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You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless! If you use itunes,right click the song and you will see"convert to apple lossless" keep in mind the file will go from about 3 megs to about 30 megs! I wouldn't do too much music unless you have a 320 gig ipod or something. Arnel impresses me everytime I hear him! The way he nails the Perry sound is freaking awesome..Augeri did too and I love him for it! Change for the better,Where did I lose your love..Classics. Wish they would have done more songs like those. Also,I loved "All the things" it was different and edgy..World gone wild was Neal's song,all guitar,loved how Augeri sang it. Live and Breath,Can't get enough of that song..We will meet again..I can't get over how Augeri sings it..Totally nails the Perrism.. I just don't see how people that like Journey can't like it? Anyways...Lossless my friends! Its so good its not even fair..

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless! If you use itunes,right click the song and you will see"convert to apple lossless" keep in mind the file will go from about 3 megs to about 30 megs! I wouldn't do too much music unless you have a 320 gig ipod or something. Arnel impresses me everytime I hear him! The way he nails the Perry sound is freaking awesome..Augeri did too and I love him for it! Change for the better,Where did I lose your love..Classics. Wish they would have done more songs like those. Also,I loved "All the things" it was different and edgy..World gone wild was Neal's song,all guitar,loved how Augeri sang it. Live and Breath,Can't get enough of that song..We will meet again..I can't get over how Augeri sings it..Totally nails the Perrism.. I just don't see how people that like Journey can't like it? Anyways...Lossless my friends! Its so good its not even fair..

The only way to do it correctly is to import it "lossless" from the CD. Once it's been converted to mp3 or aac, the loss is there and can't be replaced properly and has to be reripped to hear it in it's full quality.

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless! If you use itunes,right click the song and you will see"convert to apple lossless" keep in mind the file will go from about 3 megs to about 30 megs! I wouldn't do too much music unless you have a 320 gig ipod or something. Arnel impresses me everytime I hear him! The way he nails the Perry sound is freaking awesome..Augeri did too and I love him for it! Change for the better,Where did I lose your love..Classics. Wish they would have done more songs like those. Also,I loved "All the things" it was different and edgy..World gone wild was Neal's song,all guitar,loved how Augeri sang it. Live and Breath,Can't get enough of that song..We will meet again..I can't get over how Augeri sings it..Totally nails the Perrism.. I just don't see how people that like Journey can't like it? Anyways...Lossless my friends! Its so good its not even fair..

Give us a link, i like all the songs you speak of.Change for the Bettablows me away. It has all the Friga keyboardsounds Ilike from the 80 s.

Here.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lossless
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60784

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless!..

Buy the CD, play the CD. There ya go!

stevew2 wrote:

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless! If you use itunes,right click the song and you will see"convert to apple lossless" keep in mind the file will go from about 3 megs to about 30 megs! I wouldn't do too much music unless you have a 320 gig ipod or something. Arnel impresses me everytime I hear him! The way he nails the Perry sound is freaking awesome..Augeri did too and I love him for it! Change for the better,Where did I lose your love..Classics. Wish they would have done more songs like those. Also,I loved "All the things" it was different and edgy..World gone wild was Neal's song,all guitar,loved how Augeri sang it. Live and Breath,Can't get enough of that song..We will meet again..I can't get over how Augeri sings it..Totally nails the Perrism.. I just don't see how people that like Journey can't like it? Anyways...Lossless my friends! Its so good its not even fair..

Give us a link, i like all the songs you speak of.Change for the Bettablows me away. It has all the Friga keyboardsounds Ilike from the 80 s.

Whoa, did I just see stevew2 actually give Jonathan Cain a compliment? The end of the world must be near.....

mistiejourney wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless! If you use itunes,right click the song and you will see"convert to apple lossless" keep in mind the file will go from about 3 megs to about 30 megs! I wouldn't do too much music unless you have a 320 gig ipod or something. Arnel impresses me everytime I hear him! The way he nails the Perry sound is freaking awesome..Augeri did too and I love him for it! Change for the better,Where did I lose your love..Classics. Wish they would have done more songs like those. Also,I loved "All the things" it was different and edgy..World gone wild was Neal's song,all guitar,loved how Augeri sang it. Live and Breath,Can't get enough of that song..We will meet again..I can't get over how Augeri sings it..Totally nails the Perrism.. I just don't see how people that like Journey can't like it? Anyways...Lossless my friends! Its so good its not even fair..

Give us a link, i like all the songs you speak of.Change for the Bettablows me away. It has all the Friga keyboardsounds Ilike from the 80 s.

Whoa, did I just see stevew2 actually give Jonathan Cain a compliment? The end of the world must be near.....

What a REVELATION!

mistiejourney wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless! If you use itunes,right click the song and you will see"convert to apple lossless" keep in mind the file will go from about 3 megs to about 30 megs! I wouldn't do too much music unless you have a 320 gig ipod or something. Arnel impresses me everytime I hear him! The way he nails the Perry sound is freaking awesome..Augeri did too and I love him for it! Change for the better,Where did I lose your love..Classics. Wish they would have done more songs like those. Also,I loved "All the things" it was different and edgy..World gone wild was Neal's song,all guitar,loved how Augeri sang it. Live and Breath,Can't get enough of that song..We will meet again..I can't get over how Augeri sings it..Totally nails the Perrism.. I just don't see how people that like Journey can't like it? Anyways...Lossless my friends! Its so good its not even fair..

