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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:44 am

Fact Finder wrote:From berry's press conference yesterday...

“What I’m not interested in doing is posing or pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning or whatever other slogans they come up with that has no relationship to what is actually going to work to protect the American people and to protect the people in the region who are getting killed and to protect our allies and people like France,” Obama said. “I’m too busy for that.”


Unreal. So American leadership and winning is a slogan? FUBO :twisted:


He's absolutely correct. Rushing in with American troops to fight a war in against ISIS without the committed support from partners in the region, as well as NATO allies, is futile and worthless. W already proved that by starting this entire mess in the first place. We should absolutely do no more then we are doing right now until other countries are willing to bleed as well.

"American leadership" should not equate to sacrificing our children so other countries in the region where the problem exists do not have to. "American leadership" should not mean that America bleeds so other countries do not have to. "American leadership" IS being used as a political "slogan" or phrase to put pressure on the President to yield and make a specific decision. He is ABSOLUTELY correct.

It's the right decision and I am glad Obama is doing the right thing rather than yielding to political pressure and the obvious knee jerk emotional response and instead is doing the right thing for this country. If the Arab nations along with our NATO allies are not willing to bleed along side American soldiers, then we should not sacrifice our country for them.

Shame on you and others for insisting we repeat our mistakes from the past because it is politically appealing.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:07 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:You are simply not reading my posts and you are injecting your own wacko meaning to them.

If you read the damn post that you quoted and replied to, and I requoted above, you would know that I'm NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.


Bottom line: Invoking 9/11 and the death of thousands is the refuge of a coward and she hid behind it. Deal with it.


Deal with what? I do not believe it is going to change much of anything. Again, Sanders did not have a good debate and O'Malley did. So, not much is going to change. Nothing much there to deal with...Clinton may be losing a couple points, Sanders losing more then Clinton, and O'Malley maybe becoming more of a contender by picking up the points others lost. Clinton is ahead by over 20pts...even a horrible debate, which this wasn't, could be absorbed and end up with Clinton keeping a commanding lead.

Monker wrote:Would you please quit posting shit and making YOUR OWN GAFFES? I'm not even going to comment on this one. You are just droning on and on about nonsense now.


Bottom line: She lied about having "mostly small donors"


The FACTS and data that I posted show that her donors may be mostly "small". It also depends on what is considered a "small donor".

and she played both the "gender card" and the 9/11 card. It was pathetic.


I don't think so. She knows she needs to win the women vote so it's smart politics to cater to that audience. She probably had the 9/11 comment ready but served it up in a bad context...and she'll take her lumps for that. But, pathetic is not what it was...politics is what it was. I would rather have a candidate trying to win votes then one, like Trump and most of the Republicans, who constantly alienate voters.

Debate Moderator...Debate Host...Debate Anchor...Debate Personality...who cares? You obviously are trying to discuss everything EXCEPT Hillary.


Not true. YOU just keep making huge gaffes in almost every post you make.

As I've said before, Trump is against "free trade" like NAFTA and TPP and also supports traditional Democratic programs like Medicare. For these reasons, he is not your typical Repub and is uniquely poised to win support from labor-minded Dems and independents. I know because I'm one of them. #Trump 2016.


Trump is a Republican who is talking to a different group of people then their traditional Republican candidate, that is true. But, you do not define everything that an independent is. I have never been affiliated with either party, and I never will. Trump has his own issues. Building his "wall" is unrealistic. Deporting 10,000,000 people is unrealistic. His foreign policy as a whole is unrealistic. He also wants to get rid of ObamaCare which is unrealistic. NONE of this stuff can be done. So, I will not vote for Trump until he comes down to Earth and starts taking these issues in a serious way. Kasich was absolutely correct in the last debate for criticizing the other candidates for making unrealistic proposals. Most of the Republicans, and especially Trump, are promoting policies that have no basis in reality....they are living in some type of fantasy.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:18 am

Fact Finder wrote:Monker wrote:
Shame on you and others for insisting we repeat our mistakes from the past because it is politically appealing.


It's not appealing dipwad, it's a necessity. :roll:

Where do you stand on letting these fucks into America?


