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Postby RobbieG » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:36 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
ebake02 wrote:I have to ask a really stupid question. What is this WTF forum anyway?


Exactly.


WTF was a forum created for MelodicRock users to keep in touch with the legendary Rockin' Deano, and after awhile it became a bit of a middle ground between MelodicRock and various other music forums around the 'Net its members are a part of.

Since its inception in May, WTF has created a bit of its own identity and sustained itself even while Deano was gone for awhile. While it's not meant at all to be a rival or competition to the MelodicRock forums, WTF provides a place for people to share opinions and discussion that just might be a little too controversial for more middle-of-the-road boards.

I highly encourage all who read this to sign up and add WTF to your daily forum rounds. ;)


Why is this man legendary ProgRocker53?


He's one of the most visible, entertaining, controversial, offensive, and prolific posters in MelodicRock history, dude. He was also part of a successful movement to out Journey for using taped vocals and lip syncing during a period of at least several known shows.

Behind his brash and very open personality lies a good man.. and many others would attest to this as well.


That's why he is legendary to you ProgRocker53? You believe he is a good man? Example look what he has done to Andrew? Is that the actions of a good man. Dude you need to open your eyes. He is a good con man that I give him credit. He outed Journey? He almost destroyed Augeri. That's the action of a good man
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Postby hoagiepete » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:46 am

RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
ebake02 wrote:I have to ask a really stupid question. What is this WTF forum anyway?


Exactly.


WTF was a forum created for MelodicRock users to keep in touch with the legendary Rockin' Deano, and after awhile it became a bit of a middle ground between MelodicRock and various other music forums around the 'Net its members are a part of.

Since its inception in May, WTF has created a bit of its own identity and sustained itself even while Deano was gone for awhile. While it's not meant at all to be a rival or competition to the MelodicRock forums, WTF provides a place for people to share opinions and discussion that just might be a little too controversial for more middle-of-the-road boards.

I highly encourage all who read this to sign up and add WTF to your daily forum rounds. ;)


Why is this man legendary ProgRocker53?


He's one of the most visible, entertaining, controversial, offensive, and prolific posters in MelodicRock history, dude. He was also part of a successful movement to out Journey for using taped vocals and lip syncing during a period of at least several known shows.

Behind his brash and very open personality lies a good man.. and many others would attest to this as well.


That's why he is legendary to you ProgRocker53? You believe he is a good man? Example look what he has done to Andrew? Is that the actions of a good man. Dude you need to open your eyes. He is a good con man that I give him credit. He outed Joureny and almost destroyed Augeri. That's the action of a good man


I have missed alot around here I guess. What did Deano do to Andrew? Sorry I missed it. Don't mean to rehash things, but I honestly missed it.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:09 am

RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
ebake02 wrote:I have to ask a really stupid question. What is this WTF forum anyway?


Exactly.


WTF was a forum created for MelodicRock users to keep in touch with the legendary Rockin' Deano, and after awhile it became a bit of a middle ground between MelodicRock and various other music forums around the 'Net its members are a part of.

Since its inception in May, WTF has created a bit of its own identity and sustained itself even while Deano was gone for awhile. While it's not meant at all to be a rival or competition to the MelodicRock forums, WTF provides a place for people to share opinions and discussion that just might be a little too controversial for more middle-of-the-road boards.

I highly encourage all who read this to sign up and add WTF to your daily forum rounds. ;)


Why is this man legendary ProgRocker53?


He's one of the most visible, entertaining, controversial, offensive, and prolific posters in MelodicRock history, dude. He was also part of a successful movement to out Journey for using taped vocals and lip syncing during a period of at least several known shows.

Behind his brash and very open personality lies a good man.. and many others would attest to this as well.


