President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[The Sushi Hunter]

Hey Behshad, Obama didn't suffer from lack of oxygen afterall, it was lack of brain. Who would have guessed?

Funny ! Now you have something in common with him

[conversationpc]

DENVER—Following last night’s nationally televised presidential debate, President Barack Obama’s 11-year-old daughter Sasha reportedly asked her father why he was “acting like such a goddamned pussy up there.” “Daddy, how come you were being such a little bitch?” asked the sixth-grader, who told the president she was “genuinely worried” that maybe somebody had “cut Daddy’s balls off” right before he took the stage. “What happened, Dad? Were you on your period or something? Maybe the next time you’re in front of the entire country for an hour and a half you should try not letting another man spank you on the ass like that.” Sources added that Obama’s youngest daughter then offered to help the president go “look for [his] dick, because apparently it’s gone missing.”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/sasha- ... suc,29795/

[The Sushi Hunter]

Balls down the shredder.

[Behshad]

Lets blame the California refinery problems on Obama , why not ?

[steveo777]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... Questioned

Suspicion about the federal government's September jobs report has fallen on Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, who appeared on CNBC this morning and defended the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), claiming--falsely--that upward revisions of 86,000 jobs were from the private sector. In fact, the new number is entirely accounted for by upwards revisions to state and federal government payrolls.

There is plenty of motive for these numbers to be skewed. Let us count the ways...........

[slucero]

this may help explain it...

Reason For Today's Unemployment Rate Plunge: Part-Time Jobs For Economic Reasons Surge Most Since QE1 Announcement
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-0 ... ge-most-qe

We already noted the absolutely stunning surge in reported Household Survey jobs which "added" 873,000 jobs, or the most since 2003 and the second most in the past decade, which was just a little bit off the Household Survey used in the monthly NFP jobs changes, which came at 114,000, or about 8 times less. But what was the reason for this epic jump in Household survey jobs? Simple, and those who have read our series on America's transition to a part-time worker society know the answer. The reason is that the number of part-time people employed for economic reasons soared by 582,000 to 8,613,000, the most since October 2011, and the largest one month jump since February 2009, when "restoring" confidence in the economy was all the rage... and just before the Fed announced the full blown QE1 in March of 2009. Odd symmetry.





So putting it all together, what does this mean for the true state of the US economy?

Recall back in September one of our Charts of the Day was the number of Unemployed and Underemployed for the month of August, which was 25.8 million.

Readers may be surprised to learn that when putting it all together, in September this number increased to 26.2 million.

[Seven Wishes2]

Is far as the 47%, it was never about not caring about people. i really wish people could hear things and be objective. He was simply saying, and quite accurately, that as a campaign strategy he would not spend time trying to sway the 47% of the population that vote based on entitlements and social programs,

For a really bright guy, this is a stupid and ignorant comment. I'm opposed to a number of entitlement programs, and I'm voting for Obama - because of his economic policies and his environmentalism.

[slucero]

lmao...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... dnY8r7_fLw

[Memorex]

Is far as the 47%, it was never about not caring about people. i really wish people could hear things and be objective. He was simply saying, and quite accurately, that as a campaign strategy he would not spend time trying to sway the 47% of the population that vote based on entitlements and social programs,

For a really bright guy, this is a stupid and ignorant comment. I'm opposed to a number of entitlement programs, and I'm voting for Obama - because of his economic policies and his environmentalism.

I was saying what he said. I'm not saying that 47% of the population vote for him because of entitlements. I misstated that. What I meant to say - as far as what I think Romney should have said or meant - is that 47% of the people will always vote for Obama or democrat and that number is absolutely unchangeable. Same on the right, though maybe less than 47%. Romney was saying he would go for those middle folks.

He was also saying - and I think quite accurately - that many of the people that vote for Obama or democrats do so because of the entitlements. Watch you tube for 15 minutes and you'll see that's fact. Just as a segment of the population will vote republican because of gay marriage and abortion. So they both play in that 7 to 8% range of people that can be swayed. And I think that play area will grow smaller and smaller.

Entitlements sound so damn good, don't they? 100,000 teachers. Security for Grandma and Grandpa through Social Security and Medicare. Food stamps and welfare for the poor families of the country. After school programs for the under-privileged. Universal healthcare provided by the government. I mean, who wouldn't want to live there?

