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OT: "I WEEP for the younger Generation..."

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:06 pm
by TRAGChick
....to quote the snarky Maitre'D from "Ferris Bueller"...
Hell...at least HE was cooler than THIS.... :roll:

WTF HAPPENED to people.....???? :x
Is THIS what it takes to be a "Celebrity" :roll: :x these days??

GOOD LORD
:evil:
http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id= ... vid=329025

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:17 pm
by artist4perry
Trash TV.

I hear your pain, Tragchick. Here you are bustin your but singing your heart out and these loosers get all the attention?

In art we have equal stupidity. I see artist work their fingers to the bone, only to have this kind of art in the article below get all the credit! :evil: :evil: :evil:

Shit Art - Cloaca Machine
I was just watching a program about the Belgian conceptual artist Wim Delvoye. It got me thinking about what art really is. It's a question that is asked so much that it can become boring even thinking about it. But his Cloaca machine forced me to ask myself what art is again.
It's a machine that mimics the human digestive system, from the mouth to the bottom hole. Delvoye feeds Cloaca normal human food and shit comes out the other end. The end product is wrapped in plastic and sold to adoring art collectors.
There have been several versions of his cloaca machine, with the latest being a vertical system that works more like a person.
According to the website dedicated to his shit making machine, they have all sold out, with one hundred pieces being kept for "future capitalization".
He isn't the first artist to use feces to create art either, as the Italian artist Piero Manzoni became famous for canning his own waste and calling his works "Artist's Shit". The MoMA has one.
I can't imagine owning any of the works, but it does make one think about art and the people that buy it.
>> Art Collecting, Art Controversies

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:19 pm
by Ratgirl
Only on VH1 could they air a show so rediculously stupid. :shock: :lol:

On the topic of "younger generation". I took my daughter to see Twilight the movie a couple weeks ago.
So of course after buying her the books I had to see what her fascination was. I picked up the first book and
didn't put it down for 2 days. :lol: In a weeks time I read all 4 books that she had. :shock:

Sadly, I'm just as intrigued as she is by the next movie. :oops: I get dragged to alot of movies and this
one was actually worth seeing.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:21 pm
by TRAGChick
Ratgirl wrote:Only on VH1 could they air a show so rediculously stupid. :shock: :lol:

On the topic of "younger generation". I took my daughter to see Twilight the movie a couple weeks ago.
So of course after buying her the books I had to see what her fascination was. I picked up the first book and
didn't put it down for 2 days. :lol: In a weeks time I read all 4 books that she had. :shock:

Sadly, I'm just as intrigued as she is by the next movie. :oops: I get dragged to alot of movies and this
one was actually worth seeing.


Well....I'm over 40 so, to ME, the "younger generation" is the twenty-somethings - that's where my beef was targeted.

Glad you found "common ground" with your young-un :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:37 pm
by Arianddu
What gets me is that this is marketed as 'real life drama' instead of what it is - slapstick comedy.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:39 pm
by TRAGChick
Arianddu wrote:What gets me is that this is marketed as 'real life drama' instead of what it is - slapstick comedy.


Yeah...you have a point. :lol: :lol:

These guys are living and breathing JOKES :twisted:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:45 pm
by Angel
"Reality" TV is out of control. The problem is, people watch it and it's like a bad wreck, you don't want to look but you just HAVE to. I got so pissed off at myself that I got hooked on "Rock of Love" and then "Real Housewives of Orange County" stupid, ridiculous shows...I can feel my IQ fall as I watch them.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:46 pm
by mikemarrs
i'll be 34 here in a couple weeks and i think this whole thing goes back to the 90's.i can remember having great music,movies and pretty good schools too growing up in the 80's and feeling pretty safe with no worries and having a good attitude and outlook for the future.in the 1990's when the gangster rap with talk of killings and murders,reality shows,jerry springer with trailer trash and making a mockery of people cheating and breaking up relationships and alternative stuff like kurt cobain constantly whining and making an art out of and making it cool to give up on life and be strung out on heroin than all these kids get influenced by that.kids had nothing to be influenced by and of course by the end of the 90's you had dumbed down stuff like britney spears and crap like limp bizkit.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:47 pm
by TRAGChick
Angel wrote:"Reality" TV is out of control. The problem is, people watch it and it's like a bad wreck, you don't want to look but you just HAVE to. I got so pissed off at myself that I got hooked on "Rock of Love" and then "Real Housewives of Orange County" stupid, ridiculous shows...I can feel my IQ fall as I watch them.


Well hey...

You hang out here with The REAL People of MelRock.
So, ya can't be ALL bad.

:lol: :twisted: :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:48 pm
by artist4perry
Arianddu wrote:What gets me is that this is marketed as 'real life drama' instead of what it is - slapstick comedy.