That's why he is legendary to you ProgRocker53? You believe he is a good man? Example look what he has done to Andrew? Is that the actions of a good man. Dude you need to open your eyes. He is a good con man that I give him credit. He outed Journey? He almost destroyed Augeri. That's the action of a good man


You've obviously never personally interacted with the dude very much...
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Postby Andrew » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:28 am

Nobody should be worrying about this....just not worth it. Waste of time and energy. Just another sad chapter...
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Postby Perrydise » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:32 am

RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
ebake02 wrote:I have to ask a really stupid question. What is this WTF forum anyway?


Exactly.


WTF was a forum created for MelodicRock users to keep in touch with the legendary Rockin' Deano, and after awhile it became a bit of a middle ground between MelodicRock and various other music forums around the 'Net its members are a part of.

Since its inception in May, WTF has created a bit of its own identity and sustained itself even while Deano was gone for awhile. While it's not meant at all to be a rival or competition to the MelodicRock forums, WTF provides a place for people to share opinions and discussion that just might be a little too controversial for more middle-of-the-road boards.

I highly encourage all who read this to sign up and add WTF to your daily forum rounds. ;)


Why is this man legendary ProgRocker53?


He's one of the most visible, entertaining, controversial, offensive, and prolific posters in MelodicRock history, dude. He was also part of a successful movement to out Journey for using taped vocals and lip syncing during a period of at least several known shows.

Behind his brash and very open personality lies a good man.. and many others would attest to this as well.


That's why he is legendary to you ProgRocker53? You believe he is a good man? Example look what he has done to Andrew? Is that the actions of a good man. Dude you need to open your eyes. He is a good con man that I give him credit. He outed Journey? He almost destroyed Augeri. That's the action of a good man


Gee 52 posts, you sure know alot. Augeri got sick, Journey came up with an idea to screw the fans, Augeri went along with it. There are many "cons" in that scam that was meant to truly dupe the fans.
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Postby Don » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:33 am

This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried. If he lipped, it was to his own vocals. How many other artists use backround vocals on the lead. I don't know and you people don't know but I bet there are quite a few. Anything he did was not by himself. Do you honestly think he could have a backing tape synced to him without the rest of the band knowing? If what he did was so bad the question is why you are all still fans. Neal and John run the band, they are just as guilty as Augeri for what happened, but Augeri is the bad guy? And once Jeff was in the band, tapegate suddenly isn't a big deal, Journey just did what they had to do? What fucking hypocrisy. If you're gonna crucify Augeri for lipping then his co-conspirators, JSS, Arnel and all the rest of Journey should be dead to you. And than for some to pay homage to the party for outing him is complete bullshit. If lipping was such a sin than why did JSS allow himself to associated with such people. Don't tell me he didn't know, that it was such a big secret that he couldn't have possibly heard about it. I'm not calling out Jeff, Arnel or the band at all, I'm talking about the people here that couldn't wait to take part in the destruction of another person's life, over something that was at the most a bad judgement call but not so uncommon in the world of live entertainment. The guilty one's know who they are, and if you don't like that I called you out, then, please, post a response explaining your actions.
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Postby Maui Tom » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:34 am

Andrew wrote:Nobody should be worrying about this....just not worth it. Waste of time and energy. Just another sad chapter...


almost as sad as MR having this godawful (and yes I have posted in it) Single Word Thread... :)
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:43 am

Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried. If he lipped, it was to his own vocals. How many other artists use backround vocals on the lead. I don't know and you people don't know but I bet there are quite a few. Anything he did was not by himself. Do you honestly think he could have a backing tape synced to him without the rest of the band knowing? If what he did was so bad the question is why you are all still fans. Neal and John run the band, they are just as guilty as Augeri for what happened, but Augeri is the bad guy? And once Jeff was in the band, tapegate suddenly isn't a big deal, Journey just did what they had to do? What fucking hypocrisy. If you're gonna crucify Augeri for lipping then his co-conspirators, JSS, Arnel and all the rest of Journey should be dead to you. And than for some to pay homage to the party for outing him is complete bullshit. If lipping was such a sin than why did JSS allow himself to associated with such people. Don't tell me he didn't know, that it was such a big secret that he couldn't have possibly heard about it. I'm not calling out Jeff, Arnel or the band at all, I'm talking about the people here that couldn't wait to take part in the destruction of another person's life, over something that was at the most a bad judgement call but not so uncommon in the world of live entertainment. The guilty one's know who they are, and if you don't like that I called you out, then, please, post a response explaining your actions.


