The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[RedWingFan]

Since 7Wishes was crying how nobody replied to the junk in this email (although DaveCPC) did. I'll give my 2 cents.

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic,
different.'

Last I remember it was Barack who was pointing out his being "different". Remember him saying he doesn't look like the people on our currency?

* Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American
story.

MMmmmm...okay.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

The name Barack has nothing to do with it. Associating with William Ayres, Saul Alinsky and Jeremiah Wright points to the "radical, unpatriotic" accusations.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

How is what Palin names her kids have to do with anything??? Stupid.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Harvard? No, allowing a convicted and unrepentant domestic America hating terrorist throw a fundraiser for you makes you unstable. Not to mention intentionally picking Joe Biden as your running mate.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.

This should be filed below naming her kids in order of importance.

* If you:

spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer

Brilliant? Do I have to bring up....."uh, breathalyzer"

*
become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review

Instead of referring to him as being "black" why don't you just call him "exotic"

* create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters

How many of these 150,000 registered voters are illegals or dead?

*
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees....

And pocketed how much money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in his short time that we get to pay for?

* If your total resume is:

local TV sports girl
4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people
20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people (47thleast-populated)...

then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

Yes, Mayor's and Governors are both "executive" offices. No present votes there.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising
2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.

2 beautiful daughters that were baptized by J. Wright. America created aids to kill off blacks. America deserved 9/11. He took his family and listened to this stuff on a regular basis. 'nuff said.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, divorced your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
Christian.

I thought we were comparing Presidential candidate Obama to VICE Presidential candidate Palin?
Oh, it's a bait and switch. Why should I have to defend John Kerry leaving his old lady for the Ketchup heiress? Somebody else can do it!!!!

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

.....to kindergartners!!!! Yeah, that's eroding.

[b]* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence-only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed
teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

I thought we were done with Palin? I guess the "responsible" thing to do would be to kill the baby?

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
restigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't
represent America's.

You're saying Michelle Obama represents "America's values"? Don't tell her that. She just became proud of America for the 1st time when Barack got the nomination. I'm sure she'd be insulted.

* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until
age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of
Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

I suppose if he had an underaged girl with him while drunk and drove off a bridge. We could call him "the distinguished Senator from Massachusets"?

[The_Noble_Cause]

who is joe biden?

};CP

More idiocy from Puppet Palin. This dopey chick needs to get some better advice.

I can't wait for the VP debates and she eats Joe Biden's lunch. I expect you to then come on here and say how "Karl Rove must have filled her head with all that crap."

LOL.
Even a Fox News producer has come out and stated that Palin's insulation from the press is "unprecedented".
Biden was easily the fiercest pugilist in the room throughout the Dem primary debates (second only to maybe Mike Gravel), this woman is walking into a lion's den.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/2 ... 28653.html

[RossValoryRocks]

Oh boy.....


FBI IVESTIGATING FREEDIE/FANNIE, LEHMAN AND AIG !!!


Now this IS going to be fun....

I want to see some folks handcuffed and frog marched out of DC...will they be D's or R's or both??

Oh my!

ABSOLUTELY BOTH.

FUCKING POLITICIANS!

Here is a short article on it: http://www.nysun.com/business/report-fb ... man/86430/

[SteveForever]

Hey all....

Got this in my email....please, feel free to copy & paste to send to whomever, if you want to.
_________________________________________________________________________________

BREAKIN' IT DOWN: DEMS & REPS:

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic,
different.'

* Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American
story.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.

* If you:

spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer
become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a districtwith over 750,000 people
become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees....

you don't have any real leadership experience.

* If your total resume is:

local TV sports girl
4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people
20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people (47thleast-populated)...

then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising
2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, divorced your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence-only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed
teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
restigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't
represent America's.

* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until
age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of
Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

so rude, I hope someone comes up with the slam to the other side...they are working class people that
want to serve, yet they are assholes for wanting to do so? who in this world is perfect enough to pass the
scrutiny?

[SteveForever]

Since 7Wishes was crying how nobody replied to the junk in this email (although DaveCPC) did. I'll give my 2 cents.

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic,
different.'

Last I remember it was Barack who was pointing out his being "different". Remember him saying he doesn't look like the people on our currency?

* Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American
story.

MMmmmm...okay.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

The name Barack has nothing to do with it. Associating with William Ayres, Saul Alinsky and Jeremiah Wright points to the "radical, unpatriotic" accusations.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

How is what Palin names her kids have to do with anything??? Stupid.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Harvard? No, allowing a convicted and unrepentant domestic America hating terrorist throw a fundraiser for you makes you unstable. Not to mention intentionally picking Joe Biden as your running mate.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.