Or hammed up bad acting........... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I watched the Rock of Love show out of curiosity the other day. He had a whole line of air headed girls, ( a few had some sense, but not many) taking them on tour, supposedly to find "true love". He said if it doesn't work this time he will give up. Try some classier ladies! One drank a lot threw up and french kissed Brett afterwards.........only time I thought the show had some comedy to it! LOL! He talked about the taste of her kiss he could not put his finger on! LOL! One was so drunk at the elimination night she could barely stand up. Cat fights, boob shots and tacky behavior. They might be fun to "play with" but a serious lasting relationship? LOL! I love what Alice Cooper once said, "I love these guys who are married for the forth time to yet anouther stripper, and they wonder why it doesn't work out..........She's a stripper!"

Before some of you get your panties in a bunch I am not knocking all ladies who are sexily built. I just think if you want a lasting relationship, get to know her under all the icing and sillacone! See if their is anything that would intrest you once the beauty fades.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:48 pm
by Ratgirl
Angel wrote:"Reality" TV is out of control. The problem is, people watch it and it's like a bad wreck, you don't want to look but you just HAVE to. I got so pissed off at myself that I got hooked on "Rock of Love" and then "Real Housewives of Orange County" stupid, ridiculous shows...I can feel my IQ fall as I watch them.


I find myself turning that crap off and reading MR instead. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:50 pm
by mikemarrs
hey i gave up cable three years ago and don't regret it.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:52 pm
by Angel
Ratgirl wrote:
Angel wrote:"Reality" TV is out of control. The problem is, people watch it and it's like a bad wreck, you don't want to look but you just HAVE to. I got so pissed off at myself that I got hooked on "Rock of Love" and then "Real Housewives of Orange County" stupid, ridiculous shows...I can feel my IQ fall as I watch them.


I find myself turning that crap off and reading MR instead. :lol:

I watch it WHILE I read MR...I'm SSSSOO messed up. (I say as I type and watch Family Guy). :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:53 pm
by artist4perry
mikemarrs wrote:hey i gave up cable three years ago and don't regret it.

I rarely watch TV. Little is truely interesting, and I find when I do watch it, sometimes it is because I have raging heartburn and can't sleep. I keep hoping if i prop myself up and watch this crap, I will bore myself to sleep quickly.........works! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:54 pm
by TRAGChick
mikemarrs wrote:i'll be 34 here in a couple weeks and i think this whole thing goes back to the 90's.

i can remember having great music,movies and pretty good schools too growing up in the 80's and feeling pretty safe with no worries and having a good attitude and outlook for the future.

in the 1990's when the gangster rap with talk of killings and murders,reality shows,jerry springer with trailer trash and making a mockery of people cheating and breaking up relationships and alternative stuff like kurt cobain constantly whining and making an art out of and making it cool to give up on life and be strung out on heroin than all these kids get influenced by that.

kids had nothing to be influenced by and of course by the end of the 90's you had dumbed down stuff like britney spears and crap like limp bizkit.


Hope you don't mind that I broke up your original post...but I did that for a reason:

And my reason is.....you just outlined yet ANOTHER reason why I hated the 90s Music Scene.
THANK YOU for doing that.....and yes...I believe that most of what you posted = where we are right now.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:54 pm
by mikemarrs
other than football season i don't watch it period.i'll read or get online.i was at a friends andmarveled how he had three hundred channels of nothing.i didn't see one thing even interesting.its very overrated and basically crap.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:56 pm
by Angel
artist4perry wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:hey i gave up cable three years ago and don't regret it.

I rarely watch TV. Little is truely interesting, and I find when I do watch it, sometimes it is because I have raging heartburn and can't sleep. I keep hoping if i prop myself up and watch this crap, I will bore myself to sleep quickly.........works! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's when the best reality TV is on...Rock of Love marathons all night long! That's usually when I watch too..although, I will admit-I never JUST watch TV, sometimes it's on but I'm always doing something else, I can't stand to just watch TV. My kids can't figure out how/why, I have to read a book while we watch movies. I MUST multitask!!!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:58 pm
by Michigan Girl
TRAGChick wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i'll be 34 here in a couple weeks and i think this whole thing goes back to the 90's.

i can remember having great music,movies and pretty good schools too growing up in the 80's and feeling pretty safe with no worries and having a good attitude and outlook for the future.

in the 1990's when the gangster rap with talk of killings and murders,reality shows,jerry springer with trailer trash and making a mockery of people cheating and breaking up relationships and alternative stuff like kurt cobain constantly whining and making an art out of and making it cool to give up on life and be strung out on heroin than all these kids get influenced by that.

kids had nothing to be influenced by and of course by the end of the 90's you had dumbed down stuff like britney spears and crap like limp bizkit.