-Yes, without Augeri's contribution there's a chance of Journey being dead, YET there are several other capable vocalists that Journey could have chosen that would've filled the role just as well, if not better. Not a slam on Augeri's talents at all (he's a great singer, decent writer, and class man), but it's the truth.

-Keep in mind, however, that without Deano's contribution Journey could be dead and buried as well. They were on a slippery slope that started with the lipping, Dean outing them and them bringing JSS off the bench was what kept the band alived.

-"How many other artists use background vocals on the lead?" The answer is, quite a few, BUT.... that doesn't make it acceptable for ANYONE, let alone the great band Journey.

-EVERY MEMBER of the band was responsible for TapeGate, and the whole thing was a disaster. However, it's pretty much been outright proven that Augeri was forced into it by Neal/Jon/Management.... and I can't say I really blame the guy. He was put in a corner, his demands went unheard, and had no choice but to lip.... or lose his job (which ended up happening anyway).

-I'm sure JSS didn't give the lipping issue a second thought when he joined Journey. I wouldn't give Journey's history of shitcanning personnel a second thought if they called me up to play with them myself. The opportunity to live your dream with a favorite band is the chance of a lifetime and I'd take it, regardless of what kind of people they are.

-I doubt Augeri's life is destroyed. The man probably made a VERY comfortable amount of money off record sales for Arrival, and touring for eight years. The man did hundreds of shows and got a lot of royalties... I'd be VERY surprised if his kids weren't set for college, if he didn't have a reliable car and a paid-for home. His voice is back, new Augeri and Tall Stories records are supposedly in the works... no way his life is ruined.

-I'm still a fan because I've always loved and always will love Journey's MUSIC, period, and try not to judge the band members too much... even though they have proven to be douches more than once. What the band members have done personally and professionally, does not prevent me from appreciating high-quality rock music and live shows.
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Postby Behshad » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:46 am

I agree with gunbot
You can not put the blame on Augeri only,,,, everyone in the band was as guilty.....and if that's the reason some started to bash the band, saying they're done cause Augeri lipped, then they should be done with the bans period , cause of the reasons Gunbot stated above.
The way I personally look at it is, all Journey singers are the victims at some point and fully replacable without any attention given to morals, integrity or loyalty. It's all business and as long as the $ rolls in, no one can affect the desicions made at the Journey camp.
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Postby Don » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:54 am

Thank's for your response Prog. I don't agree with your second bullet statement but that's your opinion so fine. I don't have a problem with the tape issue and with Jeff coming in if Steve couldn't go on. My problem is that the people who were upset with the tape thing were very selective about who should be blamed for what went down.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:54 am

Behshad wrote:I agree with gunbot
You can not put the blame on Augeri only,,,, everyone in the band was as guilty.....and if that's the reason some started to bash the band, saying they're done cause Augeri lipped, then they should be done with the bans period , cause of the reasons Gunbot stated above.
The way I personally look at it is, all Journey singers are the victims at some point and fully replacable without any attention given to morals, integrity or loyalty. It's all business and as long as the $ rolls in, no one can affect the desicions made at the Journey camp.


