President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[AR]

While I am at it. Health care is NOT a right. It is a service we all pay for. When my time is up, it is up. If I can afford to go to extra means to try and prolong things, then if I have worked hard enough and have the means to, ok. Health care is expensive because it is worth it to some. It is not your divine right. Highly skilled practitioners study to be able to do extraordinary things. We do not have the right to access those abilities just because we exist and are citizens of the United States.

[slucero]

Sorry, it's not that simple. A lot more goes into how laws are made then just a Presidential election. If that was the case then we would not have a Congress nor a Senate.

Laws aren't made by defunding the government, you dolt! The law was already passed and upheld. If the GOP wants to repeal, they should get a veto proof majority or win the presidency. They can't win on their ideas, so they resort to these radical tactics. Imagine if the Dems defunded the government over a gay marriage bill or abortion bill. Outrageous.

And Congress passing laws is not the same as Congress funding them you fookin' moron.... bill passage is separate from funding.

Obamacare wasn't "funded" when it was passed.. it was just passed.. and the Dems COULD defund the government over a gay marriage bill or abortion bill.

[Boomchild]

Sorry, it's not that simple. A lot more goes into how laws are made then just a Presidential election. If that was the case then we would not have a Congress nor a Senate.

Laws aren't made by defunding the government, you dolt! The law was already passed and upheld. If the GOP wants to repeal, they should get a veto proof majority or win the presidency. They can't win on their ideas, so they resort to these radical tactics. Imagine if the Dems defunded the government over a gay marriage bill or abortion bill. Outrageous.

Seems like others have beat me to it on replying to this. BTW, have you come up with some progressive answer to the HCR bill being so good for all Americans that B.O. felt the need to change it to exclude certain groups and exclude Congress members from having to pay the same amount for coverage as the average American?

[The_Noble_Cause]

.. and the Dems COULD defund the government over a gay marriage bill or abortion bill.

And when did that happen again? If the Dems pulled a stunt like that, there'd be blood in the streets and you know it. Every single time there's a Democratic president in power, the GOP loses their shit, acts as a fifth column from within, and nobody says a fucking word.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Bohener has passed several bills to fund essential Gov Services and Reid won't let the Senate take them up for vote. Just who is defunding the Gov?

Why should Reid legitimize the strong arm tactics of a party that is pretty much just showboating for their GOP districts back home? If the GOP wants to defund the government, let them live with the consequences.

[Memorex]

.. and the Dems COULD defund the government over a gay marriage bill or abortion bill.

And when did that happen again? If the Dems pulled a stunt like that, there'd be blood in the streets and you know it. Every single time there's a Democratic president in power, the GOP loses their shit, acts as a fifth column from within, and nobody says a fucking word.

12 shut downs under Tip/Gipper. Two under Gingrich/Clinton. One so far under Boehner/Obama.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Just because "it" woks in one culture/society doesn't mean it will work in another. America is made up of groups who take from the system and not pay into it.

This entire country is an amalgam of beliefs, and policies inspired from elsewhere. Everything from the Constitution to Social Security to the Interstate was modeled on some foreigner's ideas. Our social net is the least generous out of the developed world. Do you mean to say that America, the shining beacon of glory unto the world that it is, can't do better than France or Canada or Britain, when it comes to health outcomes? Why are you content with settling for mediocrity?

What's so hard about: You don't work, you can't get healthcare,..

Alot of people in America work and do not get healthcare. Why do you even comment on politics, dude? Do you have more than 3 friends? You sound like a guy that is wildly out of touch with the state of the American worker.

If I quit my job, lived homeless on the street, I'd get more in benefits from the American Government than I do when I work hard and pay taxes. America's all fucked up period!

I hope you do lose your income and become homeless. Such a fate is prolly too good for a hate filled bastard like yourself.

[slucero]

.. and the Dems COULD defund the government over a gay marriage bill or abortion bill.

And when did that happen again? If the Dems pulled a stunt like that, there'd be blood in the streets and you know it. Every single time there's a Democratic president in power, the GOP loses their shit, acts as a fifth column from within, and nobody says a fucking word.

Take out of context much? (highlighted it for ya)

Oh.. and one more thing...

in April 2007 Reid introduced a bill aimed at ending funding for the Iraq War

so.. YEAH they did try it.. "when a Republican was President, they lost their shit.. went all 5th column from within".. and unlike you and all the other liberal fucking HACKS.. no one said a word, and there was no "blood in the streets".

