President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[FinnFreak]

"In Tampa, the Republican argument against the president’s re-election was actually pretty simple — pretty snappy. It went something like this: "We left him a total mess. He hasn’t cleaned it up fast enough. So fire him and put us back in."" -- Bill Clinton


Sums it up.


John -

[FinnFreak]

And 65% of the world wants to see America go down. So now we have an idea why 65% would vote for BOzo. Terrorists both international and domestic don't like Bush either.

95% of the world have family living in the U.S. - they have NO interest in "seeing America going down".

They want some fairness in economic & foreign policy that affects their everyday lives.

And little less multi-national (U.S.) companies ripping off their natural resources.


John -

[The Sushi Hunter]

95% of the earth's population has relatives in America? Earth's population is estimated at 7.046 billion as of right now. Wouldn't 95% of 7.046 billion mean that America is more populated than it already is?

And just because they have relatives in America doesn't mean that the relatives back in the mother countries don't want America to collapse. Best case scenario is 95% of the people who have fled to America are from countries who would love to take America over or even take part in it's destruction.

[KenTheDude]

And 65% of the world wants to see America go down. So now we have an idea why 65% would vote for BOzo. Terrorists both international and domestic don't like Bush either.

95% of the world have family living in the U.S. - they have NO interest in "seeing America going down".

They want some fairness in economic & foreign policy that affects their everyday lives.

And little less multi-national (U.S.) companies ripping off their natural resources.


John -

Then why the hell are they supporting Obama?

[Behshad]

And 65% of the world wants to see America go down. So now we have an idea why 65% would vote for BOzo. Terrorists both international and domestic don't like Bush either.

95% of the world have family living in the U.S. - they have NO interest in "seeing America going down".

They want some fairness in economic & foreign policy that affects their everyday lives.

And little less multi-national (U.S.) companies ripping off their natural resources.


John -

Then why the hell are they supporting Obama?

Because they know Romney is another Bush! duh !

[Behshad]

If your buddy Romney gets voted in, four years from now when things are all fucked up, I bet you will put all the blame on Obama

What do you mean "when"? Things were "fucked up" during the previous eight years of the Bush administration and Obama has only made it worse.

So youre saying that four years from now (IF Romney gets in), things will not get any better !?

[Behshad]

95% of the earth's population has relatives in America? Earth's population is estimated at 7.046 billion as of right now. Wouldn't 95% of 7.046 billion mean that America is more populated than it already is?

And just because they have relatives in America doesn't mean that the relatives back in the mother countries don't want America to collapse. Best case scenario is 95% of the people who have fled to America are from countries who would love to take America over or even take part in it's destruction.

You are very stupid !!

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

And 65% of the world wants to see America go down. So now we have an idea why 65% would vote for BOzo. Terrorists both international and domestic don't like Bush either.

95% of the world have family living in the U.S. - they have NO interest in "seeing America going down".

They want some fairness in economic & foreign policy that affects their everyday lives.

And little less multi-national (U.S.) companies ripping off their natural resources.


John -

You have a fair point here. As an American who spends much of his time overseas and does business internationally, I agree. People outside of the US have perhaps a complicated view of the US but most certainly down want to see it go down. (Im not naive- yes of course some definitely do) And many realize that of course like any country the US often needs to do what is in its best interest. What they really want to see from the US is the attitude that George W Bush campaigned on in 2000 - that the US approach foreign policy with a little humility and be more circumspect. That idea in practice got lost in the last decade, sometimes of it for understandable reasons, but often with no good reason.

Also whilst I certainly don't like Barack Obama and think they are wrong/uneducated or what ever about it, I don't thing the fact that some in Europe/ overseas prefer him to be re-elected isn't necessarily based in anti Americanism.

[FinnFreak]

Why isn’t Obama more popular in America?

Perhaps much of the support for Obama is as a direct reaction to the presidency of George W. Bush. It is true that Obama’s approval ratings have plummeted since he inherited power, from the high 70’ to under 50 percent, but this is nothing compared to Bush who fell as low as 19 percent at one point during his second term. Despite the catastrophic tenancy of Bush, the Republican party still managed to retain 47 percentage of the vote in 2008.

