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Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:45 pm

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verslibre wrote:http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/383141-infowars-alex-jones-cries-over-trump-airstrikes-hes-crapping

“If he had been a piece of crap from the beginning, it wouldn’t be so bad,” a visibly emotional Jones said of Trump. “We’ve made so many sacrifices and now he’s crapping all over us. It makes me sick." :lol:


Alex Jones needs a cry buddy. Where's Glenn Beck? :mrgreen:


Glen Beck pretty much morphed into a preacher.
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Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:47 pm

I hope soon to wake up one morning and hear Jeff Sessions has been fired.

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:49 pm

This makes a little more sense and sheds a little more light on Gritens.

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:42 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Glen Beck pretty much morphed into a preacher.



He's focusing more on news again. I think the show is back on track.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:51 am

ohsherrie wrote:No, not if it was a circumstance like you described, I wouldn't be in favor, but according to what I've read that wasn't the circumstance with Backpage or the personals page on Craigslist (which they had already voluntarily shut down).


Voluntarily? Does this sound voluntarily?

"US Congress just passed HR 1865,FOSTA, seeking to subject websites to criminal and civil liability when third parties (users) misuse online personals unlawfully.
Any tool or service can be misused. We can't take such risk without jeopardizing all our other services, so we are regretfully taking craigslist personals offline. Hopefully we can bring them back some day. To the millions of spouses, partners, and couples who met through craigslist, we wish you every happiness!"


It's a textbook example of the chilling effect that happens when the government clamps down on free speech. As already mentioned, Reddit is now shutting down other forums because they are afraid of being sued.

ohsherrie wrote:Any Right can be abused, that doesn't mean we all have to like or accept the way in which it is abused. If a twisted person is daily sending, through whatever medium, disgustingly graphic threats on the life of another person should law enforcement ignore it to keep from infringing on that person's freedom of speech? Is that why they ignored Nikolas Cruz's threats on Parkland?


This is a non-sequitur. If anything on Craig'sList or Backpage was "disgustingly graphic", individual users could flag it and take it down. Not the government's job. Furthermore, websites hosting disgustingly graphic content still exist. This is just more of the government attempting to legislate morality - as history shows, this never turns out well. This is as bad as Sessions' cracking down on pot shops. Very juvenile. Adults can make their own decisions regarding who they fuck and what they toke.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:19 am

From state owned Chinese media:

"The US has a record of launching wars on deceptive grounds. The Bush government asserted the Saddam regime held chemical weapons before the US-British coalition troops invaded Iraq in 2003. However, the coalition forces didn't find what they called weapons of mass destruction after overthrowing the Saddam regime. Both Washington and London admitted later that their intelligence was false."


Hey, when they're right, they're right.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:16 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Glen Beck pretty much morphed into a preacher.



He's focusing more on news again. I think the show is back on track.


I stopped listening and watching him long ago.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:21 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I hope soon to wake up one morning and hear Jeff Sessions has been fired.

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I think we need to first look for indictments to come form the outside DC prosecutor Sessions appointed to work with the IG. The hardest thing about watching all of this is to have patience. I think we are in for a long ride as this thing plays out. I too struggle with having the patience for it. But, it if ensures that charges will stick and as many of the guilty can be rounded up, I'm willing to wait.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:32 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:No, not if it was a circumstance like you described, I wouldn't be in favor, but according to what I've read that wasn't the circumstance with Backpage or the personals page on Craigslist (which they had already voluntarily shut down).


Voluntarily? Does this sound voluntarily?

"US Congress just passed HR 1865,FOSTA, seeking to subject websites to criminal and civil liability when third parties (users) misuse online personals unlawfully.
Any tool or service can be misused. We can't take such risk without jeopardizing all our other services, so we are regretfully taking craigslist personals offline. Hopefully we can bring them back some day. To the millions of spouses, partners, and couples who met through craigslist, we wish you every happiness!"


It's a textbook example of the chilling effect that happens when the government clamps down on free speech. As already mentioned, Reddit is now shutting down other forums because they are afraid of being sued.


Yes, they shut down before they were shut down and faced procecution for allowing prostitution to be pimped on their website. Prostitution is against the law. Murder is against the law. Should it be allowed to be arranged for hire on websites?

ohsherrie wrote:Any Right can be abused, that doesn't mean we all have to like or accept the way in which it is abused. If a twisted person is daily sending, through whatever medium, disgustingly graphic threats on the life of another person should law enforcement ignore it to keep from infringing on that person's freedom of speech? Is that why they ignored Nikolas Cruz's threats on Parkland?


