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The most anticipated moment of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony came when former Journey vocalist Steve Perry appeared alongside his ex-bandmates for the first time since a 2005 Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony.

Although he didn't sing with them (and hasn't since a one-off event in 1991), Perry did stand with them at the podium to deliver an induction speech. If this moment didn't lead to an actual reunion performance, it's hard to imagine that anything will. But even without Perry, Journey is still able to pack arenas all over the world, largely due to their current singer, Arnel Pineda. Read the band's speech below, including Steve Perry's warm words for replacement vocalist Pineda.

Neal Schon: Everyone did such a good job. Incredible work. So proud of you. This is all about you, fans. ... I love all you guys. Steve Perry [Applause] Thank you for reviving my art, for finding me.

Wow, what a terrific, long ride it's been. It's been a beautiful one. I want to thank my beautiful wife, Michaele. ... I just, I feel great. It's been seven years. She's been out on tour with me the whole time. No records. ... I love you. I love my children, Miles! He's here. An aspiring young guitar player. I love you, Miles. Sarah, Sophie and Aja. Thank you so much! Dunbar! Thank you, you guys.

Aynsley Dunbar: Good evening. Well, I hope I can be sort of funny as Chris Wyatt, but I don't think so. This is going to be straightforward. This is an awesome honor to be here with my own bandmates, Journey. I would like to thank my family, my friends, my managers, my ex-wives ... And of course, a big thank you to all our fans for your support throughout the years. A very humble thank you.

Gregg Rolie: What a great night this is for waiting. This is my second trip here. And what a trip this has been. First Santana, Journey, Ringo Starr and back here with Journey. I want to thank Herbie Herbert, my manager and longtime friend through Journey. And Neal Schon, for calling me while I was up in Seattle and saving me from the restaurant business. Don't ever do it. Just start Journey. And you know, it's been an incredible trip for my life. I want to thank the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for inducting this band kindly. But also, for me, this is really about the fans. All of you. Without music fans, this place is empty. There's nobody here! This is really, for me, this is really about all you guys, especially Journey fans for me. This is your award, but it will be proudly displayed in my home in Austin, Texas.

Steve Smith: As the diversity of the class of 2017 clearly illustrates, I've started out in 1963 at nine years old as a jazz drummer. I thank my parents for ... supporting my musical passion. Back then, my favorite bands were the Count Basie Big Band, and it wasn't until 1969 that I discovered rock & roll with my friend, [who] showed me his brother Dave's record collection. He played me Jimi Hendrix, Queen and Led Zeppelin. What I heard was Mitch Mitchell, Ginger Baker and John Bonham. I could relate to rock drumming and rock music. As disc jockey Alan Freed, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee once said, "Rock & roll is really swing with a modern aim. It began in the levies and in the plantations, and featured blues and rhythm." He said this in the 1950s.

Now that we live in a global community, more influences have been added to and will be added to the definition of what is rock & roll. For me, one of the most explosive ships in musical production came in 1971 with the Mahavishnu Orchestra. Billy Cobham, Jerry Goodman, and Rick Laird ... In many ways, that punk rock, jazz music, drumming concert was my template for my work with Journey. I'm grateful for my touring with Ronnie Montrose, where we were the support act of Journey in '78 and talent scout Neal Schon noticed what I was bringing to rock & roll. Later that year, Neil, Steve Perry, Gregg Rolie, Ross Valory and Herbie Herbert invited me to become a Journey band member, and it's been an educational award in the process.

Thanks to my children, Ian and Elizabeth for keeping me in their hearts while I was away on long tours. And very special thanks to my wife, Diane. We've been sharing our lives for the last 24 years. I love you. Thanks to Jonathan Green for the gift of songwriting and for keeping the legacy sound of Journey rock alive. And most important thanks to our fans from around the world that kept Journey in their hearts and on their stereos.