Maybe we are “misunderestimating” former President Bush, but a large amount of our appreciation for Obama comes from the fact that he is the opposite of Bush; he is undoubtedly intelligent. For a start he is a respectful (and hence respected) man who values negotiation over force – it is no doubt favourable to many European’s opinion that he strongly opposed the USA’s invasion of Iraq.

Romney’s “gaffes” meanwhile are providing almost as much offence and hilarity as Bush’s did. His recent trip to Europe was frankly embarrassing and he continues to come out with lines such as, “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” Let’s just say that I am looking forward to the live television debates.

We can see that the majority of the voting is not down to the likeability or competence of the leader of the party. If a president can receive approval ratings as low as Bush’s, and his party is still able to seriously contend the subsequent election, we must look at the bigger picture.

http://worldnewstoday.co.uk/2012/09/why ... n-america/


John -

[The Sushi Hunter]

And 65% of the world wants to see America go down. So now we have an idea why 65% would vote for BOzo. Terrorists both international and domestic don't like Bush either.

95% of the world have family living in the U.S. - they have NO interest in "seeing America going down".

They want some fairness in economic & foreign policy that affects their everyday lives.

And little less multi-national (U.S.) companies ripping off their natural resources.

John -

Then why the hell are they supporting Obama?

Because they know Romney is another Bush! duh !

100% of the terrorist groups both internationally and domestic don't like Bush either. Tell us why that is Behshad.

[The Sushi Hunter]

95% of the earth's population has relatives in America? Earth's population is estimated at 7.046 billion as of right now. Wouldn't 95% of 7.046 billion mean that America is more populated than it already is?

And just because they have relatives in America doesn't mean that the relatives back in the mother countries don't want America to collapse. Best case scenario is 95% of the people who have fled to America are from countries who would love to take America over or even take part in it's destruction.

You are very stupid !!

How so?

[The Sushi Hunter]

Let's just take just Iran for example out of dozens more countries. How many Iranians are in America and how many Iranians in Iran want to see America go down? Just because Iranians in Iran have relatives who have fled to America, doesn't mean they don't want America to collapse or be destroyed. Fact is, if America does collapse, the first to go will be the military and all the republicans that you hate and blame so much. But also consider that if that happens, all of you will go down next. You think that they will come with open arms for the civilians? Yeah, they will elimiate the more stronger and work their way down until it's completely destroyed. Better hope that doesn't happen.

[FinnFreak]

A few weeks ago I met a couple of American girls in London, both at university in the city. One was a Democrat, one a Republican. After a quick chat about their views on the upcoming election, I asked the Republican girl why she will vote as such, to which she replied, “My Dad’s a Republican, we’ve always voted Republican.” I asked her whether she had a brain of her own. We didn’t get on very well after that. It stuns me that in this day and age, an intelligent young woman would vote based on family loyalties without questioning whether what she is voting for is the right thing to do. I am not saying that one side is right, and one side is wrong; my issue lies with the fact that she was unable to construct any argument for why she was voting as she was. In America, lines are drawn deeply into the sand. We can predict with near certainty whom 90 percent of the states are going to vote for, and due to the winner takes all nature of seats per state, we are left with just 3 “battleground states” where the election is won and lost.

http://worldnewstoday.co.uk/2012/09/why ... n-america/


John -

[The Sushi Hunter]

A few weeks ago I met a couple of American girls in London, both at university in the city. One was a Democrat, one a Republican. After a quick chat about their views on the upcoming election, I asked the Republican girl why she will vote as such, to which she replied, “My Dad’s a Republican, we’ve always voted Republican.” I asked her whether she had a brain of her own. We didn’t get on very well after that. It stuns me that in this day and age, an intelligent young woman would vote based on family loyalties without questioning whether what she is voting for is the right thing to do. I am not saying that one side is right, and one side is wrong; my issue lies with the fact that she was unable to construct any argument for why she was voting as she was. In America, lines are drawn deeply into the sand. We can predict with near certainty whom 90 percent of the states are going to vote for, and due to the winner takes all nature of seats per state, we are left with just 3 “battleground states” where the election is won and lost.

http://worldnewstoday.co.uk/2012/09/why ... n-america/


John -

Obviously he didn't have to ask the dem because he already knew she doesn't have a brain.

