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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:22 am

Fact Finder wrote:Hoo Boy, does it get any better than this? :)


During a Brookings Institution panel in April 2006, then-Sen. Barack Obama claimed he had “stolen” ideas from a gang of liberal economists and academics, including the now-infamous Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber.

“You have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them I have stolen ideas from liberally,” Obama said. “People ranging from Robert Gordon to Austan Goolsbee; Jon Gruber; my dear friend, Jim Wallis here, who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice.”

Despite Obama’s attempt to distance himself and his unpopular signature health care legislation from Gruber, it is clear that 2006 Obama never anticipated videos of his once-trusted adviser calling American voters ‘stupid’ would surface in 2014.


Thank you AlGore for this wonderful net thingy! :lol:

No wonder Obama want's to regulate it.


Oh yes, it can and will get better than this. Gruber represents all that the democraps in Washington think of their voter base. But Gruber got sloppy, which happens when they become too comfortable talking with their own about the "little people".

BTW, interesting stuff coming out on Ferguson lately. Puts into focus now why diplomats from Washington were in Ferguson during the funeral. And now, talk about violence and not just your typical "hood" violence.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:56 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Man, all kind of old Obama friends throwing him under the bus... :D


Jonathan Gruber was “the man” behind Obamacare, according to a former adviser to President Barack Obama.



That puts a different spin to Gruber's involvement based on how B.O. presented it in his response in the press.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:01 pm

Harvard and UNC sued over their admission policies
Associated Press By PHILIP MARCELO
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BOSTON (AP) — Lawsuits filed Monday against Harvard University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill argue that affirmative action policies should be banned at colleges across the nation.

The federal suits allege Harvard and UNC rely on race-based affirmative action policies that impact admissions of high-achieving white and Asian American students. The Harvard lawsuit also contends that the Ivy League university specifically limits the number of Asian Americans it admits each year.


If we truly want to be a society that does not have prejudice based on race then this type of thing needs to go. If we are all equal then special treatment should not be given either way.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:00 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:To quote FF, "Yyou can't make this stuff up".
http://www.westernjournalism.com/say-wh ... -cry-foul/



Calling Turley a "liberal law professor" isn't really fair. He may hold personal liberal views, but anyone who has followed him knows he is a constitutionalist first and foremost. He's routinely called Obama worse than Bush and Nixon. Funny, as soon as he started to attack Obama, you never saw him on MSNBC anymore....
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:01 am

Jim Webb has thrown his hat (unofficially) in the 2016 race. I've always wanted this dude to run and would proudly vote for him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/j ... 13055.html
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:39 am

So B.O. was spouting off on what he is going to do about our "broken immigration system". The funny thing is, he as well as others are not very specific on pointing out how it is "broken". Maybe this is because it is not broken. It's is not properly enforced. We tried granting legal status before that was to "fix" the illegal immigration problem. What was the result of that? The government never completed securing our borders as they stated they were going to do therefore people still are illegally crossing our boarders to this very day. It did little to nothing on stopping people from illegally entering the U.S.. B.O. says he wants to grant legal status to the highly skilled illegals. I would love to know what the ratio of "highly skilled" to "low or non skilled" illegals entering the U.S. is. I think the later is the majority. According to B.O. they are supposed to "pay their fair share" of taxes. Just how is this going to be determined? I would think those that are hiring known illegals are not keeping detailed records. How long are they going to be given to pay their "fair share" of taxes?

There is no need to give illegals living here a break. It didn't work in the past and it is not going to work now. If they are struggling here that is their own fault and not the responsibility of our government to take care of their problems. It is the responsibility of our government to properly prosecute and deport illegals when caught. Period. That is the law. It should not matter whether they are committing crimes or not. The simple fact that they are here is a crime in itself. Illegals do not have rights to make demands on a country to which they are not a citizen. As long as our current immigration laws are being obstructed, no deals should be made to change it. In addition Congress should not grant funding for any of the actions B.O. is attempting to enact through executive order. I hope they are also going legally challenge B.O.'s actions.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:58 am

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If things keep going in the direction they are, this is not far from the truth.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:24 am

i used to work with somebody whose parents are 'illegal' immigrants from Russia. They came here during the late 80's before the USSR fell. He was just a baby when they came over...therefore, he was 'illegal', too.

