vocal coach and stevie

[journey361]

Whats the dirty dozen, is it the trial by fire album?

[whirlwind]

Now, are all loons in the same catagory?

No. Some are good people that are merely fans that, to some degree, have blinders on, some are stalkers that should be put to sleep (see half of "Perryville") and some are lobotomized wastes of space that should be set on fire and tossed into a wood chipper.

At this stage of his life, I doubt he has trouble with stalkers. It's been written that most who approach him are polite and he is said to be gracious.

The men who are his fans are going to see him in a whole different light than how the women see him. That's a given.

After all the trouble with how the band has treated or mistreated their frontman for the past decade and a half, you should maybe make some concessions in your blame game.

Dig out your Frontiers video and see how many times you can catch Schon hitting the bottle backstage. HH even calls him on it. He muct have been a joy to work with.

[Saint John]

After all the trouble with how the band has treated or mistreated their frontman for the past decade and a half, you should maybe make some concessions in your blame game.

Journey has treated their frontmen just fine. They waited for Perry till the cows came home. They endured long layoffs, fired members, aborted lineups, and a recorded album that he had no intention of ever touring behind. He fired himself. They pulled Augeri from fixing shitters and he's now sitting at home rolling around in piles of money. Man, they treated him like shit! His demise was as much his own fault as anyone. While I doubt he came up with the insane idea of singing into a micrphone that wasn't on, he did do it. Soto came in and made mad cash while helping finish a tour. Unfortunately, after daily leaks about sensitive band information, drunken entourages embarrassing/pestering the band, other bands and management, and a change in what the band thought was the right direction, they made a change.

While a drunk Neal Schon had to be about as much fun to work with as snapping a mouse trap on your genitals, the man came to work every day and just wanted to write, record and tour. There's a "concession" for you.

[whirlwind]

Care to elaborate?

Certainly.

I preface this with full acknowledgment (and hope) that you're espousing Lunacy in total jest.

I would bet that Perry loves his loons most of all. We are the fans that never stopped believing in him and want only him singing the dirty doz. We are Journey/Perry all the way and just as he has no interest in the band, other than his time spent with them, neither do we.

What's the harm? I think that there is pride in being a Perryloon. He has a huge following of totally loyal fans who will accept no if ands or buts where he is concerned. I agree Carol, he can walk on water.

That's a dangerous and unheathly line of thought, if you're being serious, that most people reserve only for their chosen gods and religions. If Christians are correct, Jesus Christ was a man born without vice or sin and so enjoyed a certain status above saints and prophets; regarded by his followers as a perfect creature. Yet if they're to be believed, he also died for our weakness. You basically extend Steve Perry the same status, despite the fact that he has done nothing other than help give us some great music over the years and being born with an incredible voice. Great accomplishments to be sure, but hardly the stuff of someone who is faultless, as you have suggested that he is.

Oh, I am certain that he loves all his fans but as I wrote in my first sentence. I would bet that he loves his loons most of all. I didn't state it as fact, I wrote that I would bet.

Sure, there are lots of Steve Perry fans but some of these fans diss him for the decisions he made, all in good faith, during his time with the band. He gave his all to the band while he was able and has been a class act about that band up to the present.
I still think that he loves his loons best.

In my opinion, you're either a loon, such as I or you are simply a Steve Perry fan. A loon will only identify Journey with Perry and have complete understanding of his decisions while with the band.
It seems that many want to be considered a loon but forget it. It's all or nothing. Complete loyalty! No "I love him but...."

The embolded sentences strike a resonant chord of moral absolutism, which creates a schism, draws lines, and conjures thoughts of President Bush's infamous "you're with us or you're with the terrorists" line or, if you're a Star Wars fan, the great line "only a Sith deals in absolutes." You (again, hopefully jokingly) acknowledge that there is no acknowledgment of Steve Perry's mistakes during his tenure with the band, citing vague rationale that must be accepted in order to be a member in this most elite Order of Loons, saying it's all or nothing.

That's not something to be proud of. It's actually, quite frankly, sick.

Oh Gid, don't be so anal. Of coarse the walking on water was tongue in cheek and I didn't imply that he could do no wrong. I stated that I understood the chain of events as the band went to it's height and Perry's burnout. I have a different understanding of the ROR happening and also the TBF reunion. You are free to think what you do about it all and I will play it my way.