Ross Valory: One thing that you may not know is that this microphone is robotic. It's supposed to come up and meet me where I am. Hello, microphone! Don't make me come down there! Well, I know you're really helpful, but you're really not because there's a big red clock that says I have three minutes, right? But then it says I only have 37 seconds. I also must say that Steve Smith did very well with his prepared speech. He worked the Teleprompter very well. I'm not going to even bother. I didn't like mine. But I'll start from the top and say that there's a few things that were said earlier that I will repeat because their names deserve to be repeated. My life has been full of music from the very beginning. From the time I could hear. From the time they swabbed my ears out in the maternity ward, there was music everywhere. A large family, two talented parents who shared music with us, we learned from piano, ukulele, guitar. We all sang. As soon as I could, I was in a church choir, the school choir.

As soon as it was allowed, I could play an instrumental in symphonic band and so that continued all the way through high school. The family had a great variety of music to hear and be exposed to – anywhere from Miles Davis to Mozart, from Handel to Fats Domino, from Glenn Miller to Dave Brubeck.

So somewhere in there, I thought, "That's where my world was," until a new kid came into town when I was a sophomore in high school. He goes, "Hey, I know who you are. I know you play in the symphonic band, whatever you play, guitar at home. And we need a bass player. I'm starting to deal with a bunch of your friends, and since you're a guitarist, you can learn these parts very easily. Why don't you get your mom to go down to the local music store, grab a bass, get an amplifier, we'll make some change and have some fun?" I said, "OK."

So, from that point, the life of music for me changed entirely, and here we are tonight. If that's one booking, this could be the other one. If nothing else happens for me in music, this could be the best that it gets. There are many other people who I believe deserve this, and I'll start by talking about someone I met in high school within one year of starting rock & roll. His name is Herbie Herbert. He is our former creator/partner/manager. And within five years of meeting him, we had created the beginnings of Journey with Gregg Rolie and Neal Schon. And we all know, or maybe need to know, that he put the blood, sweat and tears and all his energy into seeing this band succeed, and we are here to thank Herbie Herbert for that.

But that, you know, we're still here! What is happening? How have we continued? For the last 20 years, our current manager, John Baruck, and took a band out of exile and put them back on the map. We have him to thank. And then there's all the fans, the hundreds of thousands of fans that have supported us for years. Thank you for this. All of you who have founded us, encouraged us, pushed us. They, our friends, deserve a piece of this award. And last but not least, out family members who maybe have suffered in our absence and given us hope, given us encouragement. Our family members. Yes. Our parents. My parents. And last but not least, the family who, and the love of my wife, Mary, who has understood and accepted this guy who goes away with the circus every year. Thank you so much.

Jonathan Cain: I just want to thank the Cubs for winning the World Series! I'd like begin by thanking my father and mother for believing in me. ... from the time that I was eight years old and after, he later said to me, "Son, don't stop believing." On a life-changing phone call, as I started with my career back in the Seventies. He's gone now. I miss you, dad and love you. Thanks to ... Ralph Dodds, from the conservatory of Chicago, Jerry Milo ... and to the late Buddy Killen, who gave me my first break in Nashville in 1969.

To my brother Tom who played drums with me in countless bands while we learned lessons together in rock & roll. To my brother Hal who always believed in my music. To the late Wolfman Jack and Don Kelly organization for opening doors and getting us started on the right path. To all the members of the Babies. To my brothers in Journey, for believing and trusting I could be part of it, or shifting and sustaining signature sound. To former band mates Steve Augeri and Deen Castronovo. To our music business family behind the scenes who work tirelessly, the record promotion people ... The DJs who gave us millions of spins. To the record distributors, who made sure our music made it to stores and on the shelves.

