President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[The_Noble_Cause]

It's looking like they did. I suspect this is really going to fall apart for the administration if they are re-elected.

Most Americans can't find Long Island on a map, much less Libya. An imbroglio halfway around the world is not going to bring this administration to it's knees. It's just not.

[The Sushi Hunter]

It's looking like they did. I suspect this is really going to fall apart for the administration if they are re-elected.

Most Americans can't find Long Island on a map, much less Libya. An imbroglio halfway around the world is not going to bring this administration to it's knees. It's just not.

It's the principles that will.

[Behshad]

Gallup , Registered Voters


Obama 48% +1

Romney 47% -1

Who's reporting that?

Behshad apparently, since Gallup has Romney up by 3.

Go back again, open your eyes and look at REGISTERED VOTERS !

[Memorex]

It's looking like they did. I suspect this is really going to fall apart for the administration if they are re-elected.

Most Americans can't find Long Island on a map, much less Libya. An imbroglio halfway around the world is not going to bring this administration to it's knees. It's just not.

Most Senators can.

[conversationpc]

Gallup , Registered Voters


Obama 48% +1

Romney 47% -1

Who's reporting that?

Behshad apparently, since Gallup has Romney up by 3.

Go back again, open your eyes and look at REGISTERED VOTERS !

Likely Voters is a more accurate representation than registered voters. There are TONS of registered voters who don't vote. That's why the daily average on realclearpolitics calculates the averages of the polls based on likely voters.

[Behshad]

Gallup , Registered Voters


Obama 48% +1

Romney 47% -1

Who's reporting that?

Behshad apparently, since Gallup has Romney up by 3.

Go back again, open your eyes and look at REGISTERED VOTERS !

Likely Voters is a more accurate representation than registered voters. There are TONS of registered voters who don't vote. That's why the daily average on realclearpolitics calculates the averages of the polls based on likely voters.

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

[conversationpc]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

[Behshad]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

Youre talkin about context , Dave , when you cant even read what I posted : REGISTERED VOTERS in my original poll ? I am surprised that after so many years online, you still dont understand that the wink doesnt always mean "just kiddin" , but it also means " you will see my friend "

[conversationpc]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

Youre talkin about context , Dave , when you cant even read what I posted : REGISTERED VOTERS in my original poll ? I am surprised that after so many years online, you still dont understand that the wink doesnt always mean "just kiddin" , but it also means " you will see my friend "

Yes, I read what you wrote, dumbass. Why do you think I attempted to explain that polls of registered voters are typically not as accurate as likely voters? DUHHHHHH!!!!! The wink does NOT mean "you'll see".

[Behshad]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

Youre talkin about context , Dave , when you cant even read what I posted : REGISTERED VOTERS in my original poll ? I am surprised that after so many years online, you still dont understand that the wink doesnt always mean "just kiddin" , but it also means " you will see my friend "

Yes, I read what you wrote, dumbass. Why do you think I attempted to explain that polls of registered voters are typically not as accurate as likely voters? DUHHHHHH!!!!! The wink does NOT mean "you'll see".

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

[KenTheDude]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

Youre talkin about context , Dave , when you cant even read what I posted : REGISTERED VOTERS in my original poll ? I am surprised that after so many years online, you still dont understand that the wink doesnt always mean "just kiddin" , but it also means " you will see my friend "

Yes, I read what you wrote, dumbass. Why do you think I attempted to explain that polls of registered voters are typically not as accurate as likely voters? DUHHHHHH!!!!! The wink does NOT mean "you'll see".

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

If the info you share indicates Obama is ahead or is going to win, then it is definitely NOT accurate!

[conversationpc]

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

You can start calling me a dumbass once you start using correct grammar and punctuation.

[Behshad]

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

You can start calling me a dumbass once you start using correct grammar and punctuation.

Dumbass !

[Behshad]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

Youre talkin about context , Dave , when you cant even read what I posted : REGISTERED VOTERS in my original poll ? I am surprised that after so many years online, you still dont understand that the wink doesnt always mean "just kiddin" , but it also means " you will see my friend "

Yes, I read what you wrote, dumbass. Why do you think I attempted to explain that polls of registered voters are typically not as accurate as likely voters? DUHHHHHH!!!!! The wink does NOT mean "you'll see".

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

If the info you share indicates Obama is ahead or is going to win, then it is definitely NOT accurate!

( <----- "you'll see " )

[conversationpc]

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

You can start calling me a dumbass once you start using correct grammar and punctuation.

Dumbass !

