slucero wrote:"...... for every hour the guitarist works, 50 minutes of that work goes to paying his alimony."
Dayum...
scarab wrote:who was Schons first wife? She must be loaded.
bellairepark73 wrote: the apple doesn't and couldn't fall far the tree.
tj wrote:bellairepark73 wrote: the apple doesn't and couldn't fall far the tree.
Neal doesn't always act like it, but he is a big boy. None of this is on Herbie. Neal has made his own choices over the years from the divorces to agreeing to Perry's demands that Ross and Smith be let go. All of Neal's decisions are on Neal, not Herbie.
tj wrote:bellairepark73 wrote: the apple doesn't and couldn't fall far the tree.
Neal doesn't always act like it, but he is a big boy. None of this is on Herbie. Neal has made his own choices over the years from the divorces to agreeing to Perry's demands that Ross and Smith be let go. All of Neal's decisions are on Neal, not Herbie.
bellairepark73 wrote:tj wrote:bellairepark73 wrote: the apple doesn't and couldn't fall far the tree.
Neal doesn't always act like it, but he is a big boy. None of this is on Herbie. Neal has made his own choices over the years from the divorces to agreeing to Perry's demands that Ross and Smith be let go. All of Neal's decisions are on Neal, not Herbie.
Actually it IS! While much of the decisions were on Neal much of the MISINFORMATION is on HERBIE!!! Or have we all have now selected memory that the glorious BS'er once said of Steve: "he has them pimping for him" Him meaning Steve and them meaning Journey! When it was really...wait for it...according to this article. ..NEAL'S WIFE!!!
I always found Herbie's vitriolic commentary to be incomplete and down right untruthful. Now someone ELSE revealed the TRUTH that much of it went to Neal's 1st wife, Beth. No wonder Neal had to keep busy! HE WAS THE ONE PAYING THROUGH THE NOSE TO HIS WIFE but made it seem as IF STEVE was STEALING money from him because of what Steve negotiated. You know when you do ugly in the dark...GOD brings your reflection into the LIGHT where everyone can see it!
Tomulator wrote:You people are totally underestimating the fact that Perry's voice was a HUGE part of the success of those albums...Journey does NOT have a "Steve Perry" as there is only ONE.
It ain't that easy to just "copy" past successes...if they COULD...they WOULD.
Not without Perry.
tater1977 wrote:Tomulator wrote:You people are totally underestimating the fact that Perry's voice was a HUGE part of the success of those albums...Journey does NOT have a "Steve Perry" as there is only ONE.
It ain't that easy to just "copy" past successes...if they COULD...they WOULD.
Not without Perry.
Well over the years, we've seen/heard what results SP's input has produced with Cain/Schon.
And over the years, we've seen/heard the Cain/Schon alone collaboration and what it
has produced.
Seems like if you want the old Journey sound again, it ain't happening unless it's
all three again.
They did come close with 2 or 3 songs, but that brass ring just ain't there anymore.
How does this contradict anything Herbie has said on the past? It doesn't in any way. In the past when he said Perry was pimping them out is very true. Although I wouldn't use the word pimping. Perry allowed them to tour without fighting over the name for a full share of touring money. So 6 guys are getting paid while 5 guys tour and do the work. Goer deal for Perry and to be honest probably a good deal for the band. They would have had a long legal process and cost huge sums of money that in 1998, the company didn't have. I don't know how long Perry's deal was or if it is still active.
In this interview it states Neal's first wife gets 50% of the Greatest Hits money. This does not matter if they tour or not. Most divorce settlements are based on a fixed upfront payment or periodic payments based on income. If Journey didn't tour Neal would pay his settlements less.
You never know what people's financial situations are or what the motivation is. Neal clearly has big spending habits. Lambos and other things. And divorce is expensive and Jon and Ross have gone through that. Because of the success touring is not that hard for them. They generally don't end up on busses or commercial jets. Outside of phoners they don't do a lot of publicity. Hard to turn away from that much money even if it's just to pass on to the kids.
Tomulator wrote:You people are totally underestimating the fact that Perry's voice was a HUGE part of the success of those albums...Journey does NOT have a "Steve Perry" as there is only ONE.
It ain't that easy to just "copy" past successes...if they COULD...they WOULD.
Not without Perry.
bellairepark73 wrote:Tomulator wrote:You people are totally underestimating the fact that Perry's voice was a HUGE part of the success of those albums...Journey does NOT have a "Steve Perry" as there is only ONE.
It ain't that easy to just "copy" past successes...if they COULD...they WOULD.
Not without Perry.
Oh my G.O.D. Thank you Tomulator! They underestimate Steve's contribution CONSISTENTLY. It is sickening. Good grief people! Not only his voice but his contributions in songwriting and arrangements and lyrics. Either get ginkgo biloba or go get more sleep.
JourneyHard wrote:Since Neal needs money fast, this begs the question. Why doesn't he make a new album that sounds EXACTLY like classic Journey? Even if you have to borrow from old songs and tweak them a little. This is what people want to hear.
I listened to Eclipse for the first time in over a year. I love it. But if this isn't what people want, then give the people what they want. I know he wants to be creative and make something new and not rehash the old stuff, but the people love the old stuff. You have to go where the money is. If that means doing the same old same old. then YES! Do the same old same old.
Now, I am starting to believe what this article said about the band NOT even liking Journey music anymore. Maybe that is the real reason they don't kick out Evolution 2.0.
Pacfanweb wrote:bellairepark73 wrote:Tomulator wrote:You people are totally underestimating the fact that Perry's voice was a HUGE part of the success of those albums...Journey does NOT have a "Steve Perry" as there is only ONE.
It ain't that easy to just "copy" past successes...if they COULD...they WOULD.
Not without Perry.
Oh my G.O.D. Thank you Tomulator! They underestimate Steve's contribution CONSISTENTLY. It is sickening. Good grief people! Not only his voice but his contributions in songwriting and arrangements and lyrics. Either get ginkgo biloba or go get more sleep.
It's not just Perry's voice, either. It's his phrasing, his inflection.
Prime example is Wheel in the Sky. Listen to the Fleischman version...that would have NEVER done anything. Perry made all the difference on that song, simply by singing it HIS way. Hell, Fleischman doesn't even sing it his original way anymore now...he sings it more like Perry did.
Perry is THE reason that Journey took off. Without him, they were destined to be on the level of a Foghat or Nazareth.
But Perry entered, Rolie left, that brought Cain and started the magic. It's a combination of all, but Perry's voice is the prime mover, with Cain's writing a strong second that made Journey what it is.
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