To Live Nation and the local promoters and most of all, our faithful fans who stood by us through the years. During the ups and downs. To our wise managers, Herbie Herbert and John Baruck, for keeping us on track during the tough times. We shared over 40 years having blessed relationships with all of you. And I believe relationships are the key to building a ramp and maintaining a presence in our music business. Thanks to the members of the Hall who voted to honor us tonight. Finally, I thank my three children, Madison, Weston and Liza for their understanding and accepting their dad had to hit the road all those years. And to my wife, Paula, who stands beside me with love and respect. I love you all. And thanks to you, Lord, for keeping your guiding hand on us all those years. This honor was truly worth the wait. God bless.

Steve Perry: Hello, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! You sure look good to me tonight ... I'm going to keep my cheat sheet because I've got a lot to say. I'm going to start with, when I was living in Los Angeles, I was looking to get a record deal, trying my very best. It was tough to get signed at those times. And I would always go to see Journey perform cause these guys have the most amazing musical ability. I've never seen a band like that in my life. So every time they'd go [perform], I had to go watch with amazement. Though their musicianship was absolutely par to none, there was one instrument that was flying about the entire city of Los Angeles. That was the magic fingers of Neal Schon's guitar! Somehow, one of my piano tapes fell into the hands of Herbie Herbert. I would not be here tonight if it were not for Herbie Herbert. Because he did not have to call. He gets tapes all the time. But there's something about the demo tape, and he called me. And the next thing I knew, because of Herbie, I was writing music for Neal Schon. And the very first song we wrote together was "Patiently," you remember that? So, I absolutely must tell you, I must thank Herbie Herbert for believing in me. Thank you.

Aynsley Dunbar, Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, Ross Valory. Are you fucking shitting me? Any singer would give his ass for that shit. ... So, I want to thank them for all the music we've written. Thank you, Gregg for letting me into your house to write that Infinity record. For letting me into your house, Schon. Thank you so much, Jon, for all the songs that we all write together. Steve Smith for the raging drums. Alright, guys, thank you so much for all the music we've written and recorded together. Forever and ever.

I must give a complete shoutout to someone who sings his heart out every night, and it's Arnel Pineda. Where are you, Arnel? Arnel, I love you. Hi, Arnel! Thank you! I'd like to thank my longtime attorney, Lee Philips. I also would like to thank my old, high school R&B band. It's kind of where it all started for me. I would like to thank them. Thanks to Rob and the team at Columbia Records. The Journey road crew for the original Journey road crew. You busted your ass every night, every day. Load in, load out. Tirelessly. Day after day. Week after week. Year after year. Herbie knows that's true. We would not be here today if it wasn't for them, too. And also... I want to say my condolences to the families – I'd like to say my condolences to the families of the members... Herbie and Tim McClain got together and said you're going to be on fan club, this is going to be great. That's what happened. Tim McClain [and others] made it all happen for us.

Now, speaking of fans [applause], speaking of fans! You're the ones who put us here! You're the one who put us here! You are the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! You put us here! We would not be here had it not been for you and the tireless love and consistent devotion. We never would've stopped. And from my heart, I must tell you, I've been gone a long time, I understand that. But I want you to know, you've never not been in my heart. I want you to know that. And I love every single one of you. Thank you so very much!
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:25 pm

Pretty much everybody gave Herbie his due. That was nice.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby bellairepark73 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:34 pm

THANKS for posting but...Steve Perry's speech was WAAAY longer than that. He gave the second longest speech. Smitty's was I think the longest by a hair.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby MotherCitay » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:47 pm

bellairepark73 wrote:THANKS for posting but...Steve Perry's speech was WAAAY longer than that. He gave the second longest speech. Smitty's was I think the longest by a hair.


Thanks, fixed it :lol:
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby DracIsBack » Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:10 am

Thanks for sharing this. I'm still touched by the speeches.

It was basically the opposite of the trainwreck that was Chicago's induction last year. Former members and managers were thanked, people on stage complimented each other, people were made to feel welcome, people weren't asked to 'sit out' so certain members could play, no one was insulting ex wives, no one was rubbing hands together with Glee about the promotional opportunities to be had, no one was talking about how it was going to be this band performing and "not one that doesn't exist anymore", no one was slagging anyone else's songwriting.

