President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Seven Wishes2]

President Obama, Mitt Romney in a statistical tie, according to nationwide CNN/ORC International poll - @CNN
1 hour ago from CNN

...and Obama is still thrashing Romney in the 8 key swing states...

If I'm not mistaken, your hero, the fiscally conservative protectionist George W. Bush, lost the popular vote by 3% to Gore and still "won" the 2000 election.

[Behshad]

POLL: Doctors choose Romney...

CNN poll magically tightens as calendar turns...

PAPER: Obama will need all the luck that he can get...

For every doctor that votes for Romney , there's 100 patients that vote for Obama

And look at you , counting CNN as a valid source now

[slucero]

I really think this narrative that says if you don't believe something, you must be an idiot is dangerous.

I believe in the Truth and the Constitution... and I'm not Republican or a Democrat... yet I believe in:

Gay rights
A woman's right to choose
State's rights
Small government


It's sad that people pick a side without actually knowing what either side stands for, because they are not willing to invest in actually researching either sides positions on things...

Its even more ironic that when one DOES do the research.. they find that both are willing to stand for whatever keeps them in power...

[Seven Wishes2]

I believe that's called "wishful thinking" on Drudge's behalf. The way the GOP is talking, you'd think Obama was down by 25 points.

Interesting to note that LieFinder and RWF have failed to touch upon my lasts two posts. Conveniently swept under the rug or just plain ignored.

[Monker]

If Romney doesn't offer up a clear plan in the debates, he's done. He needs to make people understand why they should get off the couch and change directions.

Obama needs to figure out a way to explain how the next four years will be any better than the last four. There are no indicators that I see that lead me to think we are going to get back to prosperity and get people's money back into the economy. I see the opposite right now. The stock market is going to fall again because the growth is based on nothing real. The debt is going to become even more unsustainable. All these companies that are teetering on the edge will collapse.

If I was Romney, I'd ask Obama one simple question. Where have you been and what have you done for the last 18 months? I can't think of anything substantial that Obama has done in a very long time. He needs to lead this county out of where we are. And if he was waiting for a second term to do that, that's a pity. Obama allowed the air to be let out of the balloon.

Well, if I were Obama, I would answer that with, "That's interesting...a 'conservative' asking what government has done for him." That question reminds me of Jon Stewart's "Bullshit Mountain" tirade. If you're successful, "You built that." If not, then government stood in your way. If you get a break, it's a good thing. If someone else does, it's an entitlement and you are dependent on the system. Obama shouldn't take it to that level...but he should absolutely remind people of the hypocrisy of the Republican party for even asking that question.

As for what Obama has done: Brought us out of another great depression. Ended the work in Iraq. Killed Osama bin Laden. Saved the auto industry. Ensured the health care for millions of Americans. We were on the precipice of national financial disaster even worse the the Great Depression - and we avoided, and started building things in the right direction. No, it's not complete. No, not enough people are back to work. However, IMO only, we are at a point where 'prosperity' is going to happen as business start feeling more relaxed with their cash, hiring and expanding their businness...I *KNOW* this is already happening in the financial industry and IT. There are so many more jobs out there now compared to a few years ago, if you have the skills/experience, I don't know why you are still not employed.

The economy is so much better now then when Bush left. It's not that way EVERYWHERE in the country...but it will be within the next four years - regardless of who is President. And, it is to Obama's credit that it will happen.

Debt doesn't matter. That has been proven over and over again in our history. Even Reagan ignored the debt after he beat Carter. The debt has increased so much because the economy collapsed. As the economy picks up, the debt will decrease. Again, I think that's going to happen regardless of who is President. Neither of these guys is Ross Perot. The debt is not a winning, or losing, issue for either of them.

Now, IMO, I think this is Obama's election to lose now. He is going to have to do some REALLY bad to lose this. Romney can't do enough to win now....it's up to Obama to really screw up somewhere. I don't see that happening AT ALL.

Then why this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U

Yea - only one side are hypocrites. The sooner everyone realizes that they are two sides of the same coin, the better off we'll be.

It's irrelevant. Reagan used it against Carter. Mondale used it against Reagan. Obama used it against the ghost of W. Now, Republicans are using it against Obama.

The average person doesn't give a damn. They don't see past themselves and their own situation...very myopic. And, like I said, neither of these guys is Ross Perot, trying to explain the debt issue and educate the public. It just isn't going to matter.

As for Republicans being hypocrites...If Romney asks that question, that is how Obama should respond, and I think it would be very effective...and cause the question to blow up in Romney's face.

[slucero]

If Romney doesn't offer up a clear plan in the debates, he's done. He needs to make people understand why they should get off the couch and change directions.

Obama needs to figure out a way to explain how the next four years will be any better than the last four. There are no indicators that I see that lead me to think we are going to get back to prosperity and get people's money back into the economy. I see the opposite right now. The stock market is going to fall again because the growth is based on nothing real. The debt is going to become even more unsustainable. All these companies that are teetering on the edge will collapse.

