President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[hoagiepete]

Who's Biden saying is going to be put back into chains? WTF!

Is Biden the biggest baffoon ever? Holy Cow!

By the way, if a Republican was caught imitating a black voice (as bad as it was), they would be crucified!

[The Sushi Hunter]

August 15, 2012, 9:59 am11 Comments

Pennsylvania Judge Upholds Voter ID Law

By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS


A Pennsylvania judge on Wednesday refused to grant an injunction on a new voter identification law that Democrats say could harm President Obama’s re-election chances by unfairly targeting minorities, college students and others in a key swing state.

The decision by Robert Simpson, a commonwealth court judge, clears the way for Pennsylvania to require voters in the Nov. 6 general election to produce photo identification before they are allowed to cast ballots.

Opponents, who had challenged the law’s constitutionality, had asked Judge Simpson to delay the law’s imposition until after the election. Supporters say the law, variations of which have been passed in other states in recent years, is necessary to prevent voting fraud.

The Pennsylvania law was approved earlier this year by the State Legislature along party lines and signed into law in March by Gov. Tom Corbett, a Republican.

The American Civil Liberties Union is expected to appeal the decision to the State Supreme Court, which is split evenly between Democrats and Republicans. A tie would affirm the law.

Inrteresting, because in CA we have to show photo I.D. when voting but it doesn't seem to be an issue here. But then again, CA is a shoe-in for Dems so maybe that's why it doesn't matter to them in CA.

[Memorex]

Someone needs to explain to me how having an ID requirement harms anyone. There is no category of voter whatsoever that includes people that generally have no ID. They say it hurts minorities. How? No matter who you are life after 18 requires an ID. So let's say they can't drive, can't get a job, can't get welfare or social security, can't bank, can't get a credit card, can't get into an over-21 club, can't buy cigarettes, can't buy alcohol, can't rent a bike on the beach, can't rent a firearm at the gun club, etc. If all of those things require ID and are fine, why not registering and voting? Why is that all so different? I don't get this argument at all. Do you guys know people that are over 18 that can legally vote and are eager to, but have no form of ID?

[conversationpc]

CNN) - A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia.

Davis, who for a time had been considered a rising star in the Democratic Party, wrote a message on his website confirming that he is switching parties.

“If I were to leave the sidelines, it would be as a member of the Republican Party that is fighting the drift in this country in a way that comes closest to my way of thinking: wearing a Democratic label no longer matches what I know about my country and its possibilities,” Davis wrote.

The former congressman said he was thinking about waging a comeback bid in Virginia, where he currently lives. Since leaving office in 2011, Davis has been working at a Washington law firm.

I'd be willing to bet that other blacks have labeled this guy an "oreo", "Uncle Tom", etc.

[slucero]

Poll: Romney with 40% of youth vote

For the first time since he began running for president, Republican Mitt Romney has the support of over 40 percent of America's youth vote, a troubling sign for President Obama who built his 2008 victory with the overwhelming support of younger, idealistic voters.

Pollster John Zogby of JZ Analytics told Secrets Tuesday that Romney received 41 percent in his weekend poll of 1,117 likely voters, for the first time crossing the 40 percent mark. What's more, he said that Romney is the only Republican of those who competed in the primaries to score so high among 18-29 year olds.

"This is the first time I am seeing Romney's numbers this high among 18-29 year olds," said Zogby. "This could be trouble for Obama who needs every young voter he can get."

FF - Its a common misconception that elections are won by swing votes... both parties use this as a rallying point for their base...



http://www.polsci.buffalo.edu/contrib/f ... Voters.pdf

[The Sushi Hunter]

CNN) - A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia.

Davis, who for a time had been considered a rising star in the Democratic Party, wrote a message on his website confirming that he is switching parties.

“If I were to leave the sidelines, it would be as a member of the Republican Party that is fighting the drift in this country in a way that comes closest to my way of thinking: wearing a Democratic label no longer matches what I know about my country and its possibilities,” Davis wrote.

The former congressman said he was thinking about waging a comeback bid in Virginia, where he currently lives. Since leaving office in 2011, Davis has been working at a Washington law firm.

I'd be willing to bet that other blacks have labeled this guy an "oreo", "Uncle Tom", etc.

Not black enough by some and others calling him a stupid.....what was that N word Sharpton and Jackson called Obama some years ago when they didn't know the mic was still on?

[The Sushi Hunter]

It's getting pretty interesting. The last people you want to piss off are the Navy Seals.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/spe ... d=17011775

[slucero]

gonna be an all-out frenzy come November..

[slucero]

gonna be an all-out frenzy come November..

lol....

[Memorex]

Are they gonna trot out Hellary to try and save the day? Is slow Joe heading back to Delaware?


10:15AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing

Oval Office

Closed Press

10:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet with Secretary of State Clinton

Oval Office

Closed Press

12:30PM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet for lunch

Private Dining Room

Closed Press

If this happens, election is over. Obama in a landslide.

[The Sushi Hunter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzwBynPNrzM

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Are they gonna trot out Hellary to try and save the day? Is slow Joe heading back to Delaware?


