President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[JBlake]

Freedom is the choice to enroll or not to enroll in a health care program and for how much coverage. Stinkuscare removes those freedoms plus sets the cost according to individual income. Now Stinkus is attempting to add Cubans to the long list of free and unlimited healthcare recipients.

[steveo777]

Freedom is the choice to enroll or not to enroll in a health care program and for how much coverage. Stinkuscare removes those freedoms plus sets the cost according to individual income. Now Stinkus is attempting to add Cubans to the long list of free and unlimited healthcare recipients.

Imagine going on Ticketmaster.com to buy a Journey Ticket and a front row seat costs a $20,000 a year earner $10 and a $75,000 a year earner pays $140. Who in their right mind would support such a system? The tickets are actually a $140 value but the guy making $20k gets a $130 tax subsidy to reduce his costs to $10, while other taxpayers who won't even be going to the show foot the bill. Meanwhile, Journey (ie..insurance companies) get their total take regardless. Insanity!

And......almost half the country thinks this shit is fine! What are they teaching kids in school these days?

[The_Noble_Cause]

But at the same time, getting the government off the hook of footing the bill in government healthcare funding to care for all the unhealthy dirtbags they import into this country for their vote.

In other words, you would prefer to cut out the HMO middleman, and have the government literally put in charge of healthcare aka single payer? The truth is, none of your views make any kind of coherent sense. I was talking to a 28 year old at the gym today who is working his way through college. Currently, he makes $9 an hour working for the university, while also attending school on a full time basis. No kids. He just qualified for coverage today thru Obamacare and was pretty happy about it. I guess to you he is just another low life freeloader mooching off the gravy train, huh? You sound insular, borderline-psychotic, and pretty much removed from the realities of modern-day America.

[steveo777]

28 year old male, non smoker, $9 hour x 40 = $18,000 yearly = $14 a month health policy. Tax subsidy is $171 a month.

WITH A $6000 DEDUCTIBLE

This young healthy guy probably doesn't ever go to the doctor anyway. His income is well under the minimum for filing for chapter 7 bankruptcy. In the event of something catastrophic, where he had to go have surgery, he could just be relieved of all the debt. Should he be forced to have insurance and should those of us who make more money be forced to pay for his? If he wants insurance he should seek out an employer who offers it, but not feel he is entitled to it as a God given right. I don't take bankruptcy lightly, but it is there for protection, as an emergency measure. The way things work in this country is that you can drive to bankruptcy court in a Cadillac. Now that's a Cadillac plan!

[Boomchild]

Exactly. This is just the Demacraps way of demotivating people to 1) not work and 2) not take care of themselves, because the hard working health conscious individuals will be forced to foot their medical bills. But at the same time, getting the government off the hook of footing the bill in government healthcare funding to care for all the unhealthy dirtbags they import into this country for their vote.

A democrap like the few posting on this thread looks at Stinkuscare as a windfall for them. They don't have to work and they don't have to eat and live a healthy responsible lifestyle. It's all paid for. It's the gravy motherfucking train. I tell you what though, one of these days each and every one of them will be laying tits up on a gurney and it will be a "and this time we didn't forget the gravy" situation.

Actually, I think all of this has to do with Obamacare being designed to fail in the first place. It's not a secret that B.O. as well as some others have said that they ultimately wanted to have a single payer (government) healthcare system but they knew that the American public would not accept it. So they designed a system which on the surface seems like an actual solution but, when you peel away at the surface it starts to become clear that it isn't. Hence the famous Nancy Pelosi statement, "We have to pass it for you to see whats in it". Then when it does not fulfill what it was supposed to do, they can point the finger at the free market or private health insurance providers. They will paint a picture that we tried to make it work with free market or private health insurance providers and it doesn't work. That way it will make it a lot easier to purpose a single payer solution to the general public. In other words, they create the condition to implement what they wanted all the long.