BUT - all one has to do is look at California, my one-time home state. The more you give, the more expensive it gets. And the more expensive it gets, the more you have to take away from someone else. Now they have to find ways to pull back all these programs. And so they want the largest tax increase ever. But is no one paying attention to the fact that businesses and families are leaving the state in record numbers because taxes are too high, which reduce income?

So people like me would rather see a system where you have to really be down and out and unable to provide for yourself. It should be a little harder to weed out the lazy freeloaders and the people with a lexus and an iphone.

The single greatest reason for all of this is a lack of parenting and the shift in our kids' culture. But the government should not play surrogate mommy and prolong the problem.

[Memorex]

That said, guys like me also want to protect individual freedoms, including the more liberal views on social issues. I'd like to make sure this country does not discriminate against anybody except criminals. I do not believe in any way shape or form that there is some war on women. That's just dumb. I think it is simply a difference of ideas. Hell, the white house and many democrat organizations pay women less for equal jobs. That has to stop on all sides.

I believe if two people are in love and want to tie the knot, no matter what sex they are, go for it. Who cares? And if someone is worried about what rights that gives them, well that's just hooey. Name me one right that a married person gets that a partner shouldn't get. Just one and I will tell you why that's bullshit.

[tater1977]

When Obama got elected didn't he say something to the effect of..if he didn't get the job done..he would be a 1 term prez?
So going by that & I don't think he got the job done...will give the other guy 1 term..to see if he can get the job done..& if he doesn't...Goodbye Charlie er...Mitt next election...
Easy choice for me...just quite blaming the other side...shut your mouth & just do it...

[RedWingFan]

When Obama got elected didn't he say something to the effect of..if he didn't get the job done..he would be a 1 term prez?
So going by that & I don't think he got the job done...will give the other guy 1 term..to see if he can get the job done..& if he doesn't...Goodbye Charlie er...Mitt next election...
Easy choice for me...just quite blaming the other side...shut your mouth & just do it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAMdUNo2Cg

[The Sushi Hunter]

Lets blame the California refinery problems on Obama , why not ?

If that's all they blame Obama for, consider yourself lucky. The dems blamed Bush for everything under the sun during his entire presidency and then some for everything that didn't go their way, even stormy weather. Tards!

[The Sushi Hunter]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - R49/O47

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided.

These results are based upon nightly interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, only about two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were conducted after the presidential debate. Sunday morning’s update will be the first national polling based entirely upon post-debate interviews.

I'd like to believe those stats, but unfortunately I'm not yet convinced, at least that those stats represents the entire voter base. We have a ways to go yet I think. I'm looking forward to see how the next two Presidential debates go throughout this month. Also how the VP debate goes next week should provide some insight to how things are shaping up for either side.

[steveo777]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - R49/O47

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided.

These results are based upon nightly interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, only about two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were conducted after the presidential debate. Sunday morning’s update will be the first national polling based entirely upon post-debate interviews.

I'd like to believe those stats, but unfortunately I'm not yet convinced, at least that those stats represents the entire voter base. We have a ways to go yet I think. I'm looking forward to see how the next two Presidential debates go throughout this month. Also how the VP debate goes next week should provide some insight to how things are shaping up for either side.

The problem is about 47 percent of voters are going to go to the news or the street for information to formulate their opinions, rather than go do a bit of research. The average Joe just doesn't really do "due diligence". I'm here to say that most people who are going to vote for Obama are NOT drilling deep enough for truth, or simply don't want to face it or even admit it. The man simply didn't deliver on the sale he made to America when he was elected.

Issues to wit:
Immigration law enforcement (less people deported for breaking the law)
The deficit
Employment promises
Earned Income Tax Credits to illegal aliens has quadrupled. (Tax refunds paid, which exceed amounts of taxes collected in the first place)
Free medical aid to illegals and their babies
Food stamps are at the largest issuance since after the great depression
Unemployment has not decreased, no matter what the administration wants us to believe. (just campaign babble)
Aid to the Muslim brotherhood, totaling billions of dollars, given to people who hate us, want to kill us and mock us by burning our flags....and embassies.
Creating a haven for entitlement for dead beats

[RedWingFan]

Obama voters.

http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/video ... D=23834113

[Seven Wishes2]

The Vegas Review Journal is endorsing Romney? THE VRJ? Wow. Obama's fucked.