[steveo777]

I'm getting a huge kick when I see a liberal interviewed on TV lately. You don't know whether their political affiliation is Republican or Democrat... until they are asked a question. The women are worst at it. Their eyes start darting around and they say all kinds of shit, acting all defensive, while completely dodging legitimate questions that they either can't, or refuse to answer. Nobody can keep a straight face. Immediately busted at the outset. Am I the only one who notices this?
These people, pressed further, would probably start spewing green shit out of their mouths, while their heads were spinning around. My younger, college grad half sister is like this. The indoctrination is undeniable. That's today's college, folks! Wanna fix shit? Send them all to West Point!

[Boomchild]

.. and the Dems COULD defund the government over a gay marriage bill or abortion bill.

And when did that happen again? If the Dems pulled a stunt like that, there'd be blood in the streets and you know it. Every single time there's a Democratic president in power, the GOP loses their shit, acts as a fifth column from within, and nobody says a fucking word.

I can't believe that you fail to recognize that both parties pull stunts, showboat and do things simply to make it look like they are doing something. As far as nobody saying a word when Republicans are accused of doing something, I think the mainstream press, B.O. himself do a very good job of telling everyone about it. Then again, B.O. always blames something or someone else as the cause. Maybe he should be given the nickname "pass the buck".

[tater1977]

US forces hit extremists behind E. Africa attacks

http://news.yahoo.com/us-forces-hit-ext ... 46451.html

MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — In a stealthy seaside assault in Somalia and in a raid in Libya's capital, U.S. special forces on Saturday struck out against Islamic extremists who have carried out terrorist attacks in East Africa, snatching a Libyan al-Qaida leader allegedly involved in the bombings of U.S. embassies 15 years ago but aborting a mission to capture a terrorist suspect linked to last month's Nairobi shopping mall attack after a fierce firefight.

A U.S. Navy SEAL team swam ashore near a town in southern Somalia before militants of the al-Qaida-linked terrorist group al-Shabab rose for dawn prayers, U.S. and Somali officials told The Associated Press. The raid on a house in the town of Barawe targeted a specific al-Qaida suspect related to the mall attack, but the operation did not get its target, one current and one former U.S. military official told AP.

Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the raid publicly.

In Washington, Pentagon spokesman George Little confirmed that U.S. military personnel had been involved in a counterterrorism operation against a known al-Shabab terrorist in Somalia, but did not provide details.

U.S. officials said there were no U.S. casualties in either the Somali or Libyan operation.

The Somali raid was carried out by members of SEAL Team Six, the same unit that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in his Pakistan hideout in 2011, another senior U.S. military official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak publicly.


But this time, SEAL Team Six members encountered fiercer resistance than expected so after a 15-20 minute firefight, the unit leader decided to abort the mission and they swam away, the official said. SEAL Team Six has responsibility for counterterrorism activities in the Horn of Africa.

Within hours of the Somalia attack, the U.S. Army's Delta Force carried out a raid in Libya's capital, Tripoli, to seize a Libyan al-Qaida leader wanted for the 1998 bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed more than 220 people, the military official said. Delta Force carries out counterterrorism operations in North Africa.

The Pentagon identified the captured al-Qaida leader as Nazih Abdul-Hamed al-Ruqai, known by his alias Anas al-Libi, who has been on the FBI's most wanted terrorists list since it was introduced shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Al-Libi "is currently lawfully detained by the U.S. military in a secure location outside of Libya," Pentagon spokesman Little said.

Saturday's raid in Somalia occurred 20 years after the famous "Black Hawk Down" battle in Mogadishu in which a mission to capture Somali warlords in the capital went awry after militiamen shot down two U.S. helicopters. Eighteen U.S. soldiers were killed in the battle, and it marked the beginning of the end of that U.S. military mission to bring stability to the Horn of Africa nation. Since then, U.S. military intervention has been limited to missile attacks and lightning operations by special forces.

A resident of Barawe — a seaside town 240 kilometers (150 miles) south of Mogadishu — said by telephone that heavy gunfire woke up residents before dawn prayers.


The U.S. forces attacked a two-story beachside house in Barawe where foreign fighters lived, battling their way inside, said an al-Shabab fighter who gave his name as Abu Mohamed and who said he had visited the scene. Al-Shabab has a formal alliance with al-Qaida, and hundreds of men from the U.S., Britain and Middle Eastern countries fight alongside Somali members of al-Shabab.

