President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[The Sushi Hunter]

Biden instantly shifted the blame off to the U.S. Intelligence agency without missing a beat. He's one salty dog.

[Behshad]

Hey Monker, obviously you're not following the more important development right now in regards to "requests for more diplomatic security in Libya" that Biden, during last night's VP debate, flat out denied knowing anything about before the 9-11 terrorist attack.

Biden and Obama may not have known, but that's really silly to say and he should have come back with a more diplomatic response.

In any case - Hilary should resign. I don;t say it lightly, but this and the lies afterwards are a complete failure. Those that don't care about what our nation does to protect people or get them killed ought not vote.

As far as the president, I knew the first or second day that it was a terrorist attack. Not a guess, but based on what was being said. For he and his staff to go out and say it was over a video is insulting. Disgraceful. He owes people an apology.

You want a solution , it's real simple : any of these countries like Libya or Egypt , close down our embassy , bring our people home and make sure we cut off any and all financial aid to them. Then we have not only saved our people's lives , but also our money

[Memorex]

Biden instantly shifted the blame off to the U.S. Intelligence agency without missing a beat. He's one salty dog.

But in fairness - it is their fault. They knew what was up. So they say they could see it unfold in real time.

If i was the president on 9/11 and there was an attack unfolding in real time where our people were killed, I better know about it before anyone else. And then because of the particular day, I would address the American people and let them know we will kill the bastards that did this. Instead, they talk about some stupid movie trailer from someone that is worse at movie making than me, which further inflames the region. So instead of rallying the region against the terrorists, we rally them against America. Awesome.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Well that might be extreme maybe. I think it's wise to maintain some dialog with them, especially countries over there. If we cut off all dialog, we don't know what they are up to. We need to know what they are up to in order to prevent the unexpected, which from over there is usually acts of terror against America.

Hey Monker, obviously you're not following the more important development right now in regards to "requests for more diplomatic security in Libya" that Biden, during last night's VP debate, flat out denied knowing anything about before the 9-11 terrorist attack.

Biden and Obama may not have known, but that's really silly to say and he should have come back with a more diplomatic response.

In any case - Hilary should resign. I don;t say it lightly, but this and the lies afterwards are a complete failure. Those that don't care about what our nation does to protect people or get them killed ought not vote.

As far as the president, I knew the first or second day that it was a terrorist attack. Not a guess, but based on what was being said. For he and his staff to go out and say it was over a video is insulting. Disgraceful. He owes people an apology.

You want a solution , it's real simple : any of these countries like Libya or Egypt , close down our embassy , bring our people home and make sure we cut off any and all financial aid to them. Then we have not only saved our people's lives , but also our money

[The Sushi Hunter]

Yet another wacky adult Dem bullying a kid over politics makes the news again:

Wisconsin school bus driver has been fired after reportedly telling a 12-year-old boy he should have been aborted because his family had a Mitt Romney yard sign.

Bus company Durham School Services said in a statement that the driver in New Berlin, Wis. “engaged in a political debate with students” on Monday and “made an inappropriate remark to a child.”

“Durham immediately removed the driver from service pending an investigation, which resulted in the termination of the driver,” the statement said.

WISN 1130 cited blog Freedom Eden, which said the 78-year-old female driver had “been harassing the boy, making rude comments to him related to politics.” When the boy responded that President Barack Obama supports abortion, the driver allegedly replied, “Maybe your mom should have chosen abortion for you.”

Durham spokesman Blaine Krage told TheBlaze he could not confirm the exact comment the driver made, saying only it was during a “debate about politics.”

“There was a political debate and then the driver did make that inappropriate remark and then we took appropriate action,” Krage said.

He said the boy’s mother complained after the incident took place.

Krage added that the driver had been with the company for more than 20 years and had never received any complaints before.

