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Thoughts on a new Perry CD

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:18 am
by Art Vandelay
Any thoughts on what style of music you would like to hear on a new Perry CD, if he does decide to go forth with one? Would you like to hear more ballads? Uptempo rock? Or would you like to hear him experiment with a different style?
Maybe a downtempo jazz feel?
One of my favorite vocals of his is on Sandcastles on the Dream After Dream soundtrack. The way that he plays off of Smith's jazz fills is amazing. I always though of this song as sort of a duet with him and Smith.
PS - no I am not Perry, trying to ruin the Revelation review threads


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:21 am
by SteveForever
He's all soul, would love to hear some jazz and all love songs type cd !!!

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:22 am
by Saint John
There will be no new CD.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:24 am
by Art Vandelay
Would be nice to hear his interpretation of some Motown classics too.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:24 am
by SteveForever
Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
FOOL

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:26 am
by conversationpc
SteveForever wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
FOOL
I wouldn't be surprised if the new material he is supposedly working on never sees the light of day.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:27 am
by SteveForever
conversationpc wrote:SteveForever wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
FOOL
I wouldn't be surprised if the new material he is supposedly working on never sees the light of day.
Was anyone talking to you?


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:29 am
by conversationpc
SteveForever wrote:conversationpc wrote:SteveForever wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
FOOL
I wouldn't be surprised if the new material he is supposedly working on never sees the light of day.
Was anyone talking to you?



Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:31 am
by Onestepper
Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
Agree. You can only cry..or sing..'wolf' so many times that you flat out lose credibility. If he did happen to put something out, I want it to be new stuff. If I wanted to hear classic covers, I'll buy a Rod Stewart or Michael McDonald CD.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 am
by SteveForever
Onestepper wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
Agree. You can only cry..or sing..'wolf' so many times that you flat out lose credibility. If he did happen to put something out, I want it to be new stuff. If I wanted to hear classic covers, I'll buy a Rod Stewart or Michael McDonald CD.
Okay fine, this thread is for those that BELIEVE, if you don't want to play stay in and color at your desk please.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:34 am
by conversationpc
SteveForever wrote:Onestepper wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
Agree. You can only cry..or sing..'wolf' so many times that you flat out lose credibility. If he did happen to put something out, I want it to be new stuff. If I wanted to hear classic covers, I'll buy a Rod Stewart or Michael McDonald CD.
Okay fine, this thread is for those that BELIEVE, if you don't want to play stay in and color at your desk please.
Kinda feisty today, huh?


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:34 am
by NealIsGod
Onestepper wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
Agree. You can only cry..or sing..'wolf' so many times that you flat out lose credibility.
Are you referring to Perry or SJ?


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:35 am
by conversationpc
NealIsGod wrote:Onestepper wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
Agree. You can only cry..or sing..'wolf' so many times that you flat out lose credibility.
Are you referring to Perry or SJ?

Good point.


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:40 am
by STORY_TELLER
My feeling is he's experimenting across the board, writing and recording things in different genres and styles. Some Motown, some Jazz, some acoustic, etc. We know he worked with Nuno Bettencourt in the last year. If I had to hazzard a guess, I'd say whatever he did with him is ballad based, not rocker.
At his age, I doubt Perry is interested in making anything along the lines of Revelation. He leaned that way in his 20's and 30's, but I think he's mellowed and grown beyond that.
I agree with Art about his approach on Sandcastles. I'd love an album full of that kind of material. Not unlike "can't let you go" (his Jeff Golub collaboration). That's what makes Perry special. He can float into any style and fit in. He's just that good.
That being said, I also agree with others who think we're not going to see whatever he's working on. I think he's doing it for himself, but unless he's really happy with what he lays down, it will never see distribution. The fact that he has to be told "it sounds like him" without knowing it for himself tells me his burnout was extremely severe. I think he looks back on his body of work and doesn't recognize the person who did all that stuff. Probably doesn't even know how he accomplished it on some level, because it's not him anymore. That's a common effect of severe burnout.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:46 am
by Saint John
SteveForever wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
FOOL
Keep waiting for that new album. Tell me how that goes. Lol...new album.


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:47 am
by SteveForever
Saint John wrote:SteveForever wrote:Saint John wrote:There will be no new CD.
FOOL
Keep waiting for that new album. Tell me how that goes. Lol...new album.

Would you like to place a future bet? I will take huge joy in seeing you eat my rubber...