This is a non-sequitur. If anything on Craig'sList or Backpage was "disgustingly graphic", individual users could flag it and take it down. Not the government's job. Furthermore, websites hosting disgustingly graphic content still exist. This is just more of the government attempting to legislate morality - as history shows, this never turns out well. This is as bad as Sessions' cracking down on pot shops. Very juvenile. Adults can make their own decisions regarding who they fuck and what they toke.


Nope, not a non-sequitur at all. The point of this discussion is infringement on Freedom of Speech, not how qraphical the ads on pimping sites are. My use of the description of the threats was simply to suggest that this could very well be taken very seriously by the recipient and should be by law enforcement. Would finding this person who sent the threats and forcing him/her to stop be infringing on the threatener's right to Freedom of Speech? Does that therefore make it logical or ok that Law Enforcement ignored all the warnings about Nikolas Cruz and allowed a lot of kids to be shot up?

Where do you draw the line on what illegal or potentially catastrophic "speech" is to be ignored?
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:05 am

"US Congress just passed HR 1865,FOSTA, seeking to subject websites to criminal and civil liability when third parties (users) misuse online personals unlawfully.
Any tool or service can be misused. We can't take such risk without jeopardizing all our other services, so we are regretfully taking craigslist personals offline. Hopefully we can bring them back some day. To the millions of spouses, partners, and couples who met through craigslist, we wish you every happiness!"


Good. That is the way it should be. Website owners are responsible for the content posted on THEIR webspace...and that includes what is posted to message forums. When you go to a message forum and post, you are not excercising a right to free speech. You are using somebody elses "property" to express yourself. The owner is responsible for keeping things under control and "legal". That may including kicking people off, shutting down topics, removing forums, banning IP's...or removing the entire web forum from the site. It is THEIR web space that you are given the privilege to post to, not the "right".

It is no different then VH1 shutting down their forums because people were abusing them. Or, Sony shutting down their Journey forums because of how they were being used. Or, how Journey was so restrictive on what was posted to their forum. The OWNER controls the web space - not the users. If the owner can not control it, then they should take it down.

If people are using the forum for illegal things, then the owner is responsible. That is what I warned about here not too long ago (I don't remember what the details were). Or, what I said years ago when people were posting nude photos...that Andrew's site may start being considered an adult site.

Site owners censoring certain types of posts, or ads, is not restricting free speech. The people posting such things are free to go whereever else they can to do the same thing. Or, they can start their own websites. Or, they can post to Usenet where there are no restrictions. It is like submitting an article or an ad to a magazine. That magazine has the right to refuse to publish it. Period. It is not censorship or violating some right because YOU have the right to submit the article or ad to other magazines...or to self-publish it.

Craigslist is whining about what THEY should have been able to control from the start. It is THEIR fault they lost control and their personals are being abused. It is THEIR responsibility to either get control, or end the service. THEY chose to end the service and then whine about a problem THEY allowed. Get over it already.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:38 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Glen Beck pretty much morphed into a preacher.



He's focusing more on news again. I think the show is back on track.


I've just been giving him about five minutes and turning him off this year. I only get to listen to him and rush on Wednesdays any way.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:40 am

More coming out. Thanks comey. What a moron.

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:26 am

Boomchild wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Glen Beck pretty much morphed into a preacher.



He's focusing more on news again. I think the show is back on track.


I stopped listening and watching him long ago.


I think he's dangerously egocentric.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby slucero » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:20 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:From state owned Chinese media:

"The US has a record of launching wars on deceptive grounds. The Bush government asserted the Saddam regime held chemical weapons before the US-British coalition troops invaded Iraq in 2003. However, the coalition forces didn't find what they called weapons of mass destruction after overthrowing the Saddam regime. Both Washington and London admitted later that their intelligence was false."


Hey, when they're right, they're right.



The last 2 nations to threaten the reserve status of the $USD and the PetroDollar?


  • IRAQ - Saddam Hussain when he demanded Euros for his oil. His arrogance was a threat to the PetroDollar.
  • LIBYA - Gadhafi planned to quit selling Libyan oil in U.S. dollars, and would create a gold-backed "dinar" currency to compete with the euro and dollar

Next thing we are told....

  • Suddenly Saddam had WMD, and
  • Momar was a dictator..... and absurd Viagra mass rape claim.

and they had to go.


Moral of the story... don't believe what the either side of the MSM tells you, because the Establishement owns both of them.

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:55 pm

ohsherrie wrote:Yes, they shut down before they were shut down and faced procecution for allowing prostitution to be pimped on their website. Prostitution is against the law. Murder is against the law. Should it be allowed to be arranged for hire on websites?