Seriously, the rest of your numbers are cooked in Rasmussen jizz. Get over your bullshit, already.

[Monker]

The Vegas Review Journal is endorsing Romney? THE VRJ? Wow. Obama's fucked.

Seriously, the rest of your numbers are cooked in Rasmussen jizz. Get over your bullshit, already.

No, Rassmussen has it tied today at 48/48. Pew has seen a 12 point swing to the right from last week when O was up 8 to now down 4. Deal with it bro. O is going down, believe it playa.

Funny you quote Pew only when it gets close...since it is the 'other' poll that "got it right" last time

The bottom line is the swing towards Romney wasn't that big...not big enough to win it all. And, according your own poll quotes, the bounce has already started to swing back, up by two and now tied, as so much of what Romney now being seen to be misleading or flat out lies. He may have won the debate, but the statements he made doing so may have cost him more then he gained.l

[Seven Wishes2]

He's still getting thrashed on the electoral maps. Rasmussen is FartFinder's viagra.

[Monker]

He's still getting thrashed on the electoral maps. Rasmussen is FartFinder's viagra.

Exactly...I said that after the conventions. I just don't see how Romney can win enough swing states to take the elections. Obama will have to blow the debates to lose. Well, he blew one. It hurt him by one or two points, but not enough to lose the election. If he loses another then I think it will be a close election but Obama will lose. If he loses another, then he'll lose decisively.

The VP debate doesn't matter much...either Ryan will keep things on course, or Biden will turn things back on track for Obama...it's more likely that it won't change anything.l

[steveo777]

Romney will be the next POTUS. Get used to this idea and quit turning a blind eye to Obama's downfalls. The focus this week and next should shift to his poor handling, as well as covering up what really happened in Libya. Romney and crew should jump all over this, if they know how to play.

[Monker]

Romney will be the next POTUS. Get used to this idea and quit turning a blind eye to Obama's downfalls. The focus this week and next should shift to his poor handling, as well as covering up what really happened in Libya. Romney and crew should jump all over this, if they know how to play.

Dude, as it sits right now, Romney can't win. If he's the next President, it will be for the election in 2016.

Of course Romney fans only want to focus on Obama's negatives...because Romney is so all over the place with his ideas and statements that it is impossible to define what he IS for. EVERYTHING he talks about contradicts something he said previously. That is what the Democrats need to hammer home, and the 47% statement.

Romney doesn't want to 'really' say what he is about because when he does, he offends his base (ie: no tax cuts for the wealthy), or he scares moderates (ie: no health care for those with pre-existing conditions...which he said, "you should have had insurance BEFORE you got sick.")

So, he tries to appease both and he flip flops - constantly. So, nobody REALLY knows what he is for. If Obama can make this point - the election is not even going to be close.

THAT is what the Biden and then Obama need to talk about. Know his past statements and call him out on it in the debates.

Libya is NOT a winning issue. It did nothing for Romney, really. I'm sure it will be brought up...but it's not going to be a game changer.

[steveo777]

Romney will be the next POTUS. Get used to this idea and quit turning a blind eye to Obama's downfalls. The focus this week and next should shift to his poor handling, as well as covering up what really happened in Libya. Romney and crew should jump all over this, if they know how to play.

Dude, as it sits right now, Romney can't win. If he's the next President, it will be for the election in 2016.

Of course Romney fans only want to focus on Obama's negatives...because Romney is so all over the place with his ideas and statements that it is impossible to define what he IS for. EVERYTHING he talks about contradicts something he said previously. That is what the Democrats need to hammer home, and the 47% statement.

Romney doesn't want to 'really' say what he is about because when he does, he offends his base (ie: no tax cuts for the wealthy), or he scares moderates (ie: no health care for those with pre-existing conditions...which he said, "you should have had insurance BEFORE you got sick.")

So, he tries to appease both and he flip flops - constantly. So, nobody REALLY knows what he is for. If Obama can make this point - the election is not even going to be close.

