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OT: An original from me. An attempt at hard melodic rock.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:28 am
by Liquid_Drummer
I played all the instruments sang and wrote this attempt at hard rock with a melodic rock root. Trying to write in a way that can appeal to both fans of hard and melodic rock. Its an early idea in the vocal department as the vocal melody and even lyrics are subject to change. The music I am happy with.. Tell me what you think... I am really proud of the middle section which sounds a bit like Lay it on the line meets the police.

http://media.putfile.com/music-89-90

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:10 am
by brandonx76
Nice tune - has a nickelback / AOR 80's throwback vibe to it. Just need to bring the production values up. Playing is good throughout too! Like the doubletime police midsection too.

This could be on Modern Rock radio for sure.

my Sunday mornin' .02

cheers,

- Brandon

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:22 am
by Voyager
Great singer!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:07 am
by Saint John
Excellent all the way around!!! Please post the lyrics. I was able to hear most of them, but would love to actually see all of them.

Re: OT: An original from me. An attempt at hard melodic rock

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:26 am
by MBPL
Liquid_Drummer wrote:I played all the instruments sang and wrote this attempt at hard rock with a melodic rock root. Trying to write in a way that can appeal to both fans of hard and melodic rock. Its an early idea in the vocal department as the vocal melody and even lyrics are subject to change. The music I am happy with.. Tell me what you think... I am really proud of the middle section which sounds a bit like Lay it on the line meets the police.

http://media.putfile.com/music-89-90


You kidding me? F**king kick ass in my opinion. Everyone on this site seems to be so very creative and talented. Now, I don't have the greatest ear for music, so I cannot tell you about pitch, tone lyrics, blah, blah, boop, I just go with what I like, and I love the harmony. Welp, like I always say, DO THE DAMNED THANG!! Good luck, MBPL

Re: OT: An original from me. An attempt at hard melodic rock

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:29 am
by chica
Liquid_Drummer wrote:I played all the instruments sang and wrote this attempt at hard rock with a melodic rock root.

http://media.putfile.com/music-89-90

Hey L_D, ........ It ROCKS! Love it! It sounds awesome!! :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:26 am
by G.I.Jim
Sounds great man! I really like it and you should definitely keep working on these songs. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:42 am
by Liquid_Drummer
THx for the thumbs up folks.. JUst trying to put the feelers out to see if I am headed in the right direction. The production values wont go up unless I spend some big cash. The drums were recorded with one mic..hehe

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:55 am
by Liquid_Drummer
Saint John wrote:Excellent all the way around!!! Please post the lyrics. I was able to hear most of them, but would love to actually see all of them.


I am limited in the lyrical dept. I have to find what sounds like it flows well with the music as it comes to me before the lyrics.


Blue grey the sky beneath my feet.
Oceans of time are lost to me.
Cant think of keeping on, no interest in the dawn.
Dont look at me when i'm asleep.

Chorus

There must me somethin I have missed
Some little thing I cant resist.
Im just lookin for a reason to exist.

Some way to carry all this weight
I'm not the one that I should hate.
Im just searching for a reason to exist.

Dont make me look me in the eye.
Cant face a life filled full of lies.
I've faked it all this time.
Cant seem to make it rhyme. (this line came when I said to it too myself as I was stuck on this part for a bit.. Kinda funny to me that it worked.)
Just want to keep my dignity.

Chorus

There must me something I have missed
Some little thing I cant resist.
Im just lookin for a reason to exist.

Some way to carry all this weight
I'm not the one that I should hate.
Im just searching for a reason to exist.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:12 am
by Saint John
I think the lyrics are great.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:48 am
by Ehwmatt
Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:54 am
by JH'sTXfan
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:56 am
by Ehwmatt
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx


Therein lies the problem... Looked into it already :/ I'm on a Mac running the latest Windows Media for Mac, but it's still causin me a problem...

