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Youtuber Fil, of the "Wings of Pegasus" channel, (who previously tackled allegations of Arnel auto-tune usage), has now analyzed the recent "live" 49ers performance by Neal and members of Journey. His conclusion? Deen's lead vox is auto-tuned and pre-recorded. He questions Neal's playing as well.

https://youtu.be/1eqlAsXrkkc?si=BC2qcqh9hB9skpP8

Disappointing that they can't leave the autotune alone... Who knows what will be live on the upcoming tour. Maybe this explains why they're able to pull off such a dense schedule.

He seemed pained to have to report his conclusion, offering compliments to Deen for his talent and seems to have respect for the band. I'm guessing the stadium requires this.

Question: Would you rather hear and see a concert with some "help" for the band, hear and see a concert that sounds like crap with no help, or... have no concert at all? That's what we have to decide these days. I'd rather see a show with some assistance...but that's me.

To demand the excellence that some seem to be demanded these days does not seem reasonable.

OlHoag wrote:He seemed pained to have to report his conclusion, offering compliments to Deen for his talent and seems to have respect for the band. I'm guessing the stadium requires this.

Question: Would you rather hear and see a concert with some "help" for the band, hear and see a concert that sounds like crap with no help, or... have no concert at all? That's what we have to decide these days. I'd rather see a show with some assistance...but that's me.

To demand the excellence that some seem to be demanded these days does not seem reasonable.

Yeah. In my opinion, no young and healthy singers should ever be using autotune. And even if it's a singer who is way past his prime, like say Steve Perry for example, it should be made public by the singer/band themselves that it's being used. But I'm not entirely opposed to an old worn out singer like Steve Perry, for example, to use autotune. I'd rather hear Perry, Pineda, or anyone else who's loosing their voice due to age and constant wear-and-tear use autotune to sound good, than for them to sound like absolute shit live in concert. However. In general. None of the members of Journey who are playing instruments like guitars, bass, keyboards, drums, should ever be miming along to recordings of their playing. With the exception of where TV shows require it.

OlHoag wrote:He seemed pained to have to report his conclusion, offering compliments to Deen for his talent and seems to have respect for the band. I'm guessing the stadium requires this.

Question: Would you rather hear and see a concert with some "help" for the band, hear and see a concert that sounds like crap with no help, or... have no concert at all? That's what we have to decide these days. I'd rather see a show with some assistance...but that's me.

To demand the excellence that some seem to be demanded these days does not seem reasonable.

I’d rather see the warts

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Youtuber Fil, of the "Wings of Pegasus" channel, (who previously tackled allegations of Arnel auto-tune usage), has now analyzed the recent "live" 49ers performance by Neal and members of Journey. His conclusion? Deen's lead vox is auto-tuned and pre-recorded. He questions Neal's playing as well.

https://youtu.be/1eqlAsXrkkc?si=BC2qcqh9hB9skpP8

Wow, I saw this on my feed but did not realize it was about Journey so I did not watch it.

So, according to Fin - in his opinion:
Deen's vocal is not live and is heavily tuned.
Neal's guitar is not live.
Deen's drums are not live.
He could not see Todd's bass playing to analyze it.

This is crazy...it seems the entire band is playing and singing to prerecorded music. I have to wonder how long this has been going on. The other analysis with Arnel and Jonathan introducing the band while auto tuned was a few years old. How old was the video Fil showed where he said Deen was singing live?

Monker wrote:How old was the video Fil showed where he said Deen was singing live?

It was JTT, so that would have been 2018.