There should be no space between "Dumbass" and the exclamation point.

[KenTheDude]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

Youre talkin about context , Dave , when you cant even read what I posted : REGISTERED VOTERS in my original poll ? I am surprised that after so many years online, you still dont understand that the wink doesnt always mean "just kiddin" , but it also means " you will see my friend "

Yes, I read what you wrote, dumbass. Why do you think I attempted to explain that polls of registered voters are typically not as accurate as likely voters? DUHHHHHH!!!!! The wink does NOT mean "you'll see".

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

If the info you share indicates Obama is ahead or is going to win, then it is definitely NOT accurate!

( <----- "you'll see " )

And there shouldn't be a space between the "e" and the quotation mark either.

[Behshad]

Whatever makes you feel better. I am just pointing out that what I shared was not something I made up. It was from gallup and stay tuned for couple more days for the LIKELY voters to change as well as we enter the final week

OK...Again, why the winking emoticon here? It makes no sense except to indicate that you're just kidding, which I know you're not. Context, Behshad. You need to learn context.

Youre talkin about context , Dave , when you cant even read what I posted : REGISTERED VOTERS in my original poll ? I am surprised that after so many years online, you still dont understand that the wink doesnt always mean "just kiddin" , but it also means " you will see my friend "

Yes, I read what you wrote, dumbass. Why do you think I attempted to explain that polls of registered voters are typically not as accurate as likely voters? DUHHHHHH!!!!! The wink does NOT mean "you'll see".

Actually you're the DUMBASS, cause you read it AFTER it was pointed out to you, but you didnt pay attention the first time around when you tried to say that what I shared was not accurate !

If the info you share indicates Obama is ahead or is going to win, then it is definitely NOT accurate!

( <----- "you'll see " )

And there shouldn't be a space between the "e" and the quotation mark either.

The day that either of you two can speak, write and understand my first two languages flawlessly, is the day you can pick on my 3rd language grammar
Did you know that in most European languages you do have the space between exclamation/question mark ? Bet not .

[conversationpc]

The day that either of you two can speak, write and understand my first two languages flawlessly, is the day you can pick on my 3rd language grammar
Did you know that in most European languages you do have the space between exclamation/question mark ? Bet not .

Nope...Didn't know that and don't care. This is American English.

[Behshad]

The day that either of you two can speak, write and understand my first two languages flawlessly, is the day you can pick on my 3rd language grammar
Did you know that in most European languages you do have the space between exclamation/question mark ? Bet not .

Nope...Didn't know that and don't care. This is American English.

This is an international website, with Australian English

[The Sushi Hunter]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

[Behshad]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable that individuals such as Behshad and Monker wouldn't comment on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

Didnt you post this yesterday?

and didnt I comment on it ?

"The vote fraud is of course only from democrats and never ever by republicans"

[The Sushi Hunter]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable that individuals such as Behshad and Monker wouldn't comment on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

Didnt you post this yesterday?

and didnt I comment on it ?

"The vote fraud is of course only from democrats and never ever by republicans"

My bad, you commented and so did Monker. I just didn't see it before.

[Behshad]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable that individuals such as Behshad and Monker wouldn't comment on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

Didnt you post this yesterday?

and didnt I comment on it ?

"The vote fraud is of course only from democrats and never ever by republicans"

My bad, you commented and so did Monker. I just didn't see it before.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In Florida, Virginia and Indiana, voters have received phone calls that wrongly told them there was no need to cast a ballot in person on Election Day because they could vote by phone.

In Ohio and Wisconsin, billboards in mostly low-income and minority neighborhoods showed prisoners behind bars and warned of criminal penalties for voter fraud - an effort that voting rights groups say was designed to intimidate minority voters.

And across the nation, some employers - notably David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who help fund the conservative group Americans for Prosperity - are urging their workers to vote for Republican Mitt Romney for president.

Two weeks before what could be one of the closest presidential elections in U.S. history, efforts to mislead, intimidate or pressure voters are an increasingly prominent part of the political landscape. Analysts say tactics typically seen in the last few days before an election are already in play.

"We've seen an uptick in deceptive and intimidating tactics designed to prevent eligible Americans from voting," said Eric Marshall of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, who manages a coalition that has a telephone hot line (1-866-OUR-VOTE) that collects tips on alleged voter intimidation.

Democrats have been more vocal in complaining about such antics. They also cite groups linked to the conservative Tea Party movement that are training tens of thousands of people to monitor polling places on November 6 for voter fraud. The controversial plan has been criticized as an attempt to delay or discourage voting.