Indeed.
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:04 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried. If he lipped, it was to his own vocals. How many other artists use backround vocals on the lead. I don't know and you people don't know but I bet there are quite a few. Anything he did was not by himself. Do you honestly think he could have a backing tape synced to him without the rest of the band knowing? If what he did was so bad the question is why you are all still fans. Neal and John run the band, they are just as guilty as Augeri for what happened, but Augeri is the bad guy? And once Jeff was in the band, tapegate suddenly isn't a big deal, Journey just did what they had to do? What fucking hypocrisy. If you're gonna crucify Augeri for lipping then his co-conspirators, JSS, Arnel and all the rest of Journey should be dead to you. And than for some to pay homage to the party for outing him is complete bullshit. If lipping was such a sin than why did JSS allow himself to associated with such people. Don't tell me he didn't know, that it was such a big secret that he couldn't have possibly heard about it. I'm not calling out Jeff, Arnel or the band at all, I'm talking about the people here that couldn't wait to take part in the destruction of another person's life, over something that was at the most a bad judgement call but not so uncommon in the world of live entertainment. The guilty one's know who they are, and if you don't like that I called you out, then, please, post a response explaining your actions.


-Yes, without Augeri's contribution there's a chance of Journey being dead, YET there are several other capable vocalists that Journey could have chosen that would've filled the role just as well, if not better. Not a slam on Augeri's talents at all (he's a great singer, decent writer, and class man), but it's the truth.

-Keep in mind, however, that without Deano's contribution Journey could be dead and buried as well. They were on a slippery slope that started with the lipping, Dean outing them and them bringing JSS off the bench was what kept the band alived.

-"How many other artists use background vocals on the lead?" The answer is, quite a few, BUT.... that doesn't make it acceptable for ANYONE, let alone the great band Journey.

-EVERY MEMBER of the band was responsible for TapeGate, and the whole thing was a disaster. However, it's pretty much been outright proven that Augeri was forced into it by Neal/Jon/Management.... and I can't say I really blame the guy. He was put in a corner, his demands went unheard, and had no choice but to lip.... or lose his job (which ended up happening anyway).

-I'm sure JSS didn't give the lipping issue a second thought when he joined Journey. I wouldn't give Journey's history of shitcanning personnel a second thought if they called me up to play with them myself. The opportunity to live your dream with a favorite band is the chance of a lifetime and I'd take it, regardless of what kind of people they are.

-I doubt Augeri's life is destroyed. The man probably made a VERY comfortable amount of money off record sales for Arrival, and touring for eight years. The man did hundreds of shows and got a lot of royalties... I'd be VERY surprised if his kids weren't set for college, if he didn't have a reliable car and a paid-for home. His voice is back, new Augeri and Tall Stories records are supposedly in the works... no way his life is ruined.

-I'm still a fan because I've always loved and always will love Journey's MUSIC, period, and try not to judge the band members too much... even though they have proven to be douches more than once. What the band members have done personally and professionally, does not prevent me from appreciating high-quality rock music and live shows.


I've never been an "Augeri fan" per se, but to minimize the hit his reputation took because of tapegate is not really fair. To say that he and his family are 'set' really doesn't matter. The damage to his reputation and the stress he & his family must've endured is probably difficult for any of us to imagine. I'm not defending him; hell, I made my share of jokes (or laughed at the jokes of others) during my time here. But, I also always maintained that it was not an "all Augeri's fault" situation, too.

I guess I, like many others here, got wrapped up in the great times that many of us had going to the shows around the country. We had a blast, getting to know each other, and because of my friends during that time (of which Dean was a big part) I had opportunities to interact with some important people. I will look back on those times and remember what great times they were. But, IMO, Dean didn't 'save' the band, nor is he responsible for JSS coming aboard. As I remember it, he didn't even like JSS at first. I don't think anyone could ever deny that Dean's participation in the Journey situation has been colorful, to say the least. He made a lot of fans, and a lot of enemies. I just think we should all keep in perspective what this situation is, and let the parties that are involved work it out. The issues between major players here are not new. This is just another round in a long history. I'm sure everything will blow over if folks will just leave it alone.
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Postby Don » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:07 am

Some people did move on from the band after tapegate and they had every right if they didn't agree with it. My post was aimed at the others who went with the mob, only to be waving pom poms two years later acting like their past actions were no big deal.
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Postby RobbieG » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:10 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
RobbieG wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
ebake02 wrote:I have to ask a really stupid question. What is this WTF forum anyway?


