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OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:18 am
by madsplash
Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:20 am
by S2M
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:22 am
by madsplash
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:33 am
by RedWingFan
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?

My favorite Carlin bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:30 pm
by shaneslatts
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:39 pm
by madsplash
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.


Because "they" are even dumber and more brainwashed than Christians.

Condescending, or brilliant? Hmm........

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:49 pm
by Triple S
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.


Um - it's been a few months since I saw the movie (which I thoroughly enjoyed) - but I don't believe he limited his interviews or 'fun-poking' to Christians - I recall at least a couple of interviews with Muslims and others. Have you actually seen the movie???

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:53 pm
by verslibre
madsplash wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.


Because "they" are even dumber and more brainwashed than Christians.

Condescending, or brilliant? Hmm........



Do you have any Christian friends? Do you "hang" with each other? If you do, you'd better stop, lest you be seen associating with "dumb, brainwashed" people.

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:18 pm
by shaneslatts
madsplash wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.


Because "they" are even dumber and more brainwashed than Christians.

Condescending, or brilliant? Hmm........


I would say Condescending. Again, its one thing for Maher to poke fun at Christians and quite another to deal in his typical, smarmy, snarkish way with a bunch of devout Muslims. Dumb Christians? You mean like Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, Issac Newton, Washington, Moody, Torrey, etc, etc?
Someone asked me if I had seen the movie. No. But I have seen Marher to 'his thing' on TV enough to get a pretty clear picture. I doubt Maher would show the same contempt for the the Koran and Mohammad as he does with the Bible and Jesus. And the reason certainly is not because Maher is 'brilliant'. The reason is that if he aimed his utter contempt at the Koran and Mohammad the same way, his life would be in danger. Also, Maher would never even deal with a real theologian. God forbid that he would be shown to be a dolt. And again, the reason he wont deal with Muslims is not because they are 'dumber then Christians'. His problem is lack of guts. There is a better, more descriptive word then guts, but you get the picture.

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:12 pm
by madsplash
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.


Because "they" are even dumber and more brainwashed than Christians.

Condescending, or brilliant? Hmm........


I would say Condescending. Again, its one thing for Maher to poke fun at Christians and quite another to deal in his typical, smarmy, snarkish way with a bunch of devout Muslims. Dumb Christians? You mean like Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, Issac Newton, Washington, Moody, Torrey, etc, etc?
Someone asked me if I had seen the movie. No. But I have seen Marher to 'his thing' on TV enough to get a pretty clear picture. I doubt Maher would show the same contempt for the the Koran and Mohammad as he does with the Bible and Jesus. And the reason certainly is not because Maher is 'brilliant'. The reason is that if he aimed his utter contempt at the Koran and Mohammad the same way, his life would be in danger. Also, Maher would never even deal with a real theologian. God forbid that he would be shown to be a dolt. And again, the reason he wont deal with Muslims is not because they are 'dumber then Christians'. His problem is lack of guts. There is a better, more descriptive word then guts, but you get the picture.


Watch the movie. He DOES just as you question that he would. Of course religion would put someone's life in danger. :roll: I'm still waiting for God to come and wipe out the devil. Some say that he's going to. OK. Hurry up! What's the delay?

Just ask the tooth fairy and santa claus. They're factual, also. :roll:

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:16 pm
by Monker
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.


Because "they" are even dumber and more brainwashed than Christians.

Condescending, or brilliant? Hmm........


I would say Condescending. Again, its one thing for Maher to poke fun at Christians and quite another to deal in his typical, smarmy, snarkish way with a bunch of devout Muslims. Dumb Christians? You mean like Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, Issac Newton, Washington, Moody, Torrey, etc, etc?
Someone asked me if I had seen the movie. No. But I have seen Marher to 'his thing' on TV enough to get a pretty clear picture. I doubt Maher would show the same contempt for the the Koran and Mohammad as he does with the Bible and Jesus. And the reason certainly is not because Maher is 'brilliant'. The reason is that if he aimed his utter contempt at the Koran and Mohammad the same way, his life would be in danger. Also, Maher would never even deal with a real theologian. God forbid that he would be shown to be a dolt. And again, the reason he wont deal with Muslims is not because they are 'dumber then Christians'. His problem is lack of guts. There is a better, more descriptive word then guts, but you get the picture.