[Boomchild]

Imagine going on Ticketmaster.com to buy a Journey Ticket and a front row seat costs a $20,000 a year earner $10 and a $75,000 a year earner pays $140. Who in their right mind would support such a system? The tickets are actually a $140 value but the guy making $20k gets a $130 tax subsidy to reduce his costs to $10, while other taxpayers who won't even be going to the show foot the bill. Meanwhile, Journey (ie..insurance companies) get their total take regardless. Insanity!

It would make perfect sense to those that support wealth re-distribution ideals. Which our POTUS as well as others elected to run our government believe in.

[Boomchild]

And......almost half the country thinks this shit is fine! What are they teaching kids in school these days?

Their teaching the transition from a Republic to a quasi Socialist system and ideals. To the general public it's known as the "Common Core System".

[Boomchild]

28 year old male, non smoker, $9 hour x 40 = $18,000 yearly = $14 a month health policy. Tax subsidy is $171 a month.

WITH A $6000 DEDUCTIBLE

At least this person would be paying something. Look how Obamacare has increased the number of people who now qualify for state run Medicaid programs.

[Boomchild]

The way things work in this country is that you can drive to bankruptcy court in a Cadillac. Now that's a Cadillac plan!

As well as drive it to your local welfare office and food bank.

[The_Noble_Cause]

And......almost half the country thinks this shit is fine! What are they teaching kids in school these days?

Their teaching the transition from a Republic to a quasi Socialist system and ideals. To the general public it's known as the "Common Core System".

Actually, civics and the constitution aren't really taught in school at all anymore...not from the standpoint of original intent OR living document. It's a problem.

[JBlake]

Freedom is the choice to enroll or not to enroll in a health care program and for how much coverage. Stinkuscare removes those freedoms plus sets the cost according to individual income. Now Stinkus is attempting to add Cubans to the long list of free and unlimited healthcare recipients.

Imagine going on Ticketmaster.com to buy a Journey Ticket and a front row seat costs a $20,000 a year earner $10 and a $75,000 a year earner pays $140. Who in their right mind would support such a system? The tickets are actually a $140 value but the guy making $20k gets a $130 tax subsidy to reduce his costs to $10, while other taxpayers who won't even be going to the show foot the bill. Meanwhile, Journey (ie..insurance companies) get their total take regardless. Insanity!

Very good, but lets not forget that the guy buying the tickets for $10 will get head of the line privileges for both buying the tickets and entrance into the theater, plus the $10 ticket holders will be entitled to the first 100 rows from the stage, will be provided free transportation to and from the venue. Whereas the $140 ticket holder gets none of those plus no guarantee that a seat will even be available, due to the fact that $10 ticket holders have priority, meaning, if max seating is 20,000 and all 20,000 seats are taken by the $10 ticket holders, the $140 ticket holders can't get in. But that won't stop Stinkuscare from collecting premium payments. And by the way... making the purchase mandatory or face tax fee at the end of each year. Just like everything else the Demacraps are involved with (IRS, NSA, VA etc. etc.)

[Boomchild]

Nice to see that B.O. is tackling the important issues as the world edges closer to the abyss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fjlXo5nT-o

[JBlake]

Sounds like Democraper douchebag Harry Reid got his ass kicked. Broken ribs and face, yeah, he just tripped over a slipper and hit the carpet face down......yeah right.

[Boomchild]

Coming soon from the likes of the TNC's and Monker's of the world....I can't fucking wait, the wailing and gnashing of teeth will be something to behold..

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/06/us/he ... share&_r=0

Guess it's all sunshine and rainbows until you find out that you are not excluded from paying the price of what you support.

[Boomchild]

ObamaCare: The Real Pain Starts This Year


If you are among the 150 million Americans who get health insurance through their employers, for example, chances are that the coverage your company offered for 2015 has much higher premiums than did last year’s plan. The President and his toad eaters in the legacy media will do their best to convince you that these increases are caused by insurance company avarice, but this is merely another lie they are peddling in the hope that they can save Obama’s “signature domestic achievement.”

