They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

"Conspiring against the United States". The first charge on the list. When will shit get serious with you?

Since you brought this up, here is a link to the actual indictment. The conspiracy against the United States charges starts on page 23. Please point to me where there are charges that directly or indirectly charge President Trump and "Russian Collusion".

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

[Monker]

"Conspiring against the United States". The first charge on the list. When will shit get serious with you?

Since you brought this up, here is a link to the actual indictment. The conspiracy against the United States charges starts on page 23. Please point to me where there are charges that directly or indirectly charge President Trump and "Russian Collusion".

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

Please explain to me why you believe there should be charges against Donald Judas Trump when the indictment was not directed at him, but two other people.

Also, I would like to see any indictments for Papalopalingodingalopalous that exist...just out of curiosity.

[Monker]

"Conspiring against the United States". The first charge on the list. When will shit get serious with you?

Since you brought this up, here is a link to the actual indictment. The conspiracy against the United States charges starts on page 23. Please point to me where there are charges that directly or indirectly charge President Trump and "Russian Collusion".

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

Damn Monker, Those damn facts and reality. They just keep making a liar out of you. Well, that and your "news sources".

What lie?

[Monker]

About the same time you get serious about Benghazi

That was investigated for years by congressional committee and special counsel and nothing was found. You should be embarrassed in comparing that to Trump's issues which are only now STARTING to produce results. All you care about is prosecuting Hillary, not protecting the country. If you cared about the country, you would focus on current events, not ancient history. Clinton had MULTIPLE days in front of congress, was scrutinized by the FBI and AG and was not taken to court. She won, you lost. Get over it. You would think as much as Trump fans say the same thing about the election, they can follow their own words.

It was FOUND that the administration which included Hillary lied to the nation and directly to the victims families that the attack was a result of a backlash over a anti-Islam video posted on YT.

So? If lying to the American public is a crime than Trump should executed by stoning of those who lied to. There would be millions waiting in line.

It left the unanswered question of why the ambassador was at the embassy when all other embassies had been evacuated due to the instability in Benghazi.

Not true. Did you watch the hearings? She was questioned extensively and repeatedly on this..

It also left the unanswered question of why the embassy's request for additional security were left unanswered and\or ignored.

Again, not true...she was questioned repeatedly on this as well.

Go back and watch the last hearing, if you can stay awake. All of this was talked about extensively and repetitively. You'll have your answers. I shouldn't have to do your research for you.

The bottom line is NONE of this is "criminal". You may believe it is "wrong"...that somebody made a bad decision, or Hillary made a bad decision...but it is not criminal and it has been looked at MULTIPLE TIMES already.

Why are you a hypocrite and will not accept the results of all of these inquiries? Accept the FACT that she won....and admit that Trump has to do swallow the pill of going through similar scrutiny. If any new investigation should happen it should be for Niger, not Benghazi.

[Monker]

"Conspiring against the United States". The first charge on the list. When will shit get serious with you?

It will get serious with me when they PROVE something. So far NOTHING has been proven. In fact, a lot of things have been debunked. Things like the 17 agencies and infamous Trump Dossier. If you are such a champion for truth, then you should be calling for all the "evidence" to be looked at by the FBI and Mueller. If that's the case then common sense would dictate that the DNC needs to turn over the servers they claim were "hacked".

"17 agencies" is not going to get Trump indicted. The dossier by itself will not get Trump indicted.

I do not know if Mueller looked at the servers. Do you? Did you know Papalopadingalingalous plead guilty and was gathering evidence for the past few months? Nobody did...because Mueller and his staff do not discuss what evidence they have.

You want to use only public evidence to convict Trump. That's not how it works. And, considering how often and flippantly Trump LIES...THAT will land him in jail before anything else.

The way I see it is that you will not take it serious until Trump is in jail...and that will be too late.

[Monker]

Are you implying that Trump is not being investigated for collusion, obstruction of justice, and various financial crimes?

What Comey is saying below was true at the time....but, when Trump fired him, Trump himself guaranteed he would be investigated along with his entire administration and family. Bullet meet foot.