Full statement from Durham School Services:

“Durham School Services was notified by a parent on Tuesday, Oct. 9, that a bus driver in New Berlin, Wisconsin, engaged in a political debate with students the previous day and made an inappropriate remark to a child. Durham immediately removed the driver from service pending an investigation, which resulted in the termination of the driver. Prior to this incident, the driver had an incident free record while serving the community as a Durham school bus driver for more than 20 years. Notwithstanding, the driver’s remark was insensitive and inappropriate. Durham has apologized to the family. We remain strongly committed to the safe transportation of students in the community.

[slucero]

I think both of them are clueless...

Let's hope you're around when I make my own inevitable bid for office.

hey I vote for you... you understand the spending problem iD sn't at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, but at 20th St. and Constitution Ave.

To be more precise 20th St and Constitution Avenue NW 20th Street and Constitution ave NE is the backside to a parking lot for RFK stadium. Was wondering why you see all sorts of people in Ron Paul T shirts and end the fed signs looking kind a lost down there every once in a while . LOL

Reading a great book right now.... Paper, Money, Collapse... got it as an ebook.. pretty good read..

Check out "What Has Government Done To Our Money"! by Murray Rothbard if you've never read it. Free from www.mises.org. An old classic- I believe it predicted absolutely everything that has happened to the economy in the past few years, and still makes the soundest arguments about why governments and central banks shouldnt't be meddling in monetary policy,

Thanks!... been meaning to give that a read...

[Rick]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-vicepresidency-of-joe-biden,18444/?slide=1

I don't care who you're voting for, that's funny stuff.

[tater1977]

Gun Shot Fired At Obama Campaign HQ In Colorado

http://www.nationalconfidential.com/201 ... -colorado/

A gun shot was fired towards President Obama’s campaign headquarters in Denver, Colorado.

The Denver Post reports that the incident happened on Friday afternoon. Campaign workers were in the office but nobody was hurt.

Police have a “vehicle of interest” in the shooting. Reporter Sam Levin posted a picture of a shattered window at the campaign office:

[tater1977]

'Million Muppet March' Planned in Washington D.C. to Support Public Broadcasting

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/m ... ird-378777

[slucero]

wow.. just reading reports that last week the FBI retrieved a video tape from the Benghazi mission, and it shows an organized attack. They also now have photos from a drone overhead covering the final hour of the attack.

The video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation. The footage, which was recovered from the site last week by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials.

I thought it was supposedly an "unorganized protest that turned into a riot"?

[conversationpc]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-vicepresidency-of-joe-biden,18444/?slide=1

I don't care who you're voting for, that's funny stuff.

This is funny, too... 'Diamond Joe' Biden Takes Over Onion Politics Twitter Feed During Vice Presidential Debate

Ryan Chugs Down Rhino Horn And Bull Semen Shake For Mid-Debate Boost

[RPM]

Here in the Chicago area, Obama is polling at 95% of the African American vote. They must be doing well.
Also , Jessie Jackson Jr. who hasnt been seen in four months, has been declared bi-polar, mentally ill,
depressed, and is now under federal investigation for mis-appropiation of funds is expected to easily
be re-elected by his happy constituents. Obama easily wins Illinois.

[steveo777]

Here in the Chicago area, Obama is polling at 95% of the African American vote. They must be doing well.
Also , Jessie Jackson Jr. who hasnt been seen in four months, has been declared bi-polar, mentally ill,
depressed, and is now under federal investigation for mis-appropiation of funds is expected to easily
be re-elected by his happy constituents. Obama easily wins Illinois.

Now there is racism at work for ya. These people are going to pick between black and white, nothing else. All they care about is getting one of their own in again, regardless of the consequences. Guaranteed they don't understand the issues.

[conversationpc]

Here in the Chicago area, Obama is polling at 95% of the African American vote. They must be doing well.
Also , Jessie Jackson Jr. who hasnt been seen in four months, has been declared bi-polar, mentally ill,
depressed, and is now under federal investigation for mis-appropiation of funds is expected to easily
be re-elected by his happy constituents. Obama easily wins Illinois.

Now there is racism at work for ya. These people are going to pick between black and white, nothing else. All they care about is getting one of their own in again, regardless of the consequences. Guaranteed they don't understand the issues.

That's the same percentage he got in 2008, so no change there, at least in the Chicago area.