Exactly.


WTF was a forum created for MelodicRock users to keep in touch with the legendary Rockin' Deano, and after awhile it became a bit of a middle ground between MelodicRock and various other music forums around the 'Net its members are a part of.

Since its inception in May, WTF has created a bit of its own identity and sustained itself even while Deano was gone for awhile. While it's not meant at all to be a rival or competition to the MelodicRock forums, WTF provides a place for people to share opinions and discussion that just might be a little too controversial for more middle-of-the-road boards.

I highly encourage all who read this to sign up and add WTF to your daily forum rounds. ;)


Why is this man legendary ProgRocker53?


He's one of the most visible, entertaining, controversial, offensive, and prolific posters in MelodicRock history, dude. He was also part of a successful movement to out Journey for using taped vocals and lip syncing during a period of at least several known shows.

Behind his brash and very open personality lies a good man.. and many others would attest to this as well.


That's why he is legendary to you ProgRocker53? You believe he is a good man? Example look what he has done to Andrew? Is that the actions of a good man. Dude you need to open your eyes. He is a good con man that I give him credit. He outed Journey? He almost destroyed Augeri. That's the action of a good man


You've obviously never personally interacted with the dude very much...


Not much ProgRocker 53 but enough to find out what kind of person he is. He's supposely your friend and then stabs you in the back. Look what he did to Andrew. The man was all talk. Now this site is better now for what Andrew has done. It belongs to everyone not like he use to say that the Journey forum was his. Let's support Andrew and this site.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:17 am

I'll never stop supporting Andrew and his site, EVER... but at the same time I do have loyalties to posters here that I like and admire.

You can't be able to judge what kind of a person someone is if you base your opinion off of what you've seen/heard, or very minimal reaction.
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Postby wednesday's child » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:47 am

:roll:

Maybe Dean had ample license to screw up, given what he's had to deal with
in his personal life. Even if he didn't, you can't just pass judgement on a real person
after having only gone to few concerts with him, let alone having never met him at all.
One can, however, pass judgement on actions as isolated incidents.

So Dean screwed up... we all have, and all will, despite our best efforts,
and anyone who's a fan of Journey gets some slack in my book.
I only caught the tail-end of Deano's tenancy here, and I wish him peace.

I also wish this forum was a bit more about Journey....LOL.

I'd never heard of Jeff Scott Soto or Jeremey Hunsicker before joining.
I knew very little of Steve Augeri, and while I joined MR out of excitement
over my countryman Arnel, I've mostly stuck around because I want to learn more
about JSS, JH and SA. I think many new Journey fans would like to learn too,
because such knowledge only enriches an appreciation for what Journey
is bringing now, and what they might bring in coming years.

I'm here for celebrating Journey's music.
Learning more about past and present members of Journey helps me enjoy their music.
Rehashing some personal drama between past and present MR members doesn't.


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Postby spellbinder » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:17 pm

wednesday's child wrote::roll:

Maybe Dean had ample license to screw up, given what he's had to deal with
in his personal life. Even if he didn't, you can't just pass judgement on a real person
after having only gone to few concerts with him, let alone having never met him at all.
One can, however, pass judgement on actions as isolated incidents.

So Dean screwed up... we all have, and all will, despite our best efforts,
and anyone who's a fan of Journey gets some slack in my book.
I only caught the tail-end of Deano's tenancy here, and I wish him peace.

I also wish this forum was a bit more about Journey....LOL.

I'd never heard of Jeff Scott Soto or Jeremey Hunsicker before joining.
I knew very little of Steve Augeri, and while I joined MR out of excitement
over my countryman Arnel, I've mostly stuck around because I want to learn more
about JSS, JH and SA. I think many new Journey fans would like to learn too,
because such knowledge only enriches an appreciation for what Journey
is bringing now, and what they might bring in coming years.

I'm here for celebrating Journey's music.
Learning more about past and present members of Journey helps me enjoy their music.
Rehashing some personal drama between past and present MR members doesn't.

