OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NFL season & predictions thread:

[S2M]

What exactly is Pouncey's injury? And to all you suckholes who rode Cutlers ass, where is the hate for Pouncey?

I told you fuckers, Dan, Rhiannon and whomever else, that you were dead wrong about Cutler. He tried to go, and couldn't. I also told you shitnuts that a sprained/torn MCL is impossible to play with. So you better be all over Pouncey too, because I don't think his injury is the MCL, he better play. Take a needle and a handful of pills and get your fat ass out there. Being in Dallas, the warm weather will also be a big help versus that ice shit you have in Pittsburgh.

Pouncey has a broken bone in his left ankle ON TOP of the already HIGH ankle sprain. Dude couldn't even put his foot on the ground without it wanting to snap. Those high ankle sprains ALONE take about 2 months to recover from and when it comes to joints on the foot, there goes all of your stature to even stand. Cutler went back into the fucking game, was doing jumping jacks on the sidelines and riding the bike with ease. Two totally different ligaments when talking about being able to stand and put pressure.

And Brady played with a stress fracture in his foot, and THREE broken ribs. and?

[StevePerryHair]

Amazing how a steel cheese grater could spark things up again!

[S2M]

Amazing how a steel cheese grater could spark things up again!

How's Crosby and Malkin doing in that AS game, meanie?

[YoungJRNY]

Pouncey's out....expect 2 fumbles on the Legursky-Ass-grabber exchange....

Pouncy out is going to be huge.

Legursky is MORE than capable to get it done. Losing Pouncey was huge, he's an all-pro but this Steelers offensive line has been on its 6th and 7th rotation since week 2 of the regular season! Legurksy has gotten time at center, as well as any other position on the offensive line. I have no worries whatsoever about Legurksy. Dude's a house and other than the mis-handled snap on the goaline, which I thought was Bens fault because he wanted to sneak it too early, he paved the way and threw the Jets vaunted D-line around and paved way for Mendenhall's outburst.

As for the game, I expect the Pack to get some monumental yardage, but I don't think they can put it in the endzone more than twice. I think being one dimensional will catch up to them and that makes way for the Steelers defense to unleash on Rodgers, who could fold under major pressure. The Steelers on the other hand have a much better balanced attack and has some fierce speed on the outsides. Steelers feed on one-dimensional teams. I like the score right now at 28-17 Pittsburgh.

NO way does Pittsburgh put up 28 points, not against a very good defense. If anything, Pittsburgh's defense better put up 7 or so...because their offense is anemic. As for the Steelers defense being unleashed, sure, I agree, but I see GB running a lot of misdirection, ie reverses, counters and the like, to offset to overpursuit.

Trav, I KNOW how excited you are, but you need to join us in a little something called "reality."

Dude, I KNOW you don't want to hear this but your absolute HATE and loathe on the Steelers allows you to not see the big picture and just blabble on how bad the Steelers are. In one sentence you say the Steelers can't put up 28 points because their facing a "good defense" but you completley fail to realize that the Steelers put up 31 points on BALTIMORE'S defense, one of the best in the league and then completley had their way with the Jets defense, more importantly the battle in the trenches and that "terrible" offensive line threw the vaunted Jets d-line, a Rex Ryan defense mind you, all over the field. I know you want to see NOTHING else but to see the Steelers lose, hell, show me one post to where you've said anything good about Pittsburgh leading up to any game they've ever played, but the "reality" is, is that you need to join the rest of the world and realize the Pittsburgh Steelers are in the Super Bowl for a reason, and SOMETHING tells me it's not because they "suck."

As far as running reverse's and what not, the Steelers are known to run some WR bubble screens, reverse's and other small percentile plays to break up the flow of the game. Unfortunate, those plays don't always work and can only be called in a perfect situation. Green Bay and Pittsburgh both have the tools to win the game, but Green Bay being one-dimensional and being that the Steelers model off of GB's defense, a defense they are SO use to playing time and time again, I can see Pitt putting up points for sure.

[StevePerryHair]

Amazing how a steel cheese grater could spark things up again!

How's Crosby and Malkin doing in that AS game, meanie?

:P Crosby is allowed to do light warm ups just this week finally! He was really hurt!!

[YoungJRNY]

That "anemic" Steelers offense still managed to rise up after being DEAD LAST in the first 4 games without Roethlisberger in the lineup.

Here is Green Bay's offense led by the ever-so UNSTOPABBLE Aaron Rodgers compared to an "anemic" Steelers offense, who didn't have their QB the first full month of the season.