Sorry that you don't qualify for "The Elite Order Of Loons."

[portland]

I need more clarification - Can you be a Steve Perry fan and not want a replacement for the lead singer of Journey and not be a loon? I mean I don't want to see AP or anyone else for that matter sing the Journey songs that I listen to Steve Perry sing and co-wrote...I don't mind him singing stuff that was not already done by Perry...but for me I think it all should have been left alone. So does that make me a loon?

New here - remember be nice if you can

[whirlwind]

After all the trouble with how the band has treated or mistreated their frontman for the past decade and a half, you should maybe make some concessions in your blame game.

Journey has treated their frontmen just fine. They waited for Perry till the cows came home. They endured long layoffs, fired members, aborted lineups, and a recorded album that he had no intention of ever touring behind. He fired himself. They pulled Augeri from fixing shitters and he's now sitting at home rolling around in piles of money. Man, they treated him like shit! His demise was as much his own fault as anyone. While I doubt he came up with the insane idea of singing into a micrphone that wasn't on, he did do it. Soto came in and made mad cash while helping finish a tour. Unfortunately, after daily leaks about sensitive band information, drunken entourages embarrassing/pestering the band, other bands and management, and a change in what the band thought was the right direction, they made a change.

While a drunk Neal Schon had to be about as much fun to work with as snapping a mouse trap on your genitals, the man came to work every day and just wanted to write, record and tour. There's a "concession" for you.

I do think that it was the fact that the band had a change of instruments at their disposal whereas Perry had only his vocals and he stopped and started when he felt he had to.

[whirlwind]

I need more clarification - Can you be a Steve Perry fan and not want a replacement for the lead singer of Journey and not be a loon? I mean I don't want to see AP or anyone else for that matter sing the Journey songs that I listen to Steve Perry sing and co-wrote...I don't mind him singing stuff that was not already done by Perry...but for me I think it all should have been left alone. So does that make me a loon?

New here - remember be nice if you can

Now was that so hard? Welcome to the elite. :lol

[Saint John]

I do think that it was the fact that the band had a change of instruments at their disposal whereas Perry had only his vocals and he stopped and started when he felt he had to.

That's a great point and I agree with it. Just be honest with your bandmates and let them move on. Don't tour without them, break up lineups and record albums and say you're going to tour when you have no intention of doing so!

[Jubilee]

In my opinion, you're either a loon, such as I or you are simply a Steve Perry fan. A loon will only identify Journey with Perry and have complete understanding of his decisions while with the band.
It seems that many want to be considered a loon but forget it. It's all or nothing. Complete loyalty! No "I love him but...."

Oh, poo-poo, windy. I'm a full-blooded, card carrying, dyed in the wool LOON, but I'm not a fool. Clearly, there were times while with Journey when SMFP MUST have lost his damned mind - even he acknowledges that. Because none of us were there (presumably), there is no way any of us can have complete understanding of his decisions with the band. We can sympathize, maybe even empathize, but we cannot pretend to understand any of it - there are just too many key pieces missing to this puzzle. And quite frankly, some of Perry's side of the story is a little fishy at times.

Now, do I believe Steve Perry walks on water? No. (but I'm pretty sure I read something about him being born in a manger, wrapped in swaddling clothing)

[artist4perry]

SJ there are layers of loondom. I for one do not see Steve as perfect, but as human, I agree with the post above. He has done his share of mistakes.

But bands fight, that is pretty common. I was not there, and I am staying out of their mess. I just want to love the music, and I am not into playing monday night psychiatrist on the band. Never been one for fault finding missions.

Steve is a great singer, and I have respect for his art. But I have no desire to follow, anoy, stalk, or be with him on a daily basis. I would like to meet him on his terms someday. Maybe a meet and greet. But this is not a lifes goal, if I never meet him I would be fine. I have not withered away from not meeting him to date.

If anyone does not like him this is their right. I am not your mom. I don't want to tell you who to like. I will voice an opposing oppinion if I so choose. Nothing personal to you, just an opposing oppinion.

O.K. with that?

Sounds logical to me, Ginger! For me, from 1981-1983 and to some degree even in 1986, he had the greatest voice I've ever heard. That said, his actions as a bandmate and his desire to bury a band that wasn't his rather than have it move on without him have soured my view of him as a person. None of the band members are mistake free, but I don't think any of them besides him actually wanted to put an end to Journey. *I* believe he did.

