The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[The_Noble_Cause]

However, given that there isn't one economist out there stating Obama's tax plan will help us out of this fiscal crisis, I certainly have my concerns.

I don't believe either candidate offers an economic silver bullet, but I've heard many economists endorse Obama.

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedst ... D=12342127

[Enigma869]

One other thing...if Al Franken wins a Senate seat in Minnesota, I will have lost all faith in humanity.

Why? This is the same state who voted a professional (and I use that term VERY loosely) wrestler as its Governor!


John from Boston

[treetopovskaya]

all jokes aside... i am saddened by the passing of obama's grandma. she should be very proud of him... whatever the outcome tomorrow. }:C)

obama really had no chance with me... it's all about mac. }:C)) i consider arizona my second home... lived there for 3 years (97-00) while hubby finished school... so to me mac is like fam. }:C))

[Monker]

I think you are smoking things. This is going to be a far closer race than anyone thought.

No it's not. I thought it would be closer then anybody expected, too. Predicting a 'landslide' is probably predicting it too close. I suppose if you thought Bush/Dukakis was close, then this one is too.

I didn't say Kerry had a lead, I am saying I heard from all sorts of Democrats in 2004 how Bush was going down and it was going to be a landslide, boy were they wrong.

This is a different situation. It was easy to predict an Obama win as McCain continued running Hillary's losing campaign strategy...But, nobody could have predicted the number of mistakes and political miscalculations that McCain would make. Sure, he likes to shoot from the hip, but he sure likes to shoot his own foot as he does it.

As you COULD be...I don't know...this race has become hard to judge.

No it hasn't. Only people who want McCain to win and can't face the reality that he has lost - by a wide margin - would say something like that. You are faced with four years of an extremely liberal president. You are faced with at least two years of a liberal democrat controlled congress...and maybe another decade of a liberal leaning supreme court.

McCain should have been president in 2000, not Bush. If that had happened, I doubt the Democrats would have such a sweeping mandate in this election.

[tj]

The real fun begins on Wednesday.

If Obama wins, it's 4 years of attacks against him by Republicans and also a lot of Democrats who don't get what they thought they were with Obama. He is not a fool and knows that if he delivers on all of the far left promises he made to get the wacko support, he will have to deal with a Republican congress in 2 years and he will be out of office in 4.

If McCain wins, we will hear forever about how he "stole" the election, the electoral college should be done away with, he caused 9/11, etc.

Either way, the real loser continues to be the American people.

[treetopovskaya]

biden discusses girl-girls girl-boys... wtf...

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03 ... ers-girls/

"But there's one important thing I noticed.The great thing about marrying into a family with five sisters, there's always one that loves you. 'Cause you can count on splitting them a bit. You know what I mean?"

WTF is he talking about???

[The_Noble_Cause]

McCain should have been president in 2000, not Bush. If that had happened, I doubt the Democrats would have such a sweeping mandate in this election.

I forget where I read it, but McCain initially was going to challenge Bush for his party's nomination in 2004, but after September 11th, thought better of it.
Thought that was interesting.

I agree with Stu - it will be close and I also predict PA will go for McCain.

[RossValoryRocks]

McCain should have been president in 2000, not Bush. If that had happened, I doubt the Democrats would have such a sweeping mandate in this election.

I forget where I read it, but McCain initially was going to challenge Bush for his party's nomination in 2004, but after September 11th, thought better of it.
Thought that was interesting.

I agree with Stu - it will be close and I also predict PA will go for McCain.

His coal comments today will doom him in Western PA (Regardless of what he really meant, so please don't tell me he didn't mean it, I know what he meant, but that isn't what has been put out here in PA), well the coal comments and the blathering of John Murtha...it has been on all the local TV and radio stations today...but if Philly comes in hard for Obama, Pennsylvania is his.

I think Obama is going to win, but it is going to be something on the order a 300 total for the electoral college for Obama...but if PA does go to McCain...all bets are off...

[The_Noble_Cause]

He is not a fool and knows that if he delivers on all of the far left promises he made to get the wacko support....

Like what?
Approving Bush's wiretaps?
Continuing to fund the war?
Promising to support Israel unequivocally?
Continuing Bush's faith-based government initiatives?
If Dems are lucky, he'll be as radical as Clinton...which is to say not very radical at all.

[RossValoryRocks]

TOTALLY OT: So...who here is rooting for the Steelers tonight?

[Enigma869]

biden discusses girl-girls girl-boys... wtf...

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03 ... ers-girls/

"But there's one important thing I noticed.The great thing about marrying into a family with five sisters, there's always one that loves you. 'Cause you can count on splitting them a bit. You know what I mean?"

WTF is he talking about???

Who the fuck knows. Biden is a fucking tard and always has been. Between he and Palin, I'm not sure they could pass a 5th grade achievement test!


John from Boston

[RossValoryRocks]

biden discusses girl-girls girl-boys... wtf...