Offensive Rank:

Green Bay Packers 9th
Pittsburgh Steelers 14th

Total Points:

Green Bay Packers 388
Pittsburgh Steelers 375


Yards per game:

Green Bay Packers 358.1
Pittsburgh Steelers 345.3

Yards per play:

Green Bay Packers 5.7
Pittsburgh Steelers 5.6

This unstoppable force of a Green Bay's offense that everyone is making them out to be certainly can be stopped and basically put up the same numbers as Pittsburgh's, but is as one dimensional as it comes. Pittsburgh got a solid running game and some speed on the outside, let alone a T.E threat. Pittsburgh deserves more credit in who they on offense. They got major weapons.

[S2M]

Travis, your stats don't tell the entire story. That's why I loathe stats as defense in debates.

What if a gave you this line for a team/QB?

QB - 9 for 14, 156 yrds, 1 TD

Team - 189 yds offense

Would you think the team won? Probably not. But the team caused 3 TOs, and was consistently given GREAT field position and didn't HAVE to drive long distances. and the Defense could have scored a TD, or two. And for a great defensive team - there could have been 3 or 4 of those type games - and that afeects season averages. So I wouldn't put too much stock in those numbers...savvy?

[YoungJRNY]

Travis, your stats don't tell the entire story. That's why I loathe stats as defense in debates.

What if a gave you this line for a team/QB?

QB - 9 for 14, 156 yrds, 1 TD

Team - 189 yds offense

Would you think the team won? Probably not. But the team caused 3 TOs, and was consistently given GREAT field position and didn't HAVE to drive long distances. and the Defense could have scored a TD, or two. And for a great defensive team - there could have been 3 or 4 of those type games - and that afeects season averages. So I wouldn't put too much stock in those numbers...savvy?

Not my stats, league stats givin how the offense produced in certain situations and overall production. Football is football, there is WAY too many intangibles to break down team by team, by team, by team and relate it to the same stat, I get that and argued with John over the years that stats NEVER tell the entire story when breaking down an individual game and what they do on the field to help teams win (The Oakland Raiders beat Pittsburgh in 2006 with like, 50 yards of offense!) but these stats still could be used to show the simple fact that the Steelers/Packers are in the Super Bowl for a reason and react very similar in what they do as football teams. When someone says something absurd like "come back down to reality" talking the capability of a SUPER BOWL team, then that's just being ignorant.

[Saint John]

This is why Belichick is head and shoulders above any other coach in the league. Balty should let Pitt score to save time. Then try and score the tying TD.

This post is fucking hilarious. Brady and Belichick displayed the worst clock management skills in the history of the NFL only hours after you posted this.

[YoungJRNY]

This is why Belichick is head and shoulders above any other coach in the league. Balty should let Pitt score to save time. Then try and score the tying TD.

This post is fucking hilarious. Brady and Belichick displayed the worst clock management skills in the history of the NFL only hours after you posted this.

Just like my sig, he informed us wrongly!

[Rockindeano]

Trav, you're right, I absolutely loathe the Pittsburgh Stealers. I fucking hate them, all of them. That said, you spin like a top and talk to me like I am women's college volleyball beat writer. Just because NFL.com is not my home page, and the fact that I love college football a helluva lot more than the NFL, does not make me stupid. I am stupid enough and don't need to be piled on to prove that point.

You are going to tell me that PGH beat up on a "good" Ravens defense? I got news for you, Baltimore's defense is a shell of it's former self. Green bay's defense is a helluva lot younger and faster than Baltimore and the game will be played on the rug this weekend too, which can only help Green Bay. (Interesting point about the surface- Dallas purchased three different types..one for NFL, NCAA and a blank one for soccer).

Anyway, I haven't glanced at NFL.com for stats of BAL or GBY defenses but I am here to tell you Thor and Hawk are every bit if not more effective than that murdering rapper Ray Lewis.

Let's make a side bet T. If PGH scores 28 points, I will eat my own jizz for lunch....and I mean "score" as in offensive points, not palamolu returns or any of that shit. If Green Bay puts up 28 on your vaunted defense, then you eat your own jizz. deal?

[YoungJRNY]

Trav, you're right, I absolutely loathe the Pittsburgh Stealers. I fucking hate them, all of them. That said, you spin like a top and talk to me like I am women's college volleyball beat writer. Just because NFL.com is not my home page, and the fact that I love college football a helluva lot more than the NFL, does not make me stupid. I am stupid enough and don't need to be piled on to prove that point.

