SF-Dano wrote:From Schon's Facebook
Neal Schon
34 mins ·
http://thehill.com/…/344122-journey-member-spotted-in-white…#
Wow this is not the Journey I started in 1972 and have been fighting to protect since the beginning.
I've discussed this many times with Management and council and they both agreed that there should never be anything to do with religious beliefs or politics with Journey.
I do not want anyone to think my wife and I are affiliated in anyway with this at all. I've been fighting to protect for the last 2 years.
This is Not Me or my wife.
Neal Schon
SF-Dano wrote:From Schon's Facebook
Neal Schon
34 mins ·
http://thehill.com/…/344122-journey-member-spotted-in-white…#
Wow this is not the Journey I started in 1972 and have been fighting to protect since the beginning.
I've discussed this many times with Management and council and they both agreed that there should never be anything to do with religious beliefs or politics with Journey.
I do not want anyone to think my wife and I are affiliated in anyway with this at all. I've been fighting to protect for the last 2 years.
This is Not Me or my wife.
Neal Schon
tater1977 wrote:SF-Dano wrote:From Schon's Facebook
Neal Schon
34 mins ·
http://thehill.com/…/344122-journey-member-spotted-in-white…#
Wow this is not the Journey I started in 1972 and have been fighting to protect since the beginning.
I've discussed this many times with Management and council and they both agreed that there should never be anything to do with religious beliefs or politics with Journey.
I do not want anyone to think my wife and I are affiliated in anyway with this at all. I've been fighting to protect for the last 2 years.
This is Not Me or my wife.
Neal Schon
NEAL SCHON MUSIC@NealSchonMusic · 10m10 minutes ago
only 2 more shows D.C. And NYC. Then I will fix this all.
Memorex wrote:Reading more of Neal's tweets and the comments he is replying to - unless there is something more going on behind the scenes, I think he is completely out of line. One guy suggesting that Jon should not have gone (only his wife) and Neal liking that tweet. How in the world is it wrong for someone to go chill at the white house for a bit. Fleetwood Mac played Clinton's inaugural and it's no secret their political leanings, but I don't listen to "Don't Stop" to get my liberal does of politics. I listen to it because it's just a damn good song about letting go of the past and looking to a brighter future. What the hell should I care who the members support. Journey has donated to political causes in the past. And this should bother me how?
I am all for keeping an overt political or religious message out of the music, even if so as not to alienate half the fan base. And they have done that. But Arnel chillin' up in the White House is cool by anyone's standards no matter who is in the White House. Sorry - I hope Neal calms down. No one is going to put on Journey's greatest hits and be forced to think of Trump or God. Silly.
Art Vandelay wrote:Memorex wrote:Reading more of Neal's tweets and the comments he is replying to - unless there is something more going on behind the scenes, I think he is completely out of line. One guy suggesting that Jon should not have gone (only his wife) and Neal liking that tweet. How in the world is it wrong for someone to go chill at the white house for a bit. Fleetwood Mac played Clinton's inaugural and it's no secret their political leanings, but I don't listen to "Don't Stop" to get my liberal does of politics. I listen to it because it's just a damn good song about letting go of the past and looking to a brighter future. What the hell should I care who the members support. Journey has donated to political causes in the past. And this should bother me how?
I am all for keeping an overt political or religious message out of the music, even if so as not to alienate half the fan base. And they have done that. But Arnel chillin' up in the White House is cool by anyone's standards no matter who is in the White House. Sorry - I hope Neal calms down. No one is going to put on Journey's greatest hits and be forced to think of Trump or God. Silly.
Memorex - I don't disagree with you. Actually, in my opinion you are spot-on. But you do have to admit that the US political situation has turned things into one big cluster*** like it never has seen before. I don't speak politics or religion with anyone, but I know so many who do with a passion, and so many of their relationships (personal and professional, friend and family) have bee fractured. All because of silly nonsense disagreements. It's a confusing time we're living in. You have to be very cautious what you say and who you say it to, and my guess is that Neal doesn't want the band to enter that gray area in any way and risk losing fans because of it. WIth that said, if I were offered a tour of the White House, you can bet I'd check it out. It's a house full of history, and it doesn't matter if I support the current President or not. Like all the others before him, he's only a temporary tenant anyway.
Memorex wrote:Reading more of Neal's tweets and the comments he is replying to - unless there is something more going on behind the scenes, I think he is completely out of line. One guy suggesting that Jon should not have gone (only his wife) and Neal liking that tweet. How in the world is it wrong for someone to go chill at the white house for a bit. Fleetwood Mac played Clinton's inaugural and it's no secret their political leanings, but I don't listen to "Don't Stop" to get my liberal does of politics. I listen to it because it's just a damn good song about letting go of the past and looking to a brighter future. What the hell should I care who the members support. Journey has donated to political causes in the past. And this should bother me how?