Obama's campaign theme song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

[Behshad]

Let's just take just Iran for example out of dozens more countries. How many Iranians are in America and how many Iranians in Iran want to see America go down? Just because Iranians in Iran have relatives who have fled to America, doesn't mean they don't want America to collapse or be destroyed. Fact is, if America does collapse, the first to go will be the military and all the republicans that you hate and blame so much. But also consider that if that happens, all of you will go down next. You think that they will come with open arms for the civilians? Yeah, they will elimiate the more stronger and work their way down until it's completely destroyed. Better hope that doesn't happen.

This is why you are stupid!

I can guarantee you that 95% of Iranian want their own government to go down and not USA. You are so fucking brainwashed by onesided media that you cant even think for yourself . All your thoughts and ideas are based on PURE assumptions based on what youre spoonfed by the media daily and sadly youre not the only one.

[Behshad]

And 65% of the world wants to see America go down. So now we have an idea why 65% would vote for BOzo. Terrorists both international and domestic don't like Bush either.

95% of the world have family living in the U.S. - they have NO interest in "seeing America going down".

They want some fairness in economic & foreign policy that affects their everyday lives.

And little less multi-national (U.S.) companies ripping off their natural resources.

John -

Then why the hell are they supporting Obama?

Because they know Romney is another Bush! duh !

100% of the terrorist groups both internationally and domestic don't like Bush either. Tell us why that is Behshad.

Wrong again. Bush helped the entire family of worlds most dangerous terrorist, flee the country. So your 100% is not even close to accurate. And most terrorist do like Bush because he is the main reason that they can no roam freely in Iraq

[The Sushi Hunter]

Hey Behshad, your party's theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

[Behshad]

Hey Behshad, your party's theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

Didnt know I had a party , but I should be used to your assumptptions by now

[FinnFreak]

Let's just take just Iran for example out of dozens more countries. How many Iranians are in America and how many Iranians in Iran want to see America go down? Just because Iranians in Iran have relatives who have fled to America, doesn't mean they don't want America to collapse or be destroyed. Fact is, if America does collapse, the first to go will be the military and all the republicans that you hate and blame so much. But also consider that if that happens, all of you will go down next. You think that they will come with open arms for the civilians? Yeah, they will elimiate the more stronger and work their way down until it's completely destroyed. Better hope that doesn't happen.

This is why you are stupid!

I can guarantee you that 95% of Iranian want their own government to go down and not USA. You are so fucking brainwashed by onesided media that you cant even think for yourself . All your thoughts and ideas are based on PURE assumptions based on what youre spoonfed by the media daily and sadly youre not the only one.

These people call themselves Persian & are extremely proud of their several thousands of years old culture. The thing they miss most in the U.S. is that America doesn't have much of a culture to be proud about.

The president of Iran doesn't really have much power in Iran, other than being a foreign policy blowhorn - that's his job.

Defence..? - No.

Could HE start a war/attack against Israel..? - No.

Nuclear program..? - No.

Most Persians I've met consider him a total embarrassment.


John -

[Behshad]

Let's just take just Iran for example out of dozens more countries. How many Iranians are in America and how many Iranians in Iran want to see America go down? Just because Iranians in Iran have relatives who have fled to America, doesn't mean they don't want America to collapse or be destroyed. Fact is, if America does collapse, the first to go will be the military and all the republicans that you hate and blame so much. But also consider that if that happens, all of you will go down next. You think that they will come with open arms for the civilians? Yeah, they will elimiate the more stronger and work their way down until it's completely destroyed. Better hope that doesn't happen.

This is why you are stupid!

I can guarantee you that 95% of Iranian want their own government to go down and not USA. You are so fucking brainwashed by onesided media that you cant even think for yourself . All your thoughts and ideas are based on PURE assumptions based on what youre spoonfed by the media daily and sadly youre not the only one.

These people call themselves Persian & are extremely proud of their several thousands of years old culture. The thing they miss most in the U.S. is that America doesn't have much of a culture to be proud about.