THAT is what the Biden and then Obama need to talk about. Know his past statements and call him out on it in the debates.

Libya is NOT a winning issue. It did nothing for Romney, really. I'm sure it will be brought up...but it's not going to be a game changer.

Look, we already know what we got with Obama. Nothing. He caters the the entitlement crowd, will continue to spend beyond our means, if that is somehow possible. You think the balance sheets look bad now, he will treble it! Don't say I didn't tell you so, but if he gets in for another 4 years, the welfare rolls will grow by a third more and I'd bet the Earned Income Tax Credit paid to illegal aliens will surpass 25 billion dollars in his final year. Under his liberal policies, we will have at least 25 million illegals living in this country, almost 200% of what we have now. Voting will continue to be done by certain interest groups who are not even legalized to vote, but ID's aren't being checked. This is all getting ready to go exponential in growth and too many people don't seem to be concerned about it. It's a slap in the face to those who work hard and pay their fair share of taxes, buy medical insurance and live here legally. There are people here that are not ENTITLED to benefits and we all pay their way. Why isn't there more outrage?

[slucero]

Romney will be the next POTUS. Get used to this idea and quit turning a blind eye to Obama's downfalls. The focus this week and next should shift to his poor handling, as well as covering up what really happened in Libya. Romney and crew should jump all over this, if they know how to play.

Dude, as it sits right now, Romney can't win. If he's the next President, it will be for the election in 2016.

Of course Romney fans only want to focus on Obama's negatives...because Romney is so all over the place with his ideas and statements that it is impossible to define what he IS for. EVERYTHING he talks about contradicts something he said previously. That is what the Democrats need to hammer home, and the 47% statement.

Romney doesn't want to 'really' say what he is about because when he does, he offends his base (ie: no tax cuts for the wealthy), or he scares moderates (ie: no health care for those with pre-existing conditions...which he said, "you should have had insurance BEFORE you got sick.")

So, he tries to appease both and he flip flops - constantly. So, nobody REALLY knows what he is for. If Obama can make this point - the election is not even going to be close.

THAT is what the Biden and then Obama need to talk about. Know his past statements and call him out on it in the debates.

Libya is NOT a winning issue. It did nothing for Romney, really. I'm sure it will be brought up...but it's not going to be a game changer.

Look, we already know what we got with Obama. Nothing. He caters the the entitlement crowd, will continue to spend beyond our means, if that is somehow possible. You think the balance sheets look bad now, he will treble it! Don't say I didn't tell you so, but if he gets in for another 4 years, the welfare rolls will grow by a third more and I'd bet the Earned Income Tax Credit paid to illegal aliens will surpass 25 billion dollars in his final year. Under his liberal policies, we will have at least 25 million illegals living in this country, almost 200% of what we have now. Voting will continue to be done by certain interest groups who are not even legalized to vote, but ID's aren't being checked. This is all getting ready to go exponential in growth and too many people don't seem to be concerned about it. It's a slap in the face to those who work hard and pay their fair share of taxes, buy medical insurance and live here legally. There are people here that are not ENTITLED to benefits and we all pay their way. Why isn't there more outrage?

because unlike you, and me... and a few others.... the majority of the voters don't care..

1. They don't care that nearly 47 Million Americans are on food stamps (up from 32 million in 2008)
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2. They don't care that there are already 25 million illegals (not just Mexican either). There have been 8 amnesty programs since the 60's, the parties have always played ping pong with this issue... and if Romney wins he'll pander to the potential voters the same as Obama does/will if he gets re-elected.. but it will never get solved.... it's the gift that keeps on giving to both parties.... in the form of rhetoric to use against the opposing party.
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3. They don't care the 80% of the trading on Wall Street is now done by computer algorithm, That the Fed is buying 70% of all Treasuries, and is now buying MBS derivatives (remember those things that blew up)..
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4. They don't care that the purchasing power of the dollar has declined 83.7% since 1970.
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5. They don't care that Obama said he'd end the lobby, and repeal the Patriot Act (and neither will Romney)

They just don't care... and haven't for a loong time.. and the kicker is, just like Obama.. Romney won't change any of the above either.