A large percentage of the public will believe this explanation. Which is what B.O.'s administration is counting on. From the very beginning, they set this up to make the insurance companies the "fall guy" so that when Obamacare fails to be "affordable" and the public has their fill of it, those that wanted a single payer system can say we tried it with using insurance companies. Thus, making the idea of a single payer system look more appealing to the public as a solution. In other words, giving what B.O. and others that support a single payer system exactly what they wanted in the first place.

[artist4perry]

I so look forward to 2016 when this post dies a natural political death. Politicians stink. That says it all.

[Monker]

"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."...berry

He's right.

"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous." -- Jesus.

[Monker]

ObamaCare: The Real Pain Starts This Year


If you are among the 150 million Americans who get health insurance through their employers, for example, chances are that the coverage your company offered for 2015 has much higher premiums than did last year’s plan. The President and his toad eaters in the legacy media will do their best to convince you that these increases are caused by insurance company avarice, but this is merely another lie they are peddling in the hope that they can save Obama’s “signature domestic achievement.”

A large percentage of the public will believe this explanation. Which is what B.O.'s administration is counting on. From the very beginning, they set this up to make the insurance companies the "fall guy" so that when Obamacare fails to be "affordable" and the public has their fill of it, those that wanted a single payer system can say we tried it with using insurance companies. Thus, making the idea of a single payer system look more appealing to the public as a solution. In other words, giving what B.O. and others that support a single payer system exactly what they wanted in the first place.

As is said in the 2,456,257 conservative conspiracy theory that is complete bullshit and will never happen.

[Monker]

Coming soon from the likes of the TNC's and Monker's of the world....I can't fucking wait, the wailing and gnashing of teeth will be something to behold..

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/06/us/he ... share&_r=0

Guess it's all sunshine and rainbows until you find out that you are not excluded from paying the price of what you support.

I haven't had a change in my benefits, or the cost of insurance in three years, including this year.. Whatever...you guys live in some weird fantasy where everything has gone to Hell and it's all Obama's fault. The simple truth is you are out of touch with reality and the politics of the situation.

This is a losing debate for Republicans. But, it's good fun watching you all shot yourself in the feet multiple times. Old white people are not the only voters out there, but that is all they cater to..and you demonize every other demographic. What do you think this is South Africa, 30 yrs ago?

[Monker]

I so look forward to 2016 when this post dies a natural political death. Politicians stink. That says it all.

It's not over, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I will start a President Hillary, Elizabeth or Jeb or Mitt or Scott thread in Nov 2016 but it will get nowhere near the 800,000 hits this thread has.

This thread may hit a million views by the time berry leaves DC.

If those are the only Republicans you can come up with, Clinton will win in a landslide. The field of Republicans is going to be more pathetic than ever. Ugh, I dread what this city is going to through in the coming months.

[Boomchild]

I haven't had a change in my benefits, or the cost of insurance in three years, including this year.. Whatever...you guys live in some weird fantasy where everything has gone to Hell and it's all Obama's fault. The simple truth is you are out of touch with reality and the politics of the situation.

It wasn't me reporting this news nor was it a story about my personal situation. However, it's similar to those in the article. It was about those that supported the AHCA being concerned about the rise in their own healthcare costs. BTW, it's not all Obama's fault. He can't do all these things alone due to the structure of our government. It's actually the fault of all of our political leadership. Regardless of party affiliation. They all suck.

[JBlake]

I so look forward to 2016 when this post dies a natural political death. Politicians stink. That says it all.

It's not over, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I will start a President Hillary, Elizabeth or Jeb or Mitt or Scott thread in Nov 2016 but it will get nowhere near the 800,000 hits this thread has.

This thread may hit a million views by the time berry leaves DC.

F Berry! And a bigger F to even the thought of Hildabeast.

[Boomchild]

I don't think clinton will run. If she does, she'll get Obamaed again. Look for the Dems to shove Elizabeth Warren as a "Moderate" down your throat. Of course every Republican will be a poor choice.

