President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

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Postby FinnFreak » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:19 am

slucero wrote:A split outcome could bring victory but some embarrassment to the President, since he is on record several times over the years stating that the presidency should go to the candidate that wins the popular vote.


The first debate could've been an indication of this..?


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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:30 am

Rasmussen New Hampshire: Obama 50%, Romney 48%
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Postby slucero » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:34 am

FinnFreak wrote:
slucero wrote:A split outcome could bring victory but some embarrassment to the President, since he is on record several times over the years stating that the presidency should go to the candidate that wins the popular vote.


The first debate could've been an indication of this..?


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possibly.. but it won't matter.. regardless of who wins... because of the animosity and fervor.. the winner will take office and declare they have a "mandate"...

Ironically the post election economy will be the likely thing that keeps Washington stupidity in check.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:37 am

Republican Senate nominee: "Vote for Obama ... And me "

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Connecticut Republican Senate nominee Linda McMahon has been telling voters lately that it’s okay to vote for President Obama as well as her. Now she’s taking it a step further — and getting about as far away from her own party’s nominee for president as she can — and actually urging voters to cast their ballots for Obama as well as in the final days of the campaign.

McMahon campaign doorhangers that Democrats say they’ve discovered in minority neighborhoods this weekend couldn’t make it more clear: “Vote Barack Obama For President and Vote Linda McMahon For U.S. Senate,” they read. It’s a surprising suggestion from a Republican who, along with her husband, has given $150,000 to help make Romney the next president of the United States.

The McMahon campaign says she’s still backing Romney.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:44 am

Guess thats one way to get them to stick around, if you've bored them to death with " Government cant create job. Im gonna create 12 million jobs" :lol:


Romney staff refusing to let frostbitten children leave PA rally
This is happening right now at Mitt Romney’s rally in Pennsylvania. Apparently it’s freezing, and Romney’s staff is refusing to let rally-goers leave. People are begging reporters for help.

Absolutely incredible.




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Postby artist4perry » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:58 am

Tomorrow night I wonder.................

http://youtu.be/mtXFfizk5nE :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It will be a tight race.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:09 am

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Postby Memorex » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:15 am

Going to be a close one tomorrow, I think. Pretty amazing how divided this country is huh? Maybe it just needs to be two countries. Politics have taken hold, which is generally a result of 24 hour news and talk.

If you tune into any of the 24 hour news stations, it's almost entirely political now. Not really news. And so people take that and go argue with each other and are more and more polarized. Not saying there isn't good reason. I mean, if you feel as strong on one side as another feels on the other, then that's the way it ought to be I guess. But it's become very unproductive.

Seems we could divide this place up and people can live freely with all the people they agree with and maybe there would not be so much hatred. But I guess then within each half we'd start fighting about other things and we'd end up in fourths, then eighths, etc. Hell, maybe each state should be it's own country and that's that. :)
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Postby Memorex » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:41 am

Behshad wrote:Guess thats one way to get them to stick around, if you've bored them to death with " Government cant create job. Im gonna create 12 million jobs" :lol:


Oops. Fooled again.

http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/05/if-it-fits-the-narrative/
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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:33 am

My prediction -- Obama will, and should, win on Election Day
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I believe President Obama, based on all the evidence and my own gut instinct, which I will explain below, will win a narrow victory on Tuesday to serve a second term.

My best guess is the popular vote margin will be 50.5 percent to 49. The electoral vote margin will likely be 281 for Obama and 257 for Romney. I am picking battleground states for Obama to include Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Hampshire. For Romney I am predicting he will win battleground states Virginia, North Carolina and Colorado.

There are three clear reasons — positive for President Obama and, conversely, negative for Gov. Romney — that explain and justify the president's reelection.

First, President Obama won the battle of messages and Romney lost.

Obama’s core message — "I did the best I could on the economy; we were in a deep hole and I’ve made some progress getting out of it" — was, in my opinion, a more credible and persuasive message than Romney’s message. The former governor's central message seemed to me to be: "President Obama failed on the economy and I can succeed by way of tax cuts and less government regulation.”

But it is a simple fact that in the last year the American people have seen an improvement in the economy and that there is a perception that things are getting better. Romney’s answer, which only began to be explained in the last month or so, is simply unpersuasive to me, and, I predict, to most voters. Even if his program of tax cuts and deregulation actually created new jobs, he’s never been able to answer the question, as far as I am concerned: How you do reduce the debt while you’re cutting taxes and increasing defense spending? The numbers just don’t add up, and Romney has never been able to make them add up.

Second, polls show that Obama remains the more likable of the two candidates. I must add he lost a lot of that advantage, in my view, due to an excess of negative, personal attack ads, some of them that independent fact-checkers found to be misleading or false. He made matters even worse in diminishing his central asset of likability during the first debate, when he looked down disrespectfully when Romney was talking to him, at times seeming to smirk.

On the other hand, Mitt Romney enhanced his unlikability throughout the Republican primaries. There was the incredible moment when even conservative Texas Gov. Rick Perry asked him to "have a heart" when Romney criticized Perry for allowing illegal immigrants to pay lower in-state tuition costs in Texas to go to a state university.

It’s too bad for Romney that he waited until the first debate in October to show genuine strength of character, a commanding presence and likability. Why didn’t he do that between the end of the last debate and the convention? Why didn’t he do that in his acceptance speech? And whatever he gained in that first debate, he lost by the slimy, dishonest Jeep ads that he is now running in Ohio and the scurrilous and shameful ad he’s running in Florida associating Obama with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.