If it is a necessity then it is a necessity for the Arab nations and our allies as well...and they should offer up their children to bleed and die alongside ours. THAT is war. THAT is what you want. If you are so eager to fight, then go over and be some type of mercenary. Otherwise, you are just another chicken-hawk Republican.

If you are going to call refugees "fucks" then your question deserves no answer. Perhaps when you realize that all of our ancestors who came over to this continent seeking a better life could also be called "fucks" by you, then you would realize how offensive your remarks really are. You are insulting your own nation when you say bullshit like that.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:03 am

Fact Finder wrote:It's not appealing dipwad, it's a necessity. :roll:

Where do you stand on letting these fucks into America?


What the necessity is for the people in that region of the world is to stand up and fight their own battles. Which they aren't doing. Their running from it or seem to be indifferent about it. How many more U.S. military personnel have to die before we realize we cannot solve the problem? Unless your willing to commit to a U.S. occupation of the entire region for eternity. Plus, nation building. Pouring more and more U.S. money into that shit hole of the world. Money we all clearly know this country doesn't have to give.

Personally, I see only two options. Completely pull out of that region of the world. Stop ALL aid and support to the region. Meaning, no financial aide, arms or assistance of any kind. Tell them that until that region gets it's act together and joins the rest of the civilized world to expect nothing from the U.S.. Meaning separation of church and state, human rights, change their views and actions towards women, have a justice system that recognizes innocent till proven guilty etc..

OR

If military action is the only solution, then drop enough WMDs on that region to push them back to the stone age. No ground troops, drone attacks or other half measures that have ZERO effect on the source of the problem.

As far as the refugees, I don't want them here period. I don't trust our system of government to be able to vet them. All you have to remember is we had an officer in our very own military that shot up people on a base right in this country. If you can't ferret out something like that then I don't trust you to be able to do well with foreigners seeking refuge in this country.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:42 am

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/1029372/379610

And, he's right.

Can we not learn anything from history? During WWIII the United States restricted Jews fleeing the holocaust. Out of fear that they may be Nazi's, we sent them back to be murdered by Nazi's. That should be just as embaressing for this country as the Japanese internment camps. http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php ... d=10007094

Now you all are acting in exactly the same way. You are so scared of ISIS that you would rather send women and children back to be raped and murdered then to allow them a way to escape such inhumane treatment. You would rather the Jews die in a concentration camp then allow them a way to escape the situation.

And, comparing human being to a mindless, heartless, soulless grape. Wow, and you call other people "fucks". You should not be a citizen of a country where one of our national symbols asks the world to give us their huddled masses. You should not be a citizen of a country whose declaration of independence says that all men are created equal. You should not be a citizen of a country that respects an individuals rights of all kinds. You are probably the one who should be sent to be ruled by an Islamic state.

When Bush started chipping away at our freedoms with the "Patriot Act", the terrorist won. Terrorism exists to cause fear and changed our values because of of that fear. They won.

Back in the 1800's, there was a potato famine in Ireland. People left the country because they were starving. Many of the refugees came through Ellis Island and settled in the northeast. Along with common Irish poor folk were a gang known as the Molly Maguires. Due to this group coming over back then, I believe that Irish immigrants and refugees have been responsible for more acts of terrorism in this country than any other group in our nations history.

There are no calls to ban the irish. There are no calls to not allow the Irish in certain states. Even when the Irish Republican Army was performing their acts of terrorism, I don't recall a huge push to ban the Irish from migrating to this nation.

And, they were Catholic. But, not Catholic enough for the American Catholic church. So, there were religious fights, too.

Nobody is saying to ban all Irish Catholics from coming into this country. Nobody is condemning all of Catholicism because of the acts of this one, small, splinter group that was very violent.

Nope...we would rather send Jews back to be gassed or women and children back to be raped and murdered.