Just a celebration of Journey's music made.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby Art Vandelay » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:32 am

Thanks for the transcript....lots of work put into that!

I'm pretty sure that Aynsley said 'my old bandmates', and not 'my own bandmates'.

I'm positive that Smith said Cream and not Queen. Otherwise the Ginger Baker reference wouldn't make sense.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby Lora » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:02 am

Right after Rolling Stone posted the transcriptions of the speeches, we noticed they had a few mistakes in Steve's speech. We sent them the correct transcription and they have since updated their page with the right text. I'm not sure about errors in the other members' speeches but I know the SP one is correct now: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... es-w475818


Steve Perry: Hello, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! You sure look good to me tonight. I'm going to keep my cheat sheet here because I've got a lot to say. I'm going to start with, when I was living in Los Angeles, I was looking to get a record deal, trying my very best. It was tough to get signed at those times. And I would always go to the Starwood to see Journey perform cause these guys have the most amazing musical ability. I've never seen a band like that in my life. So every time they'd go to the Starwood Club, I had to go watch with amazement. Though their musicianship was absolutely par to none, there was one instrument that was flying about the entire city of Los Angeles. That was the magic fingers of Neal Schon's guitar! Somehow, one of my demo tapes fell into the hands of Herbie Herbert. I would not be here tonight if it was not for Herbie Herbert. Because he did not have to call me. He gets tapes all the time. But there's something about the demo tape, and he called me. And the next thing I knew, because of Herbie, I was writing music with Neal Schon. And the very first song we ever wrote together was "Patiently," you remember that? So, I absolutely must tell you, I must thank Herbie Herbert for believing in me. Thank you.

Aynsley Dunbar, Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, Ross Valory. Are you fucking shitting me? Any singer would give his ass for that shit. They played so well. So, I want to thank them for all the music we've written. Thank you, Gregg for letting me live at your house to write the Infinity record. Thank you for letting me live at your house, Neal Schon. Thank you so much, Jon, for all the songs that we all have written together. Steve Smith's amazing drums. Basso profundo, Ross Valory. Alright, guys, I thank you so much for all the music we've written and recorded together. It will be forever in my heart.

I must give a complete shout out to someone who sings his heart out every night, and it's Arnel Pineda. Where are you, Arnel? Where are you?He must be backstage. To Arnel, I love you. Woooo! Hi Arnel! Thank you. I'd like to thank my longtime attorney, Lee Philips. I also would like to thank my old, high school R&B band. It was called The Sullies and it's kind of where it all started for me. I would like to thank them. Thanks to Rob Stringer and the team at Columbia Records.

The Journey road crew. The original Journey road crew. Who busted their ass every night, every day. Load in, load out. Tirelessly. Day after day. Week after week. Year after year. Herbie knows that's true. We would not be here today if it wasn't for them, too. And also, I would like to send my condolences to the families of the members of Jim McCandless, Jackie Villanueva and recently, the great Benny Collins. Lastly, Fan Asylum was Journey's first fan club. Herbie and Tim McQuaid got together and said, "You're going to be our fan club; this is going to be great." That's what happened. Tim McQuaid, Lora Beard and Cyndy Poon made it all happen for us. So the fan club - Fan Asylum, was brilliant. I want to thank them.

Now, speaking of fans [applause], speaking of fans! You're the ones who put us here! You are the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! You put us here! We would not be here had it not been for you and your tireless love and consistent devotion. You never have stopped. And from my heart, I must tell you, I have been gone a long time, I understand that. But I want you to know, you've never not been in my heart. I want you to know that. And I love each and everyone of you. Thank you so very much!
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby Art Vandelay » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:03 am

Thanks, Laura. Rolling Stone also corrected Smith's Cream/Queen comment as well.
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Postby Lora » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:42 am

Art Vandelay wrote:Thanks, Laura. Rolling Stone also corrected Smith's Cream/Queen comment as well.