So, now it is all of these years later. He found a company who would sponsor him for a work Visa...after graduating with an IT degree from a local community college. He worked at the company for about five years when I met him. He hated his job. He was WAY underpaid, compared to others at his level...and he was required to do work ABOVE his title. I asked him why he didn't just find another job...he had the skills. He said it was nearly impossible because companies do not normally want to sponsor a work Visa. I asked why he doesn't become a citizen....and he laughed at me, saying the politics involved makes it nearly impossible for him to go that route, and several other guys from India agreed with him. This was also around the time of the "Dream Act"...and he was cautiously optimistic about it...and was just as worried about being added to a list of people who the government could easily target, and it was all politics and political trends change on a dime.

So, there is your example of "broken immigration" system. A kid who is tied to his parents decisions. A kid who grew up in the US, went to US schools, even graduated in a US college, but has no real path to becoming a citizen. And, he is a skilled worker, contributing to society and NOT relying on the government to 'take care of him." In fact, he said all the money he pays to SSN and other taxes, he will never see any benefit of it.

I see NOTHING wrong with allowing a person like I describe above become a citizen. In fact, it is a bit disapointing that politics has to play such a huge role in their lives...and they become pawns in a stupid game. It's shameful really.

It also doesn't matter what percentage the above represents...the fact is, they exist, and how we are treating the situation is wrong.


Boomchild wrote:So B.O. was spouting off on what he is going to do about our "broken immigration system". The funny thing is, he as well as others are not very specific on pointing out how it is "broken". Maybe this is because it is not broken. It's is not properly enforced. We tried granting legal status before that was to "fix" the illegal immigration problem. What was the result of that? The government never completed securing our borders as they stated they were going to do therefore people still are illegally crossing our boarders to this very day. It did little to nothing on stopping people from illegally entering the U.S.. B.O. says he wants to grant legal status to the highly skilled illegals. I would love to know what the ratio of "highly skilled" to "low or non skilled" illegals entering the U.S. is. I think the later is the majority. According to B.O. they are supposed to "pay their fair share" of taxes. Just how is this going to be determined? I would think those that are hiring known illegals are not keeping detailed records. How long are they going to be given to pay their "fair share" of taxes?

There is no need to give illegals living here a break. It didn't work in the past and it is not going to work now. If they are struggling here that is their own fault and not the responsibility of our government to take care of their problems. It is the responsibility of our government to properly prosecute and deport illegals when caught. Period. That is the law. It should not matter whether they are committing crimes or not. The simple fact that they are here is a crime in itself. Illegals do not have rights to make demands on a country to which they are not a citizen. As long as our current immigration laws are being obstructed, no deals should be made to change it. In addition Congress should not grant funding for any of the actions B.O. is attempting to enact through executive order. I hope they are also going legally challenge B.O.'s actions.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:50 pm

Monker wrote:So, there is your example of "broken immigration" system. A kid who is tied to his parents decisions. A kid who grew up in the US, went to US schools, even graduated in a US college, but has no real path to becoming a citizen. And, he is a skilled worker, contributing to society and NOT relying on the government to 'take care of him." In fact, he said all the money he pays to SSN and other taxes, he will never see any benefit of it.


Sorry, I wouldn't put the blame on the system. Blame and responsibility lies at the feet of the parents. This person is the collateral damage caused by his parents. If you or he wants to finger someone for his struggles, go discuss it with the parents who created the situation by entering the country illegally. Did his parents ever turn themselves into immigration to see if in some way that could change his situation?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:26 am

And now....A little lesson on how government works....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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Ah yes... A promotion to show the best that our society has to offer.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby AR » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:21 am

"Here's the lessons from Ferguson America- Don't let your kids growup to be thugs who think they can steal, assault & attack cops as a way of life & badge of black (dis)honor.

Don't preach your racist bullshit "no justice no peace" as blabbered by Obama's racist Czar Al Not So Sharpton & their black klansmen.

When a cop tells you to get out of the middle of the street, obey him & don't attack him as brainwashed by the gangsta assholes you hang with & look up to. It's that simple unless you have no brains, no soul, no sense of decency whatsoever.

And don't claim that "black lives matter" when you ignore the millions you abort & slaughter each & every day by other blacks. Those of us with a soul do indeed believe black lives matter, as all lives matter. So quit killin each other you fuckin idiots. Drive safely."