This is your oppinion and I am O.K with that. I don't agree, but I understand where you stand. Now, are all loons in the same catagory?

In my opinion, you're either a loon, such as I or you are simply a Steve Perry fan. A loon will only identify Journey with Perry and have complete understanding of his decisions while with the band.
It seems that many want to be considered a loon but forget it. It's all or nothing. Complete loyalty! No "I love him but...."

Out of curiosity who dubbed this as the be all and do all of loondom? I think I am a huge fan and have been so for a long time. Now I am not a stalker, or a blind drooler who thinks he can do no wrong. I am not sure even Steve would be comfortable with this.

I think he is quite human, and in being so is capable of mistakes, ones he even owns up to. To make him on a god like status is not allowing him to be who he really is. I laugh at fans that are so over the top they cannot envision their illustrious leader to fart, take a crap ..........etc....you get the picture.

As far as I love him but......I am married and only love my husband. I respect Steve as an artist, I think he is hansome, but don't want to be with him. Reality check for some........he cannot marry you all! LOL! And what if he was married....gasp! Would some of your worlds explode?

I made a quilt with his and the bands faces on them. It took me two years to complete, and it had over 3,000 peices stitched together with intricate embroidery I designed myself........I think that qualifies me as being more than a passing fan, with no loyalty involved.........I am just not borderline stalker material............

[Peartree12249]

SJ there are layers of loondom. I for one do not see Steve as perfect, but as human, I agree with the post above. He has done his share of mistakes.

But bands fight, that is pretty common. I was not there, and I am staying out of their mess. I just want to love the music, and I am not into playing monday night psychiatrist on the band. Never been one for fault finding missions.

Steve is a great singer, and I have respect for his art. But I have no desire to follow, anoy, stalk, or be with him on a daily basis. I would like to meet him on his terms someday. Maybe a meet and greet. But this is not a lifes goal, if I never meet him I would be fine. I have not withered away from not meeting him to date.

If anyone does not like him this is their right. I am not your mom. I don't want to tell you who to like. I will voice an opposing oppinion if I so choose. Nothing personal to you, just an opposing oppinion.

O.K. with that?

I have to agree with you A4P. I really don't think I'd want to meet Steve Perry does that mean I'm not a loon? Are they going to demand their membership card back? I don't know how Dan became the self-appointed arbiter of what a loon is, but for the record, like you, I am not a fanatic, stalker, Perry apologist, Neal hater, Journey w/o Perry hater, I do not worship Perry. He's just a guy with a fabulous God-given gift who made some amazing music with some other very talented and creative people and for a brief period in time they created magic. And I fervently hope he will again, but if he doesn't, life will go on.

[whirlwind]

I do think that it was the fact that the band had a change of instruments at their disposal whereas Perry had only his vocals and he stopped andThey tried to move on without him started when he felt he had to.

That's a great point and I agree with it. Just be honest with your bandmates and let them move on. Don't tour without them, break up lineups and record albums and say you're going to tour when you have no intention of doing so!

They tried to move on without him Dan and the inner fighting with Storm was worse than with Journey. Schon did the solo bit first and neither Smitty or Perry intended any heavy touring. I remember it being like two or three shows a week.

I wish that someone would set you straight about ROR and the so called lineup break. I bet that Ross would set you straight in minutes flat. Smitty would tell you the truth if you could get an interview. Journeyman 28 had the goods on that and it was posted here at one time.

[Jana]

SJ there are layers of loondom. I for one do not see Steve as perfect, but as human, I agree with the post above. He has done his share of mistakes.

But bands fight, that is pretty common. I was not there, and I am staying out of their mess. I just want to love the music, and I am not into playing monday night psychiatrist on the band. Never been one for fault finding missions.

Steve is a great singer, and I have respect for his art. But I have no desire to follow, anoy, stalk, or be with him on a daily basis. I would like to meet him on his terms someday. Maybe a meet and greet. But this is not a lifes goal, if I never meet him I would be fine. I have not withered away from not meeting him to date.

If anyone does not like him this is their right. I am not your mom. I don't want to tell you who to like. I will voice an opposing oppinion if I so choose. Nothing personal to you, just an opposing oppinion.

O.K. with that?