If I was Romney, I'd ask Obama one simple question. Where have you been and what have you done for the last 18 months? I can't think of anything substantial that Obama has done in a very long time. He needs to lead this county out of where we are. And if he was waiting for a second term to do that, that's a pity. Obama allowed the air to be let out of the balloon.

Well, if I were Obama, I would answer that with, "That's interesting...a 'conservative' asking what government has done for him." That question reminds me of Jon Stewart's "Bullshit Mountain" tirade. If you're successful, "You built that." If not, then government stood in your way. If you get a break, it's a good thing. If someone else does, it's an entitlement and you are dependent on the system. Obama shouldn't take it to that level...but he should absolutely remind people of the hypocrisy of the Republican party for even asking that question.

As for what Obama has done: Brought us out of another great depression. Ended the work in Iraq. Killed Osama bin Laden. Saved the auto industry. Ensured the health care for millions of Americans. We were on the precipice of national financial disaster even worse the the Great Depression - and we avoided, and started building things in the right direction. No, it's not complete. No, not enough people are back to work. However, IMO only, we are at a point where 'prosperity' is going to happen as business start feeling more relaxed with their cash, hiring and expanding their businness...I *KNOW* this is already happening in the financial industry and IT. There are so many more jobs out there now compared to a few years ago, if you have the skills/experience, I don't know why you are still not employed.

The economy is so much better now then when Bush left. It's not that way EVERYWHERE in the country...but it will be within the next four years - regardless of who is President. And, it is to Obama's credit that it will happen.

Debt doesn't matter. That has been proven over and over again in our history. Even Reagan ignored the debt after he beat Carter. The debt has increased so much because the economy collapsed. As the economy picks up, the debt will decrease. Again, I think that's going to happen regardless of who is President. Neither of these guys is Ross Perot. The debt is not a winning, or losing, issue for either of them.

Now, IMO, I think this is Obama's election to lose now. He is going to have to do some REALLY bad to lose this. Romney can't do enough to win now....it's up to Obama to really screw up somewhere. I don't see that happening AT ALL.

Then why this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U

Yea - only one side are hypocrites. The sooner everyone realizes that they are two sides of the same coin, the better off we'll be.

It's irrelevant. Reagan used it against Carter. Mondale used it against Reagan. Obama used it against the ghost of W. Now, Republicans are using it against Obama.

The average person doesn't give a damn. They don't see past themselves and their own situation...very myopic. And, like I said, neither of these guys is Ross Perot, trying to explain the debt issue and educate the public. It just isn't going to matter.

As for Republicans being hypocrites...If Romney asks that question, that is how Obama should respond, and I think it would be very effective...and cause the question to blow up in Romney's face.

It is relevant... as it does validate your point that people are mostly myopic... which is the absolute truth..

Relevant in the context that people should know better... then yes.. it's irrelevant..



The sad truth is we're going to eventually lose our republic because too few care enough to keep it.

[The Sushi Hunter]

POLL: Doctors choose Romney...

CNN poll magically tightens as calendar turns...

PAPER: Obama will need all the luck that he can get...

For every doctor that votes for Romney , there's 100 patients that vote for Obama ;)

And look at you , counting CNN as a valid source now

Your probably correct. Romney's difficulty that he faces in this election is there are more people wanting hand outs than there are who believe in working harder to get more and they vote accordingly. In PA they are letting people vote without providing photo ID. In CA this isn't an issue though since CA is a "shoe-in" for Obama and the dems, they don't need to worry and keep the id requirement intact in this state.

[steveo777]

How do we make sure the estimated 15 million people who are not legal to vote, don't vote? People who vote need to prove they are legal to do so and I have a feeling that hasn't been happening.

[The Sushi Hunter]

How do we make sure the estimated 15 million people who are not legal to vote, don't vote? People who vote need to prove they are legal to do so and I have a feeling that hasn't been happening.

That's the point. They want to make it where these people who are not legal to vote can. Not to mention double voting like people do with DWTS and shit like that. Also dead people will be voting as well.

Look at it this way, which way are people going to vote who are not legal to vote? Republican or Democrat? Yeah, Democrat.

[Behshad]

How do we make sure the estimated 15 million people who are not legal to vote, don't vote? People who vote need to prove they are legal to do so and I have a feeling that hasn't been happening.

That's the point. They want to make it where these people who are not legal to vote can. Not to mention double voting like people do with DWTS and shit like that. Also dead people will be voting as well.

Now now, steveo may be old, but I wouldnt go that far ! Be nice !

[The Sushi Hunter]

So far this is my favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O75JX7CiQig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJA6hn0Pnwo

[Memorex]

The phone program was put in place before Obama, but the people that want their Obama phones and Obama money don't help his cause too much. Or maybe they do.

[Behshad]

[Behshad]

"Curious tape dropping tonight. NOT from MOTHERJONES. Will cause controversy, ignite accusations of racism -- in both directions!"

via Twitter Matt Drudge

I'm sure a tape from 6 years ago will totally change everything !