10:15AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing

Oval Office

Closed Press

10:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet with Secretary of State Clinton

Oval Office

Closed Press

12:30PM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet for lunch

Private Dining Room

Closed Press

If this happens, election is over. Obama in a landslide.

which is why so many republicans (Mccain and Palin) are trying to talk it up. Reverse psychology If they talk it up as being a good thing pehaps O won't do it.

[The Sushi Hunter]

And if noBOzo 2012 still fails this November with or without Basket Case Biden at his side, then what will you think?

[Behshad]

And if noBOzo 2012 still fails this November regardless either way, then what will you think?

The question is what would YOU think ? youre the one who's all worried about current administration. Will you move to Japan ?

[The Sushi Hunter]

And if noBOzo 2012 still fails this November regardless either way, then what will you think?

The question is what would YOU think ? youre the one who's all worried about current administration. Will you move to Japan ?

I'm moving to Japan regardless. Total population in Japan is 127,799,000, total population of America is 314,154,000. Total people on death row in Japan is 129, total people on death row in America is 3,193. Its safer there plus not as much crime. And I don't feel like going to jail for shooting some asswipe who attempts to victimize me or my family. I'm going to where I don't have to worry about that as much.

[Behshad]

And if noBOzo 2012 still fails this November regardless either way, then what will you think?

The question is what would YOU think ? youre the one who's all worried about current administration. Will you move to Japan ?

I'm moving to Japan regardless. Total population in Japan is 127,799,000, total population of America is 314,154,000. Total people on death row in Japan is 129, total people on death row in America is 3,193. Its safer there plus not as much crime. And I don't feel like going to jail for shooting some asswipe who attempts to victimize me or my family. I'm going to where I don't have to worry about that as much.

OK then,since youre moving away, the outcome of this election shouldnt really matter to you

why dont you start a political debate thread for Japenese election and stay away from this one

Total number of people on death row has NOTHING to do with safety in a country!
You could get killed over there by a tripping over a geisha's kimono and going head down on someone holding a chopstick that goes right through your eyeball and brains !

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

And if noBOzo 2012 still fails this November with or without Basket Case Biden at his side, then what will you think?

um good riddance, but I hope Biden gets find a job playing the part of a doofus in a sit com! that idiot is hilarious.

[The Sushi Hunter]

It's going to be a few years before we actually make that perminent move. In the mean time I will be involved in what happens here. And in Japan the biggest risk is earthquakes, and being fataly poisoned from eating fugu sashimi.

[The Sushi Hunter]

So who on this thread was talking about the US auto bailout?

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... /208130392

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

So who on this thread was talking about the US auto bailout?

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... /208130392

A joke, and GM is wasing bucket loads of cash sponsoring Manchester United (and english football team) Rob from the American public, blow it on sport in another country. No one in the UK buys GM Shit anyway. They all buy Fords, Volkswagons, Hondas, and Nissans.

[slucero]

So who on this thread was talking about the US auto bailout?

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... /208130392

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

So who on this thread was talking about the US auto bailout?

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... /208130392

LOL

[The Sushi Hunter]

What do they do with cars that don't sell? I see loads of new cars on the dealer lots that don't sell and then all of a sudden, new model year cars are there. What happened to the old stock? Return it to the manufacture where they dissassemble them and put the parts on the shelf for replacement parts?

[slucero]

It's going to be a few years before we actually make that perminent move. In the mean time I will be involved in what happens here. And in Japan the biggest risk is earthquakes, and being fataly poisoned from eating fugu sashimi.

Japan is the poster child for debt monetization...

Japans saving grace has been that the the great majority of Japanese debt is held by Japanese entities, either individual investors, pension funds or institutions, and that means that the interest rate they pay on that debt is not as influenced by market forces. Add in an historically strong export economy (allowing them to be net importers of capital), and a loyal population that buys "Japanese first," and you have an environment that has allowed Japan to spend beyond its means without experiencing severe pain.

Essentially a nationalized Ponzi scheme...

Japan purchases more diapers for senior citizens than it does for babies... meaning their workforce is declining in size, and their tax revenue base is shrinking..

And now, for the 1st time, Japans savings rate is falling... and the rate of Japans debt monetization has exceeded the Treasury bond purchases by individuals.


Japan is a debt time bomb.

[The Sushi Hunter]

But at least I agree how the government is ran and how they spend the money from their taxpayers.

[slucero]

But at least I agree how the government is ran and how they spend the money from their taxpayers.

You aren't getting it...

Japan has the highest Debt-to-GDP in the WORLD. Worse than Greece. The only reason Japan hasn't collapsed is due to the predominant domestic ownership of Japanese debt. Japan has been manipulating/controlling the interest rate on its debt... instead of the market.

Eventually Japan has to start selling debt to foreign investors... already the the Japanese Public Pension Fund has stated that it will become net sellers of government bonds this year. Unlike the domestic (Japanese) investor, those foreign investors (the Market) are going to ask for higher interest rates... which will cause Japans' cost of servicing just the debt interest to exceed their tax revenue.... when that happens the Ponzi scheme will collapse... Japan will not be able to fund its government... and Japan's currency will become worthless.