I have to agree with you A4P. I really don't think I'd want to meet Steve Perry does that mean I'm not a loon? Are they going to demand their membership card back? I don't know how Dan became the self-appointed arbiter of what a loon is, but for the record, like you, I am not a fanatic, stalker, Perry apologist, Neal hater, Journey w/o Perry hater, I do not worship Perry. He's just a guy with a fabulous God-given gift who made some amazing music with some other very talented and creative people and for a brief period in time they created magic. And I fervently hope he will again, but if he doesn't, life will go on.

You're not a Loon according to Whirlwind's definition.

[journey361]

I don't know how to explain SP's voice and whatever tools he used (circa, 1977-1982). But their is no doubt in my mind, something unreal was going on with his voice. It was magical. I've listened to SO MANY singers, good and bad, solo and with groups, but i can honestly say no one has that sound (whatever it was with his voice) like that. He was the best and carried the change probably better than he would admit as his tenure ended. There are many great singers with their own trade and tools, i wonder what ears will capture 75 to 100 years from now when they hear his music. He's plain different and was rare as hell. Again, before Journey and 2 years with them.

[artist4perry]

SJ there are layers of loondom. I for one do not see Steve as perfect, but as human, I agree with the post above. He has done his share of mistakes.

But bands fight, that is pretty common. I was not there, and I am staying out of their mess. I just want to love the music, and I am not into playing monday night psychiatrist on the band. Never been one for fault finding missions.

Steve is a great singer, and I have respect for his art. But I have no desire to follow, anoy, stalk, or be with him on a daily basis. I would like to meet him on his terms someday. Maybe a meet and greet. But this is not a lifes goal, if I never meet him I would be fine. I have not withered away from not meeting him to date.

If anyone does not like him this is their right. I am not your mom. I don't want to tell you who to like. I will voice an opposing oppinion if I so choose. Nothing personal to you, just an opposing oppinion.

O.K. with that?

I have to agree with you A4P. I really don't think I'd want to meet Steve Perry does that mean I'm not a loon? Are they going to demand their membership card back? I don't know how Dan became the self-appointed arbiter of what a loon is, but for the record, like you, I am not a fanatic, stalker, Perry apologist, Neal hater, Journey w/o Perry hater, I do not worship Perry. He's just a guy with a fabulous God-given gift who made some amazing music with some other very talented and creative people and for a brief period in time they created magic. And I fervently hope he will again, but if he doesn't, life will go on.

You're not a Loon according to Whirlwind's definition.

Ask Whirlwind for her SPIN Card...........I have one............. PS. kiddin WW.

[Saint John]

Smitty would tell you the truth if you could get an interview.

I've met Mr. Smith on two occasions and I'll just say that the mere mention of "Steve Perry" seemed to put him in a foul mood. The eye rolling was pretty tell-tale as well. Here's another odd occurrence. When Tito and I went to see Jim Peterik's World Stage this year we were standing in line to meet Jimi Jamison and Rik Emmett when David Pack came over. I'm not sure what we were talking about but someone mentioned Perry's name and Pack got up and immediately left, never to be seen again for the rest of the night. Coincidence? Perhaps, but I was recently told that they have some minor feud going on. Whether or not that's true I have no idea, but I've talked to quite a few famous musicians over the last decade or two and, aside from his voice, the compliments have been few and far between when people talk about Perry.

[Jubilee]

Smitty would tell you the truth if you could get an interview.

I've met Mr. Smith on two occasions and I'll just say that the mere mention of "Steve Perry" seemed to put him in a foul mood. The eye rolling was pretty tell-tale as well. Here's another odd occurrence. When Tito and I went to see Jim Peterik's World Stage this year we were standing in line to meet Jimi Jamison and Rik Emmett when David Pack came over. I'm not sure what we were talking about but someone mentioned Perry's name and Pack got up and immediately left, never to be seen again for the rest of the night. Coincidence? Perhaps, but I was recently told that they have some minor feud going on. Whether or not that's true I have no idea, but I've talked to quite a few famous musicians over the last decade or two and, aside from his voice, the compliments have been few and far between when people talk about Perry.

Seriously SJ, what, exactly, is your point? Perry's an a-hole? Duly noted. So, now what?

[Don]

Turtle cocks

[Deb]

In my opinion, you're either a loon, such as I or you are simply a Steve Perry fan. A loon will only identify Journey with Perry and have complete understanding of his decisions while with the band.
It seems that many want to be considered a loon but forget it. It's all or nothing. Complete loyalty! No "I love him but...."