Why are you comparing sex between consenting adults to murder? We have always had dumb laws. Prohibition? Sodomy? Interracial marriage? This is a huge step backwards.

ohsherrie wrote:Nope, not a non-sequitur at all. The point of this discussion is infringement on Freedom of Speech, not how qraphical the ads on pimping sites are. My use of the description of the threats was simply to suggest that this could very well be taken very seriously by the recipient and should be by law enforcement. Would finding this person who sent the threats and forcing him/her to stop be infringing on the threatener's right to Freedom of Speech? Does that therefore make it logical or ok that Law Enforcement ignored all the warnings about Nikolas Cruz and allowed a lot of kids to be shot up?


Now you are comparing sex between consenting adults to threats of a high school massacre. Nobody gets hurt when two consenting adults fuck. If we want to apply this "moral crusade" logic to Nicholas Cruz, then the social media sites that hosted his threats should be shut down by the government. That is what you are arguing.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:06 pm

Monker wrote:Good. That is the way it should be. Website owners are responsible for the content posted on THEIR webspace...and that includes what is posted to message forums. When you go to a message forum and post, you are not excercising a right to free speech. You are using somebody elses "property" to express yourself. The owner is responsible for keeping things under control and "legal". That may including kicking people off, shutting down topics, removing forums, banning IP's...or removing the entire web forum from the site. It is THEIR web space that you are given the privilege to post to, not the "right".

It is no different then VH1 shutting down their forums because people were abusing them. Or, Sony shutting down their Journey forums because of how they were being used. Or, how Journey was so restrictive on what was posted to their forum. The OWNER controls the web space - not the users. If the owner can not control it, then they should take it down.

If people are using the forum for illegal things, then the owner is responsible. That is what I warned about here not too long ago (I don't remember what the details were). Or, what I said years ago when people were posting nude photos...that Andrew's site may start being considered an adult site.

Site owners censoring certain types of posts, or ads, is not restricting free speech. The people posting such things are free to go whereever else they can to do the same thing. Or, they can start their own websites. Or, they can post to Usenet where there are no restrictions. It is like submitting an article or an ad to a magazine. That magazine has the right to refuse to publish it. Period. It is not censorship or violating some right because YOU have the right to submit the article or ad to other magazines...or to self-publish it.

Craigslist is whining about what THEY should have been able to control from the start. It is THEIR fault they lost control and their personals are being abused. It is THEIR responsibility to either get control, or end the service. THEY chose to end the service and then whine about a problem THEY allowed. Get over it already.


This crusade is not spearheaded by website owners. It's led by the government, which should not be in the business of regulating content it disagrees with on a moral basis - with limited exceptions.

The VH1 forums towards the very end were full of spam ads. Nobody was using them. Before that, it was just a lot of all SA versus Perry mudslinging. Not even a remotely close comparison.

As for websites like Craigslist doing a better job policing the millions of ads on their site...give me a break. You couldn't even manage a single dating ad.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Andrew » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:26 pm

Hannity. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:11 pm

Andrew wrote:Hannity. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


The people pretending to care about this don't watch Hannity. The people that do watch Hannity don't care. In short - nobody cares.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:15 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:Good. That is the way it should be. Website owners are responsible for the content posted on THEIR webspace...and that includes what is posted to message forums. When you go to a message forum and post, you are not excercising a right to free speech. You are using somebody elses "property" to express yourself. The owner is responsible for keeping things under control and "legal". That may including kicking people off, shutting down topics, removing forums, banning IP's...or removing the entire web forum from the site. It is THEIR web space that you are given the privilege to post to, not the "right".

It is no different then VH1 shutting down their forums because people were abusing them. Or, Sony shutting down their Journey forums because of how they were being used. Or, how Journey was so restrictive on what was posted to their forum. The OWNER controls the web space - not the users. If the owner can not control it, then they should take it down.

If people are using the forum for illegal things, then the owner is responsible. That is what I warned about here not too long ago (I don't remember what the details were). Or, what I said years ago when people were posting nude photos...that Andrew's site may start being considered an adult site.

Site owners censoring certain types of posts, or ads, is not restricting free speech. The people posting such things are free to go whereever else they can to do the same thing. Or, they can start their own websites. Or, they can post to Usenet where there are no restrictions. It is like submitting an article or an ad to a magazine. That magazine has the right to refuse to publish it. Period. It is not censorship or violating some right because YOU have the right to submit the article or ad to other magazines...or to self-publish it.

Craigslist is whining about what THEY should have been able to control from the start. It is THEIR fault they lost control and their personals are being abused. It is THEIR responsibility to either get control, or end the service. THEY chose to end the service and then whine about a problem THEY allowed. Get over it already.