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:58 am
by Jeremey
Hey LD, I think this is a really great start. You mention that there would have to be a lot more money involved for the production values to go up, but I want to encourage you to work with what you have to continue making improvements in your production and learning more about your software. You don't have to be an engineer or a producer, but the more you learn about getting your demo as close to what you'd like for it to sound, the happier you will be....And home recording software has really leveled the playing field in a lot of ways.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:59 am
by Jeremey
Ehwmatt wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx


Therein lies the problem... Looked into it already :/ I'm on a Mac running the latest Windows Media for Mac, but it's still causin me a problem...


If you are on a mac, you need to update for the latest flip4mac.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:36 am
by nutz4Neal
Liked it a lot LD! All around rock for me..I would buy this CD. :)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:40 am
by Ehwmatt
Jeremey wrote:
If you are on a mac, you need to update for the latest flip4mac.


I'm not going near Flip again, that thing fucked with all my stream settings and such for certain sites before I formatted. If LD can't get me a copy of the song I'll just check it out on a friend's PC soon enough.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:59 am
by Liquid_Drummer
Jeremey wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx


Therein lies the problem... Looked into it already :/ I'm on a Mac running the latest Windows Media for Mac, but it's still causin me a problem...


If you are on a mac, you need to update for the latest flip4mac.


What I need are good mics of every kind. Everything was run through a guitar pod 2.0 including the vocals.. Thats what i had to work with hehe. The drums are just one mic in the room and thats it. Everything else is a direct and the vocals were done on a sm57. Not ideal. I was using Sonar 5 on pc.

Shopping list..


Presonus 16 channel firewire mic pre amp with firewire.
Pencil condensers for over head on drums or acoustic instruments.
A decent Akg kick mic.
A large capsule tube condenser for vocals.

Now I need about 3 grand at least. Some day soon.. Taxes arnt that far way.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:04 am
by Jeremey
Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx


Therein lies the problem... Looked into it already :/ I'm on a Mac running the latest Windows Media for Mac, but it's still causin me a problem...


If you are on a mac, you need to update for the latest flip4mac.


What I need are good mics of every kind. Everything was run through a guitar pod 2.0 including the vocals.. Thats what i had to work with hehe. The drums are just one mic in the room and thats it. Everything else is a direct and the vocals were done on a sm57. Not ideal. I was using Sonar 5 on pc.

Shopping list..


Presonus 16 channel firewire mic pre amp with firewire.
Pencil condensers for over head on drums or acoustic instruments.
A decent Akg kick mic.
A large capsule tube condenser for vocals.

Now I need about 3 grand at least. Some day soon.. Taxes arnt that far way.


No no no my friend....


Get yourself a nice new iMac and max out the ram. Buy Logic 8 Pro. There are more drum loops than you'll ever need, as well as MIDI instruments, loops and samples. Get yourself a good preamp. I use a MOTU Ultralite but that's a 10 channel firewire and runs about $500 bucks. There are stereo preamps you can find that will do the job just fine. Don't even try to get involved in micing drums. Let someone else worry about that. You get a good scratch guitar/bass track down with loops in Garageband or Logic 8, then find a nice tube mic - MXL makes some very good ones for less than $600. When you get a SONG that you feel good about, then you go track out the people who know better than you how to make that demo into a nice big track.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:34 am
by Carla777
Hey...this is nice...sound very very good...like it...thanks for share it :)



ps. Any myspace account?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:45 am
by G.I.Jim
Jeremey wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx


Therein lies the problem... Looked into it already :/ I'm on a Mac running the latest Windows Media for Mac, but it's still causin me a problem...


If you are on a mac, you need to update for the latest flip4mac.


What I need are good mics of every kind. Everything was run through a guitar pod 2.0 including the vocals.. Thats what i had to work with hehe. The drums are just one mic in the room and thats it. Everything else is a direct and the vocals were done on a sm57. Not ideal. I was using Sonar 5 on pc.

Shopping list..


Presonus 16 channel firewire mic pre amp with firewire.
Pencil condensers for over head on drums or acoustic instruments.
A decent Akg kick mic.
A large capsule tube condenser for vocals.

Now I need about 3 grand at least. Some day soon.. Taxes arnt that far way.


No no no my friend....