I am all for keeping an overt political or religious message out of the music, even if so as not to alienate half the fan base. And they have done that. But Arnel chillin' up in the White House is cool by anyone's standards no matter who is in the White House. Sorry - I hope Neal calms down. No one is going to put on Journey's greatest hits and be forced to think of Trump or God. Silly.
tater1977 wrote:OUCH ....
Michael Mountain - All "Journey" is to JC is a touring cash cow. He phones in his performances, doesn't want to use his position in the band to create anything new and cashes the check. He has become everything that real music is not. He is basically a breathing juke box, not a musician.
9 hrs
Neal Schon FB
Neal Schon - Say that again
4 hrs
hoagiepete wrote:Memorex wrote:Reading more of Neal's tweets and the comments he is replying to - unless there is something more going on behind the scenes, I think he is completely out of line. One guy suggesting that Jon should not have gone (only his wife) and Neal liking that tweet. How in the world is it wrong for someone to go chill at the white house for a bit. Fleetwood Mac played Clinton's inaugural and it's no secret their political leanings, but I don't listen to "Don't Stop" to get my liberal does of politics. I listen to it because it's just a damn good song about letting go of the past and looking to a brighter future. What the hell should I care who the members support. Journey has donated to political causes in the past. And this should bother me how?
I am all for keeping an overt political or religious message out of the music, even if so as not to alienate half the fan base. And they have done that. But Arnel chillin' up in the White House is cool by anyone's standards no matter who is in the White House. Sorry - I hope Neal calms down. No one is going to put on Journey's greatest hits and be forced to think of Trump or God. Silly.
Sounds like he could be handling this better, but understand his concern. I have never listened to "Don't Stop" the same way since seeing the Clinton's soaking things up in all their glory to the song. I'm guessing I'm not alone. I've attended two FM concerts since then, but sure don't care for "Don't Stop" anymore. Truly ruined the song for me.
Journey/Survivor wrote:tater1977 wrote:OUCH ....
Michael Mountain - All "Journey" is to JC is a touring cash cow. He phones in his performances, doesn't want to use his position in the band to create anything new and cashes the check. He has become everything that real music is not. He is basically a breathing juke box, not a musician.
9 hrs
Neal Schon FB
Neal Schon - Say that again
4 hrs
That comment from that fan was exactly true, unfortunately. I have always been, and still am in many ways a huge fan of Jonathan Cain. But he has become the #1 worst thing for Journey, a guy that is holding the band back in just about every way and who just wants to collect a paycheck.
tater1977 wrote:Schon says he doesn't need Cain. So why doesn't he get the guys who
want to write from within the band and pull in a few folks off the street,
who they want to write with. Try a few writing sessions and see how
it goes.
Memorex wrote:tater1977 wrote:Schon says he doesn't need Cain. So why doesn't he get the guys who
want to write from within the band and pull in a few folks off the street,
who they want to write with. Try a few writing sessions and see how
it goes.
I look at Neal and see a guy who wants his band back.
perryfan61 wrote:I'm guessing these last couple of shows could be very tense....if not downright toxic
Memorex wrote:hoagiepete wrote:Memorex wrote:Reading more of Neal's tweets and the comments he is replying to - unless there is something more going on behind the scenes, I think he is completely out of line. One guy suggesting that Jon should not have gone (only his wife) and Neal liking that tweet. How in the world is it wrong for someone to go chill at the white house for a bit. Fleetwood Mac played Clinton's inaugural and it's no secret their political leanings, but I don't listen to "Don't Stop" to get my liberal does of politics. I listen to it because it's just a damn good song about letting go of the past and looking to a brighter future. What the hell should I care who the members support. Journey has donated to political causes in the past. And this should bother me how?
I am all for keeping an overt political or religious message out of the music, even if so as not to alienate half the fan base. And they have done that. But Arnel chillin' up in the White House is cool by anyone's standards no matter who is in the White House. Sorry - I hope Neal calms down. No one is going to put on Journey's greatest hits and be forced to think of Trump or God. Silly.
Sounds like he could be handling this better, but understand his concern. I have never listened to "Don't Stop" the same way since seeing the Clinton's soaking things up in all their glory to the song. I'm guessing I'm not alone. I've attended two FM concerts since then, but sure don't care for "Don't Stop" anymore. Truly ruined the song for me.
I think that says more about you than Fleetwood Mac.
I don;t know, if I based my entertainment on entertainers political views, it just seems like a lot of effort. I just enjoy performances. I could care less beyond that.
Memorex wrote:tater1977 wrote:Schon says he doesn't need Cain. So why doesn't he get the guys who
want to write from within the band and pull in a few folks off the street,
who they want to write with. Try a few writing sessions and see how
it goes.
I look at Neal and see a guy who wants his band back.
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