You are going to tell me that PGH beat up on a "good" Ravens defense? I got news for you, Baltimore's defense is a shell of it's former self. Green bay's defense is a helluva lot younger and faster than Baltimore and the game will be played on the rug this weekend too, which can only help Green Bay. (Interesting point about the surface- Dallas purchased three different types..one for NFL, NCAA and a blank one for soccer).

Anyway, I haven't glanced at NFL.com for stats of BAL or GBY defenses but I am here to tell you Thor and Hawk are every bit if not more effective than that murdering rapper Ray Lewis.

Let's make a side bet T. If PGH scores 28 points, I will eat my own jizz for lunch....and I mean "score" as in offensive points, not palamolu returns or any of that shit. If Green Bay puts up 28 on your vaunted defense, then you eat your own jizz. deal?

Ben Roethlisberger threw for over 500 yards on that SAME Packers-led defense just a year ago and mind you, the Packers were equipped in that shootout with their starting half back, Ryan Grant, a Tight End that was a major go -to guy and had the tools to be the difference in the game, now on IR. The Steelers were without Troy, were in the midst of a defensive line crisis, had a 1st year starter at corner in William Gay who had a very bad year and an even WORSE off offensive line. Score was 37-36. It can be done.

[Rockindeano]

Trav, you're right, I absolutely loathe the Pittsburgh Stealers. I fucking hate them, all of them. That said, you spin like a top and talk to me like I am women's college volleyball beat writer. Just because NFL.com is not my home page, and the fact that I love college football a helluva lot more than the NFL, does not make me stupid. I am stupid enough and don't need to be piled on to prove that point.

You are going to tell me that PGH beat up on a "good" Ravens defense? I got news for you, Baltimore's defense is a shell of it's former self. Green bay's defense is a helluva lot younger and faster than Baltimore and the game will be played on the rug this weekend too, which can only help Green Bay. (Interesting point about the surface- Dallas purchased three different types..one for NFL, NCAA and a blank one for soccer).

Anyway, I haven't glanced at NFL.com for stats of BAL or GBY defenses but I am here to tell you Thor and Hawk are every bit if not more effective than that murdering rapper Ray Lewis.

Let's make a side bet T. If PGH scores 28 points, I will eat my own jizz for lunch....and I mean "score" as in offensive points, not palamolu returns or any of that shit. If Green Bay puts up 28 on your vaunted defense, then you eat your own jizz. deal?

Ben Roethlisberger threw for over 500 yards on that SAME Packers-led defense just a year ago and mind you, the Packers were equipped in that shootout with their starting half back, Ryan Grant, a Tight End that was a major go -to guy and had the tools to be the difference in the game, now on IR. The Steelers were without Troy, were in the midst of a defensive line crisis, had a 1st year starter at corner in William Gay who had a very bad year and an even WORSE off offensive line. Score was 37-36. It can be done.

Now I know you are drinking. You are throwing year old scores at me for your argument, Counselor. That doesn't work. Look at NE smacking the shit out of the Jets 45-3 on MNF 2 months ago. What happened two weeks ago to those two excat clubs? Come on man, you're better than that.

Post your digits on here. I NEED to pic text you some stuff as well as be all in your grill come next Sunday. LOL, notice how black folks always say that? "What's going on up in this motherfucker?" Everything is always "up in this motherfucker?"

T-Rav, my number 805-504-6708.

[S2M]

I don't know who is a bigger ballwasher. Dean/O.G.? or Trav/Felon?

[YoungJRNY]

I don't know who is a bigger ballwasher. Dean/O.G.? or Trav/Felon?

The answer is S2M and the referees...........everytime.

[S2M]

I don't know who is a bigger ballwasher. Dean/O.G.? or Trav/Felon?

The answer is S2M and the referees...........everytime.

Ok...I think you have the concept confused, Trav....when you ballwash...you praise the person/team...etc. I don't praise refs.

[YoungJRNY]

Trav, you're right, I absolutely loathe the Pittsburgh Stealers. I fucking hate them, all of them. That said, you spin like a top and talk to me like I am women's college volleyball beat writer. Just because NFL.com is not my home page, and the fact that I love college football a helluva lot more than the NFL, does not make me stupid. I am stupid enough and don't need to be piled on to prove that point.

You are going to tell me that PGH beat up on a "good" Ravens defense? I got news for you, Baltimore's defense is a shell of it's former self. Green bay's defense is a helluva lot younger and faster than Baltimore and the game will be played on the rug this weekend too, which can only help Green Bay. (Interesting point about the surface- Dallas purchased three different types..one for NFL, NCAA and a blank one for soccer).