Monker has selective amnesia as well as being a member of the Keepers of odd Knowledge Society. Let's refresh our memories shall we...

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau," Trump wrote in his letter firing Comey.

In his opening statement posted on the Senate intelligence committee, Comey describes four times the issue of whether Trump was under investigation came up.

The first time, on January 6, occurred when Comey went to Trump Tower to brief the President-elect along with intelligence leaders. As CNN reported, it was agreed that Comey would pull aside Trump and explain a dossier of allegations of Russian ties to Trump's campaign. Comey had discussed with FBI leadership what to say if Trump asked if he was under investigation. Comey writes he was ready to assure Trump he was not. In the end: "During our one-on-one meeting at Trump Tower, based on (Trump's) reaction to the briefing and without him directly asking the question, I offered that assurance."

The second time, during the January 27 dinner, was more nuanced. The President brought up the dossier that he had been briefed on at Trump Tower. "He said he was considering ordering me to investigate the alleged incident to prove it didn't happen. I replied that he should give that careful thought because it might create a narrative that we were investigating him personally, which we weren't, and because it was very difficult to prove a negative. He said he would think about it and asked me to think about it."

In a March 30 phone call, Comey "explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump. I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, 'We need to get that fact out.'"

Despite Trump saying there were three instances where it came up, there's a fourth incident where the investigation came up, according to

"On the morning of April 11, the President called me and asked what I had done about his request that I 'get out' that he is not personally under investigation. I replied that I had passed his request to the Acting Deputy Attorney General, but I had not heard back. He replied that 'the cloud' was getting in the way of his ability to do his job. He said that perhaps he would have his people reach out to the Acting Deputy Attorney General. I said that was the way his request should be handled."

[verslibre]

I wonder how long it takes before liberals figure out they simply offend people? This ad will of course offend Conservatives, but also people on the fence. Keep it up libs. PLEASE keep it up. Liberals left out a Asian child by the way. Racists.

https://thefederalist.com/2017/10/30/de ... murderers/

How long will it take Trump fans to understand that saying "fine people" march with Nazi's offended the entire nation?

Not really. Most people understood what he meant. Then there were liberals looking for anything. What they haven't learned is, no one cares what you think anymore.

[Boomchild]

Please explain to me why you believe there should be charges against Donald Judas Trump when the indictment was not directed at him, but two other people.

Also, I would like to see any indictments for Papalopalingodingalopalous that exist...just out of curiosity.

I didn't say there should be charges. My point is that this has NOTHING to do with Trump at all. So here we sit with a special investigation on Trump Russian collusion and Russian interference in a federal election and still no links or actual evidence of such. That is why I am not "getting serious".

[Boomchild]

So? If lying to the American public is a crime than Trump should executed by stoning of those who lied to. There would be millions waiting in line.

Funny how you blow off the past admiinistration's blatant lie but want Trump held accountable for accusations of lying. The real question is what was the purpose of the FAKE explanation for the attack on the embassy? By your response it's clear that you are only interested in truth and justice when it doesn't fit with your positions and way of thinking.

[Boomchild]

"17 agencies" is not going to get Trump indicted. The dossier by itself will not get Trump indicted.

I do not know if Mueller looked at the servers. Do you? Did you know Papalopadingalingalous plead guilty and was gathering evidence for the past few months? Nobody did...because Mueller and his staff do not discuss what evidence they have.

You want to use only public evidence to convict Trump. That's not how it works. And, considering how often and flippantly Trump LIES...THAT will land him in jail before anything else.

The way I see it is that you will not take it serious until Trump is in jail...and that will be too late.

The reality is there is nothing that has PROVEN the collusion exists. In fact, just the opposite has happened with the information made public. You want to use the "classified information" defense. The main problem is, if it's classified, you have no way of knowing about it. You are attempting to create a innuendo that something is there. You have NOTHING to prove that the collusion exists. Last I checked our justice system operates under "innocent UNTIL proven guilty". So with that in mind I am going to give our President that benefit. As far as the DNC servers go, since they would not let the FBI examine them that puts Mueller's ability to access them in question.