A separate U.S. official described the action in Barawe as a capture operation against a high-value target. The official said U.S. forces engaged al-Shabab militants and sought to avoid civilian casualties. The U.S. forces disengaged after inflicting some casualties on fighters, said the official, who was not authorized to speak by name and insisted on anonymity.

The leader of al-Shabab, Mukhtar Abu Zubeyr, also known as Ahmed Godane, claimed responsibility for the attack on the upscale mall in Nairobi, Kenya, a four-day terrorist siege that began on Sept. 21 and killed at least 67 people. A Somali intelligence official said the al-Shabab leader was the target of Saturday's raid.

An al-Shabab official, Sheikh Abdiaziz Abu Musab, said in an audio message that the raid failed to achieve its goals.

Al-Shabab and al-Qaida have flourished in Somalia for years. Some of the plotters of the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania hid out there.

Barawe has seen Navy SEALs before. In September 2009 a daylight commando raid in Barawe killed six people, including Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, one of the most-wanted al-Qaida operatives in the region and an alleged plotter in the 1998 embassy bombings.


The Libyan al-Qaida leader also wanted for the bombings, al-Libi, is believed to have returned to Libya during the 2011 civil war that led to the ouster and killing of Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

His brother, Nabih, said al-Libi was parking outside his house early Saturday after dawn prayers when a convoy of three vehicles encircled his car. Armed gunmen smashed the car's window and seized al-Libi's gun before grabbing him and taking him away. The brother said al-Libi's wife saw the kidnapping from her window and described the abductors as foreign-looking armed "commandos."

Al-Libi, who was believed to be a computer specialist for al-Qaida, is on the FBI's most-wanted list with a $5 million bounty on his head. He was indicted by a federal court in the Southern District of New York, for his alleged role in the bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya, on August 7, 1998.

Libyan officials did not return calls seeking comment on al-Libi's abduction.

In Somalia, a resident of Barawe who gave his name as Mohamed Bile said militants closed down the town in the hours after the assault, and that all traffic and movements have been restricted. Militants were carrying out house-to-house searches, likely to find evidence that a spy had given intelligence to a foreign power used to launch the attack, he said.

"We woke up to find al-Shabab fighters had sealed off the area and their hospital is also inaccessible," Bile told The Associated Press by phone. "The town is in a tense mood."


Al-Shabab later posted pictures on the Internet of what it said was U.S. military gear left behind in the raid. Two former U.S. military officers identified the gear as the kind U.S. troops carry. Pictures showed items including bullets, an ammunition magazine, a military GPS device and a smoke and flash-bang grenade used to clear rooms. The officials could not confirm if those items had come from the raid.

In Kenya, military spokesman Maj. Emmanuel Chirchir on Saturday gave the names of four fighters implicated in the Westgate Mall attack as Abu Baara al-Sudani, Omar Nabhan, Khattab al-Kene and Umayr, names that were first broadcast by a local Kenyan television station.

Matt Bryden, the former head of the U.N. Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea, said via email that al-Kene and Umayr are known members of al-Hijra, the Kenyan arm of al-Shabab. He added that Nabhan may be a relative of Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, the target of the 2009 Navy SEALs raid in Barawe.

The identities of the four men from the mall attack came as a Nairobi station obtained and broadcast the closed circuit television footage from Westgate. The footage shows four attackers calmly walking through a storeroom inside the complex, holding machine guns. One of the men's pant legs appears to be stained with blood, though he is not limping. It is unclear if the blood is his, or that of his victims'.

Government statements shortly after the four-day siege began on Sept. 21 indicated between 10 to 15 attackers were involved, but indications since then are that fewer attackers took part, though the footage may not show all of the assailants.

[Boomchild]

Do you mean to say that America, the shining beacon of glory unto the world that it is, can't do better than France or Canada or Britain, when it comes to health outcomes? Why are you content with settling for mediocrity?

The healthcare system as it has been, is better then the countries you mentioned. It's not perfect and neither are the systems in the ones you mentioned. That's why people from those other countries come here for medical treatment. Like Canadians for one. Many come across the border to obtain treatments that are not available in Canada because their healthcare system cannot afford to provide such treatments. Now our government wants to change our system that will make it no better then these other countries. This is not to say that we couldn't improve our system as it stands but, the current healthcare reform is not the answer. As more and more of it is implemented people will discover this. People already are finding this out with sticker shock on the cost of coverage under Obamacare. Some have already found out that it will cost them almost double then their current coverage and to boot it covers less and has higher deductibles. That's going back words not forward.