They said that the audio file they were using to transcribe was difficult to hear so they couldn't make out some things. Makes sense. There was a lot of screaming going on when Journey was up there. :)
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby Art Vandelay » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:19 am

Lora wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:Thanks, Laura. Rolling Stone also corrected Smith's Cream/Queen comment as well.


They said that the audio file they were using to transcribe was difficult to hear so they couldn't make out some things. Makes sense. There was a lot of screaming going on when Journey was up there. :)

Oh crap, and I misspelled your name in a thread about typos! Sorry, Lora!!!
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Postby Lora » Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:34 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
Lora wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:Thanks, Laura. Rolling Stone also corrected Smith's Cream/Queen comment as well.


They said that the audio file they were using to transcribe was difficult to hear so they couldn't make out some things. Makes sense. There was a lot of screaming going on when Journey was up there. :)

Oh crap, and I misspelled your name in a thread about typos! Sorry, Lora!!!


Hee. Happens so often I don't even notice it anymore. :D
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby JourneyHard » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:07 am

If Steve Perry, Gregg Rolie, and Aynsley Dunbar formed a band, it would be interesting.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby tj » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:04 am

Glad to see Jon thank SA and Deen. Those guys worked their butts off to help pull this band out of a huge hole to help get it where it is again today.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby scarab » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:15 am

The biggest oversight of all the speeches was not to give props to Andy Avery. :lol: :roll:
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Postby tj » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:25 am

I haven't seen all the videos. Was the Travis guy performing with them?
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby steveo777 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:28 pm

tj wrote:I haven't seen all the videos. Was the Travis guy performing with them?


I hope not, FFS! He's done nothing to earn any spot in that ceremony. No offense. Just a hired hand, not a past or present member.
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Postby annpea » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:03 pm

scarab wrote:The biggest oversight of all the speeches was not to give props to Andy Avery. :lol: :roll:
OMG! poor Andy. I hope he will be able to live with it. I would hate to see a promising career, like his, fall to the wayside over something like this. :lol:
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby JeremyP » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:49 am

I had no idea they had been inducted into the rock hall until two minutes ago. Wow.

After so long, it's surreal that it's actually happened. It's wonderful to see Perry and the other former members there after many years of ambivalence towards getting together.

I do feel a huge cloud was cast over the event with the absence of Steve A and Deen. There would be no modern day Journey without them. They belonged there. To hear Perry praise Arnel and not Augeri or even JSS really stung.

Good for the members that got an award, I guess. I'm left feeling disappointed/pissed. Rant over.

It's good to see some familiar screen names here. :)
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby Greg » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:07 am

JourneyHard wrote:If Steve Perry, Gregg Rolie, and Aynsley Dunbar formed a band, it would be interesting.


I'd go for that. In fact, I'd love any sort of "side project" with Perry and the other guys (past and present) from Journey. I wouldn't even care if they toured behind the project, so as long as there was new music.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby Memorex » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:52 am

JeremyP wrote:I had no idea they had been inducted into the rock hall until two minutes ago. Wow.

After so long, it's surreal that it's actually happened. It's wonderful to see Perry and the other former members there after many years of ambivalence towards getting together.

I do feel a huge cloud was cast over the event with the absence of Steve A and Deen. There would be no modern day Journey without them. They belonged there. To hear Perry praise Arnel and not Augeri or even JSS really stung.

Good for the members that got an award, I guess. I'm left feeling disappointed/pissed. Rant over.

It's good to see some familiar screen names here. :)


We've been over this here quite a bit. Augeri, Arnel, and Deen have done nothing to shape music in the way the Hall is looking for. They have helped Journey and really only Journey. That does not qualify anyone for anything. They were not present at the time Journey was affecting the music industry and that's what the award was for. In my opinion, they got the right guys up there.

