Good oneebake02 wrote:I agree with Neal's beef completely but I think he should really keep his mouth shut. After all, he ran off with a married White House crasher/reality tv star then married her on pay-per-view. I don't recall seeing Jon and Paula going to town in the Resonate video either.
Art Vandelay wrote:This might be a silly question, but I'm asking because I was a casual fan during their 78-83 heyday, and didn't become a hardcore fan until their Greatest Hits album came out in '88.
Was it ever implied back then that Journey was Neal's band? Would any of the casual fans, prior to the internet and social media, even think this? I always knew that the band was started with Neal, but was it ever really marketed as his band? From all of the band history that I've read and research that I've done for the 78-83 time period, it always appeared to me that they were a collective unit, regardless of who was in the band at any particular time during that phase.
Memorex wrote:It's probably like every other male flight in history. At the root is probably the two wives.
I don't mean that to be sexist, but both seem like they could dislike each other.
tater1977 wrote:Journey’s Jonathan Cain makes journey of faith and music — faithfully
By Jeff Clark
jclark@sunherald.com
http://www.sunherald.com/entertainment/ ... 49309.html
You released your first album of Christian music last year. Is that something you hope to do again?
I have a Christmas album that I just completed ...
I love Christmas and I always wanted to make a Christmas album. God has ended up being the best co-writer I’ve ever had. I get these lyrics and I just go to town with them. I was in Vegas for three weeks and I wrote two new songs.
My second album is coming out in the spring. That’s how productive I’ve been...
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Well someone was writing new songs in Las Vegas, unfortunately not for Journey.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:tater1977 wrote:Journey’s Jonathan Cain makes journey of faith and music — faithfully
By Jeff Clark
jclark@sunherald.com
http://www.sunherald.com/entertainment/ ... 49309.html
You released your first album of Christian music last year. Is that something you hope to do again?
I have a Christmas album that I just completed ...
I love Christmas and I always wanted to make a Christmas album. God has ended up being the best co-writer I’ve ever had. I get these lyrics and I just go to town with them. I was in Vegas for three weeks and I wrote two new songs.
My second album is coming out in the spring. That’s how productive I’ve been...
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Well someone was writing new songs in Las Vegas, unfortunately not for Journey.
I remember at one point he was talking about doing a country album. He is pretty much just a musical grifter. At this point, he's got to go. He is riding the journey coattails.
Hollywood wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:tater1977 wrote:Journey’s Jonathan Cain makes journey of faith and music — faithfully
By Jeff Clark
jclark@sunherald.com
http://www.sunherald.com/entertainment/ ... 49309.html
You released your first album of Christian music last year. Is that something you hope to do again?
I have a Christmas album that I just completed ...
I love Christmas and I always wanted to make a Christmas album. God has ended up being the best co-writer I’ve ever had. I get these lyrics and I just go to town with them. I was in Vegas for three weeks and I wrote two new songs.
My second album is coming out in the spring. That’s how productive I’ve been...
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Well someone was writing new songs in Las Vegas, unfortunately not for Journey.
I remember at one point he was talking about doing a country album. He is pretty much just a musical grifter. At this point, he's got to go. He is riding the journey coattails.
The band just needs a break. Don't make any decisions until cooler heads prevail. I don't see a scenario where any of this helps Journey in the long run. Schon has done a ton of side projects. Far more than Jon. Jon has never publicly complained when Neal pulled his PR crap or put his new GF in a video. This should have and could have all been handled in-house. I don't see any outside options to fix the band. Rolie is most likely not into touring full scale anymore and how would he incorporate the Escape, Frontiers, and RoR material. All post Perry material would disappear. Steve Smith may be moving on soon, although he seems to be having fun. This shit can't help. Ross and Arnel have to choose sides and have no good options.
Jon is right that from a business standpoint the time, money and effort to record a new record makes no business sense for Journey. Jon has all the business people and managers on his side.
Neal is right when he says that creating new music is vital to a bands growth and vitality. Even if you take chances and launch a dud. (I loved Eclipse, many didn't) Neal has the fans on his side.
tater1977 wrote:Will Neal Schon Shut JOURNEY Down?
posted by Bodhi
http://wbig.iheart.com/onair/bodhi-5511 ... -15897518/
Journey guitarist Neal Schon is threatening to pull the plug on the band if he and keyboardist Jonathan Cain can't get on the same page.
Schon, who objects to Cain sharing his religious and political opinions in concert, tweets, "If we can't agree I'll shut it down and go to court over our name. As I said before I'll protect it forever..."
Schon's tweet barrage also includes:
•"Jonathan apparently is telling people that we are not getting along because of creative differences. Not so. We haven't been creative."
•"Jonathan likes to say [our last album] Eclipse was not successful because it was not Journey friendly. It's my fault. Yes I wanted to rock but Jonathan wrote more than I did."
