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Enough with closing with Faithfully, that sucks. End the night on a rockin kick ass song. I hope they don't pull that crap in Dallas.

Wheel in the sky, Anyway you want it, or Separate ways are mandatory closeout numbers. Faithfully? What, are they Marc Anthony wannabee,s now?

There are two different camps and I'm in the other one. I generally prefer shows to end on a slow song. Rock out for the last song before you leave for the encore come back with a rocker and then a slow song to close out the night. Just my preference. Just most rockers end very cold and slow songs kinda fade away.

I vote for "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever"

I can only remember going to one Rock concert that closed out with a slow song, Styx 1981. Pop artists can get away with it but Rock groups should always close with high octane songs. That's what rock is all about. I hope Journey's not going soft on us.

Gunbot wrote:I can only remember going to one Rock concert that closed out with a slow song, Styx 1981. Pop artists can get away with it but Rock groups should always close with high octane songs. That's what rock is all about. I hope Journey's not going soft on us.

Some of us are ballad guys!! See above!

Since 78 wrote:I vote for "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever"

No, only because He who shall not be named would have to go into the wayback machine to pull that one off. No disrespect but the banshee wails at the end of that song are the defining moment and as good as Arnie is, I don't think he could do it justice. That song truly belongs to the kitten puncher.

I've only seen a few bands pull off ending with a slow song, and when it works, it's usually a REALLY quiet, intimate moment...the best example I can think of was Depeche Mode's encore in 2005 which was the usual climatic "Never Let Me Down" followed by the incredibly hushed and gentle "Goodnight Lovers." (And think what you want about them, they're an arena rock band on the same energy level as, say U2, even though it's mostly keyboard-based stuff)

Genesis ending the reunion tour with "The Carpet Crawlers" was also kind of surprising in how well it worked, but that also was effective more in a symbolic, career-summation way, in that hardcore fans (And, presumably, the band) feel that it represents the band more than most of their hits, so they chose to end the show with it.

For oldies rock bands like Journey though, you gotta end it on a high-energy note. Just like I wouldn't want to see Def Lep end with "Love Bites" or Aerosmith with "What It Takes," "Faithfully" is kind of a bad closing song. I always thought starting the encore with "Faithfully" and going into "Be Good To Yourself" would be the perfect Journey encore.

Same shit, and same tapes {Friga wise} used on the 2001 DVD, That s lame, Did Neal fall off the wagon? Did Friga found "new interests".Dont re do old concerts, I might just stay home and drink and save $500. Dont close with the Faithfully 2001 bullshit,it was exactlly the same from what I saw.Lay off the wine Friga, do something different,get it together,bring back the Whale, you fucking weiner

Gunbot wrote:

Since 78 wrote:I vote for "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever"

No, only because He who shall not be named would have to go into the wayback machine to pull that one off. No disrespect but the banshee wails at the end of that song are the defining moment and as good as Arnie is, I don't think he could do it justice. That song truly belongs to the kitten puncher.

I think you're right. However, I really would like to see him try something in that range. If you notice they aren't having deen sing the difficult songs anymore. They seem to be trusting Arnel to pull off whatever choose to they play and he's coming through.

I think a 2 punch knock out would be something along the lines of Faithfully or Why Can't This Night, etc.. and then close out the night with something like Wheel, Keep On Runnin, Seperate Ways, etc.

Btw...have they ever closed with Sep Ways? That would be an awesome end of night surprise.

keep on runnin' or rubicon would be nice.....

I have always thought they should close with the appropriate "The Party's Over"!

Gunbot wrote:

Since 78 wrote:I vote for "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever"

No, only because He who shall not be named would have to go into the wayback machine to pull that one off. No disrespect but the banshee wails at the end of that song are the defining moment and as good as Arnie is, I don't think he could do it justice. That song truly belongs to the kitten puncher.

Absomotherfuckinlutely. I don't want to hear anyone but He Who Shan't Be Named singing that. (The Masked Kitten Puncher?)

But why in hell are they closing with Faithfully? Bleh.
You need a rocker to close and you need a hit to close. All arrows point to Separate Ways.

texafana wrote:Btw...have they ever closed with Sep Ways? That would be an awesome end of night surprise.

Yes. When I saw them in '06 they closed with that.

Since 78 wrote:I vote for "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever"

I honestly never see that happening BUt it would be awesome. I used this at my wedding

YEs they Sw as the closer one of the newest boots I just acquired had that as the closer

Really makes no difference to me what song is last, but personally, I would end with DSB.

texafana wrote:Enough with closing with Faithfully, that sucks. End the night on a rockin kick ass song. I hope they don't pull that crap in Dallas.