As long as Joe Sheeple continues to get his Apple I-everything, ESPN sports, and Miss/Mrs Sheeple can still go to Macys, "Bread and circuses" will reign supreme, and as long as it says the right things (lies) and isn't ugly... a potted plant can be elected to the White House..


The people simply do not care...

[Monker]

Look, we already know what we got with Obama. Nothing. He caters the the entitlement crowd, will continue to spend beyond our means, if that is somehow possible. You think the balance sheets look bad now, he will treble it! Don't say I didn't tell you so, but if he gets in for another 4 years, the welfare rolls will grow by a third more and I'd bet the Earned Income Tax Credit paid to illegal aliens will surpass 25 billion dollars in his final year. Under his liberal policies, we will have at least 25 million illegals living in this country, almost 200% of what we have now. Voting will continue to be done by certain interest groups who are not even legalized to vote, but ID's aren't being checked. This is all getting ready to go exponential in growth and too many people don't seem to be concerned about it. It's a slap in the face to those who work hard and pay their fair share of taxes, buy medical insurance and live here legally. There are people here that are not ENTITLED to benefits and we all pay their way. Why isn't there more outrage?

There isn't more outrage because people believe that the above argument is partisan bullshit and W had a LOT to do with all of the above...and they do not blame it solely on Obama.

All of these dire predictions of the future are just crap. The economy hasn't been in recession for years...and has been steadily improving. Unemployment has steadily declined. The markets have fully recovered. All of which means people more people are working and the budget will improve...not be 'fixed' but improved.

And, NOBODY is 'entitled' to 'benefits'.

Your argument above is not even being made by Romney...because it's a losing battle - and he knows it.

[slucero]

Look, we already know what we got with Obama. Nothing. He caters the the entitlement crowd, will continue to spend beyond our means, if that is somehow possible. You think the balance sheets look bad now, he will treble it! Don't say I didn't tell you so, but if he gets in for another 4 years, the welfare rolls will grow by a third more and I'd bet the Earned Income Tax Credit paid to illegal aliens will surpass 25 billion dollars in his final year. Under his liberal policies, we will have at least 25 million illegals living in this country, almost 200% of what we have now. Voting will continue to be done by certain interest groups who are not even legalized to vote, but ID's aren't being checked. This is all getting ready to go exponential in growth and too many people don't seem to be concerned about it. It's a slap in the face to those who work hard and pay their fair share of taxes, buy medical insurance and live here legally. There are people here that are not ENTITLED to benefits and we all pay their way. Why isn't there more outrage?

There isn't more outrage because people believe that the above argument is partisan bullshit and W had a LOT to do with all of the above...and they do not blame it solely on Obama.

All of these dire predictions of the future are just crap. The economy hasn't been in recession for years...and has been steadily improving. Unemployment has steadily declined. The markets have fully recovered. All of which means people more people are working and the budget will improve...not be 'fixed' but improved.

And, NOBODY is 'entitled' to 'benefits'.

Your argument above is not even being made by Romney...because it's a losing battle - and he knows it.

According to the ECRI (Economic Cycle Research Institute) considered the leading authority on recession, we're already in recession. But as with all recessions, the measure is in arrears..

Wall Street is largely disconnected from Main Street. The DOW is no longer a good measure of the health of the economy. Wall Street looks good due to the massive Fed Banking bailout... none of which has hit the Main Street (real economy).. because its the only thing keeping the banking balance sheets in the black. If the mark-to-market GAAP rule was reinstated and the banks were forced "Mark to market" value the loans they have on their books and they'd be insolvent. BofA, Wells Fargo. We have technically low inflation because monetary velocity is low or nonexistent, this is due to the cash sitting on bank balance sheets not being lent into t he real economy.

Absent the 3 Trillion on the Feds balance sheet, and the nearly 12 Trillion that has been pumped out to world central banks via currency swaps.. and you'd have DOA economies on a grand scale. Don't forget the the Fed is expanding it's balance sheet by another 2 - 3 Trillion through 2015, and for the 1st time in its history has put no end date on that expansion.