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:52 am
by Art Vandelay
STORY_TELLER wrote:My feeling is he's experimenting across the board, writing and recording things in different genres and styles. Some Motown, some Jazz, some acoustic, etc. We know he worked with Nuno Bettencourt in the last year. If I had to hazzard a guess, I'd say whatever he did with him is ballad based, not rocker.
At his age, I doubt Perry is interested in making anything along the lines of Revelation. He leaned that way in his 20's and 30's, but I think he's mellowed and grown beyond that.
I agree with Art about his approach on Sandcastles. I'd love an album full of that kind of material. Not unlike "can't let you go" (his Jeff Golub collaboration). That's what makes Perry special. He can float into any style and fit in. He's just that good.
That being said, I also agree with others who think we're not going to see whatever he's working on. I think he's doing it for himself, but unless he's really happy with what he lays down, it will never see distribution. The fact that he has to be told "it sounds like him" without knowing it for himself tells me his burnout was extremely severe. I think he looks back on his body of work and doesn't recognize the person who did all that stuff. Probably doesn't even know how he accomplished it on some level, because it's not him anymore. That's a common effect of severe burnout.
Nice response! Yeah, to this day, I'm blown away with what he and Smith did together on Sandcastles. I include Smith on this because he has never played like that on any other Journey track. I commended him on that the last time I saw Vital Information.
I wonder if Perry was going for a different sound, or expecting to sound different, being that he was surprised that it still sounded like "him."
Whether he puts out new stuff or not remains to be seen. I'm just glad to hear that the creative spark hasn't fizzled out on such a talent. And yes, even if one is being creative for personal reasons or achievements, the gratification is instant...and worth it.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:10 am
by brywool
Perry's been saying "new album", "in the studio", "maybe" for YEARS.
The key part of his last interview was "I don't know what I'm going to do with the stuff I'm recording" (paraphrased)
He might never release it, just like he hasn't released anything since, what 94? (Greatest Hits and reissues don't count). If he was TRULY "working on an album", you can bet that a record company would be behind it and there would be a PLAN for it's release. The fact that Steve said he didn't know what he was doing with it means he's doing demos. They could just be for him, they could actually be to shop a new album to a record company. But at this point, it sounds like he doesn't have any record company backing, so right now, this means NOTHING.
If you hear that 'such and such a record company' is now working with Steve Perry- THEN all this 'he's coming back like Jesus' talk means something. Right now, it's a guy messing around in the studio.
Also, after the sales of FTLOSM, you gotta wonder how many record companies would be interested in another Steve Perry solo outing. Too bad. That album had a few good tunes on it.
I'd love to be wrong, but Perry's cried wolf way too many times.
Keep waiting.... and be sure to watch out for him to show up whenever Journey has any news.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:06 am
by frfksakes
I think his best songs are when he and Schon collaborated – and when they wrote as if Perry's voice was just another instrument.
Lyrics were sometimes incidental, lol...
If he does release something, I hope it’s along these lines.
He is a master of melody, and for writing for HIS voice, but he needs someone to give his music teeth.
Don’t try for hits, or for the Journey formula… try for great music.
(NO SAPPY STUFF!!!) (Stay Awhile is a GREAT ballad, without being sappy.)

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:12 am
by Brigadier
Perry won't release another album.
He is just jealous because Journey have moved on without him, and now with Arnel, they have a shot at something again. Without HIM!!! Must be crushing his ego.
Watching the DVD, I see a band that is having FUN on stage! They are ENJOYING THEMSELVES!!! Without Perry!!

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:18 am
by Tomulator
If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:19 am
by Art Vandelay
Brigadier wrote:Perry won't release another album.
He is just jealous because Journey have moved on without him, and now with Arnel, they have a shot at something again. Without HIM!!! Must be crushing his ego.
Watching the DVD, I see a band that is having FUN on stage! They are ENJOYING THEMSELVES!!! Without Perry!!
Yeah, that's it.
2.5 albums, a DVD, multiple tours and 10 years later, and NOW he's jealous.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:21 am
by Art Vandelay
Tomulator wrote:If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????

That would be amazing! I could see Smith working with him again.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:22 am
by NealIsGod
Brigadier wrote:Perry won't release another album.
He is just jealous because Journey have moved on without him, and now with Arnel, they have a shot at something again. Without HIM!!! Must be crushing his ego.
Watching the DVD, I see a band that is having FUN on stage! They are ENJOYING THEMSELVES!!! Without Perry!!
Yeah, Perry is probably sitting on his couch right now, stroking his cat and sadly mouthing the words to the new DVD.


Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:23 am
by NealIsGod
Art Vandelay wrote:Tomulator wrote:If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????

That would be amazing! I could see Smith working with him again.
Smith would probably tell him to fuck off and feel real good doing it.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:24 am
by SteveForever
NealIsGod wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Tomulator wrote:If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????

That would be amazing! I could see Smith working with him again.
Smith would probably tell him to fuck off and feel real good doing it.
I met a guy who knows a guy (sincerely) that said Steve Smith quit, he was never
fired from Journey.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:25 am
by Brigadier
SteveForever wrote:NealIsGod wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Tomulator wrote:If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????

That would be amazing! I could see Smith working with him again.
Smith would probably tell him to fuck off and feel real good doing it.
I met a guy who knows a guy (sincerely) that said Steve Smith quit, he was never
fired from Journey.
On the VH1 documentary, he says he was fired.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:25 am
by frfksakes
Art Vandelay wrote:Tomulator wrote:If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????

That would be amazing! I could see Smith working with him again.
Hell yeah - and since we're REALLY dreaming, Gregg Rolie, too!!! lol

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:26 am
by Art Vandelay
NealIsGod wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Tomulator wrote:If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????

That would be amazing! I could see Smith working with him again.
Smith would probably tell him to fuck off and feel real good doing it.
Sorry, bud...Smith has said [in the past few years] that Perry was his favorite vocalist to record with and would do so again with him.

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:27 am
by SteveForever
Brigadier wrote:SteveForever wrote:NealIsGod wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Tomulator wrote:If he did record a new disc, I think he should ask Smitty to be on it...how cool would that be????

That would be amazing! I could see Smith working with him again.
Smith would probably tell him to fuck off and feel real good doing it.
I met a guy who knows a guy (sincerely) that said Steve Smith quit, he was never
fired from Journey.
On the VH1 documentary, he says he was fired.
Smith says that? well damn, I missed that.