As for Steve's shout out to Arnel, he's the guy there now. I am sure if Deen or Augeri were there, he'd have mentioned them. Hell, most of the members that toured and recorded with them didn't mention them. How Steve Perry not giving a shout out to past members he's never even met is a burn I don't get.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby JeremyP » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:10 am

Memorex wrote:
JeremyP wrote:I had no idea they had been inducted into the rock hall until two minutes ago. Wow.

After so long, it's surreal that it's actually happened. It's wonderful to see Perry and the other former members there after many years of ambivalence towards getting together.

I do feel a huge cloud was cast over the event with the absence of Steve A and Deen. There would be no modern day Journey without them. They belonged there. To hear Perry praise Arnel and not Augeri or even JSS really stung.

Good for the members that got an award, I guess. I'm left feeling disappointed/pissed. Rant over.

It's good to see some familiar screen names here. :)


We've been over this here quite a bit. Augeri, Arnel, and Deen have done nothing to shape music in the way the Hall is looking for. They have helped Journey and really only Journey. That does not qualify anyone for anything. They were not present at the time Journey was affecting the music industry and that's what the award was for. In my opinion, they got the right guys up there.

As for Steve's shout out to Arnel, he's the guy there now. I am sure if Deen or Augeri were there, he'd have mentioned them. Hell, most of the members that toured and recorded with them didn't mention them. How Steve Perry not giving a shout out to past members he's never even met is a burn I don't get.

Perry met Augeri and Deen at the 2005 HOF event.

Regarding what the HOF finds relevant, Aynsley has been on only one Perry-era album. Augeri and Deen have been on exactly as much Journey studio output as Aynsley. (Four albums counting the Armageddon soundtrack)

I'll also remind people of the 2001 live dvd being a top cdnow best seller and "With Your Love" from Arrival doing well on the Adult Contemporary charts.

Haha, I drifted away from current Journey goings on for a few years after Eclipse and forgot how much I enjoyed debates like this.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby Memorex » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:33 am

JeremyP wrote:
Memorex wrote:
JeremyP wrote:I had no idea they had been inducted into the rock hall until two minutes ago. Wow.

After so long, it's surreal that it's actually happened. It's wonderful to see Perry and the other former members there after many years of ambivalence towards getting together.

I do feel a huge cloud was cast over the event with the absence of Steve A and Deen. There would be no modern day Journey without them. They belonged there. To hear Perry praise Arnel and not Augeri or even JSS really stung.

Good for the members that got an award, I guess. I'm left feeling disappointed/pissed. Rant over.

It's good to see some familiar screen names here. :)


We've been over this here quite a bit. Augeri, Arnel, and Deen have done nothing to shape music in the way the Hall is looking for. They have helped Journey and really only Journey. That does not qualify anyone for anything. They were not present at the time Journey was affecting the music industry and that's what the award was for. In my opinion, they got the right guys up there.

As for Steve's shout out to Arnel, he's the guy there now. I am sure if Deen or Augeri were there, he'd have mentioned them. Hell, most of the members that toured and recorded with them didn't mention them. How Steve Perry not giving a shout out to past members he's never even met is a burn I don't get.

Perry met Augeri and Deen at the 2005 HOF event.

Regarding what the HOF finds relevant, Aynsley has been on only one Perry-era album. Augeri and Deen have been on exactly as much Journey studio output as Aynsley. (Four albums counting the Armageddon soundtrack)

I'll also remind people of the 2001 live dvd being a top cdnow best seller and "With Your Love" from Arrival doing well on the Adult Contemporary charts.

Haha, I drifted away from current Journey goings on for a few years after Eclipse and forgot how much I enjoyed debates like this.


Let's not get hung up on technicalities. Ansley was an original member and that does carry weight, but he was also on one of the albums that the hall is likely considering influential. I don't think anyone would mistake the influence of Lights, Wheel in the Sky, etc. with some song called With Your Love that no one remembers. If Journey has sold 100 million records worldwide, how many of those do you think are post-Perry? Even smaller percentage if you exclude the one packaged with the Greatest Hits re-records.