Anyway, I haven't glanced at NFL.com for stats of BAL or GBY defenses but I am here to tell you Thor and Hawk are every bit if not more effective than that murdering rapper Ray Lewis.

Let's make a side bet T. If PGH scores 28 points, I will eat my own jizz for lunch....and I mean "score" as in offensive points, not palamolu returns or any of that shit. If Green Bay puts up 28 on your vaunted defense, then you eat your own jizz. deal?

Ben Roethlisberger threw for over 500 yards on that SAME Packers-led defense just a year ago and mind you, the Packers were equipped in that shootout with their starting half back, Ryan Grant, a Tight End that was a major go -to guy and had the tools to be the difference in the game, now on IR. The Steelers were without Troy, were in the midst of a defensive line crisis, had a 1st year starter at corner in William Gay who had a very bad year and an even WORSE off offensive line. Score was 37-36. It can be done.

Now I know you are drinking. You are throwing year old scores at me for your argument, Counselor. That doesn't work. Look at NE smacking the shit out of the Jets 45-3 on MNF 2 months ago. What happened two weeks ago to those two excat clubs? Come on man, you're better than that.

Post your digits on here. I NEED to pic text you some stuff as well as be all in your grill come next Sunday. LOL, notice how black folks always say that? "What's going on up in this motherfucker?" Everything is always "up in this motherfucker?"

T-Rav, my number 805-504-6708.

Considering both teams have pretty much the same personal and attacking schemes, sometimes the ONLY thing you have is the last meeting between the two, especially ones of different conference's who DON'T play each other twice/three times a year. The game will be a completley different beast and I really don't think it'll be a shootout. I do think it will be VERY competitive before a team breaks away with breathing room in the second half. I'll PM you my number because I will expect the un-expected, but it DOES work both ways,big man lmao. In all serious-ness, there couldn't be a better matchup for a Super Bowl. I think most NFL fans will be in for a treat.

[YoungJRNY]

I don't know who is a bigger ballwasher. Dean/O.G.? or Trav/Felon?

The answer is S2M and the referees...........everytime.

Ok...I think you have the concept confused, Trav....when you ballwash...you praise the person/team...etc. I don't praise refs.

Doesn't matter.

[Everett]

no one cares about the pro bowl eh?

[conversationpc]

no one cares about the pro bowl eh?

Nope...The biggest waste of time of all the pro sports all star games.

[Enigma869]

I think being one dimensional will catch up to them and that makes way for the Steelers defense to unleash on Rodgers, who could fold under major pressure.

A couple of points from someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight. First and foremost, Green Bay being one-dimensional, as you put it, plays heavily in their favor. Why on earth would the Packers want to even attempt to run against a team that can't be run upon? Every team who plays the Steelers is one-dimensional, because their rush defense forces that. If you seriously believe Rodgers can't put more than two TD's on the board against a very below average secondary, you're not paying attention! Also, in the playoffs this season, the Packers are averaging only a half yard less rushing per game than the Steelers are averaging. The huge difference is the Steelers are ranked 10th out of the 12 teams who made the playoffs this season in throwing the ball down the field while the Packers have shown to be a bit better at stretching the field. I think Pittsburgh makes this a tough game, because they almost always do, but if Steeler fans are walking into this game like it's a slam dunk, I suspect they may be in for a huge letdown!

[Enigma869]

What exactly is Pouncey's injury? And to all you suckholes who rode Cutlers ass, where is the hate for Pouncey?

Pretty easy explanation. Pouncey was on crutches immediately, on the sidelines, during the game, for the whole world to see. Cutler sat there looking VERY disinterested, and the guy is a total douche and always has been. I think beating the guy up over how injured he is or isn't is fucking ABSURD. The jackasses on this board are every bit as bad as Maurice Jones-Drew. I talked to my father-in-law, who is an actual surgeon (as opposed to the geniuses on this board assessing MRI results) and he made it very clear that there simply aren't two injuries that are ever the same. There are different degrees of an injury and obviously the tolerance (which is the criticism of Cutler) is very different as well. I will say that the one thing that made Cutler look really bad is walking around with zero limp after the game. If the dude had half a fucking brain, he would have had someone push him out of that locker room in a fucking wheelchair!

[YoungJRNY]

I think being one dimensional will catch up to them and that makes way for the Steelers defense to unleash on Rodgers, who could fold under major pressure.