-wech


Likewise ...

I learned a lot about Journey just by lurking around here and then interacting.
I'm even surprised why I find the time to be in this site considering my busy schedule.
Maybe I'm just subconsciously rooting for Arnel.
But I feel reborn now to appreciate Journey music again.
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Postby faithfullyjourney » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:04 pm

wednesday's child wrote:
and anyone who's a fan of Journey gets some slack in my book.


-wech


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Postby mikemarrs » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:25 pm

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Andrew wrote:Nobody should be worrying about this....just not worth it. Waste of time and energy. Just another sad chapter...


almost as sad as MR having this godawful (and yes I have posted in it) Single Word Thread... :)




them there's fightin' words :evil: :evil: ,don't mess with the single word thread :wink:
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Postby Matthew » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:59 pm

Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....
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Postby NealIsGod » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:01 am

Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?
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Postby Behshad » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:11 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?


I think Matthew was staring at them asses above while thinking and making that post..... :?
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Postby Matthew » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:11 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?



Well, the band are currently enjoying success despite the events of the last ten years: the flop albums...the cruise ship shows...the conning the fans scandal...etc...etc. The only reason Journey have emerged pretty much unscathed is that they were 'under the radar' the entire time...
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Postby Matthew » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:29 am

Behshad wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?


I think Matthew was staring at them asses above while thinking and making that post..... :?



So what's the deal with that forum of yours, Beshad? I went through all the hassle of signing up and two weeks later I get an e-mail saying my membership has been cancelled because I haven't posted. Suffering from control-freakery issues over there by any chance?
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Postby NealIsGod » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:31 am

Matthew wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?



Well, the band are currently enjoying success despite the events of the last ten years: the flop albums...the cruise ship shows...the conning the fans scandal...etc...etc. The only reason Journey have emerged pretty much unscathed is that they were 'under the radar' the entire time...


I think the people who are going to see them are mostly the same people who went to see them with Augeri and JSS.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:33 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?



Well, the band are currently enjoying success despite the events of the last ten years: the flop albums...the cruise ship shows...the conning the fans scandal...etc...etc. The only reason Journey have emerged pretty much unscathed is that they were 'under the radar' the entire time...


I think the people who are going to see them are mostly the same people who went to see them with Augeri and JSS.



Maybe...but they aren't going to see them because of Augeri and JSS are they? A couple here and there perhaps...
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Postby Behshad » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:37 am

Matthew wrote:
Behshad wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?


I think Matthew was staring at them asses above while thinking and making that post..... :?



So what's the deal with that forum of yours, Beshad? I went through all the hassle of signing up and two weeks later I get an e-mail saying my membership has been cancelled because I haven't posted. Suffering from control-freakery issues over there by any chance?


youre an active member there mate....
That email goes out once in a while automatically to 'lurkers'.,,,
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:40 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:Keep in mind, however, that without Deano's contribution Journey could be dead and buried as well. They were on a slippery slope that started with the lipping, Dean outing them and them bringing JSS off the bench was what kept the band alived.



:roll:

Proggo, that whole situation would have sorted itself out sooner than later.
Burning them at the stake in effigy online was not a "contribution" to the band.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:41 am

Behshad wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Behshad wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gunbot wrote:This claim to fame shit about outing Steve Augeri is sickening. I am not a big fan of Augeri but without his contribution, Journey would be dead and buried.



If Journey had done absolutely nothing for the last ten years their career would probably be in even better shape....


Huh? :?


I think Matthew was staring at them asses above while thinking and making that post..... :?



So what's the deal with that forum of yours, Beshad? I went through all the hassle of signing up and two weeks later I get an e-mail saying my membership has been cancelled because I haven't posted. Suffering from control-freakery issues over there by any chance?


youre an active member there mate....
That email goes out once in a while automatically to 'lurkers'.,,,



Okay...great...I'll see you there then, Behshad.
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