There will be no government.

There will be no money from their taxpayers,.

Japan will not be able to import anything.

It will truly be an island on its own.

[ForceInfinity]

It's going to be a few years before we actually make that perminent move. In the mean time I will be involved in what happens here. And in Japan the biggest risk is earthquakes, and being fataly poisoned from eating fugu sashimi.

Japan is the poster child for debt monetization...

Japans saving grace has been that the the great majority of Japanese debt is held by Japanese entities, either individual investors, pension funds or institutions, and that means that the interest rate they pay on that debt is not as influenced by market forces. Add in an historically strong export economy (allowing them to be net importers of capital), and a loyal population that buys "Japanese first," and you have an environment that has allowed Japan to spend beyond its means without experiencing severe pain.

Essentially a nationalized Ponzi scheme...

Japan purchases more diapers for senior citizens than it does for babies... meaning their workforce is declining in size, and their tax revenue base is shrinking..

And now, for the 1st time, Japans savings rate is falling... and the rate of Japans debt monetization has exceeded the Treasury bond purchases by individuals.


Japan is a debt time bomb.

Actually any enconomy that relies on an *increase* in working population just to support the older population is by its own definition a ponzi scheme which accounts for umm... most of the 1st world. What alot of nations don't get is that maybe we need to let the population decline if for no other reason than the fact that in many nations, if they don't run out of money, they'll run out of enough drinking water for everyone.

[slucero]

It's going to be a few years before we actually make that perminent move. In the mean time I will be involved in what happens here. And in Japan the biggest risk is earthquakes, and being fataly poisoned from eating fugu sashimi.

Japan is the poster child for debt monetization...

Japans saving grace has been that the the great majority of Japanese debt is held by Japanese entities, either individual investors, pension funds or institutions, and that means that the interest rate they pay on that debt is not as influenced by market forces. Add in an historically strong export economy (allowing them to be net importers of capital), and a loyal population that buys "Japanese first," and you have an environment that has allowed Japan to spend beyond its means without experiencing severe pain.

Essentially a nationalized Ponzi scheme...

Japan purchases more diapers for senior citizens than it does for babies... meaning their workforce is declining in size, and their tax revenue base is shrinking..

And now, for the 1st time, Japans savings rate is falling... and the rate of Japans debt monetization has exceeded the Treasury bond purchases by individuals.


Japan is a debt time bomb.

Actually any economy that relies on an *increase* in working population just to support the older population is by its own definition a ponzi scheme which accounts for umm... most of the 1st world. What alot of nations don't get is that maybe we need to let the population decline if for no other reason than the fact that in many nations, if they don't run out of money, they'll run out of enough drinking water for everyone.

I never said that.... and you're confusing demographics with fraud.

I said Japans aging population was affecting her savings rate and tax revenue... of which, both currently have afforded Japan the luxury of controlling (manipulating) the interest rate they pay on bonds (debt), because the buyers are domestic... That allows the government to maintain debt-service. (Sort of like buying a car and telling the dealer what your interest rate will be so it will fit your budget).

That's the ponzi

When Japan can no longer do that... and have to sell debt to foreigners.. thy have to face the real market telling them what the rate will be.. and then a very small spike in the interest rate paid (maybe 200 basis points) will render Japan unable to even service the interest...much less pay down principle...

When that happens - BOOM.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Even Hellary knows that this ship is going down and she ain't gonna be on it..

According to author Edward Klein, Obama has put out feelers to Hillary Clinton about accepting the VP spot on the ticket, but Hillary has said no. In the exclusive video below, Klein tells Larry Kudlow why Clinton is reluctant to take the number two spot.

Klein: Until just a couple of weeks ago, the White House was putting out feelers to see if Hillary would accept the vice presidential nod and replace Joe Biden. Bill Clinton was, I'm told, urging his wife to accept the number two slot. He saw this as a great launching pad for her for running in 2016. But then Hillary had lunch in the White House a couple of weeks ago with Valerie Jarrett, Michelle's best friend, senior adviser to both the First Lady and the President.

Kudlow: Just about the biggest Lefty in the White House.

Klein: That's right. She told Valerie she would not accept the vice president spot. The lunch was ostensibly about other matters, but it came up. The vice presidential thing came up. Hillary felt burned out after four years as secretary of state. But I'm told there were more important reasons for her not accepting.

Hey Gin & Toxic Sky.....is Hillary using some type of reverse psychology now? If so, on who?

[RedWingFan]

So who on this thread was talking about the US auto bailout?

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... /208130392

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhi ... tcy-again/

General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again

President Obama is proud of his bailout of General Motors. That’s good, because, if he wins a second term, he is probably going to have to bail GM out again. The company is once again losing market share, and it seems unable to develop products that are truly competitive in the U.S. market.

Right now, the federal government owns 500,000,000 shares of GM, or about 26% of the company. It would need to get about $53.00/share for these to break even on the bailout, but the stock closed at only $20.21/share on Tuesday. This left the government holding $10.1 billion worth of stock, and sitting on an unrealized loss of $16.4 billion.