I would be very surprised if Hilary does not run. As far as choices go for the next POTUS, all of the choices Democrat or Republican, will be poor choices. The changes that this country needs is not going to come from elected officials. The system is now too corrupted to do what is right for this country.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Look for the Dems to shove Elizabeth Warren as a "Moderate" down your throat. Of course every Republican will be a poor choice.

Pretty obvious that the Dem establishment and insiders (think Hillary or Lawrence Summers) consider Warren to be a pain in the ass.

[Monker]

Because Monker says so!

What Monker said was in reply to couple posts that implied that I would be feeling the affects of Obamacare this year. I'm not, and I do not foresee it ever happening.

I also said you guys are living in some weird fantasyland where the world has gone to hell and it's all Obama's fault.

Your response to the above was to take my comments out of context and combined the two separate sentences into one. Then, you set out to PROVE my second statement by going on some weird rampage over ONE ta form and a few extra lines on the 1040.

My God, you guys are morons.

[Monker]

This is simply a misleading article, bordering on lying.

first of all, it's the refineries that produce gasoline...not drilling. So, frankly, it doesn't really matter where the oil comes from. If it is in the US, or Canada, or somewhere else, it has to be shipped to a refinery and processed to be gasoline, etc. So, drilling for more oil does NOT automagically affect the price of gasoline. In 2012, at a time of record production of domestic oil, gas prices were at their highest EVER.

Another FACT is, consumption of gasoline has been in decline since 2007. Fuel efficient cars, hybrids, even ''cash for clunkers' can be given credit for that - all Obama's policies.

So, simply giving credit to "drill, baby, drill' is simplistic, misleading, and NOT TRUE.

But, it's understandable since your brains have been trained to be spoon fed propaganda.

Lower Gas Prices? Thank ‘Drill, Baby, Drill’

The laws of supply and demand have brought relief to regular Americans.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/3 ... rich-lowry




Remember that crazy lady from Alaska getting reamed after saying this? Guess she was right huh?

[JBlake]

Because Monker says so!

What Monker said was in reply to couple posts that implied that I would be feeling the affects of Obamacare this year. I'm not, and I do not foresee it ever happening.

Cool, something else you have in common with the millions who are on welfare. They don't pay into it so they won't be feeling the effects of Obamacare either. BTW, how much "medicine" do you smoke every day?

[Boomchild]

I haven't had a change in my benefits, or the cost of insurance in three years, including this year..

If this is totally the truth, then you are in a very select minority. I am not buying this statement. Even those with Medicare\Medicare Advantage coverage have seen increases over this time frame. If you have an employer sponsored plan it could be that your employer is absorbing the premium increases which is not typical. If not and your premium hasn't gone up then I am willing to bet the benefits, deductibles or co-pays has changed in some way. Typically most people encounter premium increases and\or changes in benefits, deductibles and co-pays within the time period stated. Without details and specifics it very easy to make a claim such as this.

[Boomchild]

Cool, something else you have in common with the millions who are on welfare. They don't pay into it so they won't be feeling the effects of Obamacare either. BTW, how much "medicine" do you smoke every day?

Actually, I think everyone including those that receive Medicaid or fully subsidized healthcare will "feel it". Of course those actually paying for their insurance will feel it more since they will be paying for a larger group that are not. Everybody will feel it in the way of reduced quality of care and not enough doctors to handle the influx. It won't happen overnight so to speak but over time.

[Boomchild]

Boehner: House will fund Homeland Security, block Obama on immigration

The U.S. House of Representatives will vote to fully fund the Department of Homeland Security this week while blocking President Barack Obama's actions on immigration, House Speaker John Boehner said on Tuesday.

"Our goal here is to fund the Department of Homeland Security. And our second goal is to stop the president's executive overreach," Boehner told reporters.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... ar-AA87toN

What a pussy this guy is. Boehner should be calling it for what it is. It's unconstitutional. The POTUS does not have the power to change or circumvent laws passed by Congress and the Senate. This includes our current laws regarding immigration.