The president of Iran doesn't really have much power in Iran, other than being a foreign policy blowhorn - that's his job.


Defence..? - No.


Could HE start a war/attack against Israel..? - No.


Nuclear program..? - No.


Most Persians I've met consider him a total embarrassment.



John -

Bingo !

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

A few weeks ago I met a couple of American girls in London, both at university in the city. One was a Democrat, one a Republican. After a quick chat about their views on the upcoming election, I asked the Republican girl why she will vote as such, to which she replied, “My Dad’s a Republican, we’ve always voted Republican.” I asked her whether she had a brain of her own. We didn’t get on very well after that. It stuns me that in this day and age, an intelligent young woman would vote based on family loyalties without questioning whether what she is voting for is the right thing to do. I am not saying that one side is right, and one side is wrong; my issue lies with the fact that she was unable to construct any argument for why she was voting as she was. In America, lines are drawn deeply into the sand. We can predict with near certainty whom 90 percent of the states are going to vote for, and due to the winner takes all nature of seats per state, we are left with just 3 “battleground states” where the election is won and lost.

http://worldnewstoday.co.uk/2012/09/why ... n-america/


John -

Look to be fair, Americans don't have a monopoly on this kind of nonsense. Kind of unfair to single them out for this kind of narrow thinking. I know a ton of Europeans who tend to not only adopt a pretty strict party affiliation and unthinking vote for their father's party. You always know for example that the northeast of England is always going to vote for the Labour Party and the South East of England will vote Conservatives. Working with plenty of Europeans, I know that there are many of them who have their political views defined by the mainstream media and dominant political apparatus and don't consider an alternative world view. As a matter of fact I sometimes think they are more closeminded. Being narrow minded, uninformed , and provincial in ones thinking happens everywhere.

[FinnFreak]

A few weeks ago I met a couple of American girls in London, both at university in the city. One was a Democrat, one a Republican. After a quick chat about their views on the upcoming election, I asked the Republican girl why she will vote as such, to which she replied, “My Dad’s a Republican, we’ve always voted Republican.” I asked her whether she had a brain of her own. We didn’t get on very well after that. It stuns me that in this day and age, an intelligent young woman would vote based on family loyalties without questioning whether what she is voting for is the right thing to do. I am not saying that one side is right, and one side is wrong; my issue lies with the fact that she was unable to construct any argument for why she was voting as she was. In America, lines are drawn deeply into the sand. We can predict with near certainty whom 90 percent of the states are going to vote for, and due to the winner takes all nature of seats per state, we are left with just 3 “battleground states” where the election is won and lost.

http://worldnewstoday.co.uk/2012/09/why ... n-america/


John -

Look to be fair, Americans don't have a monopoly on this kind of nonsense. Kind of unfair to single them out for this kind of narrow thinking. I know a ton of Europeans who tend to not only adopt a pretty strict party affiliation and unthinking vote for their father's party. You always know for example that the northeast of England is always going to vote for the Labour Party and the South East of England will vote Conservatives. Working with plenty of Europeans, I know that there are many of them who have their political views defined by the mainstream media and dominant political apparatus and don't consider an alternative world view. As a matter of fact I sometimes think they are more closeminded. Being narrow minded, uninformed , and provincial in ones thinking happens everywhere.

True.


And it's dangerous as hell... even more so, in the U.S. IMHO.



John -

[The Sushi Hunter]

Let's just take just Iran for example out of dozens more countries. How many Iranians are in America and how many Iranians in Iran want to see America go down? Just because Iranians in Iran have relatives who have fled to America, doesn't mean they don't want America to collapse or be destroyed. Fact is, if America does collapse, the first to go will be the military and all the republicans that you hate and blame so much. But also consider that if that happens, all of you will go down next. You think that they will come with open arms for the civilians? Yeah, they will elimiate the more stronger and work their way down until it's completely destroyed. Better hope that doesn't happen.

This is why you are stupid!

I can guarantee you that 95% of Iranian want their own government to go down and not USA. You are so fucking brainwashed by onesided media that you cant even think for yourself . All your thoughts and ideas are based on PURE assumptions based on what youre spoonfed by the media daily and sadly youre not the only one.