[Boomchild]

Not a shock for conservatives I'm sure.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11/01/ ... ign=buffer

Iran sponsoring Al-Qaeda, now there's a shocker. So glad Barry flew a plane load of cash to Iran before exiting the office.

[Monker]

So? If lying to the American public is a crime than Trump should executed by stoning of those who lied to. There would be millions waiting in line.

Funny how you blow off the past admiinistration's blatant lie but want Trump held accountable for accusations of lying. The real question is what was the purpose of the FAKE explanation for the attack on the embassy? By your response it's clear that you are only interested in truth and justice when it doesn't fit with your positions and way of thinking.

"blow off" lying is not the point. The point is, it's not illegal. You want to to reopen Benghazi hearings to prove Clinton/Obama lied, or because you believe it is a fact that they lied? That is frankly a waste of time and money.

As far as Trump goes, he and his administration LIE on a constant basis. Right from the first sentences of "largest inauguration crowd ever" to the recent lies about terrorism. All he does is lie. He says something stupid...then lies and says that he didn't say itit, even though it is on video. He said he wanted to put the recent terrorist at Gitmo...well, it's not up to him...it's up to the DOJ. He says terrorists do not have harsh enough sentences...the last federal terrorist, the marathon bomber has life in prison. He whines that it isn't fast enough....so what? They are jailed without bail. He is a salesman of lies.

[Boomchild]

"blow off" lying is not the point. The point is, it's not illegal. You want to to reopen Benghazi hearings to prove Clinton/Obama lied, or because you believe it is a fact that they lied? That is frankly a waste of time and money.

I didn't say that it was illegal. It's unethical and it raises the question of what was the motivation behind it. Which I noticed you haven't commented on. One gets the impression that if it's not illegal then for you it doesn't matter. Except of course if it is someone you oppose. It does matter. Imagine being one of the victim's family members and you are looked directly in the eye and told such a lie. Nowhere did I say I want the Benghazi investigation reopened. I agree that it is a waste of time. Not for the same reasons as you may. With how corrupt our government is the public never seems to get a straight truthful answer. Which is not just a one party issue.

He said he wanted to put the recent terrorist at Gitmo...well, it's not up to him...it's up to the DOJ. He says terrorists do not have harsh enough sentences...the last federal terrorist, the marathon bomber has life in prison. He whines that it isn't fast enough....so what? They are jailed without bail. He is a salesman of lies.

So what if he said that is what he would like to do? It's up to someone that's part of his administration and now they know what his thoughts are on it. As far as his comment of sentences for terrorist, some may think life in prison is enough while others may not. I for example would approve of the death penalty. He is expressing an opinion and last I checked that is acceptable in this country.

[verslibre]

More proof of a rigged election. DNC Chair speaks out.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donna-bra ... nst-bernie

Hillary is gonna have bad road rash being dragged under multiple busses before this is over, but, she'll have plenty of time to heal in Club Fed.


"Sorry to keep you waiting folks, it's a complicated business."

Hillary's about as likely headed for Club Fed as Trumpet was for 'Nam.

[verslibre]

Yep, back in those days Trump was a liberal Democrat. Thank God he learned from his mistakes.

Fail. His political leanings "back then" had nothing to do with his not going to 'Nam. Had he been a staunch Republican, he still wouldn't have gone. "Bone spurs."

[Memorex]

Monker caught in another lie.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... memos-show

I don't think there is any purpose to engaging Monker about Hillary anymore. If he cannot see that she was the single most corrupt politician that we have ever seen, he's not going to. Moe likely, because I think he does have a brain, is his replies are just sport. Fun. Just poking back with a stick is all. I certainly don't think he believes she is a decent person, or even a decent politician. He may still would have liked her over Trump, but he knows full well what she is. Everyone does. Now that the Clintons no longer have a shred of power, people are starting to speak. But no one here needs people to speak to see what she is. It's just obvious and has been for over 25-30 years.