But Republicans also have been behind some of the complaints, which have been focused largely on the eight or so politically divided swing states that are likely to decide the race between Romney and Democratic President Barack Obama.

[The Sushi Hunter]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable that individuals such as Behshad and Monker wouldn't comment on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

Didnt you post this yesterday?

and didnt I comment on it ?

"The vote fraud is of course only from democrats and never ever by republicans"

My bad, you commented and so did Monker. I just didn't see it before.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In Florida, Virginia and Indiana, voters have received phone calls that wrongly told them there was no need to cast a ballot in person on Election Day because they could vote by phone.

In Ohio and Wisconsin, billboards in mostly low-income and minority neighborhoods showed prisoners behind bars and warned of criminal penalties for voter fraud - an effort that voting rights groups say was designed to intimidate minority voters.

And across the nation, some employers - notably David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who help fund the conservative group Americans for Prosperity - are urging their workers to vote for Republican Mitt Romney for president.

Two weeks before what could be one of the closest presidential elections in U.S. history, efforts to mislead, intimidate or pressure voters are an increasingly prominent part of the political landscape. Analysts say tactics typically seen in the last few days before an election are already in play.

"We've seen an uptick in deceptive and intimidating tactics designed to prevent eligible Americans from voting," said Eric Marshall of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, who manages a coalition that has a telephone hot line (1-866-OUR-VOTE) that collects tips on alleged voter intimidation.

Democrats have been more vocal in complaining about such antics. They also cite groups linked to the conservative Tea Party movement that are training tens of thousands of people to monitor polling places on November 6 for voter fraud. The controversial plan has been criticized as an attempt to delay or discourage voting.

But Republicans also have been behind some of the complaints, which have been focused largely on the eight or so politically divided swing states that are likely to decide the race between Romney and Democratic President Barack Obama.

No one really can see who is behind these calls or mailings. Could be another wacko just making the republicans look bad for all we know. In that video however, we see exactly who is saying what and where.....a lot of it within one of those Dem campaign centers.

[StevePerryHair]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable that individuals such as Behshad and Monker wouldn't comment on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

Didnt you post this yesterday?

and didnt I comment on it ?

"The vote fraud is of course only from democrats and never ever by republicans"

My bad, you commented and so did Monker. I just didn't see it before.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In Florida, Virginia and Indiana, voters have received phone calls that wrongly told them there was no need to cast a ballot in person on Election Day because they could vote by phone.

In Ohio and Wisconsin, billboards in mostly low-income and minority neighborhoods showed prisoners behind bars and warned of criminal penalties for voter fraud - an effort that voting rights groups say was designed to intimidate minority voters.

And across the nation, some employers - notably David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who help fund the conservative group Americans for Prosperity - are urging their workers to vote for Republican Mitt Romney for president.

Two weeks before what could be one of the closest presidential elections in U.S. history, efforts to mislead, intimidate or pressure voters are an increasingly prominent part of the political landscape. Analysts say tactics typically seen in the last few days before an election are already in play.

"We've seen an uptick in deceptive and intimidating tactics designed to prevent eligible Americans from voting," said Eric Marshall of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, who manages a coalition that has a telephone hot line (1-866-OUR-VOTE) that collects tips on alleged voter intimidation.

Democrats have been more vocal in complaining about such antics. They also cite groups linked to the conservative Tea Party movement that are training tens of thousands of people to monitor polling places on November 6 for voter fraud. The controversial plan has been criticized as an attempt to delay or discourage voting.

But Republicans also have been behind some of the complaints, which have been focused largely on the eight or so politically divided swing states that are likely to decide the race between Romney and Democratic President Barack Obama.

No one really can see who is behind these calls or mailings. Could be another wacko just making the republicans look bad for all we know. In that video however, we see exactly who is saying what and where.....a lot of it within one of those Dem campaign centers.

Republicans in Florida HIRED a consulting firm to register people. Fl dept of law enforcement found several forms to have fraudulent information. The fraud happened in several counties. The firm was then fired by our state republicans, after they were caught. Look it up. I'm too tired to find you links. How is there not evidence that some republicans pull the same stuff? Both sides are bad with this stuff.

[Behshad]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable that individuals such as Behshad and Monker wouldn't comment on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

Didnt you post this yesterday?

and didnt I comment on it ?

"The vote fraud is of course only from democrats and never ever by republicans"

My bad, you commented and so did Monker. I just didn't see it before.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In Florida, Virginia and Indiana, voters have received phone calls that wrongly told them there was no need to cast a ballot in person on Election Day because they could vote by phone.