This crusade is not spearheaded by website owners. It's led by the government, which should not be in the business of regulating content it disagrees with on a moral basis - with limited exceptions.

The VH1 forums towards the very end were full of spam ads. Nobody was using them. Before that, it was just a lot of all SA versus Perry mudslinging. Not even a remotely close comparison.

As for websites like Craigslist doing a better job policing the millions of ads on their site...give me a break. You couldn't even manage a single dating ad.


I used Sony and VH1 as comparisons because they lost control of their webspace and THEY SHUT THEM DOWN. Craigslist does not have control of the "personals" service of their webspace. They should shut it down since it is not being used as intended and they have lost control. And, since it is dealing in illegal prostitution, they should face charges if they don't.

It's against the law. Period. It's not even a matter of opinion...it's FACT. If you want to make a meaningful argument, start your own online forum that can be used as a brothel and when you end up in court, then argue this ridiculous "freedom of speech"/"morality" case.
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Postby Monker » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:21 pm

Andrew wrote:Hannity. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


What I want to know is why they wanted so badly to keep it a secret? It sounds like they ignored the order on Friday and argued about it court, and pissed off the judge. Hannity went on the defense about it, saying he asked for advice once in a while, but never paid him, etc...which you EXPECT him to say. Obviously, there is something more here that they don't want anybody to know...I bet Hannity has his own harem of women he has NDA"s with.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:34 pm

Monker wrote:I used Sony and VH1 as comparisons because they lost control of their webspace and THEY SHUT THEM DOWN.


The VH1 forum was not closed under threat from the government. It was just a dying useless forum.

Craigslist does not have control of the "personals" service of their webspace. They should shut it down since it is not being used as intended and they have lost control.


Offensive content was flagged and removed. It worked fine.

And, since it is dealing in illegal prostitution, they should face charges if they don't.


If the gov't can prove prostitution, then go after the prostitutes/pimps. A personal ad is akin to a thoughtcrime. No case.

As mentioned, Reddit is now shutting down forums involving video games and other topics. By its very nature, ANY open forum is going to facilitate a range of ideas and can be abused.

It's against the law. Period. It's not even a matter of opinion...it's FACT.


So go after the crime. When you write your phone number on a truck stop bathroom stall, should the feds knock down the building?

If you want to make a meaningful argument, start your own online forum that can be used as a brothel and when you end up in court, then argue this ridiculous "freedom of speech"/"morality" case.


Great idea. You are already my bitch. I ought to try to make some money off your ass.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:45 pm

Monker wrote: I bet Hannity has his own harem of women he has NDA"s with.


Oh sure. Just like Laura Ingraham's career is soon-to-be toast. Hands down you are the worst political prognosticator in the universe. Just stop.
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Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:55 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote: I bet Hannity has his own harem of women he has NDA"s with.


Oh sure. Just like Laura Ingraham's career is soon-to-be toast. Hands down you are the worst political prognosticator in the universe. Just stop.


Hannity hired a lawyer. I guess people just don't do that. Just like Trump is the only person to bone a porn star. Lord knows a Kennedy never did it. At least Trump didn't kill his. Why don't we have raids on the Clintons lawyers. I'm sure that would save alot of time. How pathetic liberals have gotten trying to dig up ANYTHING to over throw a legal election. Surely there is Russion collusion with Stormy Daniels.
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Postby ohsherrie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:42 pm

Why is this ok but President Trump's lawyer's office gets raided?

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Postby Andrew » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:58 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote: I bet Hannity has his own harem of women he has NDA"s with.


Oh sure. Just like Laura Ingraham's career is soon-to-be toast. Hands down you are the worst political prognosticator in the universe. Just stop.


Just more hypocritical dodgey RWNJs...line em up!
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:12 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Yes, they shut down before they were shut down and faced procecution for allowing prostitution to be pimped on their website. Prostitution is against the law. Murder is against the law. Should it be allowed to be arranged for hire on websites?


Why are you comparing sex between consenting adults to murder? We have always had dumb laws. Prohibition? Sodomy? Interracial marriage? This is a huge step backwards.

ohsherrie wrote:Nope, not a non-sequitur at all. The point of this discussion is infringement on Freedom of Speech, not how qraphical the ads on pimping sites are. My use of the description of the threats was simply to suggest that this could very well be taken very seriously by the recipient and should be by law enforcement. Would finding this person who sent the threats and forcing him/her to stop be infringing on the threatener's right to Freedom of Speech? Does that therefore make it logical or ok that Law Enforcement ignored all the warnings about Nikolas Cruz and allowed a lot of kids to be shot up?


