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Kevin Shirley going to Manila

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:17 pm
by RocknRoll
http://cavemanproductions.com/cavediary.htm
Looks like the next DVD may be done in Manila.
Interesting that KS does not mention the Journey SuperBowl performance with Robert Plant there (and you know he watched it). I'm sure Arnel and Journey will be able to "pick themselves up, dust themselves off .....", except this time they're starting from a lot higher place.
I suspect (and hope) this will be a great performance by the band and hope it does show up on DVD. I'm sure there will be so many excited AP fans that will make sure it is well broadcast prior to the DVD (Is this a good thing? I don't know)
Re: Kevin Shirley going to Manila

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:24 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
RocknRoll wrote:http://cavemanproductions.com/cavediary.htm
Looks like the next DVD may be done in Manila.
Interesting that KS does not mention the Journey SuperBowl performance with Robert Plant there (and you know he watched it). I'm sure Arnel and Journey will be able to "pick themselves up, dust themselves off and start all over again", except this time they're starting from a lot higher place.
I suspect (and hope) this will be a great performance by the band and hope it does show up on DVD. I'm sure there will be so many excited AP fans that will make sure it is well broadcast prior to the DVD (Is this a good thing? I don't know)
I read this a couple of days ago, but didn't even make the connection that this might mean the next DVD is being shot there. Good thinking.
I too hope that it's a great performance by the band. But I wonder what people would say if it's not? Can't blame that on the climate...

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:28 pm
by Jana
I had a feeling it might be done in Manila. Plus that documentary is probably still being shot that's supposed to be out at the end of the year.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:31 pm
by The Sushi Hunter
The Manila concert is going to be awesome. Arnel is going to have so much energy there cause that's his home turf. That's got to be a once in a lifetime type of deal for him. Everything special to him in his life will be right there on stage with him. It for sure is going to be an amazing moment. I could never sing while crying, I sure hope he will be able to.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:32 pm
by Andrew
Not sure the band would film a full live DVD release anywhere but somewhere in the USA.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:33 pm
by Don
I thought they were doing three shows in a row in Japan, March 9,10,11. Then they have to fly to Manila for the show on the 14th. Doesn't seem like the best time to record a DVD when your singer just had a triple header a few days prior. Oh well, I guess they know best and they can always add a little studio magic. The setlist will have to be out of this world to make it a worth while purchase though.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:35 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
Andrew wrote:Not sure the band would film a full live DVD release anywhere but somewhere in the USA.
Is this Journey-specific? Because I'm picturing this show in Manila will have the type of atmosphere like the Rush In Rio DVD, and Rush seem to like having that one on DVD. I'm sure it's expensive as hell to record a DVD outside the US, but I wonder if they'll go for the novelty and the huge crowd?