Actually, your ranting on like this basicaly proves his argument for him.

It is one thing to have religious faith and worship, and make it a serious part of your life. It is quite another to take it to the point wher you wish to amend government to force it to conform to your beliefs, demonize those who do not agree with you, demand you hve the freedom to choose your beliefs but condemn the choices of others when they do not agree with yours.

IMO, if you really had faith in your beliefs, you wouldn't be so angry whith Mahr's opinion.

Re: OT-Religulous

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:36 pm
by shaneslatts
Monker wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
madsplash wrote:Who's seen it? What did you think? I LOVE Bill Maher and I LOVED the movie. There were moments that I fell on the ground laughing. I only hope George Carlin got to see it before he passed. What a legend Carlin was, also.

Opinions?



BIGGEST Bill Maher fan here....but he's been funnier. :?


Even if he has, which I don't think, how funny was it to watch him make those people squirm, struggle and stutter?


I was gonna let this pass, but....
I think that Bill Maher poking fun at Christians is one thing I guess pretty easy. I mean, probably no christian is going to smack him in the face, so they're an 'easy target'. I also realize that today, making fun of the Bible, Christians, etc, is 'hip' or something. Here is what I would like to see the condescending Maher do one day.
Pick on some Muslims the same way. I mean, you know, make some Muslims squirm, mock them,mock the Koran, etc. He wont. I wonder why?...Easy to pick on the easy targets.....when there is a little more 'at stake', Maher and his ilk are as quiet at a Turkey Farm on Thanksgiving afternoon.


Because "they" are even dumber and more brainwashed than Christians.

Condescending, or brilliant? Hmm........


I would say Condescending. Again, its one thing for Maher to poke fun at Christians and quite another to deal in his typical, smarmy, snarkish way with a bunch of devout Muslims. Dumb Christians? You mean like Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, Issac Newton, Washington, Moody, Torrey, etc, etc?
Someone asked me if I had seen the movie. No. But I have seen Marher to 'his thing' on TV enough to get a pretty clear picture. I doubt Maher would show the same contempt for the the Koran and Mohammad as he does with the Bible and Jesus. And the reason certainly is not because Maher is 'brilliant'. The reason is that if he aimed his utter contempt at the Koran and Mohammad the same way, his life would be in danger. Also, Maher would never even deal with a real theologian. God forbid that he would be shown to be a dolt. And again, the reason he wont deal with Muslims is not because they are 'dumber then Christians'. His problem is lack of guts. There is a better, more descriptive word then guts, but you get the picture.


Actually, your ranting on like this basicaly proves his argument for him.

It is one thing to have religious faith and worship, and make it a serious part of your life. It is quite another to take it to the point wher you wish to amend government to force it to conform to your beliefs, demonize those who do not agree with you, demand you hve the freedom to choose your beliefs but condemn the choices of others when they do not agree with yours.

IMO, if you really had faith in your beliefs, you wouldn't be so angry whith Mahr's opinion.


Nah, I'm not ranting at all. And I'm not angry either. Where did I say I want to "amend government to conform to my beliefs'? How did you imagine I said such a thing? Where did I 'demonize' Bill Maher? The Bill Mahers of the world are a dime a dozen, and last I checked, the Constitution gives Bill Maher the right to say whatever he pleases to say. I haven't even demanded I have the freedom to say a word. I'm thankful I do, but those freedoms can be taken away. Many countries dont have the type of freedom we have here. Where did say I say he doesn't have the right to free speech? My comment had to do with who Bill Maher targets, and how easy it is to attack a group of people who wont fight back. And obviously 'if' they DID, then they are 'ranting and demonizing Bill Maher, and trying to 'amend the government to silence Bill Maher'. When Bill rants about a religion, hes smart hip and brilliant. When someone points out that he sets up strawmen to mock, and uses a broad brush to do it, that person wants to 'amend govt'...Yeah right...sure

derrr

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:42 pm
by shaneslatts
Madsplash wrote..Watch the movie. He DOES just as you question that he would. Of course religion would put someone's life in danger. Rolling Eyes I'm still waiting for God to come and wipe out the devil. Some say that he's going to. OK. Hurry up! What's the delay?