I actually love they way they closed out the 2001 Arrival DVD with Faithfully. I hope they close out the Cincinnati show with the same arrangement.

Rich the Cincinnati Guy

cinkidd wrote:Rich the Cincinnati Guy

Ok Rich, make up your fucking mind, dude. Are you a "kidd" or a "Guy?" Your screen name suggests you're a kid yet you sign off as "Rich the Cicinnati Guy." Which is it, man?!?!?!

cinkidd wrote:

texafana wrote:Enough with closing with Faithfully, that sucks. End the night on a rockin kick ass song. I hope they don't pull that crap in Dallas.

I actually love they way they closed out the 2001 Arrival DVD with Faithfully. I hope they close out the Cincinnati show with the same arrangement.

Rich the Cincinnati Guy

For the 2003 VH1-Classic concert with Styx and REO Speedwagon, that's exactly how they ended the Cincinnati show.

It's an okay way to end the concert, I s'ppose, but my preference is end it with a rocker, or at least something more upbeat. Also, I've heard Arnel's version of "Faithfully" three times now ('Revelation' Disc 2, 'Revelation' DVD, and "The Ellen Show" website). So far I've thought that it's one of his weaker songs.

I think they ought to be closing with either "Don't Stop Believin'" or "Be Good to Yourself".

texafana wrote:I think a 2 punch knock out would be something along the lines of Faithfully or Why Can't This Night, etc.. and then close out the night with something like Wheel, Keep On Runnin, Seperate Ways, etc.

Btw...have they ever closed with Sep Ways? That would be an awesome end of night surprise.

'06 tour with JSS. Went to two shows and they both ended with Seperate Ways. Crowd eats it up.

Ending with Faithfully is a dumb move. Very 'Vegasy'. They're not Celine Dion. End with Don't Stop Believing or Separate Ways.

texafana wrote:Enough with closing with Faithfully, that sucks. End the night on a rockin kick ass song. I hope they don't pull that crap in Dallas.

Why has ESC4p3 totally been dropped from the setlist? That has been a concert staple since 1981!!

Toph wrote:

texafana wrote:Enough with closing with Faithfully, that sucks. End the night on a rockin kick ass song. I hope they don't pull that crap in Dallas.

Why has ESC4p3 totally been dropped from the setlist? That has been a concert staple since 1981!!

It's popped in a few times since the tour began.

xflajrnylvr wrote:

Since 78 wrote:I vote for "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever"

I honestly never see that happening BUt it would be awesome. I used this at my wedding

This song was a disappointment chart-wise - I don't think they would play it, because it was a 5th release of ROR and got little airplay. Now why it was the 5th release of ROR (Instead of say the second) is a whole different story. The singles chosen off that album were a bit screwed up IMO. I would have released BGTY, WCTNGOF, GCHI, IBAWY, and then Suzanne. But what do I know..

roycap wrote:I have always thought they should close with the appropriate "The Party's Over"!

Another great, but unsung song - was a disappointment chart-wise, and should have done better. Great song!

WalrusOct9 wrote:I've only seen a few bands pull off ending with a slow song, and when it works, it's usually a REALLY quiet, intimate moment...the best example I can think of was Depeche Mode's encore in 2005 which was the usual climatic "Never Let Me Down" followed by the incredibly hushed and gentle "Goodnight Lovers." (And think what you want about them, they're an arena rock band on the same energy level as, say U2, even though it's mostly keyboard-based stuff)

Genesis ending the reunion tour with "The Carpet Crawlers" was also kind of surprising in how well it worked, but that also was effective more in a symbolic, career-summation way, in that hardcore fans (And, presumably, the band) feel that it represents the band more than most of their hits, so they chose to end the show with it.

For oldies rock bands like Journey though, you gotta end it on a high-energy note. Just like I wouldn't want to see Def Lep end with "Love Bites" or Aerosmith with "What It Takes," "Faithfully" is kind of a bad closing song. I always thought starting the encore with "Faithfully" and going into "Be Good To Yourself" would be the perfect Journey encore.

It would be like Styx (with DDY since they don't play his ballads anymore) ending with "Don't Let It End" - the right title, but not the right energy...

LOVIG TOUCHIN SQUEEZIN has to be the one, but hell its not even in the setlist this summer... everyone leaving singing nanananananana IS AMAZING!! and much better than the downer with faithully....GREAT SONG BY THE WAY.. just not a closer.

JMHO.

Rick