[Behshad]

Here in the Chicago area, Obama is polling at 95% of the African American vote. They must be doing well.
Also , Jessie Jackson Jr. who hasnt been seen in four months, has been declared bi-polar, mentally ill,
depressed, and is now under federal investigation for mis-appropiation of funds is expected to easily
be re-elected by his happy constituents. Obama easily wins Illinois.

Now there is racism at work for ya. These people are going to pick between black and white, nothing else. All they care about is getting one of their own in again, regardless of the consequences. Guaranteed they don't understand the issues.

And clearly you don't either.

[Behshad]

Obama grabs wide lead among those who have already voted: Reuters/Ipsos poll

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney are neck and neck in opinion polls, but there is one area in which the incumbent appears to have a big advantage: those who have already cast their ballots.

[Behshad]

February 2013

[Behshad]

Obama grabs wide lead among those who have already voted: Reuters/Ipsos poll

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney are neck and neck in opinion polls, but there is one area in which the incumbent appears to have a big advantage: those who have already cast their ballots.

EXPOSED: Reuters/IPSOS Poll Over-Samples Dems by 13% – and LIES about Percentage!

http://www.varight.com/news/exposed-reu ... ercentage/

yea yea yeah , whatever makes you sleep at night

76% of Early Ohio Voters for Obama

[Behshad]

Obama grabs wide lead among those who have already voted: Reuters/Ipsos poll

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney are neck and neck in opinion polls, but there is one area in which the incumbent appears to have a big advantage: those who have already cast their ballots.

EXPOSED: Reuters/IPSOS Poll Over-Samples Dems by 13% – and LIES about Percentage!

http://www.varight.com/news/exposed-reu ... ercentage/

yea yea yeah , whatever makes you sleep at night

76% of Early Ohio Voters for Obama

OH Romney Campaign/e-mail

From: Rich Beeson

10/15/2012

Yesterday morning, a poll was released that claimed President Obama has a “big advantage” over Governor Romney among those who have already voted. This claim can easily be proved flawed and untrue.

To begin, it is important to outline a key distinction between how the campaigns are approaching the early vote. This can be determined not by asking “how many ballots have been cast;” instead, by asking “who has cast their ballot”? Many of the Democratic ballots are from high propensity voters who would almost certainly be voting on Election Day – meaning that President Obama is cannibalizing his turnout on November 6th. Governor Romney’s early voting effort has been, and will continue to be, focused on low propensity voters, which means his Election Day turnout will not be negatively impacted by the early vote program. First and foremost, only 5% of early voting has completed. In 2008, nearly 16,000,000 votes were cast before Election Day in the swing states. So far this cycle, just over 950,000 votes have been cast – or 6.01%. Therefore, 94% of all early votes have not even been cast yet. To claim a “big advantage” based off of a phase that’s just 6% complete is almost as absurd as predicting the outcome of a baseball game after the second out.

Setting timing aside, this was a national poll conducted online with a margin of error around 10%. National polls do not capture the actual state of the race (especially as it relates to swing states) and aside from the usual hesitations with online polls, the margin of error should raise serious questions as to the poll’s accuracy.

Further examination shows just 361 people account for the entire nation’s sample of early voters. Even worse, only 115 of the people (or 31.8%) make up the sample in the swing states. So not only is the sample extremely small – but it’s meant to represent the votes of over 950,000 people who have already cast a ballot.


Perhaps most troubling is that, on average, less than 10 people per swing state made up the sample. This is hardly an accurate representation of those who have already cast a ballot – and it certainly isn’t an adequate indicator of an “advantage” for one candidate over another. The largest sample for a swing state was Florida at just 22 people. And in the states of New Hampshire and New Mexico, just two people were surveyed. In Colorado, a state where approximately 79% of every vote cast in 2008 came before Election Day, the poll only surveyed four people – but what should baffle observers here is that early voting has not even begun for the general population yet (only military).