[Boomchild]

“The President told the American people numerous times that… ‘If you like your coverage, you can keep it,’” Schwab said. “How can we keep it if it has been eliminated? How can we keep it if the premium has been increased 430 percent in one year?”

If you listen to Pelosi and people of her ilk, they seem to have memory retention issues because they are claiming these promises were not part of the deal. Lies, lies, tell me sweet little lies. Something tells me even more people will go without coverage under Obamacare and end up just paying the penalty. Affordable healthcare for everyone, my ass.

[steveo777]

“The President told the American people numerous times that… ‘If you like your coverage, you can keep it,’” Schwab said. “How can we keep it if it has been eliminated? How can we keep it if the premium has been increased 430 percent in one year?”

If you listen to Pelosi and people of her ilk, they seem to have memory retention issues because they are claiming these promises were not part of the deal. Lies, lies, tell me sweet little lies. Something tells me even more people will go without coverage under Obamacare and end up just paying the penalty. Affordable healthcare for everyone, my ass.

Healthcare is simply a big plan to redistribute wealth, which Obama is all for as we know.

You are only partially correct.
Redistribute wealth.....thrust more goverment controls on us.....take more of our privacy......remove more of our personal liberty. One of the first moves toward a dictatorship is to take control of medical care. Civil uprising.....false flag operation......martial law.....constitution invalidation......totalitarian government. All scary stuff. Will it happen? Probably not, but I can see how it could.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Oh.. and one more thing...

in April 2007 Reid introduced a bill aimed at ending funding for the Iraq War

so.. YEAH they did try it.. "when a Republican was President, they lost their shit.. went all 5th column from within".. and unlike you and all the other liberal fucking HACKS.. no one said a word, and there was no "blood in the streets".

This Reid/Iraq comparison is all over the right wing websites today (Daily Caller etc.). The fact that you give it no accreditation tells me that you are a plagiarist, incapable of original critical thinking, and most likely a pretty dishonest dude in your day-to-day life. Anyway, the Dems did not shut down the government over Iraq (or gay marriage or abortion or any one pet issue), so the point still stands. Now go steal some more ideas. I'll be here.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The healthcare system as it has been, is better then the countries you mentioned.

Wrong. Qualitative healthcare outcomes in the US continue to lag.

That's why people from those other countries come here for medical treatment. Like Canadians for one. Many come across the border to obtain treatments that are not available in Canada because their healthcare system cannot afford to provide such treatments.

Like Sushi Hunter, I bet you don't have many friends, especially not alot of foreign ones anyway. The fact of the matter is, Europe, which is prone to civil activism and disobedience, has never once taken to the streets to protest their socialist healthcare systems and the "supposed" masses of euthanized dead citizens lining the streets thanks to death panels. No country is changing their healthcare system to be more like the US. None. And the stories of frostbacks sneaking into the US for care are overblown. Most concern elective care, not basic coverage. Furthermore, the quality of healthcare in Canada varies per province, something that should appeal to states rights invoking Conservatives. But, of course, you are all full of shit.

Now our government wants to change our system that will make it no better then these other countries.

Yea, sure. And Medicare and Social Security and Civil and Women's Rights are all part of a secret Soviet plot. Thank god you people and your backward thinking are a relic of the past.

[slucero]

Oh.. and one more thing...

in April 2007 Reid introduced a bill aimed at ending funding for the Iraq War
http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/30/flash ... -iraq-war/

so.. YEAH they did try it.. "when a Republican was President, they lost their shit.. went all 5th column from within".. and unlike you and all the other liberal fucking HACKS.. no one said a word, and there was no "blood in the streets".

This Reid/Iraq comparison is all over the right wing websites today (Daily Caller etc.). The fact that you give it no accreditation tells me that you are a plagiarist, incapable of original critical thinking, and most likely a pretty dishonest dude in your day-to-day life. Anyway, the Dems did not shut down the government over Iraq (or gay marriage or abortion or any one pet issue), so the point still stands. Now go steal some more ideas. I'll be here.

Actually two of my most praised attributes are my integrity and honesty... it's why the Fortune 500 companies I've worked for have trusted me with the management of nearly $800 Million dollars in spend during my 20 plus year career as a procurement manager...

...as far as the line I quoted.. nah.. I just forgot.. there ya go Nancy.. I fixed it fer ya.. gee hat just refuted all the shit you typed din't it?