A couple of points from someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight. First and foremost, Green Bay being one-dimensional, as you put it, plays heavily in their favor. Why on earth would the Packers want to even attempt to run against a team that can't be run upon? Every team who plays the Steelers is one-dimensional, because their rush defense forces that. If you seriously believe Rodgers can't put more than two TD's on the board against a very below average secondary, you're not paying attention! Also, in the playoffs this season, the Packers are averaging only a half yard less rushing per game than the Steelers are averaging. The huge difference is the Steelers are ranked 10th out of the 12 teams who made the playoffs this season in throwing the ball down the field while the Packers have shown to be a bit better at stretching the field. I think Pittsburgh makes this a tough game, because they almost always do, but if Steeler fans are walking into this game like it's a slam dunk, I suspect they may be in for a huge letdown!

Of course Pittsburgh takes that running option away from the other team, but that's the main difference. The Steelers, when they go up against a hard nosed or versatile runner, go into the game to take out a VIABLE running threat and force the team out of their game plan. Here, Green Bay doesn't even have one slither of a threat so this means the Steelers will pin their ears and let loose rather than play run support. Noone here is overlooking Green Bay. To my understanding, it's the other way around. People want to talk about how explosive Aaron Rodgers is and how he's going to be Super Bowl MVP and how good their offense is to stop. I've been saying it all week. The matchup will be how Green Bay's oline handles the pass rush. If they can't, then I can't see Green Bay scoring more than 14-17 points. If they protect Rodgers and let them pick them apart, then I can see atleast 24 being put up. Noone here in Pittsburgh is overlooking Green Bay, just thinking the Steelers have a better balanced attack which could be the difference maker.

[Enigma869]

Noone here is overlooking Green Bay. To my understanding, it's the other way around.

You're not listening to the same pundits I'm listening to. Nobody is going to overlook either one of these teams. I suspect that when all of the so-called "experts" weigh in with their picks on this game, half will pick Green Bay to win and the other half will pick Pittsburgh to win. I think Green Bay has a better team but I think because of Pittsburgh's track record in the big game, they should be favored (slightly) to win this game, and I'm still not picking them.

[Enigma869]

By the way Travis, to prove my point, I have that douche Tom Jackson on in the background on ESPN, and he said that the only way that Green Bay "has any shot" in this game is if Rodgers plays "lights out". In my opinion, that really underestimates Green Bay's very good defense. Both of these QB's played AWFUL in their last game and their teams were still good enough to win.

[YoungJRNY]

By the way Travis, to prove my point, I have that douche Tom Jackson on in the background on ESPN, and he said that the only way that Green Bay "has any shot" in this game is if Rodgers plays "lights out". In my opinion, that really underestimates Green Bay's very good defense. Both of these QB's played AWFUL in their last game and their teams were still good enough to win.

Looking at both teams and having watched what both do in their strength's, I said earlier that I think Green Bay's success lays in the hands of how Rodgers performs. If he goes out there and gets harassed, then I don't see him climbing the mountain to get it done against a relentless pass rush that can derail him. It could easily be said the other way around though, he could sit back there and see what he wants and deliver with pin point accuracy. Depends which teams show up in both Pittsburgh and Green Bay, I just think the Steelers have won FAR MORE consistently in how they do things than what Green Bay has shown all year.

Green Bay's defense will come after Ben, but the Steelers have made a living by going up against defense's that bring the blitz and the pressure against them. Green Bay has ran the defense only two years of what the Steelers have been playing since the early 90's. I think the Steelers are more equipped to break things down and slow Green Bay's attack off a bit versus Green Bay slowing Pittsburgh's defense down in what they may see. 25 Steelers have been in the Super Bowl before, 16 of them going for 3 rings. Green Bay has only 2 players with that experience. We'll see, but it's going to be a great game regardless.

[S2M]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm already tired of the SB coverage on ESPN, and ESPN First Take. Two weeks is just overkill. Honestly, the SB is going to anti-climactic. I'm burnt out.

[Enigma869]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm already tired of the SB coverage on ESPN, and ESPN First Take. Two weeks is just overkill. Honestly, the SB is going to anti-climactic. I'm burnt out.

I've always hated the two weeks, regardless of who is playing. That said, this still has the potential to be a great, great game. I would be stunned if it didn't come down to the final possession.

[S2M]

And I just gotta say that Jay Crawford is just god fucking awful....Skip Bayless I can stomach. Crawford is a hack.

[YoungJRNY]

I haven't watched ESPN for some time now, esp since the NFL playoffs started. I get so irritated and fired up that I can't even read anymore articles. Halfway through an article I may lay my eyes on, I click out mid-read. The wait is just brutal and I'm sick of the talking heads beating the same dead hoarse. I watched highlights after the game since I went to both playoff games but other than that, I get too giddy and anxious to watch any of it anymore.