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OT: American Man "Cured" of AIDS

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:01 am
by Enigma869
Looks like a bone marrow transplant did the trick!


http://news.aol.com/health/article/marr ... 1200863483


John from Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:03 am
by stevew2
If true, that is good news

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:07 am
by Rhiannon
I read about that the other day... kind of wild. Hopefully a cure will come soon, a mass anecdote to send to all the countries we sent it to in the first place.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:12 am
by Arianddu
Rhiannon wrote:I read about that the other day... kind of wild. Hopefully a cure will come soon, a mass anecdote to send to all the countries we sent it to in the first place.


I think you mean antidote :lol: :lol: :lol:
Having a long day?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:19 am
by Rhiannon
Arianddu wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:I read about that the other day... kind of wild. Hopefully a cure will come soon, a mass anecdote to send to all the countries we sent it to in the first place.


I think you mean antidote :lol: :lol: :lol:
Having a long day?


I suck at words every so often. And yes, my mind is not with me today. :oops: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:12 am
by RossValoryRocks
Rhiannon wrote:I read about that the other day... kind of wild. Hopefully a cure will come soon, a mass anecdote to send to all the countries we sent it to in the first place.


We sent it to?? My dean Rhi...the HIV virus came from the chimps.

Go read about it.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:15 am
by Rhiannon
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:I read about that the other day... kind of wild. Hopefully a cure will come soon, a mass anecdote to send to all the countries we sent it to in the first place.


We sent it to?? My dean Rhi...the HIV virus came from the chimps.

Go read about it.


My college bio professor told us about the chimps but said (and this is 5 years later so bear with me) that American missionaries were responsible for infecting African tribespeople with the virus. I can't remember if it was via STD or some fucked up vaccine thing.

That's what I heard! From an esteemed, though highly biased, professor.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:15 am
by stevew2
Rhiannon wrote:
Arianddu wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:I read about that the other day... kind of wild. Hopefully a cure will come soon, a mass anecdote to send to all the countries we sent it to in the first place.


I think you mean antidote :lol: :lol: :lol:
Having a long day?


I suck at words every so often. And yes, my mind is not with me today. :oops: :lol:
Watch your spelling please, thats one of my quirks

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:19 am
by Arianddu
stevew2 wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Arianddu wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:I read about that the other day... kind of wild. Hopefully a cure will come soon, a mass anecdote to send to all the countries we sent it to in the first place.


I think you mean antidote :lol: :lol: :lol:
Having a long day?


I suck at words every so often. And yes, my mind is not with me today. :oops: :lol:
Watch your spelling please, thats one of my quirks


You got it perfectly spelled, though missing punctuation, Stevie-Woo. And she spelled it right, just got the wrong word.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:19 am
by Tito
Damn. There goes any chance of saving the world now. We'll never get rid of the libs now.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:25 am
by Enigma869
RossValoryRocks wrote:
We sent it to?? My dean Rhi...the HIV virus came from the chimps.

Go read about it.


Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


John from Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:28 am
by stevew2
Tito wrote:Damn. There goes any chance of saving the world now. We'll never get rid of the libs now.
You really are a prick

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:28 am
by Rhiannon
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:34 am
by stevew2
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.
i heard it was from screwing monkeys

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:40 am
by RossValoryRocks
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.


The virus crossed the species barrier from Chimps to humans because of the bush meat trade.

Through DNA sequencing the have determined it happened approximated 100 or so years ago. However until the late 70's the number of infections was low enough that it flew under the radar.

Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:43 am
by Tito
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.


The virus crossed the species barrier from Chimps to humans because of the bush meat trade.

Through DNA sequencing the have determined it happened approximated 100 or so years ago. However until the late 70's the number of infections was low enough that it flew under the radar.

Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).


How did the number of infections explode like they did?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:46 am
by Rhiannon
RossValoryRocks wrote:Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).


That's it... that's what she told us it was... Polio vaccines. Well, like I said... it's been 5 years since that lecture and I obviously spent more time passing notes than I did paying attention (still aced the course though... bio = easy). And if it was conclusively disproved in the past 5 years, and I never cared to read up on it, that explains my epic wrongness.

Thanks for setting me right, Stu, as you tend to do. :)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:49 am
by bluejeangirl76
Rhiannon wrote:I obviously spent more time passing notes than I did paying attention (still aced the course though... bio = easy). And if it was conclusively disproved in the past 5 years, and I never cared to read up on it, that explains my epic wrongness.


What's your excuse the rest of the time then? :?:

:lol: KIDDING. :wink:

You --> open door --> You :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:56 am
by Rhiannon
bluejeangirl76 wrote:What's your excuse the rest of the time then? :?:


I've been wrong before... I was wrong back in '88. Then there was another time in '95. Other than that, I'm pretty good.

How's track 12 coming along for you? Rainstorms in the forecast? :twisted: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:58 am
by stevew2
Tito wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.


The virus crossed the species barrier from Chimps to humans because of the bush meat trade.

Through DNA sequencing the have determined it happened approximated 100 or so years ago. However until the late 70's the number of infections was low enough that it flew under the radar.

Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).