That is what you all stand for. It's cowardly and pathetic.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:47 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Another one of Communist Comrad Monkers heros in trouble.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/3193068-155/ ... harry-reid


At least I'm not a proven liar, like you.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:05 pm

The U.S. is not obligated to accept these Syrian refugees. We have done more then our fair share of excepting refugees from all over the globe. I am not convinced that the option of relocating these refugees to other areas of the Middle East has been fully explored and exhausted. Due to potential risks it seems they don't want them either. B.O. keeps touting this "rigorous, unprecedented vetting program". However, just last month the director of the FBI spoke about this very same subject. In a nut shell he explained in order for it to work the person has to be in the database used to check for persons known to have links to terrorism or violent crimes. The problem is the database has very little information when comes to people located in Syria. It was much different when they were processing refugees from Iraq where they were able to build a much more comprehensive database due to our operations there. He said that with Syria it's a much different situation. Meaning not in a effectively good way. Based on this it seems to me that B.O. is not being truthful when it comes to our capabilities to identify threats in these groups of refugees. B.O. can't even call these people (ISIS) by who they really are. Which is Islamic Terrorists. Heck, he called the latest attacks in Paris a "set back". At every turn he seems to want to downplay the state of the situation. Their not so "contained" or "not gaining strength" as B.O. would like us to believe. It won't be long before ISIS successfully pulls off a operation in the U.S.. Letting these refugees in will only assist with their capabilities to do so.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:07 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:There was a idea tossed around last night to accept the women and children and send the men back to fight for their country instead of coming over here to hide and let everyone else do their fighting for them. One good hit on America and Democrats are done.


That may reduce the risk level. I don't think people have as much of an issue with the children. As far as the women that could be a possible threat. Women have been known to carry out suicide bombings. Putting the terrorism threat aside, we still should not be taking on these refugees. As I have said before, we have trouble supporting people already here that cannot support themselves. People just seem to think that our resources to do these kinds of things infinite. At a minimum, these refugees should only be brought in if the costs to care for them is TOTALLY from private funding. As far as the males, they should be sent back to fight for their country. I don't know if Syria has a military draft. If they don't they should.

Your point of the men coming over here to hide from the war explains a lot about the problem and why putting the lives of our military personnel and resources is futile. Their not going step up on their own as long as we and other nations rush in to do the job for them. That is why I am in favor of a complete and total pull out from the region as well as stopping all aid. That will force them to get involved or just succumb to tyranny and oppression by the Islamic extremists.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:12 am

You guys are pathetic.

So, you now want to split up families by keeping children and sending their parents back to die in Syria. You really have to have sick mind to believe in doing such a thing. To realize this all you have to do is consider sending Jews back to Nazi Germany. Yeah, if only those Jews had stood up to Hitler, things could have been a lot different. That is exactly what you are saying and it is very, very, perverted and sick.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:25 am

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:10 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Monker wrote:You guys are pathetic.

So, you now want to split up families by keeping children and sending their parents back to die in Syria. You really have to have sick mind to believe in doing such a thing. To realize this all you have to do is consider sending Jews back to Nazi Germany. Yeah, if only those Jews had stood up to Hitler, things could have been a lot different. That is exactly what you are saying and it is very, very, perverted and sick.


psst..just who is breaking up families???


Both KC and Boomchild. KC said there is talk about accepting women and children but sending men back to Syria. Then Boomchild said women have been known to carry suicide bombs, or whatever, too.


Syrian wives and mothers left behind condemn men who have fled the country, and ask: ‘Who will free us? Who will protect us?’ It is wrong to leave your country’



It's a war zone, dumbass. Of course men are leaving. I can't believe you people are so stupid that you buy into any random article you can find on the internet.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:36 am

Monker wrote:You guys are pathetic.

So, you now want to split up families by keeping children and sending their parents back to die in Syria. You really have to have sick mind to believe in doing such a thing. To realize this all you have to do is consider sending Jews back to Nazi Germany. Yeah, if only those Jews had stood up to Hitler, things could have been a lot different. That is exactly what you are saying and it is very, very, perverted and sick.