Um no, I'm thinking those are the ones that probably scare him a bit.

So what category does a Martinized Sotomized Loon (or is it "Spoon" now? ) fit into?!

[Jubilee]

In my opinion, you're either a loon, such as I or you are simply a Steve Perry fan. A loon will only identify Journey with Perry and have complete understanding of his decisions while with the band.
It seems that many want to be considered a loon but forget it. It's all or nothing. Complete loyalty! No "I love him but...."

Um no, I'm thinking those are the ones that probably scare him a bit.

So what category does a Martinized Sotomized Loon (or is it "Spoon" now? ) fit into?!

I'm telling ya Deb, the first time I read that, I was like....

[artist4perry]

In my opinion, you're either a loon, such as I or you are simply a Steve Perry fan. A loon will only identify Journey with Perry and have complete understanding of his decisions while with the band.
It seems that many want to be considered a loon but forget it. It's all or nothing. Complete loyalty! No "I love him but...."

Um no, I'm thinking those are the ones that probably scare him a bit.

So what category does a Martinized Sotomized Loon (or is it "Spoon" now? ) fit into?!

If they don't scare him they sure scare me........... When did yo get Sotomized?

[Rhiannon]

Sotomized

You should come up with a better word for that. Misreads as "sodomized" very easily!

[artist4perry]

Sotomized

You should come up with a better word for that. Misreads as "sodomized" very easily!

I had to read it twice!

[Saint John]

Sotomized

You should come up with a better word for that. Misreads as "sodomized" very easily!

Let the lady dream, Rhi!

[Deb]

Sotomized

You should come up with a better word for that. Misreads as "sodomized" very easily!

Gawd you people! Here, grab my hand and let me pull you up out of that there gutter. Sorry, went with martinized.

[artist4perry]

Sotomized

You should come up with a better word for that. Misreads as "sodomized" very easily!

Gawd you people! Here, grab my hand and let me pull you up out of that there gutter.

Sorry Deb, I have had a hard day with some difficult students and I had my glasses off..............I went........huh???????? And could not resist.............

Truth be told your a loon too. No one has the right to judge others on if they are loons are not. A fan is a loon. If you love pics of him, love his voice, collect memorabilia of his, I think that is a pretty good sign. And who knows what is loondom? We all vary like personalities do..............

You are so funny girl......I laughed out loud on that one! Thank you it has been an awful day. The boy who lost his mom came in today, and he looked so lost. It has been a hard couple of weeks and you guys humor and kindness has made it so much easier to go in each day and do what is needed to be done.

Deb I think the world of ya!

[Liquid_Drummer]

Smitty would tell you the truth if you could get an interview.

I've met Mr. Smith on two occasions and I'll just say that the mere mention of "Steve Perry" seemed to put him in a foul mood. The eye rolling was pretty tell-tale as well. Here's another odd occurrence. When Tito and I went to see Jim Peterik's World Stage this year we were standing in line to meet Jimi Jamison and Rik Emmett when David Pack came over. I'm not sure what we were talking about but someone mentioned Perry's name and Pack got up and immediately left, never to be seen again for the rest of the night. Coincidence? Perhaps, but I was recently told that they have some minor feud going on. Whether or not that's true I have no idea, but I've talked to quite a few famous musicians over the last decade or two and, aside from his voice, the compliments have been few and far between when people talk about Perry.

Seriously SJ, what, exactly, is your point? Perry's an a-hole? Duly noted. So, now what?

I have met Steve Smith on two occasions. Made NO mention of Journey or Steve Perry in any way. He was still arrogant and obviously self important. He apologized for his attitude through Bernard, the owner of drummerworld.com. Here is the PM I received from Bernard.

Hi Mark,

I read your comments about the behaviour of Steve Smith and i'm really concerned. As you know, i'm a good friend of him personally and we meet really often for dinner with the Hudson Guys.

for sure, your wrote everything totally correct and ok - but anyway, i remove this part of the thread.

But be sure: I showed it to Steve and he promised me to change his attitude and says that if he put a damper that he is very sorry. (really!!!!!)

Is this deal ok for you?

thanks for understanding.