Get yourself a nice new iMac and max out the ram. Buy Logic 8 Pro. There are more drum loops than you'll ever need, as well as MIDI instruments, loops and samples. Get yourself a good preamp. I use a MOTU Ultralite but that's a 10 channel firewire and runs about $500 bucks. There are stereo preamps you can find that will do the job just fine. Don't even try to get involved in micing drums. Let someone else worry about that. You get a good scratch guitar/bass track down with loops in Garageband or Logic 8, then find a nice tube mic - MXL makes some very good ones for less than $600. When you get a SONG that you feel good about, then you go track out the people who know better than you how to make that demo into a nice big track.



Jeremey...I hate to butt-in here, but the man just said he needs about 3 grand to get set-up. You said "No no no", and then gave him a list of stuff he needs that's probably $2500 to $3000 at least! :shock: :lol: I agree with him that stuff isn't cheap.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:47 am
by Ehwmatt
G.I.Jim wrote:
Jeremey...I hate to butt-in here, but the man just said he needs about 3 grand to get set-up. You said "No no no", and then gave him a list of stuff he needs that's probably $2500 to $3000 at least! :shock: :lol: I agree with him that stuff isn't cheap.


Especially when you are also a musician! Man, music is an expensive hobby :D

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:53 am
by Michigan Girl
This is great, LD....Thanks!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:54 am
by G.I.Jim
Ehwmatt wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Jeremey...I hate to butt-in here, but the man just said he needs about 3 grand to get set-up. You said "No no no", and then gave him a list of stuff he needs that's probably $2500 to $3000 at least! :shock: :lol: I agree with him that stuff isn't cheap.


Especially when you are also a musician! Man, music is an expensive hobby :D


Amen brother! One of my keyboards alone cost over $3400.00! :shock: I've sunk a lot of money into this "Dream" of mine, but it's definitely worth it. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:55 am
by Jeremey
G.I.Jim wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx


Therein lies the problem... Looked into it already :/ I'm on a Mac running the latest Windows Media for Mac, but it's still causin me a problem...


If you are on a mac, you need to update for the latest flip4mac.


What I need are good mics of every kind. Everything was run through a guitar pod 2.0 including the vocals.. Thats what i had to work with hehe. The drums are just one mic in the room and thats it. Everything else is a direct and the vocals were done on a sm57. Not ideal. I was using Sonar 5 on pc.

Shopping list..


Presonus 16 channel firewire mic pre amp with firewire.
Pencil condensers for over head on drums or acoustic instruments.
A decent Akg kick mic.
A large capsule tube condenser for vocals.

Now I need about 3 grand at least. Some day soon.. Taxes arnt that far way.


No no no my friend....


Get yourself a nice new iMac and max out the ram. Buy Logic 8 Pro. There are more drum loops than you'll ever need, as well as MIDI instruments, loops and samples. Get yourself a good preamp. I use a MOTU Ultralite but that's a 10 channel firewire and runs about $500 bucks. There are stereo preamps you can find that will do the job just fine. Don't even try to get involved in micing drums. Let someone else worry about that. You get a good scratch guitar/bass track down with loops in Garageband or Logic 8, then find a nice tube mic - MXL makes some very good ones for less than $600. When you get a SONG that you feel good about, then you go track out the people who know better than you how to make that demo into a nice big track.



Jeremey...I hate to butt-in here, but the man just said he needs about 3 grand to get set-up. You said "No no no", and then gave him a list of stuff he needs that's probably $2500 to $3000 at least! :shock: :lol: I agree with him that stuff isn't cheap.


Au contraire my friend. Without the Ultralite you can find a very nice stereo preamp....And still come in around 2600 bucks. But the return on the investment for the mac would very much outstrip the initial investment.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:58 am
by G.I.Jim
Jeremey wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
JH'sTXfan wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Hey man, I've heard your Journey covers before and they rocked. But, for some reason, I can't get the file to play on either of my browsers from that site... you got a myspace or could you even e-mail it to me? I'd love to hear it...


Rick was nice enough to help me out with the same problem yesterday. You have to update Windows Media.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... loads.aspx


Therein lies the problem... Looked into it already :/ I'm on a Mac running the latest Windows Media for Mac, but it's still causin me a problem...