Hope you don't mind that I broke up your original post...but I did that for a reason:

And my reason is.....you just outlined yet ANOTHER reason why I hated the 90s Music Scene.
THANK YOU for doing that.....and yes...I believe that most of what you posted = where we are right now.

+1
It's an excellent post!! :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:01 pm
by artist4perry
Angel wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:hey i gave up cable three years ago and don't regret it.

I rarely watch TV. Little is truely interesting, and I find when I do watch it, sometimes it is because I have raging heartburn and can't sleep. I keep hoping if i prop myself up and watch this crap, I will bore myself to sleep quickly.........works! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's when the best reality TV is on...Rock of Love marathons all night long! That's usually when I watch too..although, I will admit-I never JUST watch TV, sometimes it's on but I'm always doing something else, I can't stand to just watch TV. My kids can't figure out how/why, I have to read a book while we watch movies. I MUST multitask!!!

I draw............. TV is just a noise to sleep to. I prefer talking to you guys, working on art, and being with my family. We rarely watch TV. When is the last time you just had to see a program so much you taped it? I liked Pushing Daises, but it was because it was out of the norm. It was surreal in plot, artistic sets, and had a sub plot running in every show. It was a bit escape entertainment, but just different enough. Sad the ones I like get canceled! :evil:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:09 pm
by mikemarrs
TRAGChick wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i'll be 34 here in a couple weeks and i think this whole thing goes back to the 90's.

i can remember having great music,movies and pretty good schools too growing up in the 80's and feeling pretty safe with no worries and having a good attitude and outlook for the future.

in the 1990's when the gangster rap with talk of killings and murders,reality shows,jerry springer with trailer trash and making a mockery of people cheating and breaking up relationships and alternative stuff like kurt cobain constantly whining and making an art out of and making it cool to give up on life and be strung out on heroin than all these kids get influenced by that.

kids had nothing to be influenced by and of course by the end of the 90's you had dumbed down stuff like britney spears and crap like limp bizkit.


Hope you don't mind that I broke up your original post...but I did that for a reason:

And my reason is.....you just outlined yet ANOTHER reason why I hated the 90s Music Scene.
THANK YOU for doing that.....and yes...I believe that most of what you posted = where we are right now.




thanks and believe me i used to have fights back then with these idiots who would tell me that smashing pumpkins were a thousand times better than journey and that def leppard couldn't hold a candle to soundgarden,lol.so i must ask these grunge dummies here in 2009 who are more relevant these days journey and def leppard or soundgarden and pumpkins.i used to be at parties and if put on journey i'd get the rolled eyes look so everyone could play weezer.i fucking hated the 90's with an unbridaled passion.i would be told i was stuck in the eighties and i would say i would rather be stuck there than deal with what i call the 90's in a nutshell...lame.the 90's i think is where the younger generation really started getting negative and losing hope.it became cool in the 90's to hate everything and be apathetic.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:15 pm
by TRAGChick
mikemarrs wrote:thanks and believe me i used to have fights back then with these idiots who would tell me that smashing pumpkins were a thousand times better than journey and that def leppard couldn't hold a candle to soundgarden,lol.

so i must ask these grunge dummies here in 2009 who are more relevant these days journey and def leppard or soundgarden and pumpkins.


Journey gets props. 8)

i used to be at parties and if put on journey i'd get the rolled eyes look so everyone could play weezer.i fucking hated the 90's with an unbridaled passion.i would be told i was stuck in the eighties and i would say i would rather be stuck there than deal with what i call the 90's in a nutshell...lame


Hell-to-the-YEAH!! :twisted:

the 90's i think is where the younger generation really started getting negative and losing hope.it became cool in the 90's to hate everything and be apathetic.


Their loss.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:16 pm
by ProgRocker53
mikemarrs wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i'll be 34 here in a couple weeks and i think this whole thing goes back to the 90's.

i can remember having great music,movies and pretty good schools too growing up in the 80's and feeling pretty safe with no worries and having a good attitude and outlook for the future.

in the 1990's when the gangster rap with talk of killings and murders,reality shows,jerry springer with trailer trash and making a mockery of people cheating and breaking up relationships and alternative stuff like kurt cobain constantly whining and making an art out of and making it cool to give up on life and be strung out on heroin than all these kids get influenced by that.

kids had nothing to be influenced by and of course by the end of the 90's you had dumbed down stuff like britney spears and crap like limp bizkit.