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:36 pm
by The Sushi Hunter
If they shoot a video during the Asian trip, I got a feeling it will be done in Japan. But you can count on a bunch of video coming out shot during the Manila concert. Cause that concert is going to be huge for not only Journey but for the country of the Philippines as well. A DVD shot by Philippine entertainment groups would be a huge money making deal over there and they'd (the Philippines music industry) would be stupid not to have this concert video taped as best they can. KS may be going to Manila just to receive something from the Philippine people, or he has been invited to check out some of the talent over there.....just a thought....never know.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:36 pm
by RocknRoll
I just seem to remember that when the filming for a DVD was cancelled for one on the West Coast shows, Manila was mentioned.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:39 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
RocknRoll wrote:I just seem to remember that when the filming for a DVD was cancelled for one on the West Coast shows, Manila was mentioned.
Yeah, rumor had it that the Shoreline show in California in late September was going to be filmed. And then when it wasn't, the rumor was that it was because they'll film in Manila. But I never saw confirmation of either from anyone other than fans.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:39 pm
by Gideon
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Andrew wrote:Not sure the band would film a full live DVD release anywhere but somewhere in the USA.
Is this Journey-specific? Because I'm picturing this show in Manila will have the type of atmosphere like the Rush In Rio DVD, and Rush seem to like having that one on DVD. I'm sure it's expensive as hell to record a DVD outside the US, but I wonder if they'll go for the novelty and the huge crowd?
I hope so. It seemed like the Revelation DVD concert was quite small relative to even the one in Vegas with Augeri. I'd like to see a pretty damn good crowd. And better sound quality than on Revelation; I could barely hear Arnel on "Wildest Dreams" and a couple of others.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:41 pm
by RocknRoll
One other tidbit, Kevin Elson has basically always been "front of the house". Interesting change here.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:42 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
Gideon wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Andrew wrote:Not sure the band would film a full live DVD release anywhere but somewhere in the USA.
Is this Journey-specific? Because I'm picturing this show in Manila will have the type of atmosphere like the Rush In Rio DVD, and Rush seem to like having that one on DVD. I'm sure it's expensive as hell to record a DVD outside the US, but I wonder if they'll go for the novelty and the huge crowd?
I hope so. It seemed like the Revelation DVD concert was quite small relative to even the one in Vegas with Augeri. I'd like to see a pretty damn good crowd. And better sound quality than on Revelation; I could barely hear Arnel on "Wildest Dreams" and a couple of others.
Agree with you on that one. The Revelation DVD was simply a rush-job. The camera shots weren't that good (The camera on Deen in particular - he was always obscured by the drums), and the audio was shaky. Plus it was only 60 minutes long. They just wanted to get this one out in the Revelation package. I still think the Arrival DVD is one of the better-produced concert DVDs I've seen. I'd like to see them really take their time, shoot and produce it right, and release the whole show. Rush got it exactly right with their Snakes & Arrows Live DVD. Phenomenal on all counts.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:42 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
RocknRoll wrote:One other tidbit, Kevin Elson has basically always been "front of the house". Interesting change here.
I wonder what the deal is with that? He's been their FOH guy for quite some time. Interesting.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:45 pm
by Don
They say the best place to film a concert in Asia is the Budokan which has been tailored towards doing live filming, but that ain't happening obviously.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:48 pm
by Gideon
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Gideon wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Andrew wrote:Not sure the band would film a full live DVD release anywhere but somewhere in the USA.
Is this Journey-specific? Because I'm picturing this show in Manila will have the type of atmosphere like the Rush In Rio DVD, and Rush seem to like having that one on DVD. I'm sure it's expensive as hell to record a DVD outside the US, but I wonder if they'll go for the novelty and the huge crowd?
I hope so. It seemed like the Revelation DVD concert was quite small relative to even the one in Vegas with Augeri. I'd like to see a pretty damn good crowd. And better sound quality than on Revelation; I could barely hear Arnel on "Wildest Dreams" and a couple of others.
Agree with you on that one. The Revelation DVD was simply a rush-job. The camera shots weren't that good (The camera on Deen in particular - he was always obscured by the drums), and the audio was shaky. Plus it was only 60 minutes long. They just wanted to get this one out in the Revelation package. I still think the Arrival DVD is one of the better-produced concert DVDs I've seen. I'd like to see them really take their time, shoot and produce it right, and release the whole show. Rush got it exactly right with their Snakes & Arrows Live DVD. Phenomenal on all counts.
I'd like to see the following:
- Better sound quality; Arnel front-and-center but the backing vocals need to be cranked up as well. Revelation screwed the pootch with both the CD and DVD when it came to backing vocals and they're Journey staples. Get it right.
- Better video quality (the camera shots weren't shitty, but they were poor relative to Arrival).
- An intro. When I saw Journey in Nashville this year, they came out to AC/DC's "Back In Black" on the video screens and the crowd went fucknuts. It would be a great way to demonstrate the hype and intensity of the crowd before they ultimately get silenced for the performance.
- Extras?
Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:48 pm
by The Sushi Hunter
Gunbot wrote:They say the best place to film a concert in Asia is the Budokan which has been tailored towards doing live filming, but that ain't happening obviously.
I wouldn't be too sure just yet of that not happening. Those video guys in Japan would be just itching to get that film job.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:50 pm
by RocknRoll
Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that


Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:52 pm
by Gideon
RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

Are you being serious or facetious?
Honestly, I doubt they will, but I would be pleasantly surprised. I would also like some songs thrown in off of Arrival (i.e. "Higher Place" or "World Gone Wild" or "To Be Alive Again"), but I think I'm asking for too much.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:52 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
Gideon wrote:I'd like to see the following:
- Better sound quality; Arnel front-and-center but the backing vocals need to be cranked up as well. Revelation screwed the pootch with both the CD and DVD when it came to backing vocals and they're Journey staples. Get it right.
- Better video quality (the camera shots weren't shitty, but they were poor relative to Arrival).
- An intro. When I saw Journey in Nashville this year, they came out to AC/DC's "Back In Black" on the video screens and the crowd went fucknuts. It would be a great way to demonstrate the hype and intensity of the crowd before they ultimately get silenced for the performance.
- Extras?
Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
Damn right. All 28,000 people in Chicago exploded when Back In Black started and Journey was on the video board getting hyped backstage before the show. It was crazy how loud the place got. Not an empty chair in the house. I'd love to see that on a DVD.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:54 pm
by Don
Gideon wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

Are you being serious or facetious?

Honestly, I doubt they will, but I would be pleasantly surprised. I would also like some songs thrown in off of Arrival (i.e. "Higher Place" or "World Gone Wild" or "To Be Alive Again"), but I think I'm asking for too much.
They are going to balladville. Count on all the slow songs from Revelation and any other slow burners from the back catalogue.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:56 pm
by The Sushi Hunter
RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

I think so too. It's easier on Arnel to sound like......Arnel. Doing more of the Arnel era Journey songs is the ticket!

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:56 pm
by Gideon
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Gideon wrote:I'd like to see the following:
- Better sound quality; Arnel front-and-center but the backing vocals need to be cranked up as well. Revelation screwed the pootch with both the CD and DVD when it came to backing vocals and they're Journey staples. Get it right.
- Better video quality (the camera shots weren't shitty, but they were poor relative to Arrival).
- An intro. When I saw Journey in Nashville this year, they came out to AC/DC's "Back In Black" on the video screens and the crowd went fucknuts. It would be a great way to demonstrate the hype and intensity of the crowd before they ultimately get silenced for the performance.
- Extras?
Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
Damn right. All 28,000 people in Chicago exploded when Back In Black started and Journey was on the video board getting hyped backstage before the show. It was crazy how loud the place got. Not an empty chair in the house. I'd love to see that on a DVD.
Yeah.
I think they started it in Nashville, though, and it was surprising to see residents of the so-called country music capital of the world immediately on their feet. Cheap Trick was but a distant, foggy memory at that point.
Maybe you and I should be Journey's new management.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:56 pm
by Rick
Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

Are you being serious or facetious?

Honestly, I doubt they will, but I would be pleasantly surprised. I would also like some songs thrown in off of Arrival (i.e. "Higher Place" or "World Gone Wild" or "To Be Alive Again"), but I think I'm asking for too much.
They are going to balladville. Count on all the slow songs from Revelation and any other slow burners from the back catalogue.
That would be a shit DVD then, if that's the plan.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:56 pm
by RocknRoll
Gideon wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

Are you being serious or facetious?

Honestly, I doubt they will, but I would be pleasantly surprised. I would also like some songs thrown in off of Arrival (i.e. "Higher Place" or "World Gone Wild" or "To Be Alive Again"), but I think I'm asking for too much.
Absolutely serious. I thnk so many fans in the PI want to hear Arnel influenced songs. I'm betting on it. I love seeing someone else who loves "World Gone Wild". My other favorite from Arrival is "Livin To Do"

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:58 pm
by Gideon
Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

Are you being serious or facetious?

