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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:50 am
by Barb
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


He would do better to stick his real positions (whatever they are). He is pandering to an audience who will NEVER vote for him.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:51 am
by S2M
Barb wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


He would do better to stick his real positions (whatever they are). He is pandering to an audience who will NEVER vote for him.


:roll: :roll:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:52 am
by Barb
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


He would do better to stick his real positions (whatever they are). He is pandering to an audience who will NEVER vote for him.


:roll: :roll:


Is that the best you can do? :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:54 am
by S2M
Barb wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


He would do better to stick his real positions (whatever they are). He is pandering to an audience who will NEVER vote for him.


:roll: :roll:


Is that the best you can do? :lol:


Yes, at this hour....I'm a zombie. And I'm listening to Wham! ZZZZZZZZZZZ :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:02 am
by Rick
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


He would do better to stick his real positions (whatever they are). He is pandering to an audience who will NEVER vote for him.


:roll: :roll:


Is that the best you can do? :lol:


Yes, at this hour....I'm a zombie. And I'm listening to Wham! ZZZZZZZZZZZ :lol: :lol:


Are you at Saint John's house? :lol: :twisted:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:03 am
by S2M
Rick wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


He would do better to stick his real positions (whatever they are). He is pandering to an audience who will NEVER vote for him.


:roll: :roll:


Is that the best you can do? :lol:


Yes, at this hour....I'm a zombie. And I'm listening to Wham! ZZZZZZZZZZZ :lol: :lol:




Are you at Saint John's house? :lol: :twisted:


Who is this St. John person to whom you refer? This is the second time someone mentioned that name to me in the past 2 days..... :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:08 am
by Rick
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Rick wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Barb wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


He would do better to stick his real positions (whatever they are). He is pandering to an audience who will NEVER vote for him.


:roll: :roll:


Is that the best you can do? :lol:


Yes, at this hour....I'm a zombie. And I'm listening to Wham! ZZZZZZZZZZZ :lol: :lol:




Are you at Saint John's house? :lol: :twisted:


Who is this St. John person to whom you refer? This is the second time someone mentioned that name to me in the past 2 days..... :shock:


A great dude.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:10 am
by Michigan Girl
He admitted his error in THE SURGE....+1
HUGE ERROR.....................................-1


Back to square 1....... :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:13 am
by S2M
Michigan Girl wrote:He admitted his error in THE SURGE....+1
HUGE ERROR.....................................-1


Back to square 1....... :wink:



How about Michigan 0-1? :twisted: :twisted:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:15 am
by Michigan Girl
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:He admitted his error in THE SURGE....+1
HUGE ERROR.....................................-1


Back to square 1....... :wink:



How about Michigan 0-1? :twisted: :twisted:


:evil:
Yeah....prepare for worse..... :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:16 am
by S2M
Michigan Girl wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:He admitted his error in THE SURGE....+1
HUGE ERROR.....................................-1


Back to square 1....... :wink:



How about Michigan 0-1? :twisted: :twisted:


:evil:
Yeah....prepare for worse..... :wink:


Penn State, baby!!!!! WOOOOO!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:21 am
by Michigan Girl
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:He admitted his error in THE SURGE....+1
HUGE ERROR.....................................-1


Back to square 1....... :wink:



How about Michigan 0-1? :twisted: :twisted:


:evil:
Yeah....prepare for worse..... :wink:


Penn State, baby!!!!! WOOOOO!


I always enjoy a good WHITE OUT at Penn State!!! :D :P :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:22 am
by csiako
Fact Finder wrote:
“I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,” Obama said while refusing to retract his initial opposition to the surge. “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.”




Say it ain't so Barry!


wow he finally said it? a big difference from july..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hEzGKQLmU4

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:42 am
by Michigan Girl
Cindy McCain should probably continue being the SILENT wife!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:44 am
by Barb
Michigan Girl wrote:Cindy McCain should probably continue being the SILENT wife!!! :wink:


She is a pretty decent human being. I never knew her background. You're right though, she is not a pubic speaker. Pretty lady, though.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:45 am
by Michigan Girl
Barb wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Cindy McCain should probably continue being the SILENT wife!!! :wink:


She is a pretty decent human being. I never knew her background. You're right though, she is not a pubic speaker. Pretty lady, though.


She should learn FAST....she's awful (speaking), but you're right!!!! :wink:
Ok, the introduction of Bridgett tugged at my heart!!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:03 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:52 pm
by RossValoryRocks
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:08 pm
by Michigan Girl
WOW.....McCain, I liked it!!!! :wink:

Heart playing now!!!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:19 pm
by Rick
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:21 pm
by RossValoryRocks
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.


It's not incorrect. It's my opinion. The man is DANGEROUS. That is my opinion. PERIOD!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:28 pm
by Rick
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.


It's not incorrect. It's my opinion. The man is DANGEROUS. That is my opinion. PERIOD!


What was your opinion of Clinton when he was running against GHW Bush?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:30 pm
by RossValoryRocks
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.


It's not incorrect. It's my opinion. The man is DANGEROUS. That is my opinion. PERIOD!


What was your opinion of Clinton when he was running against GHW Bush?


I thought he was going to take more of my money...and I was right...for 3 years anyways.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:32 pm
by whirlwind
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.




The Democratic Party would appear to have a lot of fears.

Didn't FDR make some profound statement about fear?

I'm a Democrat and my fear is Obama as President. It scares the hell out of me.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:35 pm
by Rick
whirlwind wrote:
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.




The Democratic Party would appear to have a lot of fears.

Didn't FDR make some profound statement about fear?