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:28 am

Effective way to deal with this difficulty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEgzPx-T0rk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udOvVcIgUp0

Minor glitch in "system" solved!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby SF-Dano » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:28 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Tensions flare between Senate Democrats, White House
Reuters By Roberta Rampton

Senator Charles Schumer casts his vote at a polling station in Brooklyn.

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"Funny, I don't remember Chuck Schumer giving that advice when he was privately and publicly championing the Affordable Care Act in 2010," said Jon Favreau, a former White House speechwriter, on Twitter.


Jon Favreau??? (LOL :lol: )
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:19 am

I care about Stinkus as much as I care about a dog turd laying out on the side of the road. Give it some time and both dry up and blow away in the wind.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:51 am

JBlake wrote:I care about Stinkus as much as I care about a dog turd laying out on the side of the road. Give it some time and both dry up and blow away in the wind.


The difference is that when the dog turd blows away nothings left but when B.O. does there will be a big heap of turds left behind.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:56 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:More ACA changes. Didn't go through Congress, just changes.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/02/the-presid ... law-again/


So how long will the people we elect to uphold the law(s) set forth by our Constitution let B.O. keep breaking the law(s)? Something tells me never. Our government is so corrupt that jokes about it are not funny anymore.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:17 am

Hilldabeast is saying we (America) need to start sympathizing/respecting/etc. the ISIS terror group. WTF! Did she get that line from Biden or is she just that fucked up all on her own? Old spent hippies from the sixties are what is messing up this country.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:25 pm

JBlake wrote:Hilldabeast is saying we (America) need to start sympathizing/respecting/etc. the ISIS terror group. WTF! Did she get that line from Biden or is she just that fucked up all on her own? Old spent hippies from the sixties are what is messing up this country.


What is the source for this statement? While I would not be totally surprised she would make such a statement, I would have expected B.O. to make a similar statement.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:33 am

JBlake wrote:Hilldabeast is saying we (America) need to start sympathizing/respecting/etc. the ISIS terror group. WTF! Did she get that line from Biden or is she just that fucked up all on her own? Old spent hippies from the sixties are what is messing up this country.


I also thought, with this kind of logic America should have sympathized and respected Adolf Hitler.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:27 pm



Dun..Dun...Dun...another one bites the dust. This one is a big deal and further proof that Democrats cannot continue to run campaigns on lies and childish flip-floppery. She voted with Obama 97% of the time, but pulled away from her Obamacare and Keystone PL votes. Integrity means you stay true to your principles and don't change just for political expediency. It bit her in the ass big time!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:52 pm

Some second thoughts in Congress about new Iran sanctions

Though many longtime lawmakers are eager for immediate penalties, it appears they don't have enough votes to override a threatened veto by President Barack Obama. And some lawmakers are worrying that new penalties could upend the long-running negotiations, sticking the United States — and Congress in particular — with the blame.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... ar-BBgqRtM


This should come as no surprise since Iran is playing nice nice when it comes to "assisting" with the ISIS problem. This may all be moot because I don't think that anyone is going to stop Iran from building nukes of some kind.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:07 am

Health law impacts primary care doc shortage

A survey this year by The Physicians Foundation found that 81 percent of doctors describe themselves as either over-extended or at full capacity, and 44 percent said they planned to cut back on the number of patients they see, retire, work part-time or close their practice to new patients.

At the same time, insurance companies have routinely limited the number of doctors and providers on their plans as a way to cut costs. The result has further restricted some patients' ability to get appointments quickly.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/health ... ar-BBgsyCN


It has been said that the Obamacare would put a strain on doctors and that there would not be enough doctors to meet the demand. I thought we would not see this until much later. It seems it is already effecting the system.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:40 am

Latest Democrap propaganda stunt with the report on the CIA. These Democraps will stop at nothing to destroy America. This report is as accurate as all the other bullshit lies Stinkus and crew have put out, like all the lies with Stinkus'care, Libya, you name it. Sure select high value terrorists were tortured. But to the degree and/or severity, that's what's going to be the bullshit lies. Honestly can anyone actually list all the lies this current administration has been caught up in? So many I've basically lost count.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:53 pm

JBlake wrote:Latest Democrap propaganda stunt with the report on the CIA. These Democraps will stop at nothing to destroy America. This report is as accurate as all the other bullshit lies Stinkus and crew have put out, like all the lies with Stinkus'care, Libya, you name it. Sure select high value terrorists were tortured. But to the degree and/or severity, that's what's going to be the bullshit lies. Honestly can anyone actually list all the lies this current administration has been caught up in? So many I've basically lost count.