Honestly, I doubt they will, but I would be pleasantly surprised. I would also like some songs thrown in off of Arrival (i.e. "Higher Place" or "World Gone Wild" or "To Be Alive Again"), but I think I'm asking for too much.
They are going to balladville. Count on all the slow songs from Revelation and any other slow burners from the back catalogue.
Nah, I don't believe that. They rocked pretty damn hard this year; Neal has to sacrifice to the ballad gods in the studio. But when it comes to the live arena, he is lord of all he surveys. He'll nail that fucking rhythm guitar to Jonathan Cain's hands and paint a shit-eating grin on the keyboardist's face before that happens.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:00 pm
by Don
Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

Are you being serious or facetious?

Honestly, I doubt they will, but I would be pleasantly surprised. I would also like some songs thrown in off of Arrival (i.e. "Higher Place" or "World Gone Wild" or "To Be Alive Again"), but I think I'm asking for too much.
They are going to balladville. Count on all the slow songs from Revelation and any other slow burners from the back catalogue.
Nah, I don't believe that. They rocked pretty damn hard this year; Neal has to sacrifice to the ballad gods in the studio. But when it comes to the live arena, he is lord of all he surveys. He'll nail that fucking rhythm guitar to Jonathan Cain's hands and paint a shit-eating grin on the keyboardist's face before that happens.
Dude, go type tagalog song on youtube and get back with me.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:01 pm
by Red13JoePa
I thought the Revelation DVD from Vegas was really good including 3 of the best songs from the new album and a great venue and crowd, my guess is next dvd is archive related with perry at the helm.
And given that we have a great Revelation dvd I don't oppose going back in time again for the next dvd release.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:01 pm
by Jana
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Gideon wrote:I'd like to see the following:
- Better sound quality; Arnel front-and-center but the backing vocals need to be cranked up as well. Revelation screwed the pootch with both the CD and DVD when it came to backing vocals and they're Journey staples. Get it right.
- Better video quality (the camera shots weren't shitty, but they were poor relative to Arrival).
- An intro. When I saw Journey in Nashville this year, they came out to AC/DC's "Back In Black" on the video screens and the crowd went fucknuts. It would be a great way to demonstrate the hype and intensity of the crowd before they ultimately get silenced for the performance.
- Extras?
Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
Damn right. All 28,000 people in Chicago exploded when Back In Black started and Journey was on the video board getting hyped backstage before the show. It was crazy how loud the place got. Not an empty chair in the house. I'd love to see that on a DVD.
I hope they're not as sedate in the Philippines like they've been on some of those TV shows Arnel was on. I know the Plokkers will go nuts at the concert, but I don't know how Filipino audiences are, in general, at rock concerts compared to the U.S. You can see in Japan how much quieter they are. I'm sure somebody here can answer that question, like SH or GB. Of course, there will be a lot of pride for Arnel there, and, hopefully, that shows in audience response.

Posted:
Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:02 pm
by Gideon
Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Gideon wrote:Best of all, I'd like to see five Revelation songs. [/list]
I think you can bet on that

Are you being serious or facetious?

Honestly, I doubt they will, but I would be pleasantly surprised. I would also like some songs thrown in off of Arrival (i.e. "Higher Place" or "World Gone Wild" or "To Be Alive Again"), but I think I'm asking for too much.
They are going to balladville. Count on all the slow songs from Revelation and any other slow burners from the back catalogue.
Nah, I don't believe that. They rocked pretty damn hard this year; Neal has to sacrifice to the ballad gods in the studio. But when it comes to the live arena, he is lord of all he surveys. He'll nail that fucking rhythm guitar to Jonathan Cain's hands and paint a shit-eating grin on the keyboardist's face before that happens.
Dude, go type tagalog song on youtube and get back with me.
What the hell is tagalog song?