How did the number of infections explode like they did?
This is how you fuckin city slicker, squeal you bitch

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:00 am
by bluejeangirl76
Rhiannon wrote:How's track 12 coming along for you? Rainstorms in the forecast? :twisted: :lol:


There is no track 12... but the radio hooked me up with a 4th one, if ya know what I mean.
Showers tapering off, partly sunny, but likely to rain again at least once before 5 pm. 8)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:05 am
by Tito
stevew2 wrote:
Tito wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.


The virus crossed the species barrier from Chimps to humans because of the bush meat trade.

Through DNA sequencing the have determined it happened approximated 100 or so years ago. However until the late 70's the number of infections was low enough that it flew under the radar.

Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).


How did the number of infections explode like they did?
This is how you fuckin city slicker, squeal you bitch


You mean homosexual activity?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:12 am
by RossValoryRocks
Tito wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.


The virus crossed the species barrier from Chimps to humans because of the bush meat trade.

Through DNA sequencing the have determined it happened approximated 100 or so years ago. However until the late 70's the number of infections was low enough that it flew under the radar.

Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).


How did the number of infections explode like they did?

Actually most HIV infections are spread via heterosexual contact in africa. It was merchant sailors that were first infected and brought it to the US.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:13 am
by stevew2
Tito wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Tito wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.


The virus crossed the species barrier from Chimps to humans because of the bush meat trade.

Through DNA sequencing the have determined it happened approximated 100 or so years ago. However until the late 70's the number of infections was low enough that it flew under the radar.

Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).


How did the number of infections explode like they did?
This is how you fuckin city slicker, squeal you bitch


You mean homosexual activity?
thats one of the ways,it aint natrual to put thing s you ass like that

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:13 am
by Ehwmatt
RossValoryRocks wrote:[
Actually most HIV infections are spread via heterosexual contact in africa. It was merchant sailors that were first infected and brought it to the US.


You seem relatively knowledgeable on the subject Stu... you read any books? HIV/AIDS fascinates me

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:17 am
by RossValoryRocks
Ehwmatt wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Actually most HIV infections are spread via heterosexual contact in africa. It was merchant sailors that were first infected and brought it to the US.


You seem relatively knowledgeable on the subject Stu... you read any books? HIV/AIDS fascinates me


My college advisor was an HIV researcher at the Mayo clinic in Minn.

I did my senior these of HIV/AIDS many many moons ago...and by todays standard would be wrong wrong wrong...but with the information almost 20 years ago it was cutting edge stuff! LOL

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:19 am
by Tito
RossValoryRocks wrote:Actually most HIV infections are spread via heterosexual contact in africa. It was merchant sailors that were first infected and brought it to the US.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:28 am
by stevew2
Tito wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Actually most HIV infections are spread via heterosexual contact in africa. It was merchant sailors that were first infected and brought it to the US.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You are pretty quick today

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:37 am
by Ehwmatt
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Actually most HIV infections are spread via heterosexual contact in africa. It was merchant sailors that were first infected and brought it to the US.


You seem relatively knowledgeable on the subject Stu... you read any books? HIV/AIDS fascinates me


My college advisor was an HIV researcher at the Mayo clinic in Minn.

I did my senior these of HIV/AIDS many many moons ago...and by todays standard would be wrong wrong wrong...but with the information almost 20 years ago it was cutting edge stuff! LOL


Gotcha. I just put the finishing touches on my senior thesis today. Drinking a beer and rockin some guitar right now :)

But that's cool.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:52 am
by StevePerryHair
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Tito wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Although it pains me to say it Rhi, I agree with Stu. I don't believe that the HIV virus has its origins in the United States.


Check my response to him above. I may have been misinformed by a professor... though she did spend part of her career trying to eradicate the virus and treat victims in 3rd world countries, so I was just apt to believe her. We might not be the original origin, in fact, I know we aren't...

Maybe I have my timeline wrong... chimps --> humans via vaccine --> to Africa via missionaries.

That might be more clear cut. Either way, I'm saying she said we took it (inadvertently) to Africa.


The virus crossed the species barrier from Chimps to humans because of the bush meat trade.

Through DNA sequencing the have determined it happened approximated 100 or so years ago. However until the late 70's the number of infections was low enough that it flew under the radar.

Not to knock your Proff, but thing have come to light much more recently than 5 years ago and the vaccine-HIV connection was conclusively DISPROVEN (The argument is that the polio virus was incubated in green monkey kidneys which were also positive for HIV and this contaminated the polio vaccines we sent).


How did the number of infections explode like they did?

Actually most HIV infections are spread via heterosexual contact in africa. It was merchant sailors that were first infected and brought it to the US.


I thought that flight attendants may have been involved too from what I remember of the older research? I know people first blamed the homosexual community for its spread but I don't think people realize how much quicker it has spread through the heterosexual community. The homosexual community actually declined quite a bit in its spread, while the heterosexual numbers continue to rise. I don't know if that has changed dramatically now or not though, with people finding out that there are drugs that can prolong your life. I think some people knowing they have meds, they may take more chances. I have to take a continuing ed course every 2 years on HIV for my med tech license, and as I'm sure many other medical people do also. It is interesting yet kind of scary too, to see the statistics changing as time goes on. But then there are scarier viruses out there than HIV. I hope they never make it here but I don't see how they won't eventually.