This should be filed below naming her kids in order of importance.

* If you:

spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer

Brilliant? Do I have to bring up....."uh, breathalyzer"

*
become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review

Instead of referring to him as being "black" why don't you just call him "exotic"

* create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters

How many of these 150,000 registered voters are illegals or dead?

*
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees....

And pocketed how much money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in his short time that we get to pay for?

* If your total resume is:

local TV sports girl
4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people
20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people (47thleast-populated)...

then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

Yes, Mayor's and Governors are both "executive" offices. No present votes there.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising
2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.

2 beautiful daughters that were baptized by J. Wright. America created aids to kill off blacks. America deserved 9/11. He took his family and listened to this stuff on a regular basis. 'nuff said.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, divorced your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
Christian.

I thought we were comparing Presidential candidate Obama to VICE Presidential candidate Palin?
Oh, it's a bait and switch. Why should I have to defend John Kerry leaving his old lady for the Ketchup heiress? Somebody else can do it!!!!

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

.....to kindergartners!!!! Yeah, that's eroding.

[b]* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence-only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed
teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

I thought we were done with Palin? I guess the "responsible" thing to do would be to kill the baby?

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
restigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't
represent America's.

You're saying Michelle Obama represents "America's values"? Don't tell her that. She just became proud of America for the 1st time when Barack got the nomination. I'm sure she'd be insulted.

* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until
age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of
Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

I suppose if he had an underaged girl with him while drunk and drove off a bridge. We could call him "the distinguished Senator from Massachusets"?

good post

[treetopovskaya]

jobama is perfect!

yeah... right.

Hey all....

Got this in my email....please, feel free to copy & paste to send to whomever, if you want to.
_________________________________________________________________________________

BREAKIN' IT DOWN: DEMS & REPS:

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic,
different.'

* Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American
story.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.

* If you:

spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer
become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a districtwith over 750,000 people
become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees....

you don't have any real leadership experience.

* If your total resume is:

local TV sports girl
4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people
20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people (47thleast-populated)...

then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising
2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, divorced your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence-only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed
teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
restigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't
represent America's.

* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until
age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of
Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

so rude, I hope someone comes up with the slam to the other side...they are working class people that
want to serve, yet they are assholes for wanting to do so? who in this world is perfect enough to pass the
scrutiny?

[treetopovskaya]

i thought so as well... even tho it came from a wings fan. };C))

Since 7Wishes was crying how nobody replied to the junk in this email (although DaveCPC) did. I'll give my 2 cents.

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic,
different.'

Last I remember it was Barack who was pointing out his being "different". Remember him saying he doesn't look like the people on our currency?

* Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American
story.

MMmmmm...okay.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

The name Barack has nothing to do with it. Associating with William Ayres, Saul Alinsky and Jeremiah Wright points to the "radical, unpatriotic" accusations.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

How is what Palin names her kids have to do with anything??? Stupid.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Harvard? No, allowing a convicted and unrepentant domestic America hating terrorist throw a fundraiser for you makes you unstable. Not to mention intentionally picking Joe Biden as your running mate.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.

This should be filed below naming her kids in order of importance.

* If you:

spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer

Brilliant? Do I have to bring up....."uh, breathalyzer"

*
become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review

Instead of referring to him as being "black" why don't you just call him "exotic"

* create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters

How many of these 150,000 registered voters are illegals or dead?

*
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees....

And pocketed how much money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in his short time that we get to pay for?

* If your total resume is:

local TV sports girl
4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people
20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people (47thleast-populated)...

then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

Yes, Mayor's and Governors are both "executive" offices. No present votes there.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising
2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.

2 beautiful daughters that were baptized by J. Wright. America created aids to kill off blacks. America deserved 9/11. He took his family and listened to this stuff on a regular basis. 'nuff said.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, divorced your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
Christian.

I thought we were comparing Presidential candidate Obama to VICE Presidential candidate Palin?
Oh, it's a bait and switch. Why should I have to defend John Kerry leaving his old lady for the Ketchup heiress? Somebody else can do it!!!!

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

.....to kindergartners!!!! Yeah, that's eroding.

[b]* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence-only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed
teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

I thought we were done with Palin? I guess the "responsible" thing to do would be to kill the baby?

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
restigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't
represent America's.