Think about the criteria that a hall of fame type outfit would require for their members (and try to pretend the hall takes it seriously). Nothing Journey has done post-Perry fits in to that. I'm talking about what they have done for music or the industry. This isn't Van Halen with Hagar.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby MysteryMountain » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:12 pm

JourneyHard wrote:If Steve Perry, Gregg Rolie, and Aynsley Dunbar formed a band, it would be interesting.


They did, it was called Infinity

Now, if Greg, Aynsley, Neal, & Ross formed a band, that would be interesting. :?
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby perryfan61 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:08 am

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JeremyP wrote:I had no idea they had been inducted into the rock hall until two minutes ago. Wow.

After so long, it's surreal that it's actually happened. It's wonderful to see Perry and the other former members there after many years of ambivalence towards getting together.

I do feel a huge cloud was cast over the event with the absence of Steve A and Deen. There would be no modern day Journey without them. They belonged there. To hear Perry praise Arnel and not Augeri or even JSS really stung.

Good for the members that got an award, I guess. I'm left feeling disappointed/pissed. Rant over.

It's good to see some familiar screen names here. :)


We've been over this here quite a bit. Augeri, Arnel, and Deen have done nothing to shape music in the way the Hall is looking for. They have helped Journey and really only Journey. That does not qualify anyone for anything. They were not present at the time Journey was affecting the music industry and that's what the award was for. In my opinion, they got the right guys up there.

As for Steve's shout out to Arnel, he's the guy there now. I am sure if Deen or Augeri were there, he'd have mentioned them. Hell, most of the members that toured and recorded with them didn't mention them. How Steve Perry not giving a shout out to past members he's never even met is a burn I don't get.



I totally agree. He's probably never met them, or heard them singing his songs, so I feel there was no insult intended by SP not mentioning them. At least Jon did, which is only right, as he worked with them both.
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Re: Full Speech Journey HOF 2017

Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:35 pm

Rock Hall CEO sings praises of 2017 honorees in light of tonig

22.04.2017
http://normangeestar.net/2017/04/22/roc ... -of-tonig/

In the end, the night belonged to Pearl Jam.

“I can’t begin to tell you what an honor and privilege it is for me to be out of the house”, he deadpanned after a almost minute-long ovation from the audience at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

For almost four decades, Arnel Pineda has always wanted to meet Journey’s original frontman Steve Perry.

“It was our job, literally our job for us to come up with things to offer their fans”, said Schultz.

In the induction speech honoring Yes, Rush singer Geddy Lee said that seeing the band perform live in 1972, “changed the way I played and listened to music forever”.

Dogg, a former label mate and friend of Shakur, says he was at Friday night’s ceremony at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn to make sure the rapper, actor and poet is remembered as a “strong black man that stood for his”.

Perhaps the most anticipated speech of the night was David Letterman’s induction of Pearl Jam.

“Tupac’s a part of history for a reason – because he made history, ” said Snoop when he collected the award.

He added, “Steve Perry, you’re a one of a kind!” “They reminded me of the “Star Wars” cantina band only with lots more hair”, Harrison recalled.

Electric Light Orchestra honored Berry, who died last month, with an electrifying performance of “Roll Over Beethoven” at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn on Friday. Though Perry did not perform with songs “Lights“, “Separate Ways“, and “Don’t Stop Believin’” with current band members Neal Schon, Aynsley Dunbar, Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, Ross Valory, and Jonathan Cain, the entire group shared nothing but smiles and hugs onstage. You’re the rock and roll hall of fame! from my heart, I must tell you, I’ve been gone a long time, you’ve never not been in my heart. Explaining why Rodgers deserves to be celebrated as an individual artist, Harris stated, “if you look at the people that he’s worked with over the decades, it’s pretty remarkable – as a producer, as a guitar player”. And were confused as well: why wouldn’t he want to perform those songs, one more time.
Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com
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