The U.S. is not obligated to accept these refugees. We already cannot support people in U.S. that cannot support themselves. The system is overloaded. We don't need to add to it. As far as splitting up families, I didn't say I support that notion. I support not accepting them period. I do not believe the option of relocating them to another area in the Middle East has been fully explored. All in all that would be best for them because they would still be in the same type of culture. As far as comparing this to the Jewish refugees during WWII, it wasn't the Jews that were the aggressors, it was the non Jewish Germans. Muslims are the ones conducting this war and the majority of these refugees are Muslims. I have no faith in our government being able to identify threats within these refugees. Spare me the bleeding heart liberal drivel. The safety and security of this country comes first and foremost. Which I know is an alien concept to bleeding heart liberals and is considered un-American. Funny how you seem to support the idea of us pulling out our military from the Middle East and letting those in the Middle East fight the battle. Then you come along and seem to be in support of giving those that should stand up and fight assistance with an avenue of escape. Bottom line it's their culture that is the cause of all this and therefore the burden is upon them not the U.S.. Funny how nobody focuses on how non Muslims i.e. Christians have nowhere to go in the Middle East. Not a peep from the Left on that one. Funny how our POTUS has no problem calling out Christians but can't bring himslef to call out Muslims.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:12 am

As far as comparing this to the Jewish refugees during WWII, it wasn't the Jews that were the aggressors, it was the non Jewish Germans. Muslims are the ones conducting this war and the majority of these refugees are Muslims.


How fucking stupid are you people? Even the propaganda spreading Republican party wants to call these people "Muslim Extremists". When they are raping and murdering women and children and blowing up their homes, they don't somehow skip over the Muslims and go after others. No. You are either for their radical and apocalyptic view of their version of their religion, or you are in the way and need to die.

This is EXACTLY the same thing. When you send them back, you are sending them to their death. That is the truth.

I have no faith in our government being able to identify threats within these refugees.


That's because you ignore the FACT that out of all of the refugees since 9/11 - NONE OF THEM HAVE COMMITTED AN ACT OF TERRORISM. Your cowardly paranoia is unfounded and you are being used as a political tool

This reminds me of the hysteria a couple years ago. If you took the Republican propaganda seriously, we were about to have an Ebola epidemic. Bullshit...anybody who knew facts knew it was complete bullshit.

You are believing the bullshitters again.

Spare me the bleeding heart liberal drivel. The safety and security of this country comes first and foremost.


Then start preaching about gun laws so the mentally ill can not own a gun, or be trained to use a gun, and guns and ammo not being sold at gun shows. That is MUCH more of a safety and security issue for this country then refugees.

But, of course, you are just a tool.

Which I know is an alien concept to bleeding heart liberals and is considered un-American.


No...what is an "alien concept" is refugees = security threat. That is bullshit that has no historical fact to back it up.

Funny how you seem to support the idea of us pulling out our military from the Middle East and letting those in the Middle East fight the battle. Then you come along and seem to be in support of giving those that should stand up and fight assistance with an avenue of escape.


These are not soldiers, dumb-ass. And, if we do pull out and the middle east does try to care of this themselves (IE: other countries in the region fighting this war, which is what I meant), the issue of refugees is going to be even more urgent. I am consistent on this issue....soldiers fight wars - not civilians.

Bottom line it's their culture that is the cause of all this and therefore the burden is upon them not the U.S..


And, the culture of Nazi-ism was the cause of the holocaust. The culture of the Kmer Rogue was the cause of the attempted genocide in Cambodia. The culture of ISIS is causing the EXACT SAME THING...the death of anybody in that region who does not agree with their extreme version of Islam. But, you would rather send all of those refugees back, to die in gas chambers and killing fields, or the deserts of the middle east.

Funny how nobody focuses on how non Muslims i.e. Christians have nowhere to go in the Middle East. Not a peep from the Left on that one. Funny how our POTUS has no problem calling out Christians but can't bring himslef to call out Muslims.


Well, according your policy, they need to take arms and fight for their security in their own country.

IMO, whether they are Muslim or Christian, they are still refugees from ISIS. It's your argument and wimpy fear that wants to concentrate on the fact that most of the refugees are Muslim.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:15 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Obama got his ass kicked. Boehner is gone. It's a new ball game. no family reunion for Monker.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/26078 ... n-refugees


What are you talking about? Did you even read the article? Or, are you just trying to post more lies...cuz everybody knows you are a proven liar.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:00 pm

Monker wrote:How fucking stupid are you people? Even the propaganda spreading Republican party wants to call these people "Muslim Extremists". When they are raping and murdering women and children and blowing up their homes, they don't somehow skip over the Muslims and go after others. No. You are either for their radical and apocalyptic view of their version of their religion, or you are in the way and need to die.