Despite what this poll has claimed, it is clear that Governor Romney is poised to over-perform among those who will vote before Election Day. In swing states that have party registration, ballots cast belonging to registered Democrats only hold a 6% margin over those cast by registered Republicans. Furthermore, of the approximate 6.7 million voters in those states who have requested ballots, but have yet to return them, Republicans narrowly edge Democrats (GOP: 2.12 million, DEM: 2.02).

Although still early in the process, our campaign continues to be encouraged by the initial requests and returns we have seen. That, coupled with the Governor’s momentum and his advantage among enthusiastic voters, undeniably puts President Obama in an extremely compromising situation with just over three weeks remaining in the election.

You swear by the polls when you like the figures , but once you see something you dont like, you (and your pubbi-buddies) cry and whine . No worries my friends, as I'd like to see how you will find an excuse to cry over the actual results in 22 days

[Memorex]

Libya. I know some on here think that 4 Americans dead and our own State Department and even our president lying to us is no big deal, but....

Why are there congressional hearings before I'm hearing about retaliation or capture of the people who did this. I know there are a few arrests, most of which are for people not likely involved. It seems to me that in the past, we have acted pretty swiftly when attacked. I'm not even hearing tough talk. The conversation seems to be about the cover up and not the actual act.

I feel angrier by the day on this. I think for a couple reasons. Number one, I believe the president and Hilary both knew what was happening while the attack was happening. You'd have to be pretty blind not to know what this was, at least by the fourth hour of the attack. And at the very least by that evening, US time.

So before he hits the podium to talk to Americans like a normal person, he runs off to a fundraiser. Then there is all this dis-information about a video, which is sad in and of itself.

The worst part, all this video talk 5, 6, 10 days later. Thankfully I believe they were purposefully misleading the public and not actually that fucking stupid. Cause if they were, God help us.

And then to march some lady out to say that the only reason this is a hot topic is because of Romney and Ryan???? WTF?? I am sure Romney and Ryan will make the most of what they can on this. But I am pissed about it and I haven't heard them mention it once. I'm sure they have, but since I don't listen to their speeches, I haven't heard it.

I'm really disappointed in Hilary. I thought she had done a pretty damn good job these past four years. You can see the work she has put in. But she went out there like a sheep and allowed this and she should resign. I know she is leaving after the election anyway, but this was completely unacceptable.

And the press needs to do their work on this to the point that Obama personally apologizes and admits whatever role he had in it. They won't and he won't, I'm sure.

[Memorex]

By the way, a few bombs targeting those responsible would obviously help Obama's reelection chances. He would have been far better served if he got up there, talked tough, and then followed through.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-mystery-of-benghazi.html?ref=libya&_r=0

[The Sushi Hunter]

Sort of like when I was over in Iraq the first time in '91. All the libs back in the U.S. were screaming that we were wrong for going up against the Iraqi National Guard but didn't say a word about how the Iraqi National Guard invading Kuwait had rounded up the men that they could catch and either killed them or locked them up and raped many of the Kuwaiti women, even little girls. Nope, not a word about that, only the bad American troops that shouldn't be in Iraq.

[Behshad]

Sort of like when I was over in Iraq the first time in '91. All the libs back in the U.S. were screaming that we were wrong for going up against the Iraqi National Guard but didn't say a word about how the Iraqi National Guard invading Kuwait had rounded up the men that they could catch and either killed them or locked them up and raped many of the Kuwaiti women, even little girls. Nope, not a word about that, only the bad American troops that shouldn't be in Iraq.

Dude,
the 91 war was done right. Bush Sr handled things great by getting involved, getting the job done and get out. kept the casualties and costs to the minimum. Of course his son had to go back and get us involved in a war that we shouldve avoided and focused more on Afghanistan.

[Memorex]

I have mixed feelings on war. But generally I feel as though if you kill your own people and the people are powerless, then countries like ours should get in there and remove the leaders. I often think what if our government turned on us. What if they started killing tens of thousands of us, just for standing up. How long would we want another country to wait before they came in and gave us a hand?