Bernhard,

Any way, he wasnt a dick to me personally. It was the staff of the local music store that was taking care of the drum clinic and PAYING HIM for it which was all done per Steve's specs with NO MISTAKES. He shows up and Ryan (the drum department manager) says,

"Steve, a real pleasure, nice to meet you, Im Ryan..... And before he could get his last name out Steve cuts him off by saying GOT MY CHECK rather rudely and loudly with the obvious intent to take control of the conversation. Ryan says with wide eyes, umm yes, right here and hands it to him. Steve takes the check, turns around and walks off.. This is one example of 3 situations that made me loose all respect for him..

Still love his drumming and dont care that he is a dick. Glad he didnt pull that shit with me. I would have called him out fast. I dont are who the fuck you are. IF you are rude to me you get rude x2 back. Well, unless you have a gun or a major size advantge that is.

[Deb]

Sotomized

You should come up with a better word for that. Misreads as "sodomized" very easily!

Gawd you people! Here, grab my hand and let me pull you up out of that there gutter.

Sorry Deb, I have had a hard day with some difficult students and I had my glasses off..............I went........huh???????? And could not resist.............

Truth be told your a loon too. No one has the right to judge others on if they are loons are not. A fan is a loon. If you love pics of him, love his voice, collect memorabilia of his, I think that is a pretty good sign. And who knows what is loondom? We all vary like personalities do..............

You are so funny girl......I laughed out loud on that one! Thank you it has been an awful day. The boy who lost his mom came in today, and he looked so lost. It has been a hard couple of weeks and you guys humor and kindness has made it so much easier to go in each day and do what is needed to be done.

Deb I think the world of ya!

Right back at ya Ginger and sorry you had such a rough day......big hugz! LOL, I should have picked up on that myself, usually have a pretty good built-in spellcheck for dirty words.

[Peartree12249]

In my opinion, you're either a loon, such as I or you are simply a Steve Perry fan. A loon will only identify Journey with Perry and have complete understanding of his decisions while with the band.
It seems that many want to be considered a loon but forget it. It's all or nothing. Complete loyalty! No "I love him but...."

Um no, I'm thinking those are the ones that probably scare him a bit.

So what category does a Martinized Sotomized Loon (or is it "Spoon" now? ) fit into?!

You were sotomized at the dry cleaners? OUCH doesn't that hurt?
Sorry, I read it wrong...sorry

[Saint John]

I have met Steve Smith on two occasions. Made NO mention of Journey or Steve Perry in any way. He was still arrogant and obviously self important. He apologized for his attitude through Bernard, the owner of drummerworld.com. Here is the PM I received from Bernard.

Hi Mark,

I read your comments about the behaviour of Steve Smith and i'm really concerned. As you know, i'm a good friend of him personally and we meet really often for dinner with the Hudson Guys.

for sure, your wrote everything totally correct and ok - but anyway, i remove this part of the thread.

But be sure: I showed it to Steve and he promised me to change his attitude and says that if he put a damper that he is very sorry. (really!!!!!)

Is this deal ok for you?

thanks for understanding.

Bernhard,

Any way, he wasnt a dick to me personally. It was the staff of the local music store that was taking care of the drum clinic and PAYING HIM for it which was all done per Steve's specs with NO MISTAKES. He shows up and Ryan (the drum department manager) says,

"Steve, a real pleasure tonice to meet you, Im Ryan..... And before he could get his last name out Steve cuts him off by saying GOT MY CHECK rather rudely. Ryan says with wide eyes, umm yes, right here and hands it to him. Steve takes the check, turns around and walks off.. This is one example of 3 situations that made me loose all respect for him..

Still love his drumming and dont care that he is a dick. Glad he didnt pull that shit with me. I would have called him out fast. I dont are who the fuck you are. IF you are rude to me you get rude x2 back. Well, unless you have a gun or a major size advantge that is.

Thanks for the story, LD. He was definitely a dickhead in the story you mentioned. Guy couldn't have been nicer to me. Tito, Rhiannon and BJG were there with me when saw him a few months ago. I offered him $20 for a drumstick and he said he couldn't take it, but if I bought a $20 CD he'd give it to me for nothing. So I did. May have helped that I'm a foot taller than him and I was blind drunk. He actually looked pretty scared. I'm an ugly motherfucker so I know I tend to have that effect on people. In all seriousness, though, he was really cool that night.