This is EXACTLY the same thing. When you send them back, you are sending them to their death. That is the truth.


Did I say send them back to the war zone. No. I said I do not believe that the U.S. and the rest of the world has not put enough pressure on the areas of the Middle East where these refugees can find refuge. Our leadership is weak when it comes to this. All of this does not change the fact that our system that would support such refugees is overloaded as it is. Which has got nothing to do with where the people are coming from. What is fucking stupid as you would put it, are people not realizing that. BTW, just how many of these refugees have signed up to take in yourself?

Monker wrote:That's because you ignore the FACT that out of all of the refugees since 9/11 - NONE OF THEM HAVE COMMITTED AN ACT OF TERRORISM. Your cowardly paranoia is unfounded and you are being used as a political tool

This reminds me of the hysteria a couple years ago. If you took the Republican propaganda seriously, we were about to have an Ebola epidemic. Bullshit...anybody who knew facts knew it was complete bullshit.

You are believing the bullshitters again.


Speaking of 9-11, where did those that perpetrated those attacks come from? The Middle East. Whether they get here by a visa or refugee program it doesn't matter. That's just trying to skirt around a true threat. What is bullshit is those that want to ignore or don't believe what the director of the FBI said just last month. Which is the database that would be used to screen the refugees has very little information about the people in the region of Syria. Meaning, it is unlikely that it would be effective in the screening process. I have yet to see anyone else in the FBI, CIA or any of our other intelligence agencies rebut that statement. In addition to that, our intelligence agencies have stated that they believe there are already ISIS operatives in every single state of the U.S.. Therefore I don't see the need to provide more open doors form them build upon that.

Monker wrote:Then start preaching about gun laws so the mentally ill can not own a gun, or be trained to use a gun, and guns and ammo not being sold at gun shows. That is MUCH more of a safety and security issue for this country then refugees.

But, of course, you are just a tool.


Your really have a short term memory problem. I have already posted here that I am not opposed to changing our gun licensing practices to reduce the chances of people with mental illnesses obtain a fire arm. I also made it clear that I am in support of stopping the direct sale of firearms at gun shows.

Monker wrote:These are not soldiers, dumb-ass. And, if we do pull out and the middle east does try to care of this themselves (IE: other countries in the region fighting this war, which is what I meant), the issue of refugees is going to be even more urgent. I am consistent on this issue....soldiers fight wars - not civilians
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And just who makes up soldiers? Civilians who are drafted, volunteer or are required to enlist. Last I checked there are young able bodied males that certainly would meet the criteria to be able to fight. But of course were supposed to believe these are just helpless women and children. Spare me.


Monker wrote:And, the culture of Nazi-ism was the cause of the holocaust. The culture of the Kmer Rogue was the cause of the attempted genocide in Cambodia. The culture of ISIS is causing the EXACT SAME THING...the death of anybody in that region who does not agree with their extreme version of Islam. But, you would rather send all of those refugees back, to die in gas chambers and killing fields, or the deserts of the middle east.


I see, so now ISIS has gas chambers like the Nazis did? That ISIS is now at the same scale as WWII was. Well I guess you need to text B.O. and let him know that. Because according to him this isn't even really a war. It's just a small bunch of radicals. All that has recently happened is just a little "set back" in this little skirmish. They aren't gaining strength, for the most part their "contained". So why are you so concerned?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:15 pm

They are Apocalyptic and as Moniker said, you are either part of their suicide mission or need to be killed.
They have no illusions of winning any "war" which is why don't care who they piss off. There is a refugee crisis because
Instead of NATO or an Islamic alliance providing save haven where they were it was leave or die. The best thing for them and us
Would be to remove the suicide group from Syria and let them live where it is home.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:18 pm