You're saying Michelle Obama represents "America's values"? Don't tell her that. She just became proud of America for the 1st time when Barack got the nomination. I'm sure she'd be insulted.

* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until
age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of
Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

I suppose if he had an underaged girl with him while drunk and drove off a bridge. We could call him "the distinguished Senator from Massachusets"?

good post

[Lula]

here is an interesting piece by conservative george will, a revered member of the gop.

-- "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland"

Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama.

Channeling his inner Queen of Hearts, John McCain furiously, and apparently without even looking around at facts, said Chris Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, should be decapitated. This childish reflex provoked the Wall Street Journal to editorialize that "McCain untethered" -- disconnected from knowledge and principle -- had made a "false and deeply unfair" attack on Cox that was "unpresidential" and demonstrated that McCain "doesn't understand what's happening on Wall Street any better than Barack Obama does."
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To read the Journal's details about the depths of McCain's shallowness on the subject of Cox's chairmanship, see "McCain's Scapegoat" (Sept. 19). Then consider McCain's characteristic accusation that Cox "has betrayed the public's trust."

Perhaps an old antagonism is involved in McCain's fact-free slander. His most conspicuous economic adviser is Douglas Holtz-Eakin, who previously headed the Congressional Budget Office. There he was an impediment to conservatives, including then-Rep. Cox, who, as chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, persistently tried and generally failed to enlist CBO support for "dynamic scoring" that would estimate the economic growth effects of proposed tax cuts.

In any case, McCain's smear -- that Cox "betrayed the public's trust" -- is a harbinger of a McCain presidency. For McCain, politics is always operatic, pitting people who agree with him against those who are "corrupt" or "betray the public's trust," two categories that seem to be exhaustive -- there are no other people. McCain's Manichaean worldview drove him to his signature legislative achievement, the McCain-Feingold law's restrictions on campaigning. Today, his campaign is creatively finding interstices in laws intended to restrict campaign giving and spending. (For details, see The Post of Sept. 17; and the New York Times of Sept. 19.)

By a Gresham's Law of political discourse, McCain's Queen of Hearts intervention in the opaque financial crisis overshadowed a solid conservative complaint from the Republican Study Committee, chaired by Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas. In a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, the RSC decried the improvised torrent of bailouts as a "dangerous and unmistakable precedent for the federal government both to be looked to and indeed relied upon to save private sector companies from the consequences of their poor economic decisions." This letter, listing just $650 billion of the perhaps more than $1 trillion in new federal exposures to risk, was sent while McCain's campaign, characteristically substituting vehemence for coherence, was airing an ad warning that Obama favors "massive government, billions in spending increases."

The political left always aims to expand the permeation of economic life by politics. Today, the efficient means to that end is government control of capital. So, is not McCain's party now conducting the most leftist administration in American history? The New Deal never acted so precipitously on such a scale. Treasury Secretary Paulson, asked about conservative complaints that his rescue program amounts to socialism, said, essentially: This is not socialism, this is necessary. That non sequitur might be politically necessary, but remember that government control of capital is government control of capitalism. Does McCain have qualms about this, or only quarrels?

On "60 Minutes" Sunday evening, McCain, saying "this may sound a little unusual," said that he would like to replace Cox with Andrew Cuomo, the Democratic attorney general of New York who is the son of former governor Mario Cuomo. McCain explained that Cuomo has "respect" and "prestige" and could "lend some bipartisanship." Conservatives have been warned.

Conservatives who insist that electing McCain is crucial usually start, and increasingly end, by saying he would make excellent judicial selections. But the more one sees of his impulsive, intensely personal reactions to people and events, the less confidence one has that he would select judges by calm reflection and clear principles, having neither patience nor aptitude for either.

It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... x1&sub=new

[RedWingFan]

here is an interesting piece by conservative george will, a revered member of the gop.

Well, our choice is McCain or a Marxist. We don't have much choice do we?

[Lula]

marxist we have a socialist government now.... why not?

look at those red states go blue

[RedWingFan]

:lol: marxist we have a socialist government now.... why not?

Because some of us would rather have our freedom rather than handouts....some of us.

look at those red states go blue

Keep dreaming. Obama's losing in a landslide. The media's already calling us racist anticipating his loss.

[Lula]

:lol: marxist we have a socialist government now.... why not?

Because some of us would rather have our freedom rather than handouts....some of us.

look at those red states go blue

Keep dreaming. Obama's losing in a landslide. The media's already calling us racist anticipating his loss.

well it seems your party is doling out the handouts- big time, but it is not for the little guy! in all fairness, both sides played a role in this one. how is an obama presidency a threat to your freedom? losing in a landslide? come on rwf, where are you getting this info?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... cain/#data i believe this is a pretty good estimate of the tone .