Give us a link, i like all the songs you speak of.Change for the Bettablows me away. It has all the Friga keyboardsounds Ilike from the 80 s.

Whoa, did I just see stevew2 actually give Jonathan Cain a compliment? The end of the world must be near.....

I respect his talent,I am a Keyboardist myself.The difference between him and me is I bullshit half as much as he does , and I like girls. He bullshits all the time and would rather see a sack of nuts then a girl in a bikini Lets not get carried away lol

Andrew wrote:

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless!..

Buy the CD, play the CD. There ya go!

Who uses personal CD players anymore?

Sarah wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless!..

Buy the CD, play the CD. There ya go!

Who uses personal CD players anymore?

Saint John wrote:

Sarah wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless!..

Buy the CD, play the CD. There ya go!

Who uses personal CD players anymore?

Hope you enjoy constantly changing discs while the rest of us put all our music on one player. XD

Andrew wrote:

Journey69 wrote:You haven't heard Revelation til you've heard it in Lossless!..

Buy the CD, play the CD. There ya go!

I think the idea is to get it on your iPod without the losses you suffer with compressing.

I think Rick is right.. You can get all the tunes on amazon with no DRM content. They are all at 256 kps. Sounds better but doesn't leave a giant footprint. itunes has itunes plus ,but not alot of albums on it. Revelations uncompressed..Wow.. Andrew you should try it..

Journey69 wrote:I think Rick is right.. You can get all the tunes on amazon with no DRM content. They are all at 256 kps. Sounds better but doesn't leave a giant footprint. itunes has itunes plus ,but not alot of albums on it. Revelations uncompressed..Wow.. Andrew you should try it..

I think he has a copy.

I figured he did,but why would he be satisfied with just cd quality..?

Journey69 wrote:I figured he did,but why would he be satisfied with just cd quality..?

Actually an original CD is as good as it gets. Anything that's done to the recording after that, except for a lossless reproduction, reduces the quality.

The more advanced the technology gets the worse everything is sounding....we should all be able to listen music
at 24 bit , but NOO we get 120 bit rate crap shoved down are throat....YUK! even cd's are 16 bit and compressed to hell.

Ray

"Actually an original CD is as good as it gets. Anything that's done to the recording after that, except for a lossless reproduction, reduces the quality."

But it shouldnt be. its 24 bit in protools, mastered in 24 bit, and then turned into crap...LOL

Are wav files ripped as 16bit pcm the equivalent of what you hear on the cd?

Gunbot wrote:Are wav files ripped as 16bit pcm the equivalent of what you hear on the cd?

Wav files are compressed. Any compression results in quality loss.

OK....and unless one is some sort of sound geek, who would notice the difference?

A normal CD sounds good to me.....

I'm not a sound geek but I'm starting to be able to hear the difference between a high-quality clip and a low-quality clip.

In particular on my iTunes/iPod I hear a ton of difference, mainly, between certain downloads I've made and music I've ripped from CD.

StocktontoMalone wrote:OK....and unless one is some sort of sound geek, who would notice the difference?

A normal CD sounds good to me.....

Agreed. I import music at 256kbps, and that's plenty good for me.

Journey69 wrote:I figured he did,but why would he be satisfied with just cd quality..?

Are you for real?

It is funny that some people think that CD has a weaker quality sound than compressed files.

BTW, .wav files are not always compressed and can have the same sound quality than a CD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_file

Rick wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Are wav files ripped as 16bit pcm the equivalent of what you hear on the cd?

Wav files are compressed. Any compression results in quality loss.

WRONG - 44.1/16 WAV (or AIFF) files are uncompressed - and the same as CD. They are the same as the original source. Same with lossless.

MP3, MP4, AAC are all compressed.

ALAC, FLAC, and all other lossless forms are the same as the original but just work like ZIP. There is no audio compression applied.

YOu cannot take a lossy AAC or MP3, convert it to lossless, and get back what you lost. All you did was make a bigger file from a shitty source.

This isn't rocket science folks, yet so many get it wrong.

StyxCollector wrote:

Rick wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Are wav files ripped as 16bit pcm the equivalent of what you hear on the cd?

Wav files are compressed. Any compression results in quality loss.

WRONG - 44.1/16 WAV (or AIFF) files are uncompressed - and the same as CD. They are the same as the original source. Same with lossless.

MP3, MP4, AAC are all compressed.

ALAC, FLAC, and all other lossless forms are the same as the original but just work like ZIP. There is no audio compression applied.

YOu cannot take a lossy AAC or MP3, convert it to lossless, and get back what you lost. All you did was make a bigger file from a shitty source.

This isn't rocket science folks, yet so many get it wrong.

I just read up on it, and you're correct. No compression in that form. Some are, however.

Rick wrote:

StocktontoMalone wrote:OK....and unless one is some sort of sound geek, who would notice the difference?

A normal CD sounds good to me.....

Agreed. I import music at 256kbps, and that's plenty good for me.

same here. if you cant tell the difference why bother. pluys its not worth the extra space if it sounds the same

ACTUALLY, basically, Apple and all these other MP3 companies are in the business of steering you towards compressing your music. They really push these MP3 players, and promise 15,000 songs, 20,000, 30,000 songs fitting on the player....what they fail to put iin BIG, BOLD letters is that those figures are based on bit rates of 128.