Now you are comparing sex between consenting adults to threats of a high school massacre. Nobody gets hurt when two consenting adults fuck. If we want to apply this "moral crusade" logic to Nicholas Cruz, then the social media sites that hosted his threats should be shut down by the government. That is what you are arguing.


I'm not talking about sex between consenting adults. I'm talking about freedom of speech. Both murder and prostitution are illegal and I'm asking you if you think shutting down a website that allowed murder for hire like Backpage allowed sex for hire would also be an attack on freedom of speech.

The example of Nikolas Cruz was because, due to Cruz's apparent mental health problems, after the Parkland shooting when people started asking for the inclusion of mental health information in the material available in a background check, some people suggested that this would be infringing on the rights of menally ill people. So, I'm asking you if arresting him for running his mouth, regardless of where he did it, and getting him psychiatric help would have been infringing on his 1st amendment rights.

If websites are supposed to be exempt from the laws of this country then they should also be exempt from the protection of the Constitution.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:23 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Wow! Just wow.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04 ... mails-key/


But did the IG put it together the way these people did? On some things the people in the DOJ need a flow chart with bulletpoint on a PowerPoint presentation to connect anything.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:27 am

Monker wrote:
"US Congress just passed HR 1865,FOSTA, seeking to subject websites to criminal and civil liability when third parties (users) misuse online personals unlawfully.
Any tool or service can be misused. We can't take such risk without jeopardizing all our other services, so we are regretfully taking craigslist personals offline. Hopefully we can bring them back some day. To the millions of spouses, partners, and couples who met through craigslist, we wish you every happiness!"


Good. That is the way it should be. Website owners are responsible for the content posted on THEIR webspace...and that includes what is posted to message forums. When you go to a message forum and post, you are not excercising a right to free speech. You are using somebody elses "property" to express yourself. The owner is responsible for keeping things under control and "legal". That may including kicking people off, shutting down topics, removing forums, banning IP's...or removing the entire web forum from the site. It is THEIR web space that you are given the privilege to post to, not the "right".

It is no different then VH1 shutting down their forums because people were abusing them. Or, Sony shutting down their Journey forums because of how they were being used. Or, how Journey was so restrictive on what was posted to their forum. The OWNER controls the web space - not the users. If the owner can not control it, then they should take it down.

If people are using the forum for illegal things, then the owner is responsible. That is what I warned about here not too long ago (I don't remember what the details were). Or, what I said years ago when people were posting nude photos...that Andrew's site may start being considered an adult site.

Site owners censoring certain types of posts, or ads, is not restricting free speech. The people posting such things are free to go whereever else they can to do the same thing. Or, they can start their own websites. Or, they can post to Usenet where there are no restrictions. It is like submitting an article or an ad to a magazine. That magazine has the right to refuse to publish it. Period. It is not censorship or violating some right because YOU have the right to submit the article or ad to other magazines...or to self-publish it.

Craigslist is whining about what THEY should have been able to control from the start. It is THEIR fault they lost control and their personals are being abused. It is THEIR responsibility to either get control, or end the service. THEY chose to end the service and then whine about a problem THEY allowed. Get over it already.


Damn Monker, you rocked that one!
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:32 am

ohsherrie wrote:I'm not talking about sex between consenting adults. I'm talking about freedom of speech. Both murder and prostitution are illegal and I'm asking you if you think shutting down a website that allowed murder for hire like Backpage allowed sex for hire would also be an attack on freedom of speech.


1) This has already happened. In one notable case, a male cannibal was soliciting people via Craig's List to be killed and devoured. Did the site get shut down? No. The authorities got involved. There are other examples of this.

2) Backpage didn't allow sex for hire. They allowed personal ads. You are also dancing around the fact that ALL CL personal forums - including those for friendship - have now been shut down due to fear of government reprisal. Reddit forums on video games are now closed. How is that OK?

ohsherrie wrote:The example of Nikolas Cruz was because, due to Cruz's apparent mental health problems, after the Parkland shooting when people started asking for the inclusion of mental health information in the material available in a background check, some people suggested that this would be infringing on the rights of menally ill people. So, I'm asking you if arresting him for running his mouth, regardless of where he did it, and getting him psychiatric help would have been infringing on his 1st amendment rights.


I would not have arrested Cruz. However, guns should not have been in his household. His foster family needs to be held accountable.

ohsherrie wrote:If websites are supposed to be exempt from the laws of this country then they should also be exempt from the protection of the Constitution.


So enforce the laws. Don't use a mallet instead of a scalpel.
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