Let's all cry a tear for a bunch of murderous terrorists that were mistreated. Fuck them all. We have been too kind! If a terrorist ass rapes every liberal sympathizer / apologist, think it will change their positions? First of all, these cretins are animals and until they treat people like human beings, we should not treat them as such either. Again, Fuck em!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:56 pm

steveo777 wrote:Let's all cry a tear for a bunch of murderous terrorists that were mistreated. Fuck them all. We have been too kind! If a terrorist ass rapes every liberal sympathizer / apologist, think it will change their positions? First of all, these cretins are animals and until they treat people like human beings, we should not treat them as such either. Again, Fuck em!


Again, the reaction of this administration and those in lock step with it is not surprising. Look at how the administration are just releasing the detainees from GTMO. They are supposedly low level or no level threats. Yet the leader of ISIS was once held at GTMO and released for the very same reason. We now see how that worked out. No matter how you slice it, war is ugly and some can't accept it. If we applied the politically correct views of today during WWII something tells me that war would have come out differently and not in our or the worlds favor.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:07 am

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JBlake wrote:Latest Democrap propaganda stunt with the report on the CIA. These Democraps will stop at nothing to destroy America. This report is as accurate as all the other bullshit lies Stinkus and crew have put out, like all the lies with Stinkus'care, Libya, you name it. Sure select high value terrorists were tortured. But to the degree and/or severity, that's what's going to be the bullshit lies. Honestly can anyone actually list all the lies this current administration has been caught up in? So many I've basically lost count.


Let's all cry a tear for a bunch of murderous terrorists that were mistreated. Fuck them all. We have been too kind! If a terrorist ass rapes every liberal sympathizer / apologist, think it will change their positions? First of all, these cretins are animals and until they treat people like human beings, we should not treat them as such either. Again, Fuck em!


Hahaha, yep. And "If a terrorist ass rapes every liberal sympathizer / apologist, think it will change their positions?" Nope, they'd just do what Democrap / Liberals do best.....blame it on Bush and/or the Republicans, as in, "if they didn't do this, the terrorists wouldn't have done this to me...." That's just how sick and demented Demacraps and Liberals are. Democraps and Liberals are the portion of society who has been brainwashed by the political Democraps and liberal media.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:39 am

steveo777 wrote:
JBlake wrote:Latest Democrap propaganda stunt with the report on the CIA. These Democraps will stop at nothing to destroy America. This report is as accurate as all the other bullshit lies Stinkus and crew have put out, like all the lies with Stinkus'care, Libya, you name it. Sure select high value terrorists were tortured. But to the degree and/or severity, that's what's going to be the bullshit lies. Honestly can anyone actually list all the lies this current administration has been caught up in? So many I've basically lost count.


Let's all cry a tear for a bunch of murderous terrorists that were mistreated. Fuck them all. We have been too kind! If a terrorist ass rapes every liberal sympathizer / apologist, think it will change their positions? First of all, these cretins are animals and until they treat people like human beings, we should not treat them as such either. Again, Fuck em!


The reasons there are treaties against torture are to attempt to protect our own soldiers who are captured.

Those involved in the CIA should be brought up on charges and brought to trial in a world court in the same way the world brought Nazi's to trial. All those who are saying we should kill all muslims are acting more like Hitler than Obama ever has. Maybe if some Americans are executed for war crimes, you will see how serious this discussion is.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:49 am

Monker wrote:
Those involved in the CIA should be brought up on charges and brought to trial in a world court in the same way the world brought Nazi's to trial. All those who are saying we should kill all muslims are acting more like Hitler than Obama ever has. Maybe if some Americans are executed for war crimes, you will see how serious this discussion is.


You shouldn't compare what the Nazi's did to Jews to what the CIA is doing to confirmed terrorist actively participating in the initiating, planning, and execution of attacks on Americans. Plus the CIA is on a fact finding mission to prevent further terrorist activities. Now.... how many of these same individuals, who are up in arms about what the CIA does with the terrorists, would they have the same opinion about the CIA doing the same thing to the Nazi's during the late '30's and early 40's in preventing future attacks on the Jews?
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