Unemployment at 7.8% (U-3) is one of 6 measurements and not accurate as it does not count those who are no longer receiving benefits, or have given up looking. The one measurement that is "all inclusive" is the U-6 measure, and that is 14.9%. However if we simply adjusted for a Labor Force Participation Rate average reflecting growth (because the Labor Force Participation Rate is at a 30 year low) then the real U-3 number is 12% and the U-6 number is north of 20%. Calculating using the Clinton era methodology renders the same results. The current unemployment gain was the result of 800k in part time jobs, and 600k in government hiring in the last 2 months.

Trillions of dollars were lost between 2008 and now.. and trillions have been created by the Fed to replace them.. simply netting the loss out. None of this is the product of demand, or productive activity. Remove it from the economy and what is left is a negative, not a positive.


We aren't climbing out of the hole, the hole is being made larger (wider) than the rate that the bottom is being raised.

[Behshad]

Just a tip. You guys that are saying that Mitt just stood up there and lied in the debate, flip floped, told whoppers and pulled it out his ass remember this.

Gallup has it 72 to 20 for Romney
CNN had it 67 to 25 for Romney


you guys, Monk and 7 and B.....you're that 22.5%


People aren't buying O's bullshit right now. He's the one who has to turn his ship around, not Romney.

Dude , nice try to put your twisted spin to this.
Those polls above we're about who won the debate not who's the better candidate for the job. Only a fool would say the Romney lost the debate. But how Romney won the debate is the key. He showed his skills at being a great politician by standing there and lying. He said the opposite of what he has promoted , just to win the debate. And he succeeded. The polls you have there are correct. Majority of people saw Romney win a debate , but they also witnessed how he won and it revealed his character
People are watching Romney's every move. It'll be interesting which Romney will show up at the next debate : middle class Romney or corporate Romney

[conversationpc]

Just a tip. You guys that are saying that Mitt just stood up there and lied in the debate, flip floped, told whoppers and pulled it out his ass remember this.

Gallup has it 72 to 20 for Romney
CNN had it 67 to 25 for Romney


you guys, Monk and 7 and B.....you're that 22.5%


People aren't buying O's bullshit right now. He's the one who has to turn his ship around, not Romney.

Dude , nice try to put your twisted spin to this.
Those polls above we're about who won the debate not who's the better candidate for the job. Only a fool would say the Romney lost the debate. But how Romney won the debate is the key. He showed his skills at being a great politician by standing there and lying. He said the opposite of what he has promoted , just to win the debate. And he succeeded. The polls you have there are correct. Majority of people saw Romney win a debate , but they also witnessed how he won and it revealed his character
People are watching Romney's every move. It'll be interesting which Romney will show up at the next debate : middle class Romney or corporate Romney

Here's how Romney won the debate...



DENVER—Saying that he wasn’t going to take any shit tonight and that the debate podiums “looked just as fucking lame as all the dressed-up suits in this godforsaken hellhole of a room,” Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney appeared tonight at the University of Denver’s Magness Arena as Ronnie Ferocious, the aggressive, no-rules punk-rock persona he has reportedly adopted for his three debates against President Barack Obama.

Wearing a sleeveless cutoff suit jacket, tight leather pants, and a blue tie knotted around his head of spiky, red-white-and-blue-streaked hair, Romney swaggered on stage, took his position beside Obama, and ordered debate moderator Jim Lehrer to “fucking do this already.”

“You know what? I’ll ask the first question,” the former Massachusetts governor said before putting out his cigarette on his forearm and flicking the butt at Lehrer. “What kind of little shit show do we have here this evening, folks? That’s my question. Because from where I’m standing, seems like a big ol’ shit show. And Lehrer, shut your fat mouth when Ronnie Ferocious is talking, or I’ll pound your goddamn face in.”

“As for you, Mr. President, you can wipe that smug grin off your face or I can do it for you,” he added before sticking out his diamond-pierced tongue and wagging it at everyone in the auditorium. “I don’t need any of that ‘Forward’ shit from you tonight.”

After he signaled sound technicians to cut the Dead Kennedys' track blasting from the speakers and kissed his large bald eagle tattoo, Romney proceeded to offer his opening remarks on domestic policy, a low 45-second moan that turned into a high-pitched howl, which political analysts speculate may have been about health care, discretionary spending and entitlements, gay marriage, the Dream Act, or some kind of food or taxes.