I'm a Democrat and my fear is Obama as President. I scares the hell out of me.


I'm not particularly happy with any of the candidates, but I don't know how anyone could fear Obama after enduring 8 years of the current administration. Voting for another Republican is just asking to extend the misery. We need to get away from the GOP.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:40 pm
by Saint John
Rick wrote:That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

Taking the war and moving it to a "neutral site" where a rogue leader refused to disclose what he did with WMD's in a country the U.N. decided to play shell games with a leader that possessed weapons that could easily kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, has kept this country safe. Our enemies, namely Al Qaeda and other Muslim extremists, have flocked to Iraq to fight our military rather than our borders to kill our civilians.

Rick wrote:The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

I have every freedom I did 8 years ago and so do you. Name one specific instance your freedom has been violated over the last 8 years by the president's policies.

Rick wrote:The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

I thought the democrats said they fix this problem at the mid-term elections? Must be why their approval rating is hovering around 9%. :lol:

Rick wrote:They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous.

Most stupid people don't realize things until it's too late (most, but not all, democrats).
Rick wrote: They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.

The last 8 years have been pretty much the same as any other 8 year period...pretty good!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:45 pm
by RossValoryRocks
Rick wrote:
I'm not particularly happy with any of the candidates, but I don't know how anyone could fear Obama after enduring 8 years of the current administration. Voting for another Republican is just asking to extend the misery. We need to get away from the GOP.


Bullshit. McCain has an R after his name, but he is NOTHING like George Bush.

Me and Dave and the rest of the CONSERVATIVES (not Republicans) dispise much George Bush has done. We have all stated NUMEROUS times what Bush's failing are. We can do that, you liberals can't. All we hear is how good your people were and are, and how they can do NO wrong.

McCain hammered his own party tonight, and with good reason. Democrats would NEVER do that, no matter the reason.

McCain will make an excellent President. Palin will make an excellent VP.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:45 pm
by whirlwind
Rick wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.




The Democratic Party would appear to have a lot of fears.

Didn't FDR make some profound statement about fear?

I'm a Democrat and my fear is Obama as President. I scares the hell out of me.


I'm not particularly happy with any of the candidates, but I don't know how anyone could fear Obama after enduring 8 years of the current administration. Voting for another Republican is just asking to extend the misery. We need to get away from the GOP.



It's more often than not, the man in power who makes the difference. The GOP has had some of our greatest leaders. They are due for the luck of the draw about now and I'm in,.........so far. If they find out that Palin is a Transexual, I may change my mind. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:53 pm
by Rick
whirlwind wrote:
Rick wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
Rick wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:WOW!

Barack as a Hawk.....who knew??? :lol: :lol:

This is gonna dissapoint alot of people


After he gave a measured foreign policy speech in 07 that pretty much summated current US Policy, the right wing attack dogs falsely claimed he was going to bomb Pakistan.
Hawk, elitist, closet muslim....you'll make up your mind eventually.


I have already...DANGEROUS for our country and woefully unprepared to be President, half of his party thinks the same thing, but will vote for him because he is their nominee!


That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous. They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.




The Democratic Party would appear to have a lot of fears.

Didn't FDR make some profound statement about fear?

I'm a Democrat and my fear is Obama as President. I scares the hell out of me.


I'm not particularly happy with any of the candidates, but I don't know how anyone could fear Obama after enduring 8 years of the current administration. Voting for another Republican is just asking to extend the misery. We need to get away from the GOP.



It's more often than not, the man in power who makes the difference. The GOP has had some of our greatest leaders. They are due for the luck of the draw about now and I'm in,.........so far. If they find out that Palin is a Transexual, I may change my mind. :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:50 pm
by Rick
Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:That's incorrect. The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of war in Iraq, where 4154 American soldiers have died and a study estimates 655,000 Iraqi's have died.

Taking the war and moving it to a "neutral site" where a rogue leader refused to disclose what he did with WMD's in a country the U.N. decided to play shell games with a leader that possessed weapons that could easily kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, has kept this country safe. Our enemies, namely Al Qaeda and other Muslim extremists, have flocked to Iraq to fight our military rather than our borders to kill our civilians.

Rick wrote:The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of losses of freedoms. Bush pretty much gutted the Bill of Rights and proclaimed the Constitution to be a God damned piece of paper.

I have every freedom I did 8 years ago and so do you. Name one specific instance your freedom has been violated over the last 8 years by the president's policies.

Rick wrote:The Democratic party fears another 4 to 8 years of economic woes and high gas and food prices.

I thought the democrats said they fix this problem at the mid-term elections? Must be why their approval rating is hovering around 9%. :lol:

Rick wrote:They don't fear Obama or find him dangerous.

Most stupid people don't realize things until it's too late (most, but not all, democrats).
Rick wrote: They fear 4 to 8 more years of the destruction of America.

The last 8 years have been pretty much the same as any other 8 year period...pretty good!


Taking the war to Iraq does nothing to curtail a terrorist attack on US soil. If anything it emboldens them to commit them. The war in Iraq was never about WMD.

As far as you not losing any rights, please read up on the Patriot act. The US government can now eavesdrop on your phone calls and internet activity. They can effect searches and seizures of your property and imprison you without charging you with a crime, or give you access to legal council and can hold you without probable cause, indefinitely. You're denied your first and fourth amendment rights in this instance, both of which are supposedly inalienable.

It's Congress' approval rating that's at 9%. The Democrats can't approve anything because the Republicans have them hog tied. It takes 60% to approve anything in congress and the Democrats don't control 60%. The Republicans would rather walk through hell with a gasoline covered overcoat on than approve anything the Democrats submit.