I think what your comment proves is that you've just been caught with your wet, bloody panties wrapped around your ankles Nancy.. and instead of admitting you were WRONG... decided instead to personally attack me, like the good little liberal bitch you are.. straight outta the Hitlery playbook.. well done.. predictable.. but well done.. lmao....

Your comment also shows yer a narcissist... who stares down his nose at people, especially when proven wrong, over and over again by those who have differing opinions that they support with facts..

[The_Noble_Cause]

Actually two of my most praised attributes are my integrity and honesty... it's why the Fortune 500 companies I've worked for have trusted me with the management of nearly $800 Million dollars in spend during my 20 plus year career as a procurement manager...

Boy, that sure is impressive. Not. Keep shaking that coffee can. You are fooling nobody but yourself.

I think what your comment proves is that you've just been caught with your wet, bloody panties wrapped around your ankles Nancy.. and instead of admitting you were WRONG... decided instead to personally attack me, like the good little liberal bitch you are.. straight outta the Hitlery playbook.. well done.. predictable.. but well done.. lmao....

Lol. Bush, the GOP's favorite family, made their fortune with the Nazi's. The entire GOP playbook is lifted straight from Mein Kampf, right down to the vilification of the arts and sciences. Einstein fled Germany because physics were deemed "jew science." Jazz was labeled "nigger music." Which of the two modern American parties wage a non-stop battle on the film industry and climatologists? Sound familiar? You guys should stop pretending and just switch out the elephant logo with a golden eagle.

Your comment also shows yer a narcissistic... who stares down his nose at people, especially when proven wrong, over and over again by those who have differing opinions that they support with facts..

Blah blah blah. Harry Reid did not shut down the government. The Dems did not defund general budget operations over a single issue. You have been exposed.I am here to burst your insular little talk radio bubble. Contrary to what Rush Limbaugh tells you, liberals do fight back. So keep spinning like a whirling dervish, bitch.

[slucero]

Actually two of my most praised attributes are my integrity and honesty... it's why the Fortune 500 companies I've worked for have trusted me with the management of nearly $800 Million dollars in spend during my 20 plus year career as a procurement manager...

Boy, that sure is impressive. Not. Keep shaking that coffee can. You are fooling nobody but yourself.

I think what your comment proves is that you've just been caught with your wet, bloody panties wrapped around your ankles Nancy.. and instead of admitting you were WRONG... decided instead to personally attack me, like the good little liberal bitch you are.. straight outta the Hitlery playbook.. well done.. predictable.. but well done.. lmao....

Lol. Bush, the GOP's favorite family, made their fortune with the Nazi's. The entire GOP playbook is lifted straight from Mein Kampf, right down to the vilification of the arts and sciences. Einstein fled Germany because physics were deemed "jew science." Jazz was labeled "nigger music." Which of the two modern American parties wage a non-stop battle on the film industry and climatologists? Sound familiar? You guys should stop pretending and just switch out the elephant logo with a golden eagle.

Your comment also shows yer a narcissistic... who stares down his nose at people, especially when proven wrong, over and over again by those who have differing opinions that they support with facts..

Blah blah blah. Harry Reid did not shut down the government. The Dems did not defund general budget operations over a single issue. You have been exposed.I am here to burst your insular little talk radio bubble. Contrary to what Rush Limbaugh tells you, liberals do fight back. So keep spinning like a whirling dervish, bitch.

LOL. looks like I struck a nerve...


(make sure you change yer panties Nancy)


remember what your fearless leader said..

[steveo777]

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Barack Hussein Obama 2006

I hope congress remembers these words when the time comes confront the debt ceiling again. Mr. Flipper-Flopper needs to have his words crammed back down his throat.

[The_Noble_Cause]

LOL. looks like I struck a nerve...

Yea, dude. I'm so fired up, I am about to pathetically brag about my diversified stock portfolio, Cayman island tax shelters, pony stables, and Thurston B. Howell the III trust fund. Oh wait. That was you. Just one post up. Trying to prove your financial worth, because you are a big fat intellectual ZERO. At this rate, you will give us your soc. security # and mother's maiden name in no time. Any other personal info you want to share? How about the results of your latest VD test, you mammon-worshiping Satanic cocksucker! You are a waste of Andrew's bandwidth. Tool!

[The_Noble_Cause]

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Barack Hussein Obama 2006

And under Obama, gov't spending is at it's slowest since Eisenhower and the deficit is closing. So what's your point?