Just ask the tooth fairy and santa claus. They're factual, also. Rolling Eyes


Know what , compared to you Maher is a genius :D :lol: then again, so is Slip Mahoney

Re: derrr

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:51 pm
by madsplash
shaneslatts wrote:Madsplash wrote..Watch the movie. He DOES just as you question that he would. Of course religion would put someone's life in danger. Rolling Eyes I'm still waiting for God to come and wipe out the devil. Some say that he's going to. OK. Hurry up! What's the delay?

Just ask the tooth fairy and santa claus. They're factual, also. Rolling Eyes


Know what , compared to you Maher is a genius :D :lol: then again, so is Slip Mahoney



I'm just saying that the movie is interesting and makes you think, if you're a rational person. That's all.

Re: derrr

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:59 pm
by shaneslatts
madsplash wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:Madsplash wrote..Watch the movie. He DOES just as you question that he would. Of course religion would put someone's life in danger. Rolling Eyes I'm still waiting for God to come and wipe out the devil. Some say that he's going to. OK. Hurry up! What's the delay?

Just ask the tooth fairy and santa claus. They're factual, also. Rolling Eyes


Know what , compared to you Maher is a genius :D :lol: then again, so is Slip Mahoney



I'm just saying that the movie is interesting and makes you think, if you're a rational person. That's all.


"Peace'

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:18 pm
by Greg
I'm a devout Christian and I'm not ashamed to say so. I believe Jesus Christ died for all of our sins and provided a way of salvation for all of us. I'm not a perfect Christian, but I try my best to live as how Christ would have me to live.

Now, I can't speak for any other faiths that Bill Maher has made fun of, so I'll just speak from my point of view. If Bill Maher wants to make his millions making fun of Christians, let him go ahead and do so. In the end, he's only hurting himself. He's not hurting the Christian population. In fact, we already knew ahead of time that there would be people mocking us, making fun of us, and alienating us from the world. It's not going to stop us from standing up for our beliefs. I just feel sorry for those who feel the need to support such an idiotic display of entertainment. Those people, in my humble opinion, appear to be more easily swayed than those they accuse of being "brain washed". We can be super sensitive to race, nationality, and sexual preference, but religious beliefs are a free for all? It's a glaring hypocrisy of the world that all nonbelievers will argue up and down doesn't exist.

What I've said all along is this: It's easy to be a nonbeliever and live your life without limits, without morals, and without any regards for your fellow man. But, it takes a real man to live for Jesus Christ.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:08 am
by Barb
Whatever you feel about the topic, I personally feel it is rude to mock a person's faith. I'm not a religous person, but I think Bill Maher is hateful creep. He better hope he's right about the non existence of God.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:47 am
by stevew2
Maher wont be laughing in Hell

Re: derrr

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:48 am
by madsplash
shaneslatts wrote:
madsplash wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:Madsplash wrote..Watch the movie. He DOES just as you question that he would. Of course religion would put someone's life in danger. Rolling Eyes I'm still waiting for God to come and wipe out the devil. Some say that he's going to. OK. Hurry up! What's the delay?

Just ask the tooth fairy and santa claus. They're factual, also. Rolling Eyes


Know what , compared to you Maher is a genius :D :lol: then again, so is Slip Mahoney



I'm just saying that the movie is interesting and makes you think, if you're a rational person. That's all.


"Peace'


Absolutely.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:48 am
by madsplash
stevew2 wrote:Maher wont be laughing in Hell


:roll:

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:53 am
by madsplash
Barb wrote:Whatever you feel about the topic, I personally feel it is rude to mock a person's faith. I'm not a religous person, but I think Bill Maher is hateful creep. He better hope he's right about the non existence of God.