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03 ... ers-girls/

"But there's one important thing I noticed.The great thing about marrying into a family with five sisters, there's always one that loves you. 'Cause you can count on splitting them a bit. You know what I mean?"

WTF is he talking about???

Who the fuck knows. Biden is a fucking tard and always has been. Between he and Palin, I'm not sure they could pass a 5th grade achievement test!


John from Boston

There is a ticket in 2012...I will work hard to get my own radio show if that happens because a person could make a million dollars easily picking on it...Biden/Palin or Palin/Biden 2012.."Because no level of stupidity is out of bounds!"

[Lula]

aw, i like joe. i saw this speech this morning... typical biden, made me laugh. i believe he is speaking to the good fortune of marrying a girl with many sisters- out of the bunch one is bound to like you.

after reading the story (link) posted by tree i clicked on another link to a joe the plumber story. maybe it's the cold medicine, but what the hell is he talking about???? he's one of those that won't go away . he's unemployed and broke, but he's buying his boss's business, lol

[Enigma869]

aw, i like joe.

And I like you Lula, so I won't hold it against you. I've actually never found Biden to be terribly likeable and his comments to Katie Couric (maybe it's Couric who turns everyone stupid) about FDR and TV in 1933 were flippin' RIDICULOUS! The only person in this entire race who can put a sentence together is Obama. Is it really that much to ask for an American politician to be somewhat eloquent? Much to my chagrin, W. has proven that it's not a prerequisite for the job.

after reading the story (link) posted by tree i clicked on another link to a joe the plumber story. maybe it's the cold medicine, but what the hell is he talking about???? he's one of those that won't go away . he's unemployed and broke, but he's buying his boss's business, lol

Sam the plumber REALLY needs to go the fuck away! The guy is fucking annoying! How McCain thinks this jackass has any value is beyond me. The guy is a fucking plumber and hired an agent! Only in America. Unreal!


John from Boston

[Jana]

On Plumber Joe, fine, their use of him in the beginning, okay, I get it. Now he goes around to a lot of their rallies. He's mentioned in all his speeches. Overkill. To me it was sad for McCain. He started his campaign so differently. But on his behalf, the losing candidate is always more desperate and starts grasping for anything. But I think he jumped the shark on the continual use of Plumber Joe.

[treetopovskaya]

i thought dems were the big tent party?

open minded/ non-judgmental my bootay. no compassion for a man who has dreams but you'll left up a women who uses her right to choose. whateva.

don't hate on joe the plumber just cuz he asked obama a question. it could have been any of us here. that is scary.

[treetopovskaya]

if joe is unemployed it's because he couldn't leave his home because of the media camped outside... from what i hear. then he went on the campaign trail with mac.

[Andrew]

Australian national phone poll today of support for each canidate went 89% / 11% in favor of Obama

[rdekker]

At least today is the day the world will be freed from the worst president the USA ever had. PEACE!

[annpea]

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quote="rdekker"]At least today is the day the world will be freed from the worst president the USA ever had. PEACE!

[/quote] Amen!!!

[RossValoryRocks]

Australian national phone poll today of support for each canidate went 89% / 11% in favor of Obama

Well thank God you can't vote in our elections then!

[Saint John]

Australian national phone poll today of support for each canidate went 89% / 11% in favor of Obama

I've always considered Australians to be only one step up from the short bus...if that.

[Skylorde]

Australian national phone poll today of support for each canidate went 89% / 11% in favor of Obama

Must be the heat

[conversationpc]

Australian national phone poll today of support for each canidate went 89% / 11% in favor of Obama

Must be the heat

You know that Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, right?

[annpea]

I have cast my vote , thank God!!, I have never seen such a heavy turnout so early in our little town and so orderly everyone was greeting each other like we were at a family function. This in the deep south is something amazing. The change has already started and it is so nice. If the rest of MS. is behaving this way then surely this is going to be an amazing election day.

[Rick]

Australian national phone poll today of support for each canidate went 89% / 11% in favor of Obama

I'd bet it would be similar in every country outside of this one.

[conversationpc]

Australian national phone poll today of support for each canidate went 89% / 11% in favor of Obama

I'd bet it would be similar in every country outside of this one.

Thank heavens we live here in America where people are smarter.

[Enigma869]

I'd bet it would be similar in every country outside of this one.

Right, because Americans are too aroused over their own party's candidate. It usually doesn't even matter where they stand on certain issues, which is sad. It's a reason that we don't usually have "landslide" presidential elections. Hell, the last president that even got more than 50% of the popular vote was Jimmy Carter and he barely got it, with 50.1%.


John from Boston

[Enigma869]

Thank heavens we live here in America where people are smarter.

No country that elects W. for one term is filled with brainiacs! Electing the guy twice tells me that we're a country who has the IQ of a turnip!


John from Boston

[Rick]

Thank heavens we live here in America where people are smarter.

No country that elects W. for one term in filled with brainiacs! Electing the guy twice tells me that we're a country who has the IQ of a turnip!


John from Boston