When asked by Lehrer to elaborate on his response, Romney dropped his head in silence for five seconds before taking a swig of bourbon, kicking over his podium, and marching up to the moderator’s table.

“Where the hell do you get off, huh?” Romney asked Lehrer before tossing his empty flask on the table and head-butting the journalist in the forehead. “You wanna ask Ronnie a question? Do you?”

“Here’s what I think about raising taxes on the nation’s top 2 percent of earners,” he said before grabbing his crotch and performing a jerk-off motion with his hand. “Suck on that.”

While very few were aware Romney would adopt an alter ego for the debates, sources confirmed that loud music was heard blaring from the candidate’s dressing room two hours before he was scheduled to take the stage. At approximately 7:30 p.m., three blond women dressed in short miniskirts and red leather tube tops entered the room carrying multiple bottles of Jack Daniel’s.

At one point, Ferocious was observed throwing a chair through the dressing room mirror.

“You can all go to hell,” a visibly intoxicated Romney told the debate audience. “Straight to bloody hell, especially if you reelect President Obama, who would give us nothing more than four more years of a stagnant economy, constant apologies for American values at home and abroad, and a fiscally irresponsible approach to bringing down our national debt.”

Romney then began barking like a dog right in President Obama’s face.

According to Romney’s staff, Ronnie Ferocious is a tough-love candidate who accurately represents the Republican nominee’s hardcore stance on both improving the economy and fighting for middle-class Americans.

“I would say Ronnie is a cross between Sid Vicious and Ronald Reagan,” Romney adviser Jim Talent said of the Ferocious persona, which Romney conceived of several days ago when, during a bus ride through Nevada, he began painting his fingernails with black nail polish. “He has a pro-business, pro-growth agenda, but a nihilistic, apathetic disdain for big-government excess and poor job-growth initiatives.”

“And most important, deep down under his hardened punk-rock exterior, and through the haze of alcohol and cigarette smoke, Ronnie has a really sweet soul and a huge heart,” he added.

Over Twitter, debate watchers expressed measured approval of the brash new doppelgänger. While some felt his reckless energy and heavily tattooed appearance were too extreme for a political leader, others admired his bold initiative, particularly when he slammed a glass tumbler on the podium and told the audience he would “drink anything [they] put in this cup. Especially piss.”

“On the one hand, Ronnie Ferocious isn’t as composed as Obama,” undecided Colorado voter Brendan Thompson said after an early question in which Romney strutted to the back of the auditorium, leaned against the wall, and said, “I’ll stand wherever the fuck I want to stand.” “But at the same time, I think he could be just what the country needs right now. Yeah, I guess I like Ronnie Ferocious.”

At press time, Romney called for a profusely bleeding Lehrer to either move forward with the debate or “man up and punch [him] in the balls.”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-r ... -fo,29789/

[Behshad]

Just a tip. You guys that are saying that Mitt just stood up there and lied in the debate, flip floped, told whoppers and pulled it out his ass remember this.

Gallup has it 72 to 20 for Romney
CNN had it 67 to 25 for Romney


you guys, Monk and 7 and B.....you're that 22.5%


People aren't buying O's bullshit right now. He's the one who has to turn his ship around, not Romney.

Dude , nice try to put your twisted spin to this.
Those polls above we're about who won the debate not who's the better candidate for the job. Only a fool would say the Romney lost the debate. But how Romney won the debate is the key. He showed his skills at being a great politician by standing there and lying. He said the opposite of what he has promoted , just to win the debate. And he succeeded. The polls you have there are correct. Majority of people saw Romney win a debate , but they also witnessed how he won and it revealed his character
People are watching Romney's every move. It'll be interesting which Romney will show up at the next debate : middle class Romney or corporate Romney

Here's how Romney won the debate...

Good one Dave !

[Behshad]

From that last link of Rassmussen..

Forty-six percent (46%) of these Swing State voters are now “certain” they will vote for Romney and will not change their minds. Forty percent (40%) are certain they will vote for the president.

That is a devestating number for The Won.

WOW. I think Obama should just cancel the debates and call it quits. At this rate there is no way he can get re-elected .