Hope you don't mind that I broke up your original post...but I did that for a reason:

And my reason is.....you just outlined yet ANOTHER reason why I hated the 90s Music Scene.
THANK YOU for doing that.....and yes...I believe that most of what you posted = where we are right now.




thanks and believe me i used to have fights back then with these idiots who would tell me that smashing pumpkins were a thousand times better than journey and that def leppard couldn't hold a candle to soundgarden,lol.so i must ask these grunge dummies here in 2009 who are more relevant these days journey and def leppard or soundgarden and pumpkins.i used to be at parties and if put on journey i'd get the rolled eyes look so everyone could play weezer.i fucking hated the 90's with an unbridaled passion.i would be told i was stuck in the eighties and i would say i would rather be stuck there than deal with what i call the 90's in a nutshell...lame.the 90's i think is where the younger generation really started getting negative and losing hope.it became cool in the 90's to hate everything and be apathetic.


Hey now, Soundgarden and the Smashing Pumpkins are pretty legit.

But not as awesome as Lep and Journey, though, you're right there. :)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:17 pm
by Lula
Ratgirl wrote:Only on VH1 could they air a show so rediculously stupid. :shock: :lol:

On the topic of "younger generation". I took my daughter to see Twilight the movie a couple weeks ago.
So of course after buying her the books I had to see what her fascination was. I picked up the first book and
didn't put it down for 2 days. :lol: In a weeks time I read all 4 books that she had. :shock:

Sadly, I'm just as intrigued as she is by the next movie. :oops: I get dragged to alot of movies and this
one was actually worth seeing.


i too got sucked into the twilight books- middle school teacher. have you read edward's version of twilight "midnight sun?" i really liked it. there is a partial draft here-

http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:26 pm
by Ratgirl
Lula wrote:
Ratgirl wrote:Only on VH1 could they air a show so rediculously stupid. :shock: :lol:

On the topic of "younger generation". I took my daughter to see Twilight the movie a couple weeks ago.
So of course after buying her the books I had to see what her fascination was. I picked up the first book and
didn't put it down for 2 days. :lol: In a weeks time I read all 4 books that she had. :shock:

Sadly, I'm just as intrigued as she is by the next movie. :oops: I get dragged to alot of movies and this
one was actually worth seeing.


i too got sucked into the twilight books- middle school teacher. have you read edward's version of twilight "midnight sun?" i really liked it. there is a partial draft here-

http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html


Funny you say that.. my daughter's middle school teacher got her into the books.

Not yet.. my daughter is going into the hospital next week for observation so I figure that should help pass the time. I'm itching to read it though. :D

Re: OT: "I WEEP for the younger Generation..."

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:13 pm
by lights1961
TRAGChick wrote:....to quote the snarky Maitre'D from "Ferris Bueller"...
Hell...at least HE was cooler than THIS.... :roll:

WTF HAPPENED to people.....???? :x
Is THIS what it takes to be a "Celebrity" :roll: :x these days??

GOOD LORD
:evil:
http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id= ... vid=329025


Survivor is still the best reality tv out there..
and I get a kick out of top model...tyra's hot...
the train wrecks are rock of love and charm school...

Rick

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:15 pm
by squirt1
30yrs ago there were doctor shows and westerns, then game shows galore and now reality shows. Dancing with the former stars that are trying to regain any attention is disgusting. The copy cat cooking shows have become just as annoying . Do any show producers have ONE new idea ? But, really there are many, many braindead watchers that create their ratings. It is just so sad.

Re: OT: "I WEEP for the younger Generation..."

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:32 pm
by artist4perry
lights1961 wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:....to quote the snarky Maitre'D from "Ferris Bueller"...
Hell...at least HE was cooler than THIS.... :roll:

WTF HAPPENED to people.....???? :x
Is THIS what it takes to be a "Celebrity" :roll: :x these days??

GOOD LORD
:evil:
http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id= ... vid=329025


Survivor is still the best reality tv out there..
and I get a kick out of top model...tyra's hot...
the train wrecks are rock of love and charm school... Rick


Agreed. I watched one out of curiosity, found out I had a good reason to change the Boob toob.....Where in Rock of Love, Boob Toob is literal! :wink: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:26 pm
by Carla777
this reality shows had nothing of real..most of the people only show histrionic behavior and that's why they are pick for that...i do watch this shows once and a while..but every time the content get more stupid (if this have any content at all) :twisted:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:30 pm
by stevew2
Carla777 wrote:this reality shows had nothing of real..most of the people only show histrionic behavior and that's why they are pick for that...i do watch this shows once and a while..but every time the content get more stupid (if this have any content at all) :twisted:
i only watch House and your Aviaters

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:22 pm
by Rip Rokken
Carla777 wrote:this reality shows had nothing of real..most of the people only show histrionic behavior and that's why they are pick for that...i do watch this shows once and a while..but every time the content get more stupid (if this have any content at all) :twisted:


I think we ought to start a special thread as a free public service to MelodicRock, where we identify people's personality disorders and help set them on the golden pathway to recovery. You know good and well that we have a healthy dose of Histrionics, Narcissists, Antisocials and perhaps a Borderline or two here...

So step forward and be counted, people! It's also ok to out someone else as an act of tough love.

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