I think there is a huge amount of racism in a lot of this. To me, if you think the USA should not have gotten rid of Saddam, then you probably care a whole lot less about an Iraqi human than an American. And I just don't feel that way. I think all people should be free of violence. I care just as much for those Iraqi people as I do for my neighbors and so I think we actually don't do enough. Violence the way it happens in these countries should simply not be tolerated by any other country.

So yea - I'm glad we went to Iraq and I wish we would go all over until it stopped. Let people live without that fear for God's sake.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I have mixed feelings on war. But generally I feel as though if you kill your own people and the people are powerless, then countries like ours should get in there and remove the leaders. I often think what if our government turned on us. What if they started killing tens of thousands of us, just for standing up. How long would we want another country to wait before they came in and gave us a hand?

I think there is a huge amount of racism in a lot of this. To me, if you think the USA should not have gotten rid of Saddam, then you probably care a whole lot less about an Iraqi human than an American. And I just don't feel that way. I think all people should be free of violence. I care just as much for those Iraqi people as I do for my neighbors and so I think we actually don't do enough. Violence the way it happens in these countries should simply not be tolerated by any other country.

So yea - I'm glad we went to Iraq and I wish we would go all over until it stopped. Let people live without that fear for God's sake.

Our system helps prevent our government from turning against us because a guy can only be president up to twice max. When you got a government who's lead is in power for their entire life, like North Korea for example, that's when a "government" can turn on it's people easier. I do believe the American government is turning on the common sense and wholesome moral values that made America powerful in the beginning.

[Behshad]

I have mixed feelings on war. But generally I feel as though if you kill your own people and the people are powerless, then countries like ours should get in there and remove the leaders. I often think what if our government turned on us. What if they started killing tens of thousands of us, just for standing up. How long would we want another country to wait before they came in and gave us a hand?

I think there is a huge amount of racism in a lot of this. To me, if you think the USA should not have gotten rid of Saddam, then you probably care a whole lot less about an Iraqi human than an American. And I just don't feel that way. I think all people should be free of violence. I care just as much for those Iraqi people as I do for my neighbors and so I think we actually don't do enough. Violence the way it happens in these countries should simply not be tolerated by any other country.

So yea - I'm glad we went to Iraq and I wish we would go all over until it stopped. Let people live without that fear for God's sake.

Saddam used to kill his own people yes, but to this date there's people getting killed in Iraq daily as the aftermath of the war we started in 2003. So nothing is really better. Back then you would get killed over your political views, you still can get killed today, but add to that the car bombs in markets (or bombs falling from sky) and its easy to say that Iraqi's dont live safer lives even after the war.
We had no business in going there cause we need to take care of our own people first. The money we spend on Iraq, is what we could have and should have spent on OUR PEOPLE. The Iraqi people that you worry about so much are the same ones that would strap a bomb to themselves and kil our soldiers cause they see us as the invaders.

[Behshad]

Paul Ryan , December 2012

[Behshad]

The real story

As you can see in the photo above, Paul Ryan took some time out of his busy campaign schedule to lend a hand at a soup kitchen in Youngstown, Ohio, over the weekend. Now, because "the hall was empty of patrons and the volunteers appeared to have already cleaned up" by the time that Ryan got there, and because the pots Ryan scrubbed for the cameras "did not appear to be dirty," some might conclude that Ryan's appearance at the soup kitchen was nothing but a superficial, self-serving photo op designed to counter recent remarks from the GOP ticket that seem to show disdain for the poor. But no, the truth is that Ryan simply cares so much about America's non-income-tax-paying indigent that he thinks they deserve better than eating food from pots and pans that have only been cleaned once.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Enemy forces killed American troops. If the enemy was to be left unchecked, over time they'd group up and attack America, as this is exactly what they did in between the end of the '91 Gulf war until 9-11-01.

[Behshad]

Enemy forces killed American troops. If the enemy was to be left unchecked, over time they'd group up and attack America, as this is exactly what they did in between the end of the '91 Gulf war until 9-11-01.

Except they werent left unchecked. We had total controll over every move Saddam made.
Also, 9/11/01 had NOTHING to do with Saddam, but you keep ignoring that fact !

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/se ... ber11.usa2