[steveo777]

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Barack Hussein Obama 2006

And under Obama, gov't spending is at it's slowest since Eisenhower and the deficit is closing. So what's your point?

Gimme some of the pink cloud you're living on. I will believe you when we don't go raise the debt ceiling again, coming up real soon. If your boy is doing so well, we should be able to fund government without the need to go out and borrow more money. Keep believing the horse shit your main stream liberal media tells you. In your eyes they must shit ice cream.

[slucero]

LOL. looks like I struck a nerve...

Yea, dude. I'm so fired up, I am about to pathetically brag about my diversified stock portfolio, Cayman island tax shelters, pony stables, and Thurston B. Howell the III trust fund. Oh wait. That was you. Just one post up. Trying to prove your financial worth, because you are a big fat intellectual ZERO. At this rate, you will give us your soc. security # and mother's maiden name in no time. Any other personal info you want to share? How about the results of your latest VD test, you mammon-worshiping Satanic cocksucker! You are a waste of Andrew's bandwidth. Tool!

nah.. I was just answering your straight-outta-the-liberal-playbook "personally attack the person when you've got nothing" post.

I think most would here would see that. But you've brought that on yerself.. so keep going and solidify that perception we all now have of you.. Nancy...

(re-reading my post to find where I said anything my financial self worth.. nope.. not there.. I guess mebbe you misread what I posted in your manic, fist pounding temper fit response)

LOL.

wow.. you really are bleeding out yer ass here...

[verslibre]

First time I've ever seen somebody in a political thread insult another poster by calling him a satanist.

That's entertainment! — Rush (the band)

[The_Noble_Cause]

nah.. I was just answering your straight-outta-the-liberal-playbook "personally attack the person when you've got nothing" post.

And on page 614 of this thread, you said quote: "He's insanely judgmental... and mental.. all at the same time..."
You dirty hypocritical sunofabitch. It's already been established that you haven't an iota of honesty, now it's clear you have no fucking shame. Is that your idea of a substantive non-defamatory post?

I think most would here would see that. But you've brought that on yerself.. so keep going and solidify that perception we all now have of you.. Nancy...

Boo-hoo. Typical little crybaby bitch. Want to quickly send a PM to Drew before FactFucker comes running to spray talcum powder on your retarded ass? I like my facts intermixed with my personal attacks. If you can't handle it, too damn bad.

[slucero]

nah.. I was just answering your straight-outta-the-liberal-playbook "personally attack the person when you've got nothing" post.

And on page 614 of this thread, you said quote: "He's insanely judgmental... and mental.. all at the same time..."
You dirty hypocritical sunofabitch. It's already been established that you haven't an iota of honesty, now it's clear you have no fucking shame. Is that your idea of a substantive non-defamatory post?

actually its the truth.. almost every time you post.. you have to denigrate the poster in your response.. you almost never simply post fact and let it speak for itself..

so ya.. I posted it and I meant it asshole.

I think most would here would see that. But you've brought that on yerself.. so keep going and solidify that perception we all now have of you.. Nancy...

Boo-hoo. Typical little crybaby bitch. Want to quickly send a PM to Drew before FactFucker comes running to spray talcum powder on your retarded ass? I like my facts intermixed with my personal attacks. If you can't handle it, too damn bad.

LMAO..

as I said above..

[slucero]

First time I've ever seen somebody in a political thread insult another poster by calling him a satanist.

That's entertainment! — Rush (the band)

Hahaha.. I was lmao at that point.. I was imagining he(she) was doing this:

[steveo777]

For some people, like TNC, when the current reality doesn't match the picture one holds, violent illness and meltdown can occur.

Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance etc.

[The_Noble_Cause]

actually its the truth.. almost every time you post.. you have to denigrate the poster in your response.. you almost never simply post fact and let it speak for itself..

so ya.. I posted it and I meant it asshole.

Ah, I see how it is..
So when a card carrying "Conservative" talks stink on MR.com, it is to be ignored.
But when a liberal does it, it needs to be called out. Good to see you are consistent and apply the same double standards to the internet as you do to politics. And now, after spewing a non-stop raft of BS "paraphrased" facts and derogatory slurs you want to act high n' mighty and somehow above the fray? Sorry pal. The reset button on your computer doesn't erase the past. You are a confirmed plagiarist, hypocrite, a loud mouthed braggart insecure about his own finances, and probably a shitty husband and father too.