Finally, and maybe most importantly, Barack Obama remains the change candidate who excites and inspires (inevitably, less so than in 2008) the younger generation of Americans. He leads in the polls substantially among that younger generation — by margins of 20 to 30 percent. They are America’s future. For that reason, all other things being equal — and they are not, for the above two reasons — his appeal to the young, who represent the future of our country, is an important reason to vote for him next Tuesday.

The following are my state-by-state picks for results next Tuesday:

Popular Vote

Obama — 50 percent

Romney — 49 percent

Obama — Electoral votes = 281

Romney — Electoral votes = 257

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OBAMA STATES — ELECTORAL VOTES

ST Solid States = 142

Likely —

Connecticut (7)
Maine (3)
New Jersey (14)
New Mexico (5)
Washington (12)

ST: 41

Lean

Maine CD2 (1)
Oregon (7)
Minnesota (10)

ST: 18

ST: TOTAL 201

Battleground states

Iowa (6)
Nevada (6)
New Hampshire (4)
Ohio (!!!) (18 )
Pennsylvania (20)
Wisconsin (10) (!!!)
Michigan (16)

ST: 80

Total electoral votes/Obama: 281

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ROMNEY STATES — ELECTORAL VOTES

ST: Solid 127 (including Nebraska 3 electoral votes)

Likely

Georgia (16)
Indiana (11)
Missouri (10)
Nebraska (CD2) (1)
South Carolina (9)
South Dakota (3)

ST: 50

Lean

Arizona (11)
Montana (3)

ST: 14

TOTAL 191

Battlegrounds

Colorado (9)
Florida (29)
North Carolina (15)
Virginia (13)

ST: 66

Total Electoral votes/Romney: 257
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Postby RedWingFan » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:34 am

artist4perry wrote:Tomorrow night I wonder.................

http://youtu.be/mtXFfizk5nE :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It will be a tight race.

Actually, no..it won't be tight.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:47 am

RedWingFan wrote:
artist4perry wrote:Tomorrow night I wonder.................

http://youtu.be/mtXFfizk5nE :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It will be a tight race.

Actually, no..it won't be tight.



Took you long enough to come around. :lol: welcome aboard hombre :)
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Postby Rick » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:02 pm

Sign in a store near an Obama rally. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:12 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Romney internal polls put him UP in OH, TIED in PA and WI...



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Surprise surprise :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:19 pm

Fact Finder wrote:A President's Last Race, Win or Lose...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/us/po ... ml?hp&_r=0



No comments on your Fox News buddy's prediction ?! ;)
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Postby Rick » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:16 pm

Behshad wrote:Image


:lol: :lol: :lol: You know I hope you win this bet. :D
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Postby Behshad » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:52 pm

Rick wrote:
Behshad wrote:Image


:lol: :lol: :lol: You know I hope you win this bet. :D



I'm gonna donate half of it to you ! Just PM Alan your address :lol:

(I'll pay the shipping , Alan . Relax ! ) :lol;
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Postby Archetype » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:01 pm

Just going on the record again that Obama will most assuredly win.
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Postby Rick » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:02 pm

Behshad wrote:
Rick wrote:
Behshad wrote:Image


:lol: :lol: :lol: You know I hope you win this bet. :D



I'm gonna donate half of it to you ! Just PM Alan your address :lol:

(I'll pay the shipping , Alan . Relax ! ) :lol;


:lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks, B!!
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:18 pm

Archetype wrote:Just going on the record again that Obama will most assuredly win.


Boy, I like you, but you are most assuredly deluded. I'm sure you don't really believe that in your heart of hearts. You are a gun guy. The military is not voting for Obama so why are you? Maybe you lose most of your bets in life, so decided to go against your instincts. :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Archetype » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:35 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Archetype wrote:Just going on the record again that Obama will most assuredly win.


Boy, I like you, but you are most assuredly deluded. I'm sure you don't really believe that in your heart of hearts. You are a gun guy. The military is not voting for Obama so why are you? Maybe you lose most of your bets in life, so decided to go against your instincts. :wink: :lol: :lol:


I believe he will be re elected and am glad that it's the case.
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Postby RedWingFan » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:41 pm

Yeah, he's fillin' seats like the Dixie Chicks in Texas before they went belly up! :lol:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... um-in-Ohio
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:43 pm

Twas the Night before election day and all through the Whitehouse.....
Not a creature was stirring....
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Postby Behshad » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:01 am

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:09 am



If that article is in fact accurate. When it comes to the motives of Dems, it's hard to say what their reasoning would be.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:25 am

I was at my polling place at 6:20 am this morning and was first in line. About five minutes before the polls opened at 7 am, the line had grown to about 50 people. At 7 am the polls opened and out of four voting machines, only one was on line, the rest were down. I used the machine while everyone behind me had to use paper ballots. While I was casting my vote, the other three machines came back on line and so the line started to move a little better. I was done casting my vote in five minutes. Walking out of the door, the line had grown to about 100 people. It's going to be a huge turnout today. Should make for some pretty interesting news throughout the day.
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Postby SultanOfSwing » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:37 am

If Romney wins tonight, does it mean we're changing the subject to "President Mitt Romney - One Term Thread"? And the bickering continues? :lol:
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