While we are on the subject of refugees from the Middle East, let me share a personal experience with two of them. An Iraqi couple and their two children were allowed refugee status here in the U.S.. They received assistance from both government and private agencies. Instead of finding legitimate work, they felt exploiting our governmental support system and a life crime would be the better way to go. This couple decided to befriend my 77yr old father who is suffering from the early stages of alzheimer's disease. Before we could uncover what was going on, they had committed identity theft, credit card theft, robbery and extortion on my father. The financial loss to my father was in excess of $200,000. Any one that is aware of what alzheimer's does to a person knows that long term care for this condition is extraordinarily expensive. Now because of these dirt bag refugees my father will more then likely not be able to pay for the long term care he is going to need. And they didn't stop there either. The wife cooked up a phony back problem in order to get SS disability payments. They had their children taken from them by CPS because they thought it was a good idea to tie their children to furniture at home while they went to the store. To insult to injury my father help them with their CPS case and covered legal costs they incurred. The fully furnished home they were living in at the time was provided to them for free. They then took money they extorted from my father and purchased another home and took all the furniture from the previous home which was property of the owner. The husband who my father helped get citizenship for, took trips back to the Middle East so he could bring other women back to U.S. as his spouse which he was paid for. Unfortunately for him upon returning from his last trip back, he was detained and held for extradition due to us going to the authorities and successfully having a warrant issued for his arrest.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:53 am

Boomchild wrote:While we are on the subject of refugees from the Middle East, let me share a personal experience with two of them. An Iraqi couple and their two children were allowed refugee status here in the U.S.. They received assistance from both government and private agencies. Instead of finding legitimate work, they felt exploiting our governmental support system and a life crime would be the better way to go. This couple decided to befriend my 77yr old father who is suffering from the early stages of alzheimer's disease. Before we could uncover what was going on, they had committed identity theft, credit card theft, robbery and extortion on my father. The financial loss to my father was in excess of $200,000. Any one that is aware of what alzheimer's does to a person knows that long term care for this condition is extraordinarily expensive. Now because of these dirt bag refugees my father will more then likely not be able to pay for the long term care he is going to need. And they didn't stop there either. The wife cooked up a phony back problem in order to get SS disability payments. They had their children taken from them by CPS because they thought it was a good idea to tie their children to furniture at home while they went to the store. To insult to injury my father help them with their CPS case and covered legal costs they incurred. The fully furnished home they were living in at the time was provided to them for free. They then took money they extorted from my father and purchased another home and took all the furniture from the previous home which was property of the owner. The husband who my father helped get citizenship for, took trips back to the Middle East so he could bring other women back to U.S. as his spouse which he was paid for. Unfortunately for him upon returning from his last trip back, he was detained and held for extradition due to us going to the authorities and successfully having a warrant issued for his arrest.


What a horrible experience. And from people that should not have been here in the first place, Sadly we have a so called President who gets more angry at the press then isis or even illegals. As someone who has personal experience with the nightmare Alzheimers inflicts on a person and family, I can't imagine having it compounded by scum such as that.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:45 pm

RPM wrote:What a horrible experience. And from people that should not have been here in the first place, Sadly we have a so called President who gets more angry at the press then isis or even illegals. As someone who has personal experience with the nightmare Alzheimers inflicts on a person and family, I can't imagine having it compounded by scum such as that.


It makes the whole thing a harder nightmare to deal with. Especially when it robs the person of their cognitive abilities and they can't see this type of thing coming. They are slipping away and you can't do a damn thing about it. Then you have to clean up the aftermath of what scum like this did to your parent. These people come from a ass backwards, violent and primitive society. People feel we need to inject them into our society by putting a false face on what and who makes up their culture.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:17 pm

Sure, that person wronged your family. There is no excuse or defense for such a thing. However, convicting an entire race of people, or even all refugees and/or immigrants, for that act one or a few people does not provide any type of justice either.

Also, saying that Obama is not expressing or acting out in anger is a great compliment. I would MUCH rather have a President who makes decisions from a sound heart and mind then one who makes knee jerk decisions based on emotions. We already did that with W when he went to war in Iraq and gave birth to most of this situation in the first place.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:22 pm

Guess Canada's is racist and running in fear. They have announced that they will not accept any single male Syrian refugees.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:27 pm

Boomchild wrote:Guess Canada's is racist and running in fear. They have announced that they will not accept any single male Syrian refugees.