[RedWingFan]

:lol: marxist we have a socialist government now.... why not?

Because some of us would rather have our freedom rather than handouts....some of us.

look at those red states go blue

Keep dreaming. Obama's losing in a landslide. The media's already calling us racist anticipating his loss.

well it seems your party is doling out the handouts- big time, but it is not for the little guy! in all fairness, both sides played a role in this one. how is an obama presidency a threat to your freedom? losing in a landslide? come on rwf, where are you getting this info?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... cain/#data i believe this is a pretty good estimate of the tone .

First of all it's called the Bradley effect. Look it up. Secondly, Obama has declined 12 offers for town hall debates for a reason. He's a horrible debater. He's gonna get waxed. Bank it! But of course the groundwork is being laid that it's because we're all racists.

[Lula]

First of all it's called the Bradley effect. Look it up. Secondly, Obama has declined 12 offers for town hall debates for a reason. He's a horrible debater. He's gonna get waxed. Bank it! But of course the groundwork is being laid that it's because we're all racists.

living in los angeles i am well aware of the Bradley effect. wishful thinking there rwf. the margin is getting bigger daily and will only grow after friday night's debate and especially the vp debate. this board has become fun fodder for our family reading! we all laugh hysterically at you republicans and your hopeful, wishful and desperate thinking.

[Lula]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

[Lula]

he is begging me to allow him on here...oh lord.

[scarygirl]

he is begging me to allow him on here...oh lord.

I'll mail you five dollars.

[donnaplease]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

[RedWingFan]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

Ever notice how democrats always look so strong in polling? Remember Kerry's aide actually calling him "Mr. President" after the exit polls were counted?
Did you see how McCain close within 5 in New York? Believe me Dean. McCain's going to win and it won't be close.

[scarygirl]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

If he gets Virginia and NC, I'm heading for the nearest bomb shelter.

[SteveForever]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

I bet it goes to litigation the day after the election, its gonna be so close and no one is going
down without a fight..

[RedWingFan]

he is begging me to allow him on here...oh lord.

I'll mail you five dollars.

That was Dean. His posting style all the way.

[treetopovskaya]

obama is desperate. that's why he threw the race card. }:C|

[Lula]

also,

i see obama has picked up iowa, colorado and virginia and probably nevada...all red states in 2004. oh and i see florida has some new polls with obama leading. heck, even north carolina will be close..lol, i love the fact walnuts has to work, and spend money in states he should already have locked up.

how many blue states is walnuts going to pick up?

dean is predicting a 85+ electoral college win. you cannot smear enough to erase a "landslide" he says.

No way he gets Virginia.

northern VA will decide it. he blows walnuts away there.

count on it.

thanks for the 13 electoral college votes Virginia.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Secondly, Obama has declined 12 offers for town hall debates for a reason. He's a horrible debater.

Those were debate invites extended by the McCain camp to Obama.
Obama has no responsibility to help drum up publicity for the Republican candidate in what would be a decidedly GOP-skewed publicity event.
Why give McCain the home field advantage?
McCain's frank town hall meetings, by the way, are by invite only - another Bush hallmark.

As an aside, I watched all the debates. They are both terrible debaters.

[Lula]

he is begging me to allow him on here...oh lord.

I'll mail you five dollars.

That was Dean. His posting style all the way.

um, no, it is all me. sorry to disappoint you rwf.

[donnaplease]

obama is desperate. that's why he threw the race card. }:C|

If that's the case (not saying it is or isn't) what is the angle? To guilt his party into voting for him? It is the democratic voters that they're talking about that aren't 'comfortable' with a black candidate, isn't it?

[Lula]

No way he gets Virginia.

actually, we don't need virginia, so keep the 13 ec's. we have plenty already

[RedWingFan]

he is begging me to allow him on here...oh lord.

I'll mail you five dollars.

That was Dean. His posting style all the way.

um, no, it is all me. sorry to disappoint you rwf.

You expect me to believe Lula called McCain "walnuts"?

[Lula]

obama is desperate. that's why he threw the race card. }:C|

If that's the case (not saying it is or isn't) what is the angle? To guilt his party into voting for him? It is the democratic voters that they're talking about that aren't 'comfortable' with a black candidate, isn't it?

obama really isn't black. he was born to a black father and a white mom.

ok, enough here. jeopardy is on.