In Ohio and Wisconsin, billboards in mostly low-income and minority neighborhoods showed prisoners behind bars and warned of criminal penalties for voter fraud - an effort that voting rights groups say was designed to intimidate minority voters.

And across the nation, some employers - notably David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who help fund the conservative group Americans for Prosperity - are urging their workers to vote for Republican Mitt Romney for president.

Two weeks before what could be one of the closest presidential elections in U.S. history, efforts to mislead, intimidate or pressure voters are an increasingly prominent part of the political landscape. Analysts say tactics typically seen in the last few days before an election are already in play.

"We've seen an uptick in deceptive and intimidating tactics designed to prevent eligible Americans from voting," said Eric Marshall of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, who manages a coalition that has a telephone hot line (1-866-OUR-VOTE) that collects tips on alleged voter intimidation.

Democrats have been more vocal in complaining about such antics. They also cite groups linked to the conservative Tea Party movement that are training tens of thousands of people to monitor polling places on November 6 for voter fraud. The controversial plan has been criticized as an attempt to delay or discourage voting.

But Republicans also have been behind some of the complaints, which have been focused largely on the eight or so politically divided swing states that are likely to decide the race between Romney and Democratic President Barack Obama.

No one really can see who is behind these calls or mailings. Could be another wacko just making the republicans look bad for all we know. In that video however, we see exactly who is saying what and where.....a lot of it within one of those Dem campaign centers.

Republicans in Florida HIRED a consulting firm to register people. Fl dept of law enforcement found several forms to have fraudulent information. The fraud happened in several counties. The firm was then fired by our state republicans, after they were caught. Look it up. I'm too tired to find you links. How is there not evidence that some republicans pull the same stuff? Both sides are bad with this stuff.

No, those are all democrats trying to make republicans look bad - ®© SushiHunter

[Monker]

The government doesn't create jobs....

So, if the government signs a billion dollar contract with General Dynamics or Lockhead, or whoever, no jobs are going to be created.

And, if those contracts are cut, no jobs are lost.

You are simply wrong.

Interesting that someone who rightfully points out that wars of the past ten years has been a drain on the economy suddenly supports the military industrial complex as job maker?!

There is a difference between the cost of a war and the yearly budgeted cost of building ships, planes, bayonets, and horses.

And, one of the arguments I made back then to how horrible a President W really is was war can be an economic stimulus on its own. But, the way we fought the Iraq war was silly. There was no call to Americans to produce and sacrifice for the good of the country. It was fought as invisibly as possible so no one could see the sacrifices...nobody except the national guard was asked to step up.

Sure, when the government signs a contract with General Dynamics jobs are created, and if we have sequestration next year (likely) jobs will be lost. But you need to understand that when the government spends money that money gets transferred out of the private sector- one less dollar spend by the government isn't used to invest produce , or create in the private sector. Do you think these business owners will just go away and become small vegetable farmers if there will be no govt contracts. No, they will innovate and create in the private sector.

These are needs the government has that must be filled in some way. An aircraft carrier has to be built so the government contracts somebody to build it. That means thousands of jobs and billions of dollars going back into the economy. If all government contracts to General Dynamics stop, I would expect thousands of people to go out of work, and executives to retire early as millionaires or go into politics...much like Mitt Romney did.

Of course you are going to say to me "So What one job is one job . And that govt spending has a multiplier effect that private spending wont?

No, I am going to say that the private sector has no business ordering aircraft carriers or stealth bombers or drones or anything like that to be built. These are companies that are largely dependent on government contracts and if those contracts disappear, so do the jobs. It is not something the private sector can pick up - because there is no need for the private sector to have what the government is asking them to produce.

Government contracting with its sealed bids and lowest cost bid evaluation, and the lack of effective oversight in contract execution encourages inefficiency along the line and what is called rent seeking (where a supplier/person hired of the contract takes the contract and money and doesn't work to add value).

Not my argument...the fact of the matter is there is ALWAYS going to be government contracting for various reasons. You can argue the process is flawed...what you can not argue is the contracts don't have to be there, or that they don't create jobs. Well, I spose you could try, but it won't work.

In the Short term- govt contracts create jobs, and short term cutting govt contracts cost jobs, yes.

General Dynamics has been around for over 50yrs. Doesn't seem very 'short term' to me.

But mid to long term you have an poorly balanced economy, with more inefficiency and higher overall unemployment.

The fact that General Dynamics has been such a huge success over the past couple decades contradicts what you say above.

