could not tour the old material (FTLOSM tour proved that to him) and had to find a way out. Just my opinion there.

To me you can hear it in his speech, especially his laugh. His laugh shows the extent of the damage . When you laugh your voice goes up in pitch. This is automatic. Listen to Steve laugh in his most recent interviews vs old interviews and you can hear the Uh Oh... His cords are very separated and not closing well at all. This is crucial for singing in any pitch. Even his low speaking voice is very raspy. Also take note of the fact that he speaks much softer in the newer interviews vs old interviews. When you suffer from that type of vocal damage you lose volume in your speaking voice as well.

Im just calling it like I hear it.

My opinion is that Steve has polyps or a broken blood vessel that went untreated on one or both cords and as a result his cords do not close all the way which in the early stages causes rasp (Frontiers) that gets progressively raspier over time (ROR) and if left untreated results in vocal fatigue or further damage.(FTLOSM performance issues from bootlegs and finally the tour cancellations).

There are techniques and procedures to fix a lot of these issues and they carry a lot less risk than they did 15 years ago. I am pretty sure that Steve would have to have something done to be able to sing at a level he himself could be happy with and I am thinking that maybe he did. We all know he has high expectations of himself and if you look at the evidence with objectivity it makes sense. Or it makes a good story in the Enquirer..

[WykkedSensation]

If his voice was completely shot, i really do not believe that artists would want him singing on any of thier releases. To my ears he sounded ok on the David Pack cut, although yeah, very raspy, and more so than TBF etc.
I also beleive that being the so called 'Perfectionist' that he claims to be, he would not be even contemplating recording anything new, demo wise, or indeed a new cd, if his vocals were completely fucked. I just don't see him doing it if he doesn't have something to offer.

Regarding the 'FTLOSM' shows, i have 15 of them in total and some of them are fuckin amazing, and waayyyy better vocals than the ROR tour or indeed the 'Frontiers' tour to be honest, where the songs were just rushed like nothin i have heard before. That tour was shit, except for the Jap shows.

Maybe, the man has had specialist treatment. Who are we to know. Lets just wait and see if he does anything afterall. I have a gut feeling he will, and i know that if he does it will be fuckin amazing.

[Playitloudforme]

Awesome. Note that its Sanctuary too. Kalodner still has a hand in this somewhere, I'd wager.

[Onestepper]

If his voice was completely shot, i really do not believe that artists would want him singing on any of thier releases. To my ears he sounded ok on the David Pack cut, although yeah, very raspy, and more so than TBF etc.
I also beleive that being the so called 'Perfectionist' that he claims to be, he would not be even contemplating recording anything new, demo wise, or indeed a new cd, if his vocals were completely fucked. I just don't see him doing it if he doesn't have something to offer.

Regarding the 'FTLOSM' shows, i have 15 of them in total and some of them are fuckin amazing, and waayyyy better vocals than the ROR tour or indeed the 'Frontiers' tour to be honest, where the songs were just rushed like nothin i have heard before. That tour was shit, except for the Jap shows.

Maybe, the man has had specialist treatment. Who are we to know. Lets just wait and see if he does anything afterall. I have a gut feeling he will, and i know that if he does it will be fuckin amazing.

Recording a few lines and background vocal on a collabrative effort is much different than going into the studio day after day to record your own material. My feeling is that if he is recording new stuff, he's probably having to space it out over an extended period of time to give the voice time to rest in between.

[Deb]

Lets face the facts folks. Steves voice was/is very broken. His term was toast I think.. I am only going to say this once and leave it for what it is.

I have met a couple of very nice people online that claim they WERE in the know about Steve and Journey in the later half of the 90's. They don't know him personally however one of these people was a freelance journalist in CA at the time and that is all I will say about that. I still take it with a grain of salt but I have to admit that these individuals seem to know enough people in the buis that I can give it a pretty high confidence factor and I have seen one of their names in print so unless they are imposters which I find very doubtful this may have some validity to it. .

They would not tell me any specifics because they don't trust me (our meeting was recent) and journalistic trusts can not be violated. All that I was told was that my opinion about Steve's "condition" was pretty close and that was ALL that was said about that. In one of our email exchanges I was told, "You seem to be doing a pretty accurate job drawing your own conclusions. Unfortunately I dont know the answer to your last question or be any more specific about the matter".

That question was about the hip injury. I have always thought that it was bullshit. He knew he could not tour the old material (FTLOSM tour proved that to him) and had to find a way out. Just my opinion there.