•"I've worked my ass off. I attribute our current success to great decisions on my part and great songs we wrote."
•"It's supposed to be an uplifting non-controlling atmosphere where people can feel one with the music. Not a scam... There's no way you win... everyone has different beliefs. It's not right. They come to be entertained, not brain washed."
•"I do not want Journey used in any way to promote evangelical beliefs. 'We are One Nation under God.' I believe this not only for Journey but ALL concerts. Music is the ONLY universal language that brings us together - eliminating hate - Pure."
•"Leave Journey music sacred. I don't care who wrote what. Its all Journey music."
•"I don't believe in holding onto crap... brush it off and move on. Life is precious and short."
nylady wrote:This whole thing should never have been aired out on social media. Talk it out (or yell it out) in private. It's not like they don't see each other. The band is on tour, there must be rehearsals and sound checks. It has to be making things uncomfortable for the rest of the band and the road crew. And having fans chime in on what should be private band business is just poor taste and horrible public relations.
Next they will be seating fans like they are at a wedding, Schon fans on this side, Cain fans on that side.
Journey/Survivor wrote:Next they will be seating fans like they are at a wedding, Schon fans on this side, Cain fans on that side.
George_g888 wrote:tater1977 wrote:Will Neal Schon Shut JOURNEY Down?
posted by Bodhi
http://wbig.iheart.com/onair/bodhi-5511 ... -15897518/
Journey guitarist Neal Schon is threatening to pull the plug on the band if he and keyboardist Jonathan Cain can't get on the same page.
Schon, who objects to Cain sharing his religious and political opinions in concert, tweets, "If we can't agree I'll shut it down and go to court over our name. As I said before I'll protect it forever..."
Schon's tweet barrage also includes:
•"Jonathan apparently is telling people that we are not getting along because of creative differences. Not so. We haven't been creative."
•"Jonathan likes to say [our last album] Eclipse was not successful because it was not Journey friendly. It's my fault. Yes I wanted to rock but Jonathan wrote more than I did."
•"I've worked my ass off. I attribute our current success to great decisions on my part and great songs we wrote."
•"It's supposed to be an uplifting non-controlling atmosphere where people can feel one with the music. Not a scam... There's no way you win... everyone has different beliefs. It's not right. They come to be entertained, not brain washed."
•"I do not want Journey used in any way to promote evangelical beliefs. 'We are One Nation under God.' I believe this not only for Journey but ALL concerts. Music is the ONLY universal language that brings us together - eliminating hate - Pure."
•"Leave Journey music sacred. I don't care who wrote what. Its all Journey music."
•"I don't believe in holding onto crap... brush it off and move on. Life is precious and short."
IDK what he says to his bandmates about religion or politcs offstage/behind closed doors. But one thing is forsure, JC has never used Journey concerts to promote religion or politics.
FamilyMan wrote:George_g888 wrote:tater1977 wrote:Will Neal Schon Shut JOURNEY Down?
posted by Bodhi
http://wbig.iheart.com/onair/bodhi-5511 ... -15897518/
Journey guitarist Neal Schon is threatening to pull the plug on the band if he and keyboardist Jonathan Cain can't get on the same page.
Schon, who objects to Cain sharing his religious and political opinions in concert, tweets, "If we can't agree I'll shut it down and go to court over our name. As I said before I'll protect it forever..."
Schon's tweet barrage also includes:
•"Jonathan apparently is telling people that we are not getting along because of creative differences. Not so. We haven't been creative."
•"Jonathan likes to say [our last album] Eclipse was not successful because it was not Journey friendly. It's my fault. Yes I wanted to rock but Jonathan wrote more than I did."
•"I've worked my ass off. I attribute our current success to great decisions on my part and great songs we wrote."
•"It's supposed to be an uplifting non-controlling atmosphere where people can feel one with the music. Not a scam... There's no way you win... everyone has different beliefs. It's not right. They come to be entertained, not brain washed."
•"I do not want Journey used in any way to promote evangelical beliefs. 'We are One Nation under God.' I believe this not only for Journey but ALL concerts. Music is the ONLY universal language that brings us together - eliminating hate - Pure."
•"Leave Journey music sacred. I don't care who wrote what. Its all Journey music."
•"I don't believe in holding onto crap... brush it off and move on. Life is precious and short."
IDK what he says to his bandmates about religion or politcs offstage/behind closed doors. But one thing is forsure, JC has never used Journey concerts to promote religion or politics.
Do we know this to be fact? I haven't seen them live since last spring, where Cain had no dialogue with the audience. Has something changed lately? Is he espousing religion or politics on stage?
George_g888 wrote:Yes. I saw them this March, and last august. The only time Cain always speaks to the crowd is before Faithfully, telling the same story on how he wrote it on a bus ride in 1982 to new york and after he dedicates the song to the armed forces. No politics or religion involved. Im confident that any one who went to a show after the most recent one I attended will say the same thing.
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