That's just it. He wants more info and is asking questions. Maybe you don't like the WAY he's asking them, but that's what he's doing.

I'm not very religous, but I sure can't say that there isn't a God. I have faith in MANY things. We're all different. I just think he's entertaining, that's all. On politics AND religion.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:53 am
by mmberry301
stevew2 wrote:Maher wont be laughing in Hell


Steve I'll back you up on this one. 8)

Yours is a very true statement.....he is a very sad (sometimes funny) little man.
I don't hate the guy....but anyone who cannot see God's hand on this planet and in this vast universe....is simply denying the truth to themselves.

No matter what faith you subscribe to.

He and others like him seriously need to re-examine their lives.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:59 am
by madsplash
mmberry301 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Maher wont be laughing in Hell


Steve I'll back you up on this one. 8)

Yours is a very true statement.....he is a very sad (sometimes funny) little man.
I don't hate the guy....but anyone who cannot see God's hand on this planet and in this vast universe....is simply denying the truth to themselves.

No matter what faith you subscribe to.

He and others like him seriously need to re-examine their lives.



Now see, that is very judgemental and not very tolerant. 2 things that the bible says you shouldn't do. I don't understand that.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:06 am
by Barb
madsplash wrote:
Barb wrote:Whatever you feel about the topic, I personally feel it is rude to mock a person's faith. I'm not a religous person, but I think Bill Maher is hateful creep. He better hope he's right about the non existence of God.


That's just it. He wants more info and is asking questions. Maybe you don't like the WAY he's asking them, but that's what he's doing.

I'm not very religous, but I sure can't say that there isn't a God. I have faith in MANY things. We're all different. I just think he's entertaining, that's all. On politics AND religion.


He's not just asking questions. He makes a lot of really hateful statements about people of faith. He thinks they are imbeciles. That kind of condescending elitist crap is a turn off to me. I am not personally religious but the people I know who are, are the nicest and most generous people I know.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:09 am
by Duncan
Greg wrote:I'm a devout Christian and I'm not ashamed to say so. I believe Jesus Christ died for all of our sins and provided a way of salvation for all of us. I'm not a perfect Christian, but I try my best to live as how Christ would have me to live.

Now, I can't speak for any other faiths that Bill Maher has made fun of, so I'll just speak from my point of view. If Bill Maher wants to make his millions making fun of Christians, let him go ahead and do so. In the end, he's only hurting himself. He's not hurting the Christian population. In fact, we already knew ahead of time that there would be people mocking us, making fun of us, and alienating us from the world. It's not going to stop us from standing up for our beliefs. I just feel sorry for those who feel the need to support such an idiotic display of entertainment. Those people, in my humble opinion, appear to be more easily swayed than those they accuse of being "brain washed". We can be super sensitive to race, nationality, and sexual preference, but religious beliefs are a free for all? It's a glaring hypocrisy of the world that all nonbelievers will argue up and down doesn't exist.

What I've said all along is this: It's easy to be a nonbeliever and live your life without limits, without morals, and without any regards for your fellow man. But, it takes a real man to live for Jesus Christ.


You don't need to be a believer to live a moral life.

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Now playing: David Bowie - Absolute Beginners

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:20 am
by Jana
Greg wrote:I'm a devout Christian and I'm not ashamed to say so. I believe Jesus Christ died for all of our sins and provided a way of salvation for all of us. I'm not a perfect Christian, but I try my best to live as how Christ would have me to live.

Now, I can't speak for any other faiths that Bill Maher has made fun of, so I'll just speak from my point of view. If Bill Maher wants to make his millions making fun of Christians, let him go ahead and do so. In the end, he's only hurting himself. He's not hurting the Christian population. In fact, we already knew ahead of time that there would be people mocking us, making fun of us, and alienating us from the world. It's not going to stop us from standing up for our beliefs. I just feel sorry for those who feel the need to support such an idiotic display of entertainment. Those people, in my humble opinion, appear to be more easily swayed than those they accuse of being "brain washed". We can be super sensitive to race, nationality, and sexual preference, but religious beliefs are a free for all? It's a glaring hypocrisy of the world that all nonbelievers will argue up and down doesn't exist.