[steveo777]

Monker caught in another lie.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... memos-show

I don't think there is any purpose to engaging Monker about Hillary anymore. If he cannot see that she was the single most corrupt politician that we have ever seen, he's not going to. Moe likely, because I think he does have a brain, is his replies are just sport. Fun. Just poking back with a stick is all. I certainly don't think he believes she is a decent person, or even a decent politician. He may still would have liked her over Trump, but he knows full well what she is. Everyone does. Now that the Clintons no longer have a shred of power, people are starting to speak. But no one here needs people to speak to see what she is. It's just obvious and has been for over 25-30 years.

The Clinton power and influence for that 25-30 years is exactly what's kept them out of prison. Also, as we know, many associates of theirs have wound up dead. They were a power to reckon with...WERE. Their house of cards is coming down and people in the democratic party are turning on her. Her reign of crime has come to an end and she may finally face justice. If Mueller is truly conducting non biased, non partisan investigations, he's gotta have a ton of evidence to indict her.

[verslibre]

Yep, back in those days Trump was a liberal Democrat. Thank God he learned from his mistakes.

Fail. His political leanings "back then" had nothing to do with his not going to 'Nam. Had he been a staunch Republican, he still wouldn't have gone. "Bone spurs."

Trump was a Democrat back then.PERIOD. Could care less what you "think".

Which again had nothing to do with how he got out of it. You're just dodging because you worship at the altar of his carrot.

[Boomchild]

Monker caught in another lie.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... memos-show

NRC officials said they could not disclose the total amount of uranium that Uranium One exported because the information is proprietary. They did, however, say that the shipments only lasted from 2012 to 2014 and that they are unaware of any exports since then.

This part of the statement smells of plausible deniability. I would bet ten to one there was more exported then what they have admitted to. But as Queen Hillary would say: " At this point what does it matter". After all, the nuclear agreement with Iran is a total joke and in my view a bigger problem then this.

[Boomchild]

Which again had nothing to do with how he got out of it. You're just dodging because you worship at the altar of his carrot.

It would have been better publicity if he had served and then in a public stunt thrown his medals back at the government. Not the actual medals but fake ones. Ketchup anyone? Also if had served in Nam maybe he wouldn't need the orange tan.

[The_Noble_Cause]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5633796736001/?#sp=show-clips

http://video.foxnews.com/v/563382198600 ... show-clips

Here TNC, this lays out nicely how Clinton screwed Sanders over and what laws were broken. It also goes after Sanders for selling out. He caved for speaking engagments and payoffs. They also go after Sessions.

Thanks KC.
Remember how during the primaries anyone who pointed out the obvious rigging was was labeled a misogynist "bernie bro"?
Other facts - Republicans had 11 televised debates and Hillary wanted only 4 Dem TV debates. The majority of the Dem debates aired on the least watched night of the week - Saturday or Sunday. Also, Wikileaks revealed that Team Hillary discussed attacking Sander's religion. It goes on and on.

[Boomchild]

I remember Hillary was dodging the public, which spoke to the rumors of her health. That photo of her and Bill where she shit her pants, and then she passed out getting into her car, being carried up steps, didn't help. For two months, she hardly spoke to the press or public.

You missed the other one where they showed her getting on her plane and falling flat on her face when she got to the door of it. Speculations were out there that she was being drugged up and\or she had been drinking. I know there were campaign people that spoke out who witnessed she was drinking heavily on election night when she realized yet again she wasn't going to be POTUS. Also, it was also stated that she went on a rant blaming Obama for her loss.

[Monker]

Yep, back in those days Trump was a liberal Democrat. Thank God he learned from his mistakes.

Fail. His political leanings "back then" had nothing to do with his not going to 'Nam. Had he been a staunch Republican, he still wouldn't have gone. "Bone spurs."

You are a fool if you believe the "bone spur" story. He has invented multiple conflicting stories about why he didn't go...'bone spurs' is just one of several invented reasons. He didn't go because he is from a rich family who ensured he didn't have to go. Just like W, and others.

[Monker]

This article has nothing to do with Clinton.