Yes, they are.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:30 pm

Monker wrote:Also, saying that Obama is not expressing or acting out in anger is a great compliment. I would MUCH rather have a President who makes decisions from a sound heart and mind then one who makes knee jerk decisions based on emotions. We already did that with W when he went to war in Iraq and gave birth to most of this situation in the first place.


Questioning admitting refugees from Syria is not a knee jerk reaction. Especially when you consider:

The Director of the FBI has stated that there are big flaws to the database that would be used to vet the refugees.
It was released that this administration halted processing Iraqi refugees form six months in 2011 because the FBI uncovered several dozen terrorists slipped through that program.

It's been reported that fake Syrian passports are very prevalent. Being used by terrorists and well as those in the Middle East that would not qualify for the Syrian refugee program.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:00 am

Pentagon Confirms: Warning Pamphlets Dropped on Islamic State ‘to Minimize the Risks to Civilians’

“We can confirm that leaflets were used prior to air strike operations in the area near Al-Bukamal, as part of Operation Tidal Wave II,” the source said. “The leaflets are used to minimize the risks to civilians.”

The leaflets read: “Get out of your trucks now and run away from them.”

Another message stated: “Warning: airstrikes are coming. Oil trucks will be destroyed. Get away from your oil trucks immediately. Do not risk your life,” according to the Pentagon.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... civilians/


What a good idea! Why bother with leaflets. Just send the enemy your strategy plans directly. :roll:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:14 pm

Interesting data and statistics on the subject of gun control in this video. It's worth a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQP ... RA&index=1
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:19 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Don't worry Boomchild. Obama will solve this by finding ISIS jobs and solving global warming by doubling our taxes. This guy should be impeached for being a clueless idiot. He is dangerous to American security. The only good thing is after a big strike in america, democrats will be done. Too bad a strike here is simply a matter of time.


That is if whatever happens doesn't plunge us into WWIII. If WW breaks outs between now and before the 2016 elections you can bet that the B.O. administration will look for a way to postpone the elcetion to allow B.O. to stay in office.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:37 am

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Don't worry Boomchild. Obama will solve this by finding ISIS jobs and solving global warming by doubling our taxes. This guy should be impeached for being a clueless idiot. He is dangerous to American security. The only good thing is after a big strike in america, democrats will be done. Too bad a strike here is simply a matter of time.


That is if whatever happens doesn't plunge us into WWIII. If WW breaks outs between now and before the 2016 elections you can bet that the B.O. administration will look for a way to postpone the elcetion to allow B.O. to stay in office.


Oh, please, that is such a ridiculous comment. He will very willingly pass the title back to the Clinton's.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:34 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I gotta agree with monker here. I think Obama will be more then happy to pass his blame on anyone it might stick too. After all, just look at his track record.


There you go lying again. That is NOT what I said. Just more proof that you are a liar.

I said "He will very willingly pass the title back to the Clinton's." That means the title of "President"...since Boomchild was saying Obaama would try to stay in power.

But, if you want to agree with me that Clinton will be the next President, that's fine with me.

As for passing blame. When W was President, the Republicans had no problem blaming Clinton for the recession because there was a small downward movement in the economy. When W. was President, after they fucked up getting Bin Laden when he was cornered but allowed him to escape because W would not send more forces to keep him contained, they quickly blamed Clinton for not killing him when he had the chance. When Katrina hit, instead of taking the blame for not getting emergency supplies to the needy and evacuating the sick and the old, he blamed local government. W took responsibility for NOTHING.

If Obama blames W too much, well, he inherited that attitude from the master.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:11 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:There is no end to your twisting of reality and just plain bullshit. You are what you are. A liar and traitor.


I have proven you are a liar multiple times. If you could prove I have lied about something, you would have already. You just can't help but lie in almost every post you make, or you quote or post a link to someone else lying.

Now you are so desperate that you are calling me a traitor.

The true traitors of this country are the Republicans during Obama's first term who obstructed everything he attempted to do in in an attempt to limit his presidency to one term. They put their own agenda of limiting Obama to one term ahead of the needs of this country....at a time when W had led us to an economic collapse and the country NEEDED bipartisanship to help get us out.

Funny thing is that you insane Republicans turned on those leaders like McConnell, and Boehner. Paul Ryan was there, too. I'll give him until the end of next year and you will turn on him, too.
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