I'm not making the argument that government contracts should be used as a tool to manager the economy....However, dropping or adding a large number of contracts DOES impact the economy. Therefore, you are wrong, as you admitted in the quote above - government CAN create jobs.

[Monker]

You'd think even a moron like Sushi would understand this. But I guess not.


Colin Powell is clarifying comments he made this weekend on Meet the Press to emphasize that he does not hire illegal immigrants.

News coverage of his appearance on the NBC Sunday talk show, such as a story by The Associated Press, reported that Powell said "illegal immigrants do essential work in the U.S. and that he has firsthand knowledge of that — because they fix his house."

In the interview , Powell said a path to legal status should be offered to illegal immigrants in the U.S. because they "are doing things we need done in this country."

He added: "They're all over my house, doing things whenever I call for repairs, and I'm sure you've seen them at your house. We've got to find a way to bring these people out of the darkness and give them some kind of status."

This morning, however, comes word from Powell's office that he "misspoke."

"I don't hire illegal immigrants," Powell says in a statement today. "On Meet the Press yesterday, I referred to illegal immigrants working around my house. I was referring to the many service contractors who work in my neighborhood, using mostly immigrant workers, who do good work. Some may well be 'illegal.' There are 11 million illegal immigrants in this country and most are working somewhere in our economy."

Ha ha. Ok. Yea - I can see why he would call for repairs on other people's homes. Cool.

If you go and get bids for roofing your house, you will be talking to contractors who hire illegals...that's just the way it is because it's backbreaking work that nobody else wants to do for cheap.

[Monker]

Gallup , Registered Voters


Obama 48% +1

Romney 47% -1

Who's reporting that?

Behshad apparently, since Gallup has Romney up by 3.

And, before the debate it was 5. And, among registered, Obama is ahead.

[Monker]

CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN’S (D-Va.), SON CAUGHT ON TAPE TEACHING VOTE FRAUD TECHNIQUES...


Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), resigned from his father's campaign on Wednesday after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video that appears to show him offering advice to an undercover videographer who claimed to want to commit voter fraud.

Very interesting but quite predictable that individuals such as Behshad and Monker wouldn't comment on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT77qP2Nai8

Didnt you post this yesterday?

and didnt I comment on it ?

"The vote fraud is of course only from democrats and never ever by republicans"

My bad, you commented and so did Monker. I just didn't see it before.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In Florida, Virginia and Indiana, voters have received phone calls that wrongly told them there was no need to cast a ballot in person on Election Day because they could vote by phone.

In Ohio and Wisconsin, billboards in mostly low-income and minority neighborhoods showed prisoners behind bars and warned of criminal penalties for voter fraud - an effort that voting rights groups say was designed to intimidate minority voters.

And across the nation, some employers - notably David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who help fund the conservative group Americans for Prosperity - are urging their workers to vote for Republican Mitt Romney for president.

Two weeks before what could be one of the closest presidential elections in U.S. history, efforts to mislead, intimidate or pressure voters are an increasingly prominent part of the political landscape. Analysts say tactics typically seen in the last few days before an election are already in play.

"We've seen an uptick in deceptive and intimidating tactics designed to prevent eligible Americans from voting," said Eric Marshall of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, who manages a coalition that has a telephone hot line (1-866-OUR-VOTE) that collects tips on alleged voter intimidation.

Democrats have been more vocal in complaining about such antics. They also cite groups linked to the conservative Tea Party movement that are training tens of thousands of people to monitor polling places on November 6 for voter fraud. The controversial plan has been criticized as an attempt to delay or discourage voting.

But Republicans also have been behind some of the complaints, which have been focused largely on the eight or so politically divided swing states that are likely to decide the race between Romney and Democratic President Barack Obama.

No one really can see who is behind these calls or mailings. Could be another wacko just making the republicans look bad for all we know. In that video however, we see exactly who is saying what and where.....a lot of it within one of those Dem campaign centers.

Republicans in Florida HIRED a consulting firm to register people. Fl dept of law enforcement found several forms to have fraudulent information. The fraud happened in several counties. The firm was then fired by our state republicans, after they were caught. Look it up. I'm too tired to find you links. How is there not evidence that some republicans pull the same stuff? Both sides are bad with this stuff.

There is also a HUGE difference between illegaly submitting a large number of fraudulant ballads and a person showing up to vote who isn't eligible. It's common sense that in person voting fraud hardly ever happens....and the rules Republicans are implementing are not trying fix a problem that doesn't exist, but to make it harder for Democrats to vote.