To me you can hear it in his speech, especially his laugh. His laugh shows the extent of the damage . When you laugh your voice goes up in pitch. This is automatic. Listen to Steve laugh in his most recent interviews vs old interviews and you can hear the Uh Oh... His cords are very separated and not closing well at all. This is crucial for singing in any pitch. Even his low speaking voice is very raspy. Also take note of the fact that he speaks much softer in the newer interviews vs old interviews. When you suffer from that type of vocal damage you lose volume in your speaking voice as well.

Im just calling it like I hear it.

My opinion is that Steve has polyps or a broken blood vessel that went untreated on one or both cords and as a result his cords do not close all the way which in the early stages causes rasp (Frontiers) that gets progressively raspier over time (ROR) and if left untreated results in vocal fatigue or further damage.(FTLOSM performance issues from bootlegs and finally the tour cancellations).

There are techniques and procedures to fix a lot of these issues and they carry a lot less risk than they did 15 years ago. I am pretty sure that Steve would have to have something done to be able to sing at a level he himself could be happy with and I am thinking that maybe he did. We all know he has high expectations of himself and if you look at the evidence with objectivity it makes sense. Or it makes a good story in the Enquirer..

Everybody's entitled to their opinions, but all I know at the end of the day.....is, if he can sing half as good as his little impromptu sing along with that white sox reporter (00:50 second mark on this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPxX0VwHu-I ) after screaming and partying for a few days and no warm up..........then this fan is definitely putting her $$ down on anything he puts out!

[WykkedSensation]

If his voice was completely shot, i really do not believe that artists would want him singing on any of thier releases. To my ears he sounded ok on the David Pack cut, although yeah, very raspy, and more so than TBF etc.
I also beleive that being the so called 'Perfectionist' that he claims to be, he would not be even contemplating recording anything new, demo wise, or indeed a new cd, if his vocals were completely fucked. I just don't see him doing it if he doesn't have something to offer.

Regarding the 'FTLOSM' shows, i have 15 of them in total and some of them are fuckin amazing, and waayyyy better vocals than the ROR tour or indeed the 'Frontiers' tour to be honest, where the songs were just rushed like nothin i have heard before. That tour was shit, except for the Jap shows.

Maybe, the man has had specialist treatment. Who are we to know. Lets just wait and see if he does anything afterall. I have a gut feeling he will, and i know that if he does it will be fuckin amazing.

Recording a few lines and background vocal on a collabrative effort is much different than going into the studio day after day to record your own material. My feeling is that if he is recording new stuff, he's probably having to space it out over an extended period of time to give the voice time to rest in between.

Nothin wrong with resting the voice in between. I know people who do exactly that.
Ya know, treatment is out there if you have the money, and quite obviously he aint short of a dollar or two.

I really hope he comes out with something new and blows all the naysyers into fuckin oblivion. Wouldn't that really be a kick in the ass for all the doubters. I would love it.

[donnaplease]

Lets face the facts folks. Steves voice was/is very broken. His term was toast I think..

If I remember correctly, he said "he" was toast, not his voice. And then one of the others came along and said, 'yeah, he really was toast'. (The BTM episode is what I'm referring to, and I'm assuming it's the same as you). But... I also believe it is evident that his voice was damaged from overuse. He frequently said that they changed up their sound to keep things fresh, which I believe may be true, but I also believe it was a self-preservation attempt of sorts, which is okay too.

It doesn't really matter to me, I would love to hear anything from him. There really is more than voice to 'the voice'. Total package, baby!

[amaron]

I equate a new SP CD to a UFO and Aliens, I'll believe it when I see it.

[NealIsGod]

I really hope he comes out with something new and blows all the naysyers into fuckin oblivion. Wouldn't that really be a kick in the ass for all the doubters. I would love it.

Me, too. I would love to be able to say I was wrong about his desire and voice, both of which I think are severely diminished.

[Suzanne]

Steve Perry could sing a raspy old rendition of the Yellow Pages, I'd still listen because of the sheer passion he puts into everything he sings. Call me a "loon" or whatever the silly term is, I don't care. I call me a huge fan and if he never sings again and is happy, then I'll love him even more for it. He has the freedom now of not having to crank out an album if he doesn't feel like it and I think that's awesome. All the doubters and people who are "dissing" him can't take a big bite.

So- Steve, put it out there and I'll be first in line but otherwise just be happy.