These people call themselves Persian & are extremely proud of their several thousands of years old culture. The thing they miss most in the U.S. is that America doesn't have much of a culture to be proud about.

The president of Iran doesn't really have much power in Iran, other than being a foreign policy blowhorn - that's his job.


Defence..? - No.


Could HE start a war/attack against Israel..? - No.


Nuclear program..? - No.


Most Persians I've met consider him a total embarrassment.



John -

Bingo !

This would only apply to the Iranians who have fled to American and not the vast majority of Iranians in Iran or other countries around the world.

[The Sushi Hunter]

GALLUP: R 50% O 46%...

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I believed this in 08' when BOzo was running for office. I had watched a few of his campaign speeches and he completely sucked.

The issue that is funny in regards to Biden last week was how he was so convinced that Iran would never deliver nuclear weapons on target. He said they could get the nuclear ingredients but that they didn't have anything to put it into. Well, Iran has lots of borders and I'm sure once they get the enriched uranium up to par, they’d find a way to get the rest of what they needed. I guarantee you that if Cuba was enriching uranium we’d be on their ass.

[Behshad]

Let's just take just Iran for example out of dozens more countries. How many Iranians are in America and how many Iranians in Iran want to see America go down? Just because Iranians in Iran have relatives who have fled to America, doesn't mean they don't want America to collapse or be destroyed. Fact is, if America does collapse, the first to go will be the military and all the republicans that you hate and blame so much. But also consider that if that happens, all of you will go down next. You think that they will come with open arms for the civilians? Yeah, they will elimiate the more stronger and work their way down until it's completely destroyed. Better hope that doesn't happen.

This is why you are stupid!

I can guarantee you that 95% of Iranian want their own government to go down and not USA. You are so fucking brainwashed by onesided media that you cant even think for yourself . All your thoughts and ideas are based on PURE assumptions based on what youre spoonfed by the media daily and sadly youre not the only one.

These people call themselves Persian & are extremely proud of their several thousands of years old culture. The thing they miss most in the U.S. is that America doesn't have much of a culture to be proud about.

The president of Iran doesn't really have much power in Iran, other than being a foreign policy blowhorn - that's his job.


Defence..? - No.


Could HE start a war/attack against Israel..? - No.


Nuclear program..? - No.


Most Persians I've met consider him a total embarrassment.



John -

Bingo !

This would only apply to the Iranians who have fled to American and not the vast majority of Iranians in Iran or other countries around the world.

Once again you are 100% wrong. this would apply to 95% of Iranians, regardless of where they live.

[Memorex]

This whole Candy Crowley thing - I realize neither candidate wants to be nailed down too much on specifics, but come on. You just look scared by asking that she simply sit there. If you can't answer the questions, don't run. I know she leans toward Obama, but she's a good reporter, an intelligent human, and supposed to help people distinguish between these two (though I suspect there is not much distinction).

So I want follow up questions. I want more than "Can you find my brother a job?" I don't want it to be so bad that it becomes ugly. I know you can't give all the details in 90 minutes. But a few follow-ups would be nice.

Anyway, I am certain she will do what is instinctive to her. Sad though that the moderator becomes the story yet again.

[Behshad]

TONIGHT'S DEBATE 'DO OR DIE' FOR OBAMA...

Questioners Face $4,492 Tax Increase Next Year if Romney wins...

+1

[The Sushi Hunter]

TONIGHT'S DEBATE 'DO OR DIE' FOR OBAMA...

Questioners Face $4,492 Tax Increase Next Year...

BOzo will be coming out balls swinging. Again, only if that Biden balls transplant takes hold without BOzo's body rejecting it first.

[Behshad]

TONIGHT'S DEBATE 'DO OR DIE' FOR OBAMA...

Questioners Face $4,492 Tax Increase Next Year...

BOzo will be coming out balls swinging. Again, only if that Biden balls transplant takes hold without BOzo's body rejecting it first.

They are both using Hillary's balls.

We all know what balls Romney will be using

[Memorex]

Rachel Maddows?