[Memorex]

"Curious tape dropping tonight. NOT from MOTHERJONES. Will cause controversy, ignite accusations of racism -- in both directions!"

via Twitter Matt Drudge

I'm sure a tape from 6 years ago will totally change everything !

If it's bad enough it will. Smaller things have tanked campaigns before. Since it's coming from a network, i assume it will reflect poorly on Romney. But that's just a guess.

[Behshad]

"Curious tape dropping tonight. NOT from MOTHERJONES. Will cause controversy, ignite accusations of racism -- in both directions!"

via Twitter Matt Drudge

I'm sure a tape from 6 years ago will totally change everything !

If it's bad enough it will. Smaller things have tanked campaigns before. Since it's coming from a network, i assume it will reflect poorly on Romney. But that's just a guess.

If it was anti-Romney , Drudge nor FF would be all excited about it

[The Sushi Hunter]

"Curious tape dropping tonight. NOT from MOTHERJONES. Will cause controversy, ignite accusations of racism -- in both directions!"

via Twitter Matt Drudge

I'm sure a tape from 6 years ago will totally change everything !

If it's bad enough it will. Smaller things have tanked campaigns before. Since it's coming from a network, i assume it will reflect poorly on Romney. But that's just a guess.

If it was anti-Romney , Drudge nor FF would be all excited about it

If it's anti-Romney you and who else will be excited over it?

[Behshad]

"Curious tape dropping tonight. NOT from MOTHERJONES. Will cause controversy, ignite accusations of racism -- in both directions!"

via Twitter Matt Drudge

I'm sure a tape from 6 years ago will totally change everything !

If it's bad enough it will. Smaller things have tanked campaigns before. Since it's coming from a network, i assume it will reflect poorly on Romney. But that's just a guess.

If it was anti-Romney , Drudge nor FF would be all excited about it

If it's anti-Romney you and who else will be excited over it?

not you !

I dont need tapes from 6 years ago. I think Romney puts hit foot in his mouth weekly in 2012 that we dont need old material !

[The Sushi Hunter]

If it's anti-Romney you and who else will be excited over it?

not you !

I dont need tapes from 6 years ago. I think Romney puts hit foot in his mouth weekly in 2012 that we dont need old material !

Speaking of which, where's Biden been lately?

[Behshad]

President Barack Obama has the support of 70% of likely Latino voters, according to a new CNN/ORC International poll.

[Behshad]

If it's anti-Romney you and who else will be excited over it?

not you !

I dont need tapes from 6 years ago. I think Romney puts hit foot in his mouth weekly in 2012 that we dont need old material !

Speaking of which, where's Biden been lately?

At footlocker ?

[Memorex]

Biden did it again today:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/259741-biden-middle-class-has-been-buried

[RedWingFan]

If it's anti-Romney you and who else will be excited over it?

not you !

I dont need tapes from 6 years ago. I think Romney puts hit foot in his mouth weekly in 2012 that we dont need old material !

Speaking of which, where's Biden been lately?

He's out there.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... een-buried

[Memorex]

I think Drudge would report on it either way - even if to link to defensive articles. But if Hannity is showing it, then it has to be pro-Romney. Either that or it is so bad for Romney, they want to get out in front of it. Hannity is Romney's lap dog. I'd like to finish this post, but Hannity is interrupting me.

[The Sushi Hunter]

President Barack Obama has the support of 70% of likely Latino voters, according to a new CNN/ORC International poll.

Meanwhile one American was killed and another was injured near the border in Arizona.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Biden did it again today:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/259741-biden-middle-class-has-been-buried

Nice one.

[Monker]

Ah, Bill Mahr is so good:

http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher-bl ... -hole.html

[Memorex]

Ah, Bill Mahr is so good:

http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher-bl ... -hole.html

Except... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pew-rasmussen-most-accurate/2012/09/11/id/451377

And to his larger point - I know people that only get their "news" from Huffington Post and the Daily Show and when you try and have a discussion with them, they know nothing more than what has been fed to them there.

Two Sides - One Coin

[conversationpc]

Ah, Bill Mahr is so good:

http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher-bl ... -hole.html

I'm not sure what poll Maher copied that info from but Obama has been ahead in the Rasmussen poll by a point or two for week or two now. Regardless, Maher is a self-important fool. Rasmussen, along with Pew, were the two most accurate polls in the 2008 election.

[Behshad]

TONIGHT: OBAMA'S OTHER RACE SPEECH



THE ACCENT... THE ANGER... THE ACCUSATIONS... THE SERMON...
FOXNEWS 9 PM ET...
'We don't need to build more highways out in the suburbs. We should be investing in minority-owned businesses, in our neighborhoods'...

DAILY CALLER PLANS EXCLUSIVE RELEASE OF 'UNSCRUBBED' OBAMA VIDEO... DEVELOPING...

DAILY CALLER: 'For nearly 40 minutes, using an accent he never adopts in public, Obama describes a racist, zero-sum society, in which the white majority profits by exploiting black America'... Developing tonight...

Sorry buddy but those who watch Hannity @ 9pm are the ones who had already decided to vote against Obama