What I've said all along is this: It's easy to be a nonbeliever and live your life without limits, without morals, and without any regards for your fellow man. But, it takes a real man to live for Jesus Christ.


Are you saying all nonbelievers live their lives without limits, without morals and without any regards for their fellow man? I know plenty of Christians who go to church, but yet one taught Sunday School and cheated on his wife and was verbally abusive. I can name many more Christians who go to church and don't walk the walk. My brother is not religious. His wife is and their children are raised in the Catholic faith. My brother is the most moral person I know, honest, caring, was a great son, and great asset to the community, tremendous husband and father. Because he doesn't believe in God doesn't make him any less of those things or living his life without morals as your statement implies. My other brother believes in God and Jesus Christ and is an asshole and was a selfish son and father.

I find many Christians to be judgmental. One of my best friends, though, found a new-found faith in God and became very involved in church. not just a Sunday morning attendee. But he embodies what a Christian should be. He was the least judgmental person I know. He came over to visit his mom and wanted to go out with a group of us dancing. One of my friends where I worked was wild and had a mouth on her like you wouldn't believe, F'k this, F'k that. I worried about him and how he was reacting to her. When he was leaving he raved about her and saw the good in her, not the negative. I was stunned, but realized that's really what believing in God should do, make you less judgmental, not more. But, sadly, that's not the case for a lot of "religious" people..

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:28 am
by Duncan
I haven't seen this film, but I would be interested to know if this guy is making fun of religion or just questioning it? If the latter i have no issue with that at all. Religion should be challenged at every opportunity.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:29 am
by Jana
Barb wrote:
madsplash wrote:
Barb wrote:Whatever you feel about the topic, I personally feel it is rude to mock a person's faith. I'm not a religous person, but I think Bill Maher is hateful creep. He better hope he's right about the non existence of God.


That's just it. He wants more info and is asking questions. Maybe you don't like the WAY he's asking them, but that's what he's doing.

I'm not very religous, but I sure can't say that there isn't a God. I have faith in MANY things. We're all different. I just think he's entertaining, that's all. On politics AND religion.


He's not just asking questions. He makes a lot of really hateful statements about people of faith. He thinks they are imbeciles. That kind of condescending elitist crap is a turn off to me. I am not personally religious but the people I know who are, are the nicest and most generous people I know.


True. My relatives in south Georgia on my mother's side (She had nine brothers and sisters, so I had many cousins) are very religious, and they are all kind and generous. Small southern towns rock for hospitality.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:29 am
by madsplash
Duncan wrote:I haven't seen this film, but I would be interested to know if this guy is making fun of religion or just questioning it? If the latter i have no issue with that at all. Religion should be challenged at every opportunity.

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He does both.

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:44 am
by mmberry301
madsplash wrote:
mmberry301 wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Maher wont be laughing in Hell


Steve I'll back you up on this one. 8)

Yours is a very true statement.....he is a very sad (sometimes funny) little man.
I don't hate the guy....but anyone who cannot see God's hand on this planet and in this vast universe....is simply denying the truth to themselves.

No matter what faith you subscribe to.

He and others like him seriously need to re-examine their lives.



Now see, that is very judgemental and not very tolerant. 2 things that the bible says you shouldn't do. I don't understand that.


Splash I like most of your posts and don't mind it when you cause' a little stir on the board (it's usualy entertaining) :)

Simply I can only say this .... I will not be the one making the final decision on him and others like him. I'm merely stating my own personal beliefs (which I am entitled to..as well as yourself) and opinion. The bible is quite clear on this particular subject.

Without going into a serious discussion on faith..this board is not the place for that.

My friend you'll just not have to understand .... peace be with you and Bill.