Monker caught in another lie.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... memos-show

I don't think there is any purpose to engaging Monker about Hillary anymore. If he cannot see that she was the single most corrupt politician that we have ever seen, he's not going to. Moe likely, because I think he does have a brain, is his replies are just sport. Fun. Just poking back with a stick is all. I certainly don't think he believes she is a decent person, or even a decent politician. He may still would have liked her over Trump, but he knows full well what she is. Everyone does. Now that the Clintons no longer have a shred of power, people are starting to speak. But no one here needs people to speak to see what she is. It's just obvious and has been for over 25-30 years.

The Clinton power and influence for that 25-30 years is exactly what's kept them out of prison. Also, as we know, many associates of theirs have wound up dead. They were a power to reckon with...WERE. Their house of cards is coming down and people in the democratic party are turning on her. Her reign of crime has come to an end and she may finally face justice. If Mueller is truly conducting non biased, non partisan investigations, he's gotta have a ton of evidence to indict her.

[Monker]

If Mueller is truly conducting non biased, non partisan investigations, he's gotta have a ton of evidence to indict her.

For what? Invented fake news from the alt-right? There is no crime there. Firing and replacing the AG isn't going to change that. It's all just a distraction from the corruption in Trump the Traitor's administration....and it works really well on people like you and KC.

[verslibre]

Yep, back in those days Trump was a liberal Democrat. Thank God he learned from his mistakes.

Fail. His political leanings "back then" had nothing to do with his not going to 'Nam. Had he been a staunch Republican, he still wouldn't have gone. "Bone spurs."

You are a fool if you believe the "bone spur" story. He has invented multiple conflicting stories about why he didn't go...'bone spurs' is just one of several invented reasons. He didn't go because he is from a rich family who ensured he didn't have to go. Just like W, and others.

That was exactly my point, hence the quote marks around "bone spurs."

But don't tell anyone who worships the guy. They'll just call you unpatriotic or something else just as weird.

[Boomchild]

I'll bet shes drugged up and drinking now.

Speaking about the decline of the Clinton's power and influence in D.C., I think that they still have been able to cling onto some of that. Behind the scenes so to speak. I found what Lionel Lebron (Lionel Nation) recently has said about Hillary very interesting. He contends that the Democrats especially the those that are hard left are sick and tired of her. So much so that he thinks they are going to "throw her under the bus" to rid the party of her presence. If you know Lionel, he does not ascribe to any party affiliation and is critical of just about every politician out there. Still he seems to have a more liberal mindset then another. So this may get very interesting. As far as her being charged and prosecuted, I'm skeptical about that. Mainly due to the fact that if that would happen it would take down other key figures in our government. Those that either had a hand in her corrupt actions or were aware of it and did nothing to expose and stop it.

Also, since there has been mention upon mention of Trump "lying", he's not gaining any ground when it comes to Hillary. Just look at recent history. She lied about her email setup being within the guidelines of the State Department's protocols. She lied when she said that she turned over ALL government business emails from her private email account. She lied when she said that she was using only ONE device for communication of government business. She lied that she did not use said devices when abroad in countries that are known to try and hack\surveil such devices. She lied when she said that Colin Powell suggested that it was OK to use a private email server. More recently while on her book tour she has stated that Wikileaks is a Russian run organization. Oh and lets not forget she and Bill pilfered the WH when his term was up. Only turn over the stolen items when a demand was made to do so.

[Boomchild]

What's Bill Clinton or Obama's service record? Who gives a fuck?

At the time Barry Soetoro presented documents to show he was not a U.S. citizen. Therefore could not be drafted.

[verslibre]

What's Bill Clinton or Obama's service record? Who gives a fuck?

Let's discuss McCain's.

Don't give yourself a stroke, KC.

(I don't mean the one you're constantly giving yourself with your dachshund's right paw while you type your one-handed posts. )

[Boomchild]

:lol:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/p ... crats.html

“The double standard that applies to women in politics is alive and well,” Mrs. Clinton said in a so-called fireside chat with Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California. “‘Ambitious’ is a compliment for men and it’s not for women.”

At least with you Hillary, it wasn't because you have a c*nt. It's because of who you are as human being.

Note: It appears the software used for this forum is now blocking and filtering out words. When I type the full word c*unt it comes up like this ****.