If you are on a mac, you need to update for the latest flip4mac.


What I need are good mics of every kind. Everything was run through a guitar pod 2.0 including the vocals.. Thats what i had to work with hehe. The drums are just one mic in the room and thats it. Everything else is a direct and the vocals were done on a sm57. Not ideal. I was using Sonar 5 on pc.

Shopping list..


Presonus 16 channel firewire mic pre amp with firewire.
Pencil condensers for over head on drums or acoustic instruments.
A decent Akg kick mic.
A large capsule tube condenser for vocals.

Now I need about 3 grand at least. Some day soon.. Taxes arnt that far way.


No no no my friend....


Get yourself a nice new iMac and max out the ram. Buy Logic 8 Pro. There are more drum loops than you'll ever need, as well as MIDI instruments, loops and samples. Get yourself a good preamp. I use a MOTU Ultralite but that's a 10 channel firewire and runs about $500 bucks. There are stereo preamps you can find that will do the job just fine. Don't even try to get involved in micing drums. Let someone else worry about that. You get a good scratch guitar/bass track down with loops in Garageband or Logic 8, then find a nice tube mic - MXL makes some very good ones for less than $600. When you get a SONG that you feel good about, then you go track out the people who know better than you how to make that demo into a nice big track.



Jeremey...I hate to butt-in here, but the man just said he needs about 3 grand to get set-up. You said "No no no", and then gave him a list of stuff he needs that's probably $2500 to $3000 at least! :shock: :lol: I agree with him that stuff isn't cheap.


Au contraire my friend. Without the Ultralite you can find a very nice stereo preamp....And still come in around 2600 bucks. But the return on the investment for the mac would very much outstrip the initial investment.



Dude!!! I just said it'd run $2500 to $3000, and you say....no, it'd run $2600. Am I smoking something here? :shock: :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:02 pm
by Jeremey
G.I.Jim wrote:

Dude!!! I just said it'd run $2500 to $3000, and you say....no, it'd run $2600. Am I smoking something here? :shock: :lol:


No. I'm on a lot of anxiety medicine tonight and I feel like I'm coming off of Everest while bypassing every base camp. we are on the same page, but I just use a mac and u use hardware.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:07 pm
by G.I.Jim
Jeremey wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:

Dude!!! I just said it'd run $2500 to $3000, and you say....no, it'd run $2600. Am I smoking something here? :shock: :lol:


No. I'm on a lot of anxiety medicine tonight and I feel like I'm coming off of Everest while bypassing every base camp. we are on the same page, but I just use a mac and u use hardware.


Well don't be a hater...HATER! :lol: My hardware has done me right so far, but I will jump up to software based probably within the next year or two. There's so much more you can do with software!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:27 pm
by Jeremey
G.I.Jim wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:

Dude!!! I just said it'd run $2500 to $3000, and you say....no, it'd run $2600. Am I smoking something here? :shock: :lol:


No. I'm on a lot of anxiety medicine tonight and I feel like I'm coming off of Everest while bypassing every base camp. we are on the same page, but I just use a mac and u use hardware.


Well don't be a hater...HATER! :lol: My hardware has done me right so far, but I will jump up to software based probably within the next year or two. There's so much more you can do with software!


Bejeezus, your hardware has cost you much more than this aluminum and glass box!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:31 pm
by G.I.Jim
Jeremey wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Jeremey wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:

Dude!!! I just said it'd run $2500 to $3000, and you say....no, it'd run $2600. Am I smoking something here? :shock: :lol:


No. I'm on a lot of anxiety medicine tonight and I feel like I'm coming off of Everest while bypassing every base camp. we are on the same page, but I just use a mac and u use hardware.


Well don't be a hater...HATER! :lol: My hardware has done me right so far, but I will jump up to software based probably within the next year or two. There's so much more you can do with software!


Bejeezus, your hardware has cost you much more than this aluminum and glass box!


My recorder only cost me $1400. My keyboard is what I was referring to that cost over $3400. I got a hell of a deal on the recorder, as it